@1940coupe said:
cant wait to find a nice holder for my 1934 Gold Double Eagle when I get it
I will get mine slabbed by ICG.
Over ANACS? Curious as to why.
I am of the opinion that ICG or ANACS slabbing will hurt the value of these coins. Aside from the fact that NGC and PCGS are the only current acceptable grading standards [so what good is that 70 grade anyway] I want original DCarr holder and documentation with mine.
@1940coupe said:
cant wait to find a nice holder for my 1934 Gold Double Eagle when I get it
I will get mine slabbed by ICG.
Over ANACS? Curious as to why.
I am of the opinion that ICG or ANACS slabbing will hurt the value of these coins. Aside from the fact that NGC and PCGS are the only current acceptable grading standards [so what good is that 70 grade anyway] I want original DCarr holder and documentation with mine.
They will be fine in the non PVC holders until you remove them to play with them. When more Broken Sword Peace Dollars are minted I plan a custom made holder that displays probably 3 or 4 pieces flipped open but still in the original flips. I think they will tone nicely do you think
Mine came this morning. I'm having a bit of trouble with the color balance but it is a spectacular piece of art in gold.
Just beautiful. I'm very happy I ordered it and wish I would have gone for 2.
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@1940coupe said:
cant wait to find a nice holder for my 1934 Gold Double Eagle when I get it
I will get mine slabbed by ICG.
Over ANACS? Curious as to why.
I am of the opinion that ICG or ANACS slabbing will hurt the value of these coins. Aside from the fact that NGC and PCGS are the only current acceptable grading standards [so what good is that 70 grade anyway] I want original DCarr holder and documentation with mine.
Anacs sends the original flips back to you, so you still have them. Graded pieces regularly sell for more than raw ones.
I just received my Winged Liberty in silver. For a one-man operation (making, shipping, etc) delivery was fast and the piece is beautiful! A friend suggested I have it gold plated! That would be something Mr. Carr could offer but it might conflict with the actual coins struck in gold even though the fineness is on the edge.
@Insider2 said:
I just received my Winged Liberty in silver. For a one-man operation (making, shipping, etc) delivery was fast and the piece is beautiful! A friend suggested I have it gold plated! That would be something Mr. Carr could offer but it might conflict with the actual coins struck in gold even though the fineness is on the edge.
I just order the Brass ones and make believe it’s gold.
Mine came this morning. I'm having a bit of trouble with the color balance but it is a spectacular piece of art in gold.
Just beautiful. I'm very happy I ordered it and wish I would have gone for 2.
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You can have your cake and eat it to,,,,,,,,,
Some people mentioned that they won't slab their Dan Carr items because they want the original flip and COA with the coin.
Well, ICG will return the flip and COA,,,,,, just ask.
Then I put the COA in the flip and slip it into the self seal bag and seal it and they all stay together.
@jwitten said:
I do wish D.C. included a tracking number with email of shipment. I've been going to the post office each day hoping it would be here, lol.
@fiftysevener said:
They will be fine in the non PVC holders until you remove them to play with them. When more Broken Sword Peace Dollars are minted I plan a custom made holder that displays probably 3 or 4 pieces flipped open but still in the original flips. I think they will tone nicely do you think
Many of Dan's coins develop unsightly tarnish on the edge of the flip that's open. This is true for silver, brass and copper coins. Holdering them solves that problem (if you do so before they tarnish).
@fiftysevener said:
They will be fine in the non PVC holders until you remove them to play with them. When more Broken Sword Peace Dollars are minted I plan a custom made holder that displays probably 3 or 4 pieces flipped open but still in the original flips. I think they will tone nicely do you think
Many of Dan's coins develop unsightly tarnish on the edge of the flip that's open. This is true for silver, brass and copper coins. Holdering them solves that problem (if you do so before they tarnish).
Totally agree! I've collected hundreds starting from way back and they will turn if not properly sealed. I've sealed them in the flip and still had them turn, and I store them in the red safety box (or whatever its called) I wish ANACS would 70 the deserving. But I like the angled top so much I'm not switching.
@fiftysevener said:
They will be fine in the non PVC holders until you remove them to play with them. When more Broken Sword Peace Dollars are minted I plan a custom made holder that displays probably 3 or 4 pieces flipped open but still in the original flips. I think they will tone nicely do you think
Many of Dan's coins develop unsightly tarnish on the edge of the flip that's open. This is true for silver, brass and copper coins. Holdering them solves that problem (if you do so before they tarnish).
Totally agree! I've collected hundreds starting from way back and they will turn if not properly sealed. I've sealed them in the flip and still had them turn, and I store them in the red safety box (or whatever its called) I wish ANACS would 70 the deserving. But I like the angled top so much I'm not switching.
