80% of kids 20 and under have never worn a watch of any kind. This is about to change in a meaningful way with the non gold Apple watch. The next couple of generations of Apple watches will sort out the battery life ( now estimated at 18 hours). Wearables in general will be the next big thing. I swear I've never seen such a collective group of old lemonade sipping porch sitting old thinking farts in my life..........all gathered in one location boot
Every Apple thread has been met with resistance. Apple is a machine and is the smartest person in the room. Ride the wave until it isn't. Even if the watch is a bust Apple is a cash cow. The Apple watch is gravy. Moo
Mark
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<< <i>80% of kids 20 and under have never worn a watch of any kind. This is about to change in a meaningful way with the non gold Apple watch. The next couple of generations of Apple watches will sort out the battery life ( now estimated at 18 hours). Wearables in general will be the next big thing. I swear I've never seen such a collective group of old lemonade sipping porch sitting old thinking farts in my life..........all gathered in one location boot
Every Apple thread has been met with resistance. Apple is a machine and is the smartest person in the room. Ride the wave until it isn't. Even if the watch is a bust Apple is a cash cow. The Apple watch is gravy. Moo
<< <i>80% of kids 20 and under have never worn a watch of any kind. This is about to change in a meaningful way with the non gold Apple watch. The next couple of generations of Apple watches will sort out the battery life ( now estimated at 18 hours). Wearables in general will be the next big thing. I swear I've never seen such a collective group of old lemonade sipping porch sitting old thinking farts in my life..........all gathered in one location boot
Every Apple thread has been met with resistance. Apple is a machine and is the smartest person in the room. Ride the wave until it isn't. Even if the watch is a bust Apple is a cash cow. The Apple watch is gravy. Moo
I need apple to sell me a watch that won't last a full day without a charge I suppose if I don't make it home by midnight it will just go blank?
Better buy a few extra proprietary iChargers for it >>
And your a zombie too? Charge it when you go to sleep just like your phone. Please tell me you have a phone
If it's a problem I'm 100% sure Apple will work it out with an added cost. At least I hope so
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Oddly enough I do have a sundial . unlike the iWatch it never needs to be charged as it is fully solar powered.
Actually right now its buried under the snow pack so it's not working at all , while it might be green energy , solar has a few disadvantages that are real showstoppers
<< <i>Oddly enough I do have a sundial . unlike the iWatch it never needs to be charged as it is fully solar powered.
Actually right now its buried under the snow pack so it's not working at all , while it might be green energy , solar has a few disadvantages that are real showstoppers >>
Bronco....I love it! Maybe I will get a sundial.....always liked them. I also enjoy all the great stuff you post here.....but....different strokes for different folks and we all should celebrate our differences and try not to be critical of others. I grew up in snow country. However, I was fortunate enough(my feeling) to leave it long ago. You are under snow pack...tomorrow I will be tending to my foot high tomato plants in temps in the low 80s. I also probably will buy an entry level Apple Watch when released. I try not to repeatedly redicule what others like, buy, eat, use or how they live. Life is short. I like my toys and respect what others play with. It is all personal choice and I can live with that. My toys are no better or worse than yours. Enough already....we all know you don't like modern technology....especially Apple, a great company in many many peoples minds. You have made that point here quite often. I can live with that but it does get repetitive. Enjoy. Best!
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MJ, is Apple going to provide financing for the watch in the same way Att and Verizon did for the phones? $400 +tax in one shot is a bit different than $25 a month for 2 years hidden within your cell phone service contract.
I think this product is also very limited in the professions that will buy it. Right now plumbers, mechanics, carpenters, landscapers, assembly line workers, ect all use iPhones. These "labor intensive" professions will not buy an iwatch. Also I cannot see many women wearing this product, no matter how much bling they put on the band.
I think the market is very limited for such a product, especially if folks realized it doesnt cost $25/month. I think the market for the watch is no more than 10% of that of the phone and probably much less when factored globally.
<< <i>MJ, is Apple going to provide financing for the watch in the same way Att and Verizon did for the phones? $400 +tax in one shot is a bit different than $25 a month for 2 years hidden within your cell phone service contract.
I think this product is also very limited in the professions that will buy it. Right now plumbers, mechanics, carpenters, landscapers, assembly line workers, ect all use iPhones. These "labor intensive" professions will not buy an iwatch. Also I cannot see many women wearing this product, no matter how much bling they put on the band.
