Kinda bummed on the chrome refractors. I was hoping one per box. I'm collecting all the refractors back to 2003. Got the 2001 and 2002 chrome sets, not sure I'm up to chase the refractors again, but I probably will. I'll be retiring from Heritage in 2022, 1973 was the end of my pack busting youth. Seems like an appropriate time to stop.
Originally posted by: alma1960I'll be retiring from Heritage in 2022, 1973 was the end of my pack busting youth. Seems like an appropriate time to stop.
This is my first Heritage case purchase since 2011. Of course 1967 is my favorite set. Not sure why folks jump at the super short prints so early. I've been purchasing complete sets each September for $200 or so. If I come across any SSP or variations I'll post the card code. Going to look over box #1 to check codes. Honestly, the color on the 2016 Heritage just doesn't pop off the card like my 1967 set.
Early info indicated that the code trick will not work this year for finding ssp's. So far the glossy backs and gum stain backs Have been confirmed. How cool would it be if topps inserted ssp error cards randomly in packs, so you couldn't tell by the code or the placement in packs, but only by studying the cards and card backs.
I'm not sure that would be "cool". Reading the micro print codes at my age is a pain in the a$$. The 426-500 cards all have the same code as regular cards: CMP017299
What info makes you believe the codes aren't in play for 2016?
Originally posted by: alma1960 Looks like I was on the wrong thread:
Case arrived:
Opened Box #1: 8 SP 426-500 2 News flashbacks 2 baseball flashbacks 3 new age performers 2 then and now Chrome: Albert Pujols 107/999 Black Chrome Refractor: Matt Harvey 07/67 Autograph: Blue: Corey Seager RC
Probably pulled the only auto in the case in the first box
Don't disagree, getting an auto in box #1 is pretty sweet. (top center box of the case btw)
For all code hunters, sorted the first box, all set cards in box #1 have the same code. I'll keep looking but Walt has me paranoid I might now miss a subtle variation SSP worth $$$$. I'll pay close attention to the card numbers from the 1967 set that had variations. I haven't followed SSP variations much the last few years, do they still seem to trend the same as the original set?
i would recommend you do not rush to sell. put all your stuff in order and wait for the breakers to break. plenty of info will be available in a weeks time.
Also, the Seager auto is one of the best you can get.
Big Fan of: HOF Post War RC, Graded RCs WTB: PSA 1 - PSA 3 Centered, High Eye Appeal 1950's Mantle
Opened Box #2: 9 SP 426-500 2 News flashbacks 2 baseball flashbacks 3 new age performers 2 then and now Chrome: Masahiro Tanaka 495/999 Chrome Refractor: Joey Votto 475/567 -- only need 99 more Clubhouse collection: Joey Votto
AND.... I think I have a SP variation of #400 Andrew McCutchen. As Walt suggested, the code is the same as the other cards but this is an "in action" photo. His cards I see on Ebay are portrait shots. I'd be curious if others come across this card. McCutchen is completing his swing, all white Pirates uniform (retro) 1971.
"One new wrinkle that will likely draw the ire of many collectors deals with the code on the card back. Long used to help differentiate the various variations from the base cards, we have been informed that this is no longer the case and all code numbers are now the same. This makes the card front differences that much more important and removes a viable backup option for determining variations."
Originally posted by: ZTarg Box 4 - Trout gum stain.
Wouldn't it be really easy to fake one of those now that all the cards have the same back code? Or are there other differences to know it's a 'factory' gum stain?
Instead of hurting the collector by making all the codes the same, Topps should have figured out how to keep all the clubhouse collection cards from ending up in the same spot in every box.
Happy Heritage Day! One of my favorite times of the year. The only new product I rip, and I savor it. I'll open my first box of the case on Saturday, hopefully in front of the Dodgers' 1st televised Cactus League game on MLB network (still feels wrong that they're not in Vero Beach this time of year). It'll take me about a week to finish opening the 12 boxes.
Looking forward to seeing everybody's hits and trading with the regulars (and maybe some newbies?) to help me finish off my "master" set.
I have decided to jump on the Heritage band wagon this year as 1967 Topps is one of my favorite sets ever. I picked up 2 hobby boxes from the local card shop tonight and busted one. I got lucky and it was a hot box with a purple refractor in every pack. Also hit a Jon Gray RC Auto, Billy Hamilton Action variation, Miguel Carbrera chrome & a Matt Harvey Chrome Refractor. The box topper was a Mark Teixeira poster. Almost all the purple refractors were star players with the best one being 2016 Cubs Rookie Stars w/ Schwarber.
I have not had a chance to go through and check for color swaps, gum stains or high number short prints yet.
I don't know a lot about the Heritage product but that seems like a pretty good box to me!
Opened Box #3: Hot box 24 Purple Refractors 7 SP 426-500 2 News flashbacks 2 baseball flashbacks 3 new age performers 3 then and now Chrome: Nelson Cruz 153/999 Chrome Refractor: Clayton Kershaw 135/567 -- only need 98 more Red Autograph: Doug Clemens 35/67 (I remember his card from 1967)
2 Questions: I'm not a huge fan of the gum stain cards. I pulled one, is there much of a premium for these cards? #2, In 3 boxes I've pulled 2 Corey Seager cards, #168. I see several (25) listed on Ebay as Action SPs. Is this really a SP?
