Which Presidential candidate attended a MAJOR Numismatic auction ?
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Donald Trump attended the Stack's auction of Mister 1796 in the late 1990's
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Did he win anything?
yah , most of the south and a lot of other states
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What ever happened to your Larry Stack thread......
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Did he win anything?
yah , most of the south and a lot of other states
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I woud add two others to that list.
Donald Trump made an appearance at the Stack's (NY) sale of the Whitney Collection of 1796 coins, on May 4, 1999. This historical note should not be interpreted as an endorsement of Trump. I am not now supporting any candidate. Also, I do not think that people should communicate their political views on this forum, except for political views that clearly relate to rare coins.
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How can U think the appearance of Donald Trump at a coin auction is of historical importance ? This is a PCGS forumand not a Greg Reynolds forum ! This is my thread so please do not tell me or anyone else what U think should be said. Why are U not a coin dealer or even a coin collector ? perhaps we should tell U what to say ? Many of us don't like when u criticise certain coins. You are not John Albanese ! If U put anAnalyststicker on a slab, who do you think would buy it ? You are not a coin genius !
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Stewart: "How can U think the appearance of Donald Trump at a coin auction is of historical importance?"
I did not say it was a matter of great importance. Specifically, I said this appearance was an "historical note."
Stewart: "This is my thread so please do not tell me or anyone else what U think should be said."
I was not criticizing or commenting upon anyone'e political views. Quite the opposite is true, I was making clear that I was recollecting an "historical note" without political implications.
A few years ago, there was considerable political discussion on this forum, most of which was entirely unrelated to coins or other numismatic topics. Indeed, some members were using this forum as a platform to express their respective political views. Stewart Blay was not one such member. I did not intend to imply that he would use this thread for a political purpose. I am sorry if my post above sounded like an accusation; that was not my intention.
I was really just saying that people should not blatantly express their political views in a coin forum, IMO. Furthermore, before I posted, it seemed that this thread was moving in the direction of being politicized. If some members bash one candidate, it becomes likely that supporters of that candidate post to the thread to bash other candidates. I was trying to save this thread from being politicized, not to hijack it. Also, I was the only who answered the question in the top post.
Now, Stewart, my friend for more than 25 years, has forced me to defend myself. Ironically, Stewart and I share a belief in the importance of originality and are often in agreement regarding the grades of specific coins. He should be supporting my efforts, not ridiculing me.
When he bids, people say Trump always wins. And he bids a lot so he wins a lot. Truthfully, some of his collections are on the registry, and they win awards a lot.
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Donald Trump attended the Stack's auction of Mister 1796 in the late 1990's
Stewart Blay
Stewart, I attended that sale (for about an hour) and sat right next to Trump. I didn't speak to him -- and he didn't seem to want to talk -- but what I recall most vividly is that he had wildly-unkempt eyebrows. Funny.
As I recall there was a personal/business connection between Trump and Whitney. Someone told me that Whitney was a long-tim friend of his, who had been in charge of his security detail for years (or something to that effect).
John
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Whitney is Trumps cousin ..... And Trump is Whitney's cousin
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I had no idea the Donald was a collector of coins, like us. Now I even have more reasons to love the guy. Thank you for that information and this wonderful thread.
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He's not. He was only there to watch the auction -- didn't raise his hand once.
Stewart... I absolutely remember hearing that as well. Is it possible he is both a cousin AND security detail?
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PNG: Executive Director (www.pngdealers.org)
Donald Trump, frankly, people have said he has a coin collection that's fantastic. I heard he bought a tremendous $50 Pan-Pac coin and sold it for a profit that was, frankly, yuge.
When he bids, people say Trump always wins. And he bids a lot so he wins a lot. Truthfully, some of his collections are on the registry, and they win awards a lot.
I can tell you this: that was well crafted
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It is unlikely that Stewart himself has been upset about my remarks pertaining to "certain coins." He has attacked me in this thread without a rational reason. Privately, I asked him to pare down his nasty post earlier in this thread. He has not done so.
I frequently discuss specific coins with leading grading experts. Some experts are explicitly mentioned in my articles; others wish to remain unmentioned. Further, although I never claimed to have the talents of John Albanese and I have publicly referred to John as the 'Ted Williams of coin grading,' I do honestly regard myself as an expert. I have been analyzing coins and writing about them for more than twenty-five years and I have learned much from many coin experts along the way, including Stewart.
Generally (though not always), the people who are upset about my interpretations of coins fall into three categories:
1) Those who doctor coins or knowingly sell doctored coins probably do not like my discussions of or references to coin doctoring. The trafficking of doctored coins is widespread in the coin business.
2) There are dealers who do not know how to grade coins well and wish for their customers to think that they do. They do not want their customers to read more accurate interpretations in published articles.
3) Competent dealers who deliberately or negligently mis-represent coins do not wish for their customers to read fair and carefully formulated interpretations of the same coins in articles.