I think the market is very limited for such a product, especially if folks realized it doesnt cost $25/month. I think the market for the watch is no more than 10% of that of the phone and probably much less when factored globally. >>
As you know I work in the fashion industry. All the young female fashionista's in my office aren't debating if they are getting an Apple Watch. They are debating on which one they will get. None of them currently wear a watch. My landscaper slash handyman can't wait to get an Apple watch so he can view all his texts (mostly from me) without having to pull his phone out.
Personally I think the Apple Watch will be a slow grind up. People just don't know that they need one yet
Mark
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Dave as far as financing I Phones to Watches its Apples to Oranges no pun intended. The watch is purely discretionary and thats why the expectations are lower. In a perfect world for me the sales start off slow.
Mark
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<< <i>MJ, is Apple going to provide financing for the watch in the same way Att and Verizon did for the phones? $400 +tax in one shot is a bit different than $25 a month for 2 years hidden within your cell phone service contract.
I think this product is also very limited in the professions that will buy it. Right now plumbers, mechanics, carpenters, landscapers, assembly line workers, ect all use iPhones. These "labor intensive" professions will not buy an iwatch. Also I cannot see many women wearing this product, no matter how much bling they put on the band.
I think the market is very limited for such a product, especially if folks realized it doesnt cost $25/month. I think the market for the watch is no more than 10% of that of the phone and probably much less when factored globally. >>
As you know I work in the fashion industry. All the young female fashionista's in my office aren't debating if they are getting an Apple Watch. They are debating on which one they will get. None of them currently wear a watch. My landscaper slash handyman can't wait to get an Apple watch so he can view all his texts (mostly from me) without having to pull his phone out.
Personally I think the Apple Watch will be a slow grind up. People just don't know that they need one yet
Mark >>
So what will he get because he doesn't want to bother looking at his watch? The silly reasons people have for buying stuff. But that's ok, we AAPL shareholders need more customers like him. The new fad will be sitting at the bar geeking at your watch instead of scrolling your phone.
<< <i>MJ, is Apple going to provide financing for the watch in the same way Att and Verizon did for the phones? $400 +tax in one shot is a bit different than $25 a month for 2 years hidden within your cell phone service contract.
I think this product is also very limited in the professions that will buy it. Right now plumbers, mechanics, carpenters, landscapers, assembly line workers, ect all use iPhones. These "labor intensive" professions will not buy an iwatch. Also I cannot see many women wearing this product, no matter how much bling they put on the band.
I think the market is very limited for such a product, especially if folks realized it doesnt cost $25/month. I think the market for the watch is no more than 10% of that of the phone and probably much less when factored globally. >>
As you know I work in the fashion industry. All the young female fashionista's in my office aren't debating if they are getting an Apple Watch. They are debating on which one they will get. None of them currently wear a watch. My landscaper slash handyman can't wait to get an Apple watch so he can view all his texts (mostly from me) without having to pull his phone out.
Personally I think the Apple Watch will be a slow grind up. People just don't know that they need one yet
Mare wou >>
Personally, I would probably think twice about dating a woman who wore an iwatch. Her constant looking at it would leave me wondering when the date would hurry up and be over. I just dont have enough good material to compete. LOL
Honestly, I cant see any labor folk buying this. When I wore a fancy Swiss watch in the office I was always banging it against something. A computer on my wrist wouldnt last a week.
I understand your longer term view but the pricing right now is way of of whack. They sell a few million right away to the Applonians, then it becomes a show me product. Best thing that happens is its a dud and discourages competitors.
I asked a small sampling of over 55 group and only one was considering it. That was to use it to check blood pressure and pulse. That kind of wearable would be important to some but wouldn't have to be a $400 watch. All the others including a couple who have both an iPhone & iPad would not buy the watch for the same reasons brought up in this thread.
The most money I made are on coins I haven't sold.
......... Coke’s North American vending fleet – which dispenses an average of 15 beverages per second – will include 100,000 Apple Pay-enabled machines by the end of 2015. That, according to Tom Daly, Coke's global group director for mobile, makes Coca-Cola one of the largest retail acceptors of Apple Pay.
The Apple Pay mobile payment platform, introduced in October, allows iPhone users to pay for products easily and securely with their iPhone 6, iPhone 6 Plus or connected Apple Watch (which begin shipping on April 24) at enabled payment terminals.
<< <i>MJ, is Apple going to provide financing for the watch in the same way Att and Verizon did for the phones? $400 +tax in one shot is a bit different than $25 a month for 2 years hidden within your cell phone service contract.
I think this product is also very limited in the professions that will buy it. Right now plumbers, mechanics, carpenters, landscapers, assembly line workers, ect all use iPhones. These "labor intensive" professions will not buy an iwatch. Also I cannot see many women wearing this product, no matter how much bling they put on the band.
