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FadeToBlackFadeToBlack Posts: 7,847 ✭✭✭✭✭
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I was recently approached and offered a selection of coins as part of an inheritance. I made an offer based upon the images in the linked album, which was accepted. I'm wondering what you guys would have offered. Yes, these are the original images, I know they're low res.

https://imgur.com/a/dNNLw

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  • 1630Boston1630Boston Posts: 14,111 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'm having trouble with the way the coins are arranged in the photos. I would like to see the coins in hand to determine an offer equitable to each party.
    JMO :smile:

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    Bad transactions with : nobody to date

  • jdimmickjdimmick Posts: 9,772 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks like there might be a few cherries in that group

  • BryceMBryceM Posts: 11,851 ✭✭✭✭✭

    There's no way I'd make an offer based on photos. As was already said, there's no way it could be fair to both parties. You can't even tell if they're genuine. For some of those coins the swing in value between counterfeit and the real deal would be enormous.

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  • SurfinxHISurfinxHI Posts: 2,575 ✭✭✭✭✭

    If real, like I think they are, there are some whoppers in there. But if cleaned, not as much. Rough. Need to see those in hand, can't even make out the dates.

    Dead people tell interesting tales.
  • gtstanggtstang Posts: 1,778 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'd be nervous they were cleaning them. Looks like the pics were taken in the bathroom. What's up with that?

  • TPRCTPRC Posts: 3,814 ✭✭✭✭✭

    4500

    Tom

  • coindeucecoindeuce Posts: 13,496 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 20, 2016 12:24PM

    Obviously some pieces have environmental damage or post mint damage, but between the key date Peace dollars, the Bust dollar, the Seated dollars and the Trade dollars, the seller should have a modest new car down payment in hand.

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  • GRANDAMGRANDAM Posts: 8,743 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Impossible to say,,,, I can't even make out the dates on most of them :o

    GrandAm :)
  • mkman123mkman123 Posts: 6,849 ✭✭✭✭

    I'd be afraid of any fakes in the lot

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  • davewesendavewesen Posts: 6,641 ✭✭✭✭✭

    There are some coins I would not place a bid on or very lowball unless seen in hand - an example is the 1859-O seated dollar, what are those black spot? toning, pitting, environmental damage?

    Also there is a question in my mind of authenticity of all coins.

    If you bid and got the coins, please update us.

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  • 1630Boston1630Boston Posts: 14,111 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I look forward to the unboxing. :smile:

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    Bad transactions with : nobody to date

  • 1630Boston1630Boston Posts: 14,111 ✭✭✭✭✭

    PS Didn't notice the big toe in several pics until I went through them again, still no offer yet.

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    Bad transactions with : nobody to date

  • logger7logger7 Posts: 8,993 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 20, 2016 2:10PM

    I would probably recommend at least what Mr. Nachbar advertises in his ad; a safe offer for both parties initially then a dividend when the coins are all sold. I have no idea why collectors who originally owned them left no clarity in terms of value and perhaps did not help their kids be properly educated in horse sense. I have seen that more often than not, kids who inherit leave a windfall to the savvy dealers leaving the heirs with less.

  • 10000lakes10000lakes Posts: 811 ✭✭✭✭

    The last four pics look to be a roll of 1887 and 1878-s Morgans.
    Depending on if you knew the person or not, or had any recourse, it would make a difference on what I would offer.

    Obviously, they are not coin collectors, with laying them out on a rubber bath mat to take the photos.
    You might have to disinfect them first :)

  • gripgrip Posts: 9,962 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Rubber mat in the bathroom.Lol

  • 1630Boston1630Boston Posts: 14,111 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Bandage on the floor also ??

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    Bad transactions with : nobody to date

  • logger7logger7 Posts: 8,993 ✭✭✭✭✭

    How did they find you?

  • 1630Boston1630Boston Posts: 14,111 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Good question @logger7

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  • KyleKyle Posts: 1,822 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I know the price paid, but there is some huge potential in this lot.

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  • TomBTomB Posts: 22,055 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks like it might be loaded with counterfeits.

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  • woogloutwooglout Posts: 200 ✭✭✭

    I would be somewhat worried about the uniform whiteness of some of them. Some look recently cleaned, but I don't claim to have the best eyes. I would ask if s/he cleaned them at all. Even then I might not believe them based on the photos. Looking at the "PL potential" Morgans, the fields look cloudy/hazy similar to a dipped coin that was improperly rinsed. That is the cynic in me thinking and being risk-averse. However, if I got all of the Morgans for cleaned/detail prices plus the rarer pieces at more than a little back of bid, I wouldn't be worried. That is if they're real, which I think they are. Good luck!

    PS - was this from Reddit by chance?