The Specter of Coin Doctoring and The Survival of Great Coins
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Stewart: "You are not John Albanese! ... Many of us don't like when u criticise certain coins."
It is unlikely that Stewart himself has been upset about my remarks pertaining to "certain coins." He has attacked me in this thread without a rational reason. Privately, I asked him to pare down his nasty post earlier in this thread. He has not done so.
I frequently discuss specific coins with leading grading experts. Some experts are explicitly mentioned in my articles; others wish to remain unmentioned. Further, although I never claimed to have the talents of John Albanese and I have publicly referred to John as the 'Ted Williams of coin grading,' I do honestly regard myself as an expert. I have been analyzing coins and writing about them for more than twenty-five years and I have learned much from many coin experts along the way, including Stewart.
Generally (though not always), the people who are upset about my interpretations of coins fall into three categories:
1) Those who doctor coins or knowingly sell doctored coins probably do not like my discussions of or references to coin doctoring. The trafficking of doctored coins is widespread in the coin business.
2) There are dealers who do not know how to grade coins well and wish for their customers to think that they do. They do not want their customers to read more accurate interpretations in published articles.
3) Competent dealers who deliberately or negligently mis-represent coins do not wish for their customers to read fair and carefully formulated interpretations of the same coins in articles.
The Specter of Coin Doctoring and The Survival of Great Coins
How will Coin Collectors Interpret Certified Coin Grades in the Future?
Analyst, Your totally hijacking this thread with your woe is me plea.
Just walk away and get the bunch out of your panties.
NGC registry V-Nickel proof #6!!!!
working on proof shield nickels # 8 with a bullet!!!!
RIP "BEAR"
Stewart Blay for president!!
Anybody but Trump for president!!!
I woud add two others to that list.
This.
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"Sou Mangueira......."
Stewart: "You are not John Albanese! ... Many of us don't like when u criticise certain coins."
It is unlikely that Stewart himself has been upset about my remarks pertaining to "certain coins." He has attacked me in this thread without a rational reason. Privately, I asked him to pare down his nasty post earlier in this thread. He has not done so.
I frequently discuss specific coins with leading grading experts. Some experts are explicitly mentioned in my articles; others wish to remain unmentioned. Further, although I never claimed to have the talents of John Albanese and I have publicly referred to John as the 'Ted Williams of coin grading,' I do honestly regard myself as an expert. I have been analyzing coins and writing about them for more than twenty-five years and I have learned much from many coin experts along the way, including Stewart.
Generally (though not always), the people who are upset about my interpretations of coins fall into three categories:
1) Those who doctor coins or knowingly sell doctored coins probably do not like my discussions of or references to coin doctoring. The trafficking of doctored coins is widespread in the coin business.
2) There are dealers who do not know how to grade coins well and wish for their customers to think that they do. They do not want their customers to read more accurate interpretations in published articles.
3) Competent dealers who deliberately or negligently mis-represent coins do not wish for their customers to read fair and carefully formulated interpretations of the same coins in articles.
The Specter of Coin Doctoring and The Survival of Great Coins
How will Coin Collectors Interpret Certified Coin Grades in the Future?
Fourth category - those who think you missed the mark on certain coins yet you don't acknowledge that you could be wrong and disparage their comments. For instance you rather rudely called my statement false that many leading dealers and collectors hated the Newman 1796 quarter....and yet many of those very persons have posted such in this forum about the coin.
TDN: "Fourth category"
There is no need for a fourth category, as I said above, 'Generally (though not always)'. The exceptions deflect attention from the rules. In most cases, the people who are upset about my comments regarding specific coins fall into those three categories. I will stand my ground when faced with negative remarks from people who doctor coins and from people who deliberately or carelessly mis-reprsesent coins.
TDN: " .. you don't acknowledge that you could be wrong ..."
I have always maintained that no one can bat 1.000, or close to it, when grading coins. We will all strike-out or ground out on occasion. A point that I made in other threads is that I am subject to scrutiny, feedback, oversight and public reactions. Grading dealers can tell a client on the phone that a coin grades MS-65, even if 95% of other experts do not grade that particular coin as MS-65.
I resented the implied message earlier in this thread that I am not qualified to grade coins because I am not buying the coins that I am grading. There are logical reasons for theorizing that an openly grading writer is a better grader than people who have 'skin in the game,' as they voice grades in private conversations that are not reviewed by anyone. I often place my grades out in the open. A quiet dealer who has much 'skin in the game' could be lying or incompetently making false statements to his clients or customers. Most false or otherwise misleading statements about coins are made in private conversations. It is important to discuss coins in the open.
Also, TDN is ignoring the fact that I frequently consult other experts and regularly quote others in a very public manner. I am announcing to tens of thousands of people that I am not grading alone. There are plenty of cases where I have, in writing, referred to experts who have opinions that are inconsistent with my own about particular coins.