I think the market is very limited for such a product, especially if folks realized it doesnt cost $25/month. I think the market for the watch is no more than 10% of that of the phone and probably much less when factored globally. >>
As you know I work in the fashion industry. All the young female fashionista's in my office aren't debating if they are getting an Apple Watch. They are debating on which one they will get. None of them currently wear a watch. My landscaper slash handyman can't wait to get an Apple watch so he can view all his texts (mostly from me) without having to pull his phone out.
Personally I think the Apple Watch will be a slow grind up. People just don't know that they need one yet
Mark >>
So what will he get because he doesn't want to bother looking at his watch? The silly reasons people have for buying stuff. But that's ok, we AAPL shareholders need more customers like him. The new fad will be sitting at the bar geeking at your watch instead of scrolling your phone. >>
Wearables are the next big thing. The watch is the tip of the iceberg. Not having to pull your phone out and freeing up your hands has merit in a lot of situations.The first generation may or may not be great. It's rounds 2 through 4 where traction and money is made.
Point of reference this is not called the I Watch. It's the Apple Watch. Get with the program.
Mark
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<< <i>MJ, is Apple going to provide financing for the watch in the same way Att and Verizon did for the phones? $400 +tax in one shot is a bit different than $25 a month for 2 years hidden within your cell phone service contract.
I think this product is also very limited in the professions that will buy it. Right now plumbers, mechanics, carpenters, landscapers, assembly line workers, ect all use iPhones. These "labor intensive" professions will not buy an iwatch. Also I cannot see many women wearing this product, no matter how much bling they put on the band.
I think the market is very limited for such a product, especially if folks realized it doesnt cost $25/month. I think the market for the watch is no more than 10% of that of the phone and probably much less when factored globally. >>
As you know I work in the fashion industry. All the young female fashionista's in my office aren't debating if they are getting an Apple Watch. They are debating on which one they will get. None of them currently wear a watch. My landscaper slash handyman can't wait to get an Apple watch so he can view all his texts (mostly from me) without having to pull his phone out.
Personally I think the Apple Watch will be a slow grind up. People just don't know that they need one yet
Mare wou >>
Personally, I would probably think twice about dating a woman who wore an iwatch. Her constant looking at it would leave me wondering when the date would hurry up and be over. I just dont have enough good material to compete. LOL
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Your wife would agree.
Mark
Walker Proof Digital Album Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
<< <i>MJ, is Apple going to provide financing for the watch in the same way Att and Verizon did for the phones? $400 +tax in one shot is a bit different than $25 a month for 2 years hidden within your cell phone service contract.
I think this product is also very limited in the professions that will buy it. Right now plumbers, mechanics, carpenters, landscapers, assembly line workers, ect all use iPhones. These "labor intensive" professions will not buy an iwatch. Also I cannot see many women wearing this product, no matter how much bling they put on the band.
I think the market is very limited for such a product, especially if folks realized it doesnt cost $25/month. I think the market for the watch is no more than 10% of that of the phone and probably much less when factored globally. >>
As you know I work in the fashion industry. All the young female fashionista's in my office aren't debating if they are getting an Apple Watch. They are debating on which one they will get. None of them currently wear a watch. My landscaper slash handyman can't wait to get an Apple watch so he can view all his texts (mostly from me) without having to pull his phone out.
Personally I think the Apple Watch will be a slow grind up. People just don't know that they need one yet
Mare wou >>
Personally, I would probably think twice about dating a woman who wore an iwatch. Her constant looking at it would leave me wondering when the date would hurry up and be over. I just dont have enough good material to compete. LOL
<< <i>I asked a small sampling of over 55 group and only one was considering it. That was to use it to check blood pressure and pulse. That kind of wearable would be important to some but wouldn't have to be a $400 watch. All the others including a couple who have both an iPhone & iPad would not buy the watch for the same reasons brought up in this thread. >>
Samples such as this are dependent upon demographics. Ask random people in the SF Bay area, LA, NYC and the likes and you will find a higher rate of interested buyers.
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<< <i>MJ, is Apple going to provide financing for the watch in the same way Att and Verizon did for the phones? $400 +tax in one shot is a bit different than $25 a month for 2 years hidden within your cell phone service contract.
I think this product is also very limited in the professions that will buy it. Right now plumbers, mechanics, carpenters, landscapers, assembly line workers, ect all use iPhones. These "labor intensive" professions will not buy an iwatch. Also I cannot see many women wearing this product, no matter how much bling they put on the band.