Originally posted by: paleocards Happy Heritage Day! One of my favorite times of the year. The only new product I rip, and I savor it. I'll open my first box of the case on Saturday, hopefully in front of the Dodgers' 1st televised Cactus League game on MLB network (still feels wrong that they're not in Vero Beach this time of year). It'll take me about a week to finish opening the 12 boxes.
Looking forward to seeing everybody's hits and trading with the regulars (and maybe some newbies?) to help me finish off my "master" set.
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2024 for me, based purely on design.
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.....Dude that paid $175 for that Seager got hosed.
During a hosing it is always best to be holding the spigot, and not the spout. Solid advice right there.
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Have been confirmed. How cool would it be if topps inserted ssp error cards randomly in packs, so you couldn't tell by the code or the placement in packs, but only by studying the cards and card backs.
What info makes you believe the codes aren't in play for 2016?
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Looks like I was on the wrong thread:
Case arrived:
Opened Box #1:
8 SP 426-500
2 News flashbacks
2 baseball flashbacks
3 new age performers
2 then and now
Chrome: Albert Pujols 107/999
Black Chrome Refractor: Matt Harvey 07/67
Autograph: Blue: Corey Seager RC
Probably pulled the only auto in the case in the first box
I'm back in 3rd grade again.
Hellacious 1st box IMO , ink is always good.
Now collecting:
Topps Heritage
1957 Topps BB Ex+-NM
All Yaz Items 7+
Various Red Sox
Did I leave anything out?
For all code hunters, sorted the first box, all set cards in box #1 have the same code. I'll keep looking but Walt has me paranoid I might now miss a subtle variation SSP worth $$$$. I'll pay close attention to the card numbers from the 1967 set that had variations. I haven't followed SSP variations much the last few years, do they still seem to trend the same as the original set?
Topps Heritage 2001-Now
Topps Heritage Blue Autos (2016-2022)
Also, the Seager auto is one of the best you can get.
WTB: PSA 1 - PSA 3 Centered, High Eye Appeal 1950's Mantle
Prices start dropping. Just my opinion
Now collecting:
Topps Heritage
1957 Topps BB Ex+-NM
All Yaz Items 7+
Various Red Sox
Did I leave anything out?
The thing is once Brent&Becca and other case busters start posting to EBay
Prices start dropping. Just my opinion
i understand that, then no complaining that "oh, i sold it too cheap!" LOL
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Opened Box #2:
9 SP 426-500
2 News flashbacks
2 baseball flashbacks
3 new age performers
2 then and now
Chrome: Masahiro Tanaka 495/999
Chrome Refractor: Joey Votto 475/567 -- only need 99 more
Clubhouse collection: Joey Votto
AND.... I think I have a SP variation of #400 Andrew McCutchen. As Walt suggested, the code is the same as the other cards but this is an "in action" photo. His cards I see on Ebay are portrait shots.
I'd be curious if others come across this card. McCutchen is completing his swing, all white Pirates uniform (retro) 1971.
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The thing is once Brent&Becca and other case busters start posting to EBay
Prices start dropping. Just my opinion
i understand that, then no complaining that "oh, i sold it too cheap!" LOL
I gotcha, it just seems the crazy prices are realized early. As a disclaimer I'm never quick enough to get the crazy prices.
Now collecting:
Topps Heritage
1957 Topps BB Ex+-NM
All Yaz Items 7+
Various Red Sox
Did I leave anything out?
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Topps Heritage Blue Autos (2016-2022)
Action sps are one per box. Good to see some long timers here.
Agreed. Been a long time since I've talked to guys like Chris (knopfler) and Dave (magellan). Good to see you guys are still around.
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Taken from:
http://www.cardboardconnection.com/2016-topps-heritage-baseball-variations-guide
"One new wrinkle that will likely draw the ire of many collectors deals with the code on the card back. Long used to help differentiate the various variations from the base cards, we have been informed that this is no longer the case and all code numbers are now the same. This makes the card front differences that much more important and removes a viable backup option for determining variations."
.......McCutchen is completing his swing, all white Pirates uniform (retro) 1971.
That sounds like throwback uniform which is better than action pose. Nice hit.
.......Good to see some long timers here.
New members
Are into heritage too.
Myself for example. I've collected heritage for over
8 years now. I try to make two sets.
1 set is to keep, and set number
2 is to sell.
Why the heck did that come out all choppy?
Action sps are one per box. Good to see some long timers here.
Agreed. Been a long time since I've talked to guys like Chris (knopfler) and Mike (magellan). Good to see you guys are still around.
Agreed, seems I'm only around during Heritage season.
Thanks Geordie
Dave
Now collecting:
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1957 Topps BB Ex+-NM
All Yaz Items 7+
Various Red Sox
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Box 4 - Trout gum stain.