  • jonrunsjonruns Posts: 1,197 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Those bath mats scare me

  • BochimanBochiman Posts: 25,556 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @TomB said:
    Looks like it might be loaded with counterfeits.

    At first glance, that was my thinking as well.
    Hope not, but from the pics, and not seeing inhand, I would be suspect of more than a coin or two.

    I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment

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  • PTVETTERPTVETTER Posts: 6,015 ✭✭✭✭✭

    something smells fishy
    just a feelings,

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  • bolivarshagnastybolivarshagnasty Posts: 7,352 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'll bid $10 on the monkey pajamas. Pass on the coins.

  • CascadeChrisCascadeChris Posts: 2,528 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Some of those Morgans look killer but the wide multi shots can be hiding their true nature. This is a scratcher lot. Get your coin ready to scratch off that scratcher and hope for 3 "win all prizes" :smile:

    The more you VAM..
  • 3keepSECRETif2rDEAD3keepSECRETif2rDEAD Posts: 4,285 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks fun and can't wait to watch the video buddy! I know how Luck treats FTB so I say that in the end...you are coming out on Top...hopefully higher than Cheech and Chong in 1979 ;)

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  • crazyhounddogcrazyhounddog Posts: 14,055 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I wish I could judge them but I'm afraid with those images I'll have to pass. I do, however, wish you all the best and it's everything your hoping for. :)

    The bitterness of "Poor Quality" is remembered long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten.
  • TopographicOceansTopographicOceans Posts: 6,535 ✭✭✭✭

    2.5 x melt

  • yosclimberyosclimber Posts: 5,027 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 21, 2016 4:06AM

    $3300 would have been my offer (purely hypothetical). Interesting exercise, as I don't know much about dollars.
    Buying from photos is not much different from what we do when buying on ebay, except I wonder how you trust these folks to deliver after you pay.

    My retail wild guesses:
    $1500 for the 1802; it has smooth fields which suggest VF35 details cleaned (assuming genuine - I'm glad it's easy for you to attribute; if I had to make a real offer I would spend time attributing it myself)
    $1600 = $400 each for 4 seated dollars
    $150 trade dollar
    $3000 = $30 each for 91 Morgans and 9 Peace dollars (I can't read many dates, except for apparently several 1921 Peace)
    $450 Lafayette
    $30 walker and standing (looks high grade but likely cleaned)
    $6730 total retail guess

    Much upside potential, but much risk regarding cleaned coins, so they could do better if it was not on a photo basis.
    I look forward to seeing your "unboxing" video.

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Interesting opportunity.... however, I would not even make an offer without the coins in hand. I suspect cleaning, damage, counterfeits.... and likely some good coins as well. Without direct examination, no offer. Will be very interesting to see what you find. Cheers, RickO

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  • TreashuntTreashunt Posts: 6,747 ✭✭✭✭✭

    interesting thread

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  • 1Mike11Mike1 Posts: 4,427 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Rachel can show you how to get the rust off those coins. :D

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  • ElcontadorElcontador Posts: 7,679 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I never buy anything without either seeing it myself or having someone I trust, who knows more than I do, look at it in hand. Also, it's much easier to buy a coin than to sell it.

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  • CascadeChrisCascadeChris Posts: 2,528 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Elcontador said:
    I never buy anything without either seeing it myself or having someone I trust, who knows more than I do, look at it in hand. Also, it's much easier to buy a coin than to sell it.

    Not much of a gambler huh. Risk is fun :smile:

    The more you VAM..
  • logger7logger7 Posts: 8,993 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Wasn't it Dale Williams who advertised "we fly to buy"? Over a certain number that becomes imperative either one party or the other could get taken to the cleaners.

  • gripgrip Posts: 9,962 ✭✭✭✭✭

    What's the update on the treasure hunt?

  • VanHalenVanHalen Posts: 4,330 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @FadeToBlack said:
    I'd call this a rousing success. Camera stopped recoding in the middle of the unboxing but I resumed it at a later point. Will post tonight at some point.

    Sounds like a home run?

  • woogloutwooglout Posts: 200 ✭✭✭

    I'm sure FtB is looking at Express level pricing ATM. Congrats on the rousing success. It was either going to be a slam dunk or a complete FAIL from my point of view. Or maybe I'm just projecting what happens with my reaches.

  • BochimanBochiman Posts: 25,556 ✭✭✭✭✭

    ?

    I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment

  • BustHalfBrianBustHalfBrian Posts: 4,191 ✭✭✭✭

    How's that unboxing video coming along?

    Lurking and learning since 2010. Full-time professional numismatist based in SoCal.
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  • BochimanBochiman Posts: 25,556 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Condolences

    I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment

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