Yes I understand that they will tone as they are exposed to atmosphere but be aware that ANACS and ICG coins must be evaluated by hiding the grade on the holder if one is to consider a fair market value. So Mr. Carr would you consider slabbing equipment for your work ?
Yes I understand that they will tone as they are exposed to atmosphere but be aware that ANACS and ICG coins must be evaluated by hiding the grade on the holder if one is to consider a fair market value.
Some ICG coins may be accurately graded but have not been accepted as equal of NGC and PCGS standards. Having been stung on some ANACS coins I know why they trade for far less money most often. Also consider that CAC will not accept those coins for verification for a variety of reasons. Most likely reason is its a waist of time for them because few would ever sticker.
Some ICG coins may be accurately graded but have not been accepted as equal of NGC and PCGS standards. Having been stung on some ANACS coins I know why they trade for far less money most often. Also consider that CAC will not accept those coins for verification for a variety of reasons. Most likely reason is its a waist of time for them because few would ever sticker.
I never said ICG was equal to PCGS but since PCGS doesn't grade Dan Carr items I feel they are the best option,,,,,, I do not care for the yellow label slanted top ANACS holder but that is just my preference.
A MS70 coin is the easiest grade to evaluate. Very easy to tell if a MS70 or MS69 is accurately graded.
@1940coupe said:
Dan Carr has posted on here many times how to take care of the toning and has told me through email that it would not effect value if done right
I’ve had to dip about 45 coins including holograms. All came out great
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Walker Proof Digital Album Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
Mine came this morning. I'm having a bit of trouble with the color balance but it is a spectacular piece of art in gold.
Just beautiful. I'm very happy I ordered it and wish I would have gone for 2.
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Coinsarefun that looks like a small die crack by the eagles nose.
1040Coupe yes I got 5 but dont worry there are 195 still available!
Coinsarefun that looks like a small die crack by the eagles nose.
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No die crack. I saw that after I was finishing with the images. I took a look at the coin and there is nothing there so, it’s an artifact of imaging the coin.
I'm going to guess that you have been "around-the-block" for a few years from the "name" you have picked. I work for ICG at the moment and feel I should comment on your post.
You posted: "Some ICG coins may be accurately graded but have not been accepted as equal of NGC and PCGS standards."
That is unfortunate but you are exactly correct. There are marketing reasons for this so those who know how to grade can find many excellent bargains in ANACS and ICG slabs.
You also posted: "Also consider that CAC will not accept those coins [ANACS & ICG] for verification for a variety of reasons. Most likely reason is its a waist of time for them because few would ever sticker."
You are correct as far as a "variety of reasons;" however, your statement that it would be a waste of time because few would sticker is very regrettably a case of pure, uninformed NONSENSE." I cannot speak for ANACS but JA has his reasons for not stickering ICG coins. They run deep enough that the prospect of creating additional profits for CAC do not matter to him. JA has proven to be a very good buisnessman so I'm hoping over the long haul that the present situation will change.
PS I'll look forward to discussing your opinions in the future.
JA has indicated in the past that profits are not why he verifies coins. However it does make it easier for him to buy and sell sight unseen. If he doesn't charge for coins that don't sticker, he WOULD be wasting his time wouldn't he ?
Coinsarefun those are some great picture you took. I noticed on my last attempt to take pictures of the gold coins they all came out toooo bright. I had to cut out the lights. Almost a dark shade . Strange ! Any tips?
Hello Bull I like that combination. I got some to send in but not the DC Coins.
@Gluggo said:
Coinsarefun those are some great picture you took. I noticed on my last attempt to take pictures of the gold coins they all came out toooo bright. I had to cut out the lights. Almost a dark shade . Strange ! Any tips?
@Gluggo said:
Coinsarefun those are some great picture you took. I noticed on my last attempt to take pictures of the gold coins they all came out toooo bright. I had to cut out the lights. Almost a dark shade . Strange ! Any tips?
Yes, mine was coming out to bright as well. I tried two ways. Cut down on the lighting and keep the lighting but adjust the
light level on the remote camera software. The remote software came out much better.
@coinsarefun said:
Mine came this morning. I'm having a bit of trouble with the color balance but it is a spectacular piece of art in gold.
Just beautiful. I'm very happy I ordered it and wish I would have gone for 2.
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Man these are sweet coins. Most recent 'high grade' coins have incredible luster and bloom. I just love his work. And I'll wait for your imaging tutorial to follow. Nice work
@fiftysevener said:
They will be fine in the non PVC holders until you remove them to play with them. When more Broken Sword Peace Dollars are minted I plan a custom made holder that displays probably 3 or 4 pieces flipped open but still in the original flips. I think they will tone nicely do you think
Many of Dan's coins develop unsightly tarnish on the edge of the flip that's open. This is true for silver, brass and copper coins. Holdering them solves that problem (if you do so before they tarnish).