Wouldn't it be really easy to fake one of those now that all the cards have the same back code? Or are there other differences to know it's a 'factory' gum stain?
Now collecting:
Topps Heritage
1957 Topps BB Ex+-NM
All Yaz Items 7+
Various Red Sox
Did I leave anything out?
If anyone needs anything let me know.
Now collecting:
Topps Heritage
1957 Topps BB Ex+-NM
All Yaz Items 7+
Various Red Sox
Did I leave anything out?
2016 Topps Heritage Baseball Variations Master Checklist
21 Didi Gregorius - Action Image
23 Brandon Phillips - Throwback
31 Alfredo Simon - Throwback
45 Hanley Ramirez - Error
70 Kris Bryant - Color Swap
77 Evan Gattis - Color Swap
78 Jake Arrieta - Action Image
88 Xander Bogaerts - Action Image
100 Adam Jones - Color Swap
120 Billy Hamilton - Acton Image
128 Mike Moustakas - Error
132 Ichiro - Action Image
157 Manny Machado - Action Image
161 Kyle Schwarber - Action Image RC
168 Corey Seager - Acton Image RC
181 Aaron Nola - Action Image RC
183 Stephen Piscotty - Action Image RC
190 Luis Severino - Action Image RC
195 Nolan Arenado - Action Image
195 Nolan Arenado - Color Swap
226 Carlos Rodon - Throwback
254 Dee Gordon - Error
302 Salvador Perez - Color Swap
310 Chris Sale - Color Swap
322 Giancarlo Stanton - Action Image
322 Giancarlo Stanton - Color Swap
371 Yasmany Tomas - Color Swap
400 Andrew McCutchen - Action Image
410 Yasiel Puig - Action Image
425 Gerrit Cole - Color Swap
426 Clayton Kershaw - Color Swap
432 Robinson Cano - Action Image
435 Chris Archer - Color Swap
436 Masahiro Tanaka - Color Swap
443 Yu Darvish - Color Swap
446 Troy Tulowitzki - Action Image
450 Bryce Harper - Action Image
450 Bryce Harper - Color Swap
460 Buster Posey - Action Image
460 Buster Posey - Color Swap
469 Mookie Betts - Action Image
475 Carlos Correa - Action Image
479 Lorenzo Cain - Action Image
481 Albert Pujols - Color Swap
482 Francisco Lindor - Action Image
492 Noah Syndergaard - Action Image
495 Jacob DeGrom - Color Swap
500 Mike Trout - Action Image
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Now collecting:
Topps Heritage
1957 Topps BB Ex+-NM
All Yaz Items 7+
Various Red Sox
Did I leave anything out?
WTB: PSA 1 - PSA 3 Centered, High Eye Appeal 1950's Mantle
One of my favorite times of the year. The only new product I rip, and I savor it. I'll open my first box of the case on Saturday, hopefully in front of the Dodgers' 1st televised Cactus League game on MLB network (still feels wrong that they're not in Vero Beach this time of year). It'll take me about a week to finish opening the 12 boxes.
Looking forward to seeing everybody's hits and trading with the regulars (and maybe some newbies?) to help me finish off my "master" set.
Have fun, Heritage gang!
I have not had a chance to go through and check for color swaps, gum stains or high number short prints yet.
I don't know a lot about the Heritage product but that seems like a pretty good box to me!
Topps Heritage 2001-Now
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WTB: PSA 1 - PSA 3 Centered, High Eye Appeal 1950's Mantle
I'm here to make my yearly plea to please contact me if you pull a Dave Nicholson 1967 buyback
Topps Heritage 2001-Now
Topps Heritage Blue Autos (2016-2022)
24 Purple Refractors
7 SP 426-500
2 News flashbacks
2 baseball flashbacks
3 new age performers
3 then and now
Chrome: Nelson Cruz 153/999
Chrome Refractor: Clayton Kershaw 135/567 -- only need 98 more
Red Autograph: Doug Clemens 35/67 (I remember his card from 1967)
2 Questions: I'm not a huge fan of the gum stain cards. I pulled one, is there much of a premium for these cards? #2, In 3 boxes I've pulled 2 Corey Seager cards, #168. I see several (25) listed on Ebay as Action SPs. Is this really a SP?
Topps Heritage 2001-Now
Topps Heritage Blue Autos (2016-2022)
Gum stain. Milone,Gausman,Montero,Harang
Action Gregorius,Syndergaard,Arena do
Chrome. Trout,Vogt,Teixeira
Refs Brantley,A Simmons
GU Kang,Matz, Kluber/99
Glossy front Bucholz
Happy Heritage Day!
One of my favorite times of the year. The only new product I rip, and I savor it. I'll open my first box of the case on Saturday, hopefully in front of the Dodgers' 1st televised Cactus League game on MLB network (still feels wrong that they're not in Vero Beach this time of year). It'll take me about a week to finish opening the 12 boxes.
Looking forward to seeing everybody's hits and trading with the regulars (and maybe some newbies?) to help me finish off my "master" set.
Have fun, Heritage gang!
Hi, Andy! Good luck with your rip!
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