I think the market is very limited for such a product, especially if folks realized it doesnt cost $25/month. I think the market for the watch is no more than 10% of that of the phone and probably much less when factored globally. >>
As you know I work in the fashion industry. All the young female fashionista's in my office aren't debating if they are getting an Apple Watch. They are debating on which one they will get. None of them currently wear a watch. My landscaper slash handyman can't wait to get an Apple watch so he can view all his texts (mostly from me) without having to pull his phone out.
Personally I think the Apple Watch will be a slow grind up. People just don't know that they need one yet
Mark >>
So what will he get because he doesn't want to bother looking at his watch? The silly reasons people have for buying stuff. But that's ok, we AAPL shareholders need more customers like him. The new fad will be sitting at the bar geeking at your watch instead of scrolling your phone. >>
Wearables are the next big thing. The watch is the tip of the iceberg. Not having to pull your phone out and freeing up your hands has merit in a lot of situations.The first generation may or may not be great. It's rounds 2 through 4 where traction and money is made.
Point of reference this is not called the I Watch. It's the Apple Watch. Get with the program.
Mark >>
ahhhhhhhhhhhh, the A watch. What else do people want to wear?
<< <i>Sold out within 3 hours with delivery date pushed out for later orders. >>
Because they only made, figuratively, about 10 of them. Apple is an advertising genius more than a technology genius.
Yup, you've been warned. Your $400 applewatch will be worth 39.99 in 2 years.
Buy a roll of ASE instead. You've been advised. >>
Just like with the I Phone people will be replacing them every two years when technology advances. The old ones will have a market and it won't be $39.99. I'm betting against you with my wallet. This forum has always inspired me to add to my Apple position. I test here.
Mark
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<< <i>That's because us old guys with fat fingers can barely see and operate the screens on our phones. Haha >>
Better fat fingers on a phone then fat fingers on a trade
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how does 20 million Apple watches shipped in 2015 sound? How about 2 million in pre sells alone? Sounds about right
Mark
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Looking forward to hearing first-hand reports about this thing. I personally do not have a use until it's essentially priced as a disposable, as I am hard on things like rings, watches, sunglasses and will break it pretty fast
<< <i>how does 20 million Apple watches shipped in 2015 sound? How about 2 million in pre sells alone? Sounds about right
Mark >>
The Apple cult is large.
The market for this item is substantially smaller than for an iPad, an iPhone, or even an iPod.
I agree with your assertion that wearables will/could become a big market, but only a small percentage of iPhone users have any need or use of an iWatch. 20 million watches sold is only 5% of Apples revenues. Granted 5% of a lot is a lot, but in reality, its just a blip to Apple. If the watch has problems, the negative effect to Apple will be much greater than any potential benefit. A 10% drop in the stock would represent 7X more money lost to investors than an entire year of watch sales.
Bloomberg news this morning had a head line that the Apple gold watch was made up of $10K to $17K in materials. Apple's comment was they did just not use "regular" gold because that wouldn't have been good enough for them. So what could they have done that was much better than 22K or 24K gold? I'm all ears. 24K gold not "good enough"? Sprinkle in some platinum or rare earths?
And whatever "special" additives they put into the gold, how do you extract that when the day comes when the watch is worth scrap? Maybe they're going to work a deal with the US Treasury and melt down the 1933 $20's. Each gold watch will get a little piece of a $2 MILL coin.
This is not a new concept, fabrication and presentation. The "materials" in a $100 steak or sushi dinner in a nice restaurant are not "worth" anywhere near that number in their natural form.
And as far as "recovery", they're worth even less the day after the meal.
The Bloomberg snippet said "materials" and not "presentation" or labor. I read it as intrinsic materials.
Apple is careful to point out that the 18k gold used is a proprietary alloy that's between two and four times harder than typical gold. According to a patent filed last June, this special gold is created by impregnating a gold matrix with ceramic particles for added toughness. In the same patent, Apple also alludes to future cases made of silver and platinum, so this might not be the only Apple Watch Edition we see.
Heck, it's only 18K sprinkled with some stuff to make it harder. Doesn't sound all that much different than a $20 Lib with 90% gold alloyed with 10% copper for wear resistance and strength. When it's time to scrap it, those ceramic particles won't be worth much. Let's hope the watch collectors of the future keep a bid on those well above the price of gold.
<< <i>The Bloomberg snippet said "materials" and not "presentation" or labor. I read it as intrinsic materials.
Apple is careful to point out that the 18k gold used is a proprietary alloy that's between two and four times harder than typical gold. According to a patent filed last June, this special gold is created by impregnating a gold matrix with ceramic particles for added toughness. In the same patent, Apple also alludes to future cases made of silver and platinum, so this might not be the only Apple Watch Edition we see.
