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GazesGazes Posts: 2,315 ✭✭✭✭✭
If a high grade coin (66 or 67) has a die crack----would this stop you from purchasing if the grade was technically correct? My question assumes the date is not so rare that the coin with the die crack would be the buyers only opportunity for the date.

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    gripgrip Posts: 9,962 ✭✭✭✭✭

    No. Like you said if its not a rare coin.

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    BillJonesBillJones Posts: 33,486 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Die breaks only bother me if the coin loses a lot of detail as a result of them. If the design elements are weak on a high grade coin, l'll pass.

    Retired dealer and avid collector of U.S. type coins, 19th century presidential campaign medalets and selected medals. In recent years I have been working on a set of British coins - at least one coin from each king or queen who issued pieces that are collectible. I am also collecting at least one coin for each Roman emperor from Julius Caesar to ... ?
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    roadrunnerroadrunner Posts: 28,303 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Absolutely zero negative impact no matter what the coin is. On many coins like Vams and Overtons, die cracks are sometimes a huge plus.

    Today is October 22nd. I would have thought it was April 1st.

    Barbarous Relic No More, LSCC -GoldSeek--shadow stats--SafeHaven--321gold
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    ZoinsZoins Posts: 33,912 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It depends on the die crack. I agree with the roadrunner here:

    @roadrunner said:
    die cracks are sometimes a huge plus.

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    JRoccoJRocco Posts: 14,277 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Did someone say die crack ?


    Some coins are just plain "Interesting"
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    lkeigwinlkeigwin Posts: 16,887 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nice one, JRocco!

    I agree with roadrunner. Die cracks on bust halves add character.
    Lance.

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    TommyTypeTommyType Posts: 4,586 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Guess it kind of depends what the coin is for?

    • If you are looking for that one perfect example for type, it might turn you off.
    • If you are a specialist in that coin type, and already have a slew of examples, maybe the die crack will actually enhance it's desirability.

    For me, die cracks add character in general.....No turn off.

    Easily distracted Type Collector
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    crazyhounddogcrazyhounddog Posts: 13,821 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Die cracks give coins more personality not so often seen in today's minting process. They don't bother me what so ever and they do not effect the grade.

    The bitterness of "Poor Quality" is remembered long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten.
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    BustDMsBustDMs Posts: 1,574 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Die cracks? The more and the nastier the better!

    Q: When does a collector become a numismatist?



    A: The year they spend more on their library than their coin collection.



    A numismatist is judged more on the content of their library than the content of their cabinet.
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    CascadeChrisCascadeChris Posts: 2,519 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Not at all. Actually, depending on placement and severity it may make me want it more
    The more you VAM..
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    AUandAGAUandAG Posts: 24,544 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I like crack.

    bob:)

    'er cracks.

    Registry: CC lowballs (boblindstrom), bobinvegas1989@yahoo.com
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    messydeskmessydesk Posts: 19,705 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It depends. Usually, a die crack is no big deal, and sometimes it's a bonus if well placed and dramatic enough. If I were looking for an MS66-67 for a type set, however, I would want the highest quality example of the type (hence the grade), most likely made with fresh dies that aren't worn or damaged. A die crack, while cool in other contexts, could be a negative here.

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    BryceMBryceM Posts: 11,737 ✭✭✭✭✭
    If it's supposed to be there (early US type or a 23-D Peace dollar), I say the more the merrier. It adds character. I'd be less forgiving of a crack across the portrait of a 2016 Proof gold buffalo.
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    BaleyBaley Posts: 22,658 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 23, 2016 3:51PM

    @Gazes said:
    If a high grade coin (66 or 67) has a die crack----would this stop you from purchasing if the grade was technically correct? My question assumes the date is not so rare that the coin with the die crack would be the buyers only opportunity for the date.

    To the OP, it all depends on how the subject coin fits into the overall collection. Is it for Type, or for part of a series collection? Do the other coins in the set have "features" like cracks, over dates, overpunched letters, and other things like late die states, or, as others have said, is it a more modern common coin and the crack is a distraction?

    Anyway, here's my most recent purchase, already have this die variety but not this die state, bought specifically for the cracks.

    edit, oh, sorry, forgot the picture links are broken now.

    Liberty: Parent of Science & Industry

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    KccoinKccoin Posts: 1,086 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Die cracks have never stopped me from picking up a coin. As others have said, it often adds to the desire. Have a BU 55 P Roosevelt with full bands, (wider) die crack from 2 o'clock to a bit into his head. Cool for me anyway
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    PandavabPandavab Posts: 960 ✭✭✭

    I tend to view die cracks as a positive, not a negative. I can't think of any coin I've seen with die cracks that I thought were a detriment to the coin, but I won't say it isn't possible to happen.

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    roadrunnerroadrunner Posts: 28,303 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'm a fan of die cracks and die polish on many earlier US coins, especially gold coins. Those are just more features that a counterfeiter/forger will find difficult to copy.

    Barbarous Relic No More, LSCC -GoldSeek--shadow stats--SafeHaven--321gold
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    hchcoinhchcoin Posts: 4,825 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I love die cracks. Fingerprints, on the other hand, are a big turn off for me.

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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Die cracks are acceptable to me.... they add character. If it were a major crack across the central focus of a proof coin, it may deter me.... maybe not... All depends on the coin and how it looks. Cheers, RickO

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    PurfrockPurfrock Posts: 545 ✭✭✭

    I love die cracks! If the choice were between two similar coins, one with die cracks and one without, I'd definitely choose the coin with them.

    EAC, ANA Member
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    goldengolden Posts: 9,072 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @hchcoin said:
    I love die cracks. Fingerprints, on the other hand, are a big turn off for me.

    Yes.

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    GazesGazes Posts: 2,315 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Appreciate all the comments. Thank you

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    dbldie55dbldie55 Posts: 7,719 ✭✭✭✭✭

    some even get their own variety at PCGS. Take the "speared bison" 2005 nickel.

    Collector and Researcher of Liberty Head Nickels. ANA LM-6053

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