Should this coin have graded problem-free?
lkeigwin
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I don't think so. But I'd like to hear from others.
FWIW, it is in a no-problem holder. The coin is not mine.
Lance.
FWIW, it is in a no-problem holder. The coin is not mine.
Lance.
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missing the 1 there
They may be slightly easier on them when the date starts with a 17.
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I don't know specifically what you think will give this coin a "details" grade, but odd color on the obverse is not unusual. The copper that went into these coins was acquired for wherever the mint could find it and had many impurities. Laminations and two tone color are not unusual. The mark of 4 k on the obverse and the mark by the "1" in the faction on the reverse sort of fall into the "so what?" category. I believe that this coin is an S-9 and the "1" in the fraction was weak from the get-go. The surfaces in general are hard and brown and just about good as good as you could hope for from a circulated Wreath Cent.
Given that it is an NGC I'd say it graded EF easily and might even be called an AU. I don't agree with the grade, but I've seen enough of these coins in holders to know that the standards are not overly rigorous.
Bill Jones couldn't have stated it better. This is a beautiful coin
for when it was made, using often terrible planchets with
defects, uneven surfaces and less than quality machinery.
There are a number of S-9 pieces with very shallow 1's in
the fraction. This could also be a strike through, or clash mark
damage.
R.I.P. Bear
These coins are graded liberally, with obvious damage like scratches, rim dents, corrosion, etc. just rolled into the net grade. That being said, the fraction looks like it was tooled off intentionally, and I therefore wouldn't be a fan of buying this one in a straight grade holder.
This was my thought but then I second-guessed that the 1 might be weakly defined and the damage around it was coincidental.
I have seen one other S-9 with a weak numerator but the others were pretty strong. Maybe I haven't seen enough examples.
Lance.
What don't you like about it? The damage at 4:00 on the obverse? The couple of splotches of PVC? The corrosion on the obverse? The rim dings? The damage on the reverse that looks like the 1 of the 1/100 was removed?
They may be slightly easier on them when the date starts with a 17.
I really like your thoughts, especially about the 17.
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Here is the coin. It is an S-11c.
and do not criticize condition (just a collector, not a dealer). A 220 year old copper coin
is magnificent even with minor blemishes...Cheers, RickO
K
I've seen much worse in straight graded holders, and some in genny holders
that aren't too bad (like the one in my own set).
This goes double for Chain Cents and Wreath Cents. Unless you are ready to pay at least a high 5 or even 6 figure amounts, there is going to be something wrong with the coin that you won't like. For the great rarities, like the Strawberry leaf and Jefferson Head coins, nice ones do not exist, period.