Heck, it's only 18K sprinkled with some stuff to make it harder. Doesn't sound all that much different than a $20 Lib with 90% gold alloyed with 10% copper for wear resistance and strength. When it's time to scrap it, those ceramic particles won't be worth much. Let's hope the watch collectors of the future keep a bid on those well above the price of gold. >>
I linked to the patent in this thread like 3 months ago , scroll up 8 pages I think Derry did too. Technically it's 75% gold by mass the other 25% is a mixture of powdered rhino horn and panda testicles .
For a limited time only each of these special edition golden iWatches contain a tiny sliver of authentic Steve Jobs toenail clippings .
Order today and impress your friends , when they hear how much you paid they will all agree you got Jobbed.
<< <i>how does 20 million Apple watches shipped in 2015 sound? How about 2 million in pre sells alone? Sounds about right
Mark >>
The Apple cult is large.
The market for this item is substantially smaller than for an iPad, an iPhone, or even an iPod.
I agree with your assertion that wearables will/could become a big market, but only a small percentage of iPhone users have any need or use of an iWatch. 20 million watches sold is only 5% of Apples revenues. Granted 5% of a lot is a lot, but in reality, its just a blip to Apple. If the watch has problems, the negative effect to Apple will be much greater than any potential benefit. A 10% drop in the stock would represent 7X more money lost to investors than an entire year of watch sales. >>
Actually it will probably be closer to 7 to 8 % of sales which is huge. I think international sales will push this even higher. Don't discount the fact that you need an I Phone to run the I Watch. You will have people switching out old I Phones and people buying their first I Phone ever so they can buy the watch. A twofer......mark
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<< <i>Don't discount the fact that you need an I Phone to run the I Watch
I did not know this. Makes it even less desirable. Not gonna capture any android users. Feeling more confident on a bust. >>
You are already wrong .
But I'm sure you will somehow wiggle out of this
I need to give you an Apple Ecosystem tutorial------ stat.
Gonna sell a lot more I Phones
Mark
Walker Proof Digital Album Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
<< <i>If it's so easy, you should go ahead and do it first, and might as well do it better than Apple does
Heck, it's only 18K sprinkled with some stuff to make it harder.
Do you suppose that's what the referenced patents say about the process ? >>
It is very funny when you're payng $5K extra on that watch for that "process." Is "hard" gold worth a 50% premium to you? I know when it comes time for resale no one is going to pay for the ceramic micro-structure. Just because it's hard to do doesn't mean it's worth anything more. Mining gold from seawater or an asteriod is hard to to do to.....you still get the same price for that gold when it comes time to sell it.
The 10% copper in classic 22k gold coins makes them harder. Does that double the melt price vs. say a 24k piece of "soft" bullion?
Maybe there's an AP on this watch to simulate the Hoover dam so we can get more water to California through "clouds." Maybe those clouds can be sprinkled with ceramic crystals?
Rembrandts are unique works of art whose desirability is proven over centuries. Golden IWatch is brand new, no track record, only some gold and high tech components. They are built ALL the same....generic if you will. If the trend in computer technology continues, the IWatch will go the way of the camcorder. Hoover dam is unique too serving an important function for society that can not be replaced by anything else currently in service. Ridiculous to compare Hoover Dam or Rembrandts to this watch. Time to take off the ceramic tin foil hat....lol. Microprocessors are relatively cheap and ubiquitous as well. The only thing of lasting value in the IWatch is the gold.
Fwiw I pay $15-$17 for my Arizona jeans on sale, haven't bought any luggage ever costing more than $30/piece, and never bought a new car.
But I understand why people would pay a lot of money for all those items. I don't get the 18K APPLE gold watch with ceramic technology. At some point in time those watches will fall under the Patriot Act 2 money laundering statutes (items receiving >50% of their value from intrinsic bullion value). You won't have to worry about your jeans, luggage, or car though.
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Every Apple thread has been met with resistance. Apple is a machine and is the smartest person in the room. Ride the wave until it isn't. Even if the watch is a bust Apple is a cash cow. The Apple watch is gravy. Moo
Mark
Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
<< <i>80% of kids 20 and under have never worn a watch of any kind. This is about to change in a meaningful way with the non gold Apple watch. The next couple of generations of Apple watches will sort out the battery life ( now estimated at 18 hours). Wearables in general will be the next big thing. I swear I've never seen such a collective group of old lemonade sipping porch sitting old thinking farts in my life..........all gathered in one location boot
Every Apple thread has been met with resistance. Apple is a machine and is the smartest person in the room. Ride the wave until it isn't. Even if the watch is a bust Apple is a cash cow. The Apple watch is gravy. Moo
Mark >>
And 18K gold is .750 purity.