Totally agree! I've collected hundreds starting from way back and they will turn if not properly sealed. I've sealed them in the flip and still had them turn, and I store them in the red safety box (or whatever its called) I wish ANACS would 70 the deserving. But I like the angled top so much I'm not switching.
Yes I understand that they will tone as they are exposed to atmosphere but be aware that ANACS and ICG coins must be evaluated by hiding the grade on the holder if one is to consider a fair market value. So Mr. Carr would you consider slabbing equipment for your work ?
ANACS and ICG may be worth less than ngc and pcgs graded coins, but you can throw this out the window with Carr coins. They are the only ones to grade them, so they bring more than raw.
@Gluggo said:
Coinsarefun those are some great picture you took. I noticed on my last attempt to take pictures of the gold coins they all came out toooo bright. I had to cut out the lights. Almost a dark shade . Strange ! Any tips?
Gluggo, try PhotoScape.
I forgot I have photoscape. I use it when I want to take the photo and crop it perfectly round. I will try that next time to adjust the brightness. Thank you
@fiftysevener said:
Some ICG coins may be accurately graded but have not been accepted as equal of NGC and PCGS standards. Having been stung on some ANACS coins I know why they trade for far less money most often. Also consider that CAC will not accept those coins for verification for a variety of reasons. Most likely reason is its a waist of time for them because few would ever sticker.
You're comparing apples and oranges, and seem to arguing for the sake of arguing. The discussion of ANACS/ICG vs. PCGS/NGC + CAC for US mint coins has 0% relevance to the discussion of ANACS/ICG for Daniel Carr.
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Life experiences are the only time you can count on something is when you have it in your hand anything can happen !
I am of the opinion that ICG or ANACS slabbing will hurt the value of these coins. Aside from the fact that NGC and PCGS are the only current acceptable grading standards [so what good is that 70 grade anyway] I want original DCarr holder and documentation with mine.
my theory is if pcgs slabs them then I will send them other wise I will keep them in the raw !
You are wrong,,,,,,,,,
I would rather have my D. Carr pieces in ANACS or ICG hoders than the risk of them getting damaged in a flip.
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They will be fine in the non PVC holders until you remove them to play with them. When more Broken Sword Peace Dollars are minted I plan a custom made holder that displays probably 3 or 4 pieces flipped open but still in the original flips. I think they will tone nicely do you think
Mail came yesterday and NO Coins.
It's the stork I tell you. He still has them in his pouch.:)
I received 2 brass and 2 silver 1934 ST Gaudens,,,,,, no gold. It was a separate order.
Mine came this morning. I'm having a bit of trouble with the color balance but it is a spectacular piece of art in gold.
Just beautiful. I'm very happy I ordered it and wish I would have gone for 2.
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CoinsAreFun Toned Silver Eagle Proof Album
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Gallery Mint Museum, Ron Landis& Joe Rust, The beginnings of the Golden Dollar
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More CoinsAreFun Pictorials NGC
My Owl arrived today and I self slabbed that baby.
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Quality is incredible with no visible remains of the original coin. Well done Mr. Carr.
Anacs sends the original flips back to you, so you still have them. Graded pieces regularly sell for more than raw ones.
Ohhhh Geeeez two packages just arrived from Colorado. Ohhhhh Geeeez!!!
I love the art work and the coin. But think the border is a bit much.
What is the border just wondering?
I just received my Winged Liberty in silver. For a one-man operation (making, shipping, etc) delivery was fast and the piece is beautiful! A friend suggested I have it gold plated! That would be something Mr. Carr could offer but it might conflict with the actual coins struck in gold even though the fineness is on the edge.
I just order the Brass ones and make believe it’s gold.
I see a Ghost Denver MM above the date.
I> @coinsarefun said:
Do they make holders for these?
The outside rim .
I do wish D.C. included a tracking number with email of shipment. I've been going to the post office each day hoping it would be here, lol.
Just received the 1815 Classic Head Large Cent. I can't believe these were this mint red when they were first minted.
- Bob -
MPL's - Lincolns of Color
Central Valley Roosevelts
you bought five of those ?
You can have your cake and eat it to,,,,,,,,,
Some people mentioned that they won't slab their Dan Carr items because they want the original flip and COA with the coin.
Well, ICG will return the flip and COA,,,,,, just ask.
Then I put the COA in the flip and slip it into the self seal bag and seal it and they all stay together.
+1
My first Owl!
Many of Dan's coins develop unsightly tarnish on the edge of the flip that's open. This is true for silver, brass and copper coins. Holdering them solves that problem (if you do so before they tarnish).
