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Is there a series within our hobby that maintains its integrity- so to speak- and allows for some old fashion collecting without the worrisome threats of carnival barkers or skullduggery?
Perhaps pleasantly circulated wheatbacks?
Any suggestions? Are there some coins within your collection that are your go-to coins when you want to escape the modern warfare of numismatics?
Perhaps pleasantly circulated wheatbacks?
Any suggestions? Are there some coins within your collection that are your go-to coins when you want to escape the modern warfare of numismatics?
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Is there a series within our hobby that maintains its integrity- so to speak- and allows for some old fashion collecting without the worrisome threats
How about SCD, tokens and charms
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Maybe all current circulated coins are the ones with immunity
Just watch out for circulated Sacs from South America
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George V Canadian Large Cents- I suspect the question of red could be an issue
Edward VII Canadian Large Cents- same comment as above
I was going to suggest British pennies from the reigns of Edward VII and George V but there can even be grading concerns with these given the range in quality.
In terms of US-
How about III Cent nickels? Seems to be a reasonable possibility
Experience the World through Numismatics...it's more than you can imagine.
And a series from Canada: http://www.mint.ca/store/searc...Fheader.jsp.formSearch
Niobium colors result from oxidation (not paint). I'm guessing it'd be difficult to counterfeit. Anyway, I haven't seen any fakes.
I bought one for my "Time"-theme coin collection. Pleasantly surprised how nice it is in-hand:
Of course, these coins don't allow for old-fashioned collecting -- they're not in general circulation.
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Culls, Dateless buffalo nickels.
Unfortunately the Chinese are specializing in making problem coins, what I would call "culls." They have even succeeded in getting them into the "genuine" PCGS and NGC holders. The trick is they are able to polish off the lumps and other problems with their counterfeits which have been the hallmarks that gave them away in the past.
So no. The cull coin market is far from immune to market manipulation. It's at the center of manipulation of the worst kind, the sale of counterfeits.
Is there a series within our hobby that maintains its integrity- so to speak- and allows for some old fashion collecting...
By "old fashion collecting", do you mean filling an album with coins found in general circulation?
Then maybe you'd like State quarters (1999 - 2008) and America The Beautiful quarters (2010 - 2021).
But their high mintage means they'll likely never be valuable.
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Only available at Coinstar reject trays and parking lots.
I am building a date mint mark set of them.
For awhile I picked up a couple of used DANSCO albums. One was the Jefferson series and the second was the clad Washington quarters.
I'd check my change and would add to both albums on a regular basis. When I got a little bored with them I'd put a ten dollar bill in a local
self carwash change machine and add to the collection that way.
It's sort of collecting within collecting. Nothing series, yet going back to our roots. (How fun would it be to find a 1950-D Jefferson in change?)
What is revealing though is at the end of this exercise, ounce the sets are
complete I will still only have coins, for the most part, worth only face, yet won't really care.
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For awhile I picked up a couple of used DANSCO albums. One was the Jefferson series and the second was the clad Washington quarters.
I'd check my change and would add to both albums on a regular basis. When I got a little bored with them I'd put a ten dollar bill in a local
self carwash change machine and add to the collection that way.
It's sort of collecting within collecting. Nothing series, yet going back to our roots. (How fun would it be to find a 1950-D Jefferson in change?)
What is revealing though is at the end of this exercise, ounce the sets are
complete I will still only have coins, for the most part, worth only face, yet won't really care.
I collect clad quarters from circulation. I've been checking four or five rolls a month for 50 years and on a whim when the states quarters were announced in 1996 I started saving all the varieties and the best coin of each year.
It's a really fun collection and it has a lot of truly scarce coins. Each year that goes by the coins stand out more and more. I also collect the dimes but spend much less effort on them. I don't care what anyone says they're worth because many of them are priceless to me.
There won't be many collections like your's and mine in the future. Things like nice AU '69 quarters will be virtually unknown.
If anything they are certainly treated like dog meat or a leper by the markets and catalogers. A nice chBU '82-P lists in the Redbook for $3 but if you want a well made and choice example you'll pay over $500 for a graded piece. Even a poorly made BU will run $50 on eBay and the Redbook lists it for $3.
I seriously doubt any counterfeiter would be interested in a market like this. I've certainly never seen a counterfeit but once saw a nice gemmy '68 (P) dime in a 1968 proof set being passed off as the NO-S dime. Grading is simple because every coin is either unc or it's not. It's impossible for anyone to have enough of any circulating clad to affect the market. There are a few hoards but they're far too small to direct prices.
from what ive seen, no holds are barred.
the more esoteric, the less likely. mostly due to the lack of someone getting a hold of such items to fake, not from a lack of desire to do so.
"allows for some old fashion collecting without the worrisome threats of carnival barkers or skullduggery"
it doesnt seem to be too bad. perhaps with enough of the above, one's tolerance/skin becomes more tolerant?
"Are there some coins within your collection that are your go-to coins when you want to escape the modern warfare of numismatics? "
for the most part, anywhere i go seems to be fairly benign, thankfully; but conversations are inevitable about such things as they are a part of life.
getting in and out of shows/shops quickly is a good way to get out "clean." usually.
not for me though. i learned long ago that i wont get through this life unscathed. fruitless to try. just try to minimize/diffuse as much as tolerance allows and learn a ton in the process.
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