<< <i>80% of kids 20 and under have never worn a watch of any kind. This is about to change in a meaningful way with the non gold Apple watch. The next couple of generations of Apple watches will sort out the battery life ( now estimated at 18 hours). Wearables in general will be the next big thing. I swear I've never seen such a collective group of old lemonade sipping porch sitting old thinking farts in my life..........all gathered in one location boot
Every Apple thread has been met with resistance. Apple is a machine and is the smartest person in the room. Ride the wave until it isn't. Even if the watch is a bust Apple is a cash cow. The Apple watch is gravy. Moo
Mark >>
HA! We're crotchety for sure up in here.
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The last time I checked a day had 24 hours in it.
I need apple to sell me a watch that won't last a full day without a charge
Better buy a few extra proprietary iChargers for it
<< <i>[q. ( now estimated at 18 hours)
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The last time I checked a day had 24 hours in it.
I need apple to sell me a watch that won't last a full day without a charge
Better buy a few extra proprietary iChargers for it
And your a zombie too? Charge it when you go to sleep just like your phone. Please tell me you have a phone
If it's a problem I'm 100% sure Apple will work it out with an added cost. At least I hope so
M
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Oddly enough I do have a sundial . unlike the iWatch it never needs to be charged as it is fully solar powered.
Actually right now its buried under the snow pack so it's not working at all , while it might be green energy , solar has a few disadvantages that are real showstoppers
<< <i>Oddly enough I do have a sundial . unlike the iWatch it never needs to be charged as it is fully solar powered.
Actually right now its buried under the snow pack so it's not working at all , while it might be green energy , solar has a few disadvantages that are real showstoppers >>
Bronco....I love it! Maybe I will get a sundial.....always liked them.
I also enjoy all the great stuff you post here.....but....different strokes for different folks and we all should celebrate our differences and try not to be critical of others.
I grew up in snow country. However, I was fortunate enough(my feeling) to leave it long ago.
You are under snow pack...tomorrow I will be tending to my foot high tomato plants in temps in the low 80s.
I also probably will buy an entry level Apple Watch when released.
I try not to repeatedly redicule what others like, buy, eat, use or how they live.
Life is short. I like my toys and respect what others play with.
It is all personal choice and I can live with that. My toys are no better or worse than yours.
Enough already....we all know you don't like modern technology....especially Apple, a great company in many many peoples minds.
You have made that point here quite often. I can live with that but it does get repetitive.
Enjoy.
Best!
I think this product is also very limited in the professions that will buy it. Right now plumbers, mechanics, carpenters, landscapers, assembly line workers, ect all use iPhones. These "labor intensive" professions will not buy an iwatch. Also I cannot see many women wearing this product, no matter how much bling they put on the band.
I think the market is very limited for such a product, especially if folks realized it doesnt cost $25/month. I think the market for the watch is no more than 10% of that of the phone and probably much less when factored globally.
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<< <i>MJ, is Apple going to provide financing for the watch in the same way Att and Verizon did for the phones? $400 +tax in one shot is a bit different than $25 a month for 2 years hidden within your cell phone service contract.
I think this product is also very limited in the professions that will buy it. Right now plumbers, mechanics, carpenters, landscapers, assembly line workers, ect all use iPhones. These "labor intensive" professions will not buy an iwatch. Also I cannot see many women wearing this product, no matter how much bling they put on the band.
I think the market is very limited for such a product, especially if folks realized it doesnt cost $25/month. I think the market for the watch is no more than 10% of that of the phone and probably much less when factored globally. >>
As you know I work in the fashion industry. All the young female fashionista's in my office aren't debating if they are getting an Apple Watch. They are debating on which one they will get. None of them currently wear a watch. My landscaper slash handyman can't wait to get an Apple watch so he can view all his texts (mostly from me) without having to pull his phone out.
Personally I think the Apple Watch will be a slow grind up. People just don't know that they need one yet
Mark
Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
Mark
Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
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<< <i>MJ, is Apple going to provide financing for the watch in the same way Att and Verizon did for the phones? $400 +tax in one shot is a bit different than $25 a month for 2 years hidden within your cell phone service contract.
I think this product is also very limited in the professions that will buy it. Right now plumbers, mechanics, carpenters, landscapers, assembly line workers, ect all use iPhones. These "labor intensive" professions will not buy an iwatch. Also I cannot see many women wearing this product, no matter how much bling they put on the band.