Totally agree! I've collected hundreds starting from way back and they will turn if not properly sealed. I've sealed them in the flip and still had them turn, and I store them in the red safety box (or whatever its called) I wish ANACS would 70 the deserving. But I like the angled top so much I'm not switching.
Yes I understand that they will tone as they are exposed to atmosphere but be aware that ANACS and ICG coins must be evaluated by hiding the grade on the holder if one is to consider a fair market value. So Mr. Carr would you consider slabbing equipment for your work ?
Again, you are wrong.
Some ICG coins may be accurately graded but have not been accepted as equal of NGC and PCGS standards. Having been stung on some ANACS coins I know why they trade for far less money most often. Also consider that CAC will not accept those coins for verification for a variety of reasons. Most likely reason is its a waist of time for them because few would ever sticker.
.> @fiftysevener said:
I never said ICG was equal to PCGS but since PCGS doesn't grade Dan Carr items I feel they are the best option,,,,,, I do not care for the yellow label slanted top ANACS holder but that is just my preference.
A MS70 coin is the easiest grade to evaluate. Very easy to tell if a MS70 or MS69 is accurately graded.
I personally like the toning...
was wondering did that tone before are after slabbing ? and if it tone before why wouldn't ANACS fix it before slabbing ?
Dan Carr has posted on here many times how to take care of the toning and has told me through email that it would not effect value if done right
I’ve had to dip about 45 coins including holograms. All came out great
m
Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
@coinsarefun said:
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Coinsarefun that looks like a small die crack by the eagles nose.
1040Coupe yes I got 5 but dont worry there are 195 still available!
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No die crack. I saw that after I was finishing with the images. I took a look at the coin and there is nothing there so, it’s an artifact of imaging the coin.
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CoinsAreFun Toned Silver Eagle Proof Album
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Gallery Mint Museum, Ron Landis& Joe Rust, The beginnings of the Golden Dollar
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More CoinsAreFun Pictorials NGC
Welcome to the forum @fiftysevener.
I'm going to guess that you have been "around-the-block" for a few years from the "name" you have picked. I work for ICG at the moment and feel I should comment on your post.
You posted: "Some ICG coins may be accurately graded but have not been accepted as equal of NGC and PCGS standards."
That is unfortunate but you are exactly correct. There are marketing reasons for this so those who know how to grade can find many excellent bargains in ANACS and ICG slabs.
You also posted: "Also consider that CAC will not accept those coins [ANACS & ICG] for verification for a variety of reasons. Most likely reason is its a waist of time for them because few would ever sticker."
You are correct as far as a "variety of reasons;" however, your statement that it would be a waste of time because few would sticker is very regrettably a case of pure, uninformed NONSENSE." I cannot speak for ANACS but JA has his reasons for not stickering ICG coins. They run deep enough that the prospect of creating additional profits for CAC do not matter to him.
JA has proven to be a very good buisnessman so I'm hoping over the long haul that the present situation will change.
PS I'll look forward to discussing your opinions in the future.
JA has indicated in the past that profits are not why he verifies coins. However it does make it easier for him to buy and sell sight unseen. If he doesn't charge for coins that don't sticker, he WOULD be wasting his time wouldn't he ?
Daniel Carr, PCGS, CAC , in the same sentence? What year is this?
Hey, I do have a few dozen to cross.
Coinsarefun those are some great picture you took. I noticed on my last attempt to take pictures of the gold coins they all came out toooo bright. I had to cut out the lights. Almost a dark shade . Strange ! Any tips?
Hello Bull I like that combination. I got some to send in but not the DC Coins.
Gluggo, try PhotoScape.
Yes, mine was coming out to bright as well. I tried two ways. Cut down on the lighting and keep the lighting but adjust the
light level on the remote camera software. The remote software came out much better.
.
CoinsAreFun Toned Silver Eagle Proof Album
.
Gallery Mint Museum, Ron Landis& Joe Rust, The beginnings of the Golden Dollar
.
More CoinsAreFun Pictorials NGC
Thanks I will try that. Once again seriously great pics!
Man these are sweet coins. Most recent 'high grade' coins have incredible luster and bloom. I just love his work. And I'll wait for your imaging tutorial to follow. Nice work
ANACS and ICG may be worth less than ngc and pcgs graded coins, but you can throw this out the window with Carr coins. They are the only ones to grade them, so they bring more than raw.
I forgot I have photoscape. I use it when I want to take the photo and crop it perfectly round. I will try that next time to adjust the brightness. Thank you
You're comparing apples and oranges, and seem to arguing for the sake of arguing. The discussion of ANACS/ICG vs. PCGS/NGC + CAC for US mint coins has 0% relevance to the discussion of ANACS/ICG for Daniel Carr.