I think the market is very limited for such a product, especially if folks realized it doesnt cost $25/month. I think the market for the watch is no more than 10% of that of the phone and probably much less when factored globally. >>
As you know I work in the fashion industry. All the young female fashionista's in my office aren't debating if they are getting an Apple Watch. They are debating on which one they will get. None of them currently wear a watch. My landscaper slash handyman can't wait to get an Apple watch so he can view all his texts (mostly from me) without having to pull his phone out.
Personally I think the Apple Watch will be a slow grind up. People just don't know that they need one yet
Mark >>
So what will he get because he doesn't want to bother looking at his watch? The silly reasons people have for buying stuff. But that's ok, we AAPL shareholders need more customers like him. The new fad will be sitting at the bar geeking at your watch instead of scrolling your phone.
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<< <i>MJ, is Apple going to provide financing for the watch in the same way Att and Verizon did for the phones? $400 +tax in one shot is a bit different than $25 a month for 2 years hidden within your cell phone service contract.
I think this product is also very limited in the professions that will buy it. Right now plumbers, mechanics, carpenters, landscapers, assembly line workers, ect all use iPhones. These "labor intensive" professions will not buy an iwatch. Also I cannot see many women wearing this product, no matter how much bling they put on the band.
I think the market is very limited for such a product, especially if folks realized it doesnt cost $25/month. I think the market for the watch is no more than 10% of that of the phone and probably much less when factored globally. >>
As you know I work in the fashion industry. All the young female fashionista's in my office aren't debating if they are getting an Apple Watch. They are debating on which one they will get. None of them currently wear a watch. My landscaper slash handyman can't wait to get an Apple watch so he can view all his texts (mostly from me) without having to pull his phone out.
Personally I think the Apple Watch will be a slow grind up. People just don't know that they need one yet
Mare wou >>
Personally, I would probably think twice about dating a woman who wore an iwatch. Her constant looking at it would leave me wondering when the date would hurry up and be over. I just dont have enough good material to compete. LOL
Honestly, I cant see any labor folk buying this. When I wore a fancy Swiss watch in the office I was always banging it against something. A computer on my wrist wouldnt last a week.
I understand your longer term view but the pricing right now is way of of whack. They sell a few million right away to the Applonians, then it becomes a show me product. Best thing that happens is its a dud and discourages competitors.
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Coke vendiing machines to use apple pay
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Coke’s North American vending fleet – which dispenses an average of 15 beverages per second – will include 100,000 Apple Pay-enabled machines by the end of 2015. That, according to Tom Daly, Coke's global group director for mobile, makes Coca-Cola one of the largest retail acceptors of Apple Pay.
The Apple Pay mobile payment platform, introduced in October, allows iPhone users to pay for products easily and securely with their iPhone 6, iPhone 6 Plus or connected Apple Watch (which begin shipping on April 24) at enabled payment terminals.
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<< <i>MJ, is Apple going to provide financing for the watch in the same way Att and Verizon did for the phones? $400 +tax in one shot is a bit different than $25 a month for 2 years hidden within your cell phone service contract.
I think this product is also very limited in the professions that will buy it. Right now plumbers, mechanics, carpenters, landscapers, assembly line workers, ect all use iPhones. These "labor intensive" professions will not buy an iwatch. Also I cannot see many women wearing this product, no matter how much bling they put on the band.
I think the market is very limited for such a product, especially if folks realized it doesnt cost $25/month. I think the market for the watch is no more than 10% of that of the phone and probably much less when factored globally. >>
As you know I work in the fashion industry. All the young female fashionista's in my office aren't debating if they are getting an Apple Watch. They are debating on which one they will get. None of them currently wear a watch. My landscaper slash handyman can't wait to get an Apple watch so he can view all his texts (mostly from me) without having to pull his phone out.
Personally I think the Apple Watch will be a slow grind up. People just don't know that they need one yet
Mark >>
So what will he get because he doesn't want to bother looking at his watch? The silly reasons people have for buying stuff. But that's ok, we AAPL shareholders need more customers like him. The new fad will be sitting at the bar geeking at your watch instead of scrolling your phone. >>
Wearables are the next big thing. The watch is the tip of the iceberg. Not having to pull your phone out and freeing up your hands has merit in a lot of situations.The first generation may or may not be great. It's rounds 2 through 4 where traction and money is made.
Point of reference this is not called the I Watch. It's the Apple Watch. Get with the program.
Mark
Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
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<< <i>MJ, is Apple going to provide financing for the watch in the same way Att and Verizon did for the phones? $400 +tax in one shot is a bit different than $25 a month for 2 years hidden within your cell phone service contract.
I think this product is also very limited in the professions that will buy it. Right now plumbers, mechanics, carpenters, landscapers, assembly line workers, ect all use iPhones. These "labor intensive" professions will not buy an iwatch. Also I cannot see many women wearing this product, no matter how much bling they put on the band.
I think the market is very limited for such a product, especially if folks realized it doesnt cost $25/month. I think the market for the watch is no more than 10% of that of the phone and probably much less when factored globally. >>
As you know I work in the fashion industry. All the young female fashionista's in my office aren't debating if they are getting an Apple Watch. They are debating on which one they will get. None of them currently wear a watch. My landscaper slash handyman can't wait to get an Apple watch so he can view all his texts (mostly from me) without having to pull his phone out.
Personally I think the Apple Watch will be a slow grind up. People just don't know that they need one yet
Mare wou >>
Personally, I would probably think twice about dating a woman who wore an iwatch. Her constant looking at it would leave me wondering when the date would hurry up and be over. I just dont have enough good material to compete. LOL
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Your wife would agree.
Mark
Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
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<< <i>MJ, is Apple going to provide financing for the watch in the same way Att and Verizon did for the phones? $400 +tax in one shot is a bit different than $25 a month for 2 years hidden within your cell phone service contract.
I think this product is also very limited in the professions that will buy it. Right now plumbers, mechanics, carpenters, landscapers, assembly line workers, ect all use iPhones. These "labor intensive" professions will not buy an iwatch. Also I cannot see many women wearing this product, no matter how much bling they put on the band.
I think the market is very limited for such a product, especially if folks realized it doesnt cost $25/month. I think the market for the watch is no more than 10% of that of the phone and probably much less when factored globally. >>
As you know I work in the fashion industry. All the young female fashionista's in my office aren't debating if they are getting an Apple Watch. They are debating on which one they will get. None of them currently wear a watch. My landscaper slash handyman can't wait to get an Apple watch so he can view all his texts (mostly from me) without having to pull his phone out.
Personally I think the Apple Watch will be a slow grind up. People just don't know that they need one yet
Mare wou >>
Personally, I would probably think twice about dating a woman who wore an iwatch. Her constant looking at it would leave me wondering when the date would hurry up and be over. I just dont have enough good material to compete. LOL
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Your wife would agree.
Mark >>
You know better than that.
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<< <i>I asked a small sampling of over 55 group and only one was considering it. That was to use it to check blood pressure and pulse. That kind of wearable would be important to some but wouldn't have to be a $400 watch. All the others including a couple who have both an iPhone & iPad would not buy the watch for the same reasons brought up in this thread. >>
Samples such as this are dependent upon demographics.
Ask random people in the SF Bay area, LA, NYC and the likes and you will find a higher rate of interested buyers.
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<< <i>MJ, is Apple going to provide financing for the watch in the same way Att and Verizon did for the phones? $400 +tax in one shot is a bit different than $25 a month for 2 years hidden within your cell phone service contract.
I think this product is also very limited in the professions that will buy it. Right now plumbers, mechanics, carpenters, landscapers, assembly line workers, ect all use iPhones. These "labor intensive" professions will not buy an iwatch. Also I cannot see many women wearing this product, no matter how much bling they put on the band.
I think the market is very limited for such a product, especially if folks realized it doesnt cost $25/month. I think the market for the watch is no more than 10% of that of the phone and probably much less when factored globally. >>
As you know I work in the fashion industry. All the young female fashionista's in my office aren't debating if they are getting an Apple Watch. They are debating on which one they will get. None of them currently wear a watch. My landscaper slash handyman can't wait to get an Apple watch so he can view all his texts (mostly from me) without having to pull his phone out.
Personally I think the Apple Watch will be a slow grind up. People just don't know that they need one yet
Mark >>
So what will he get because he doesn't want to bother looking at his watch? The silly reasons people have for buying stuff. But that's ok, we AAPL shareholders need more customers like him. The new fad will be sitting at the bar geeking at your watch instead of scrolling your phone. >>
Wearables are the next big thing. The watch is the tip of the iceberg. Not having to pull your phone out and freeing up your hands has merit in a lot of situations.The first generation may or may not be great. It's rounds 2 through 4 where traction and money is made.
Point of reference this is not called the I Watch. It's the Apple Watch. Get with the program.
Mark >>
ahhhhhhhhhhhh, the A watch.
IMO
not the gold one
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Box of 20
<< <i>Gonna bust. Will be a $39.99 gadget. Would be a score for a minor player, but will be considered a failure for Apple. >>
I've been warned.
<< <i>Sold out within 3 hours with delivery date pushed out for later orders.
Because they only made, figuratively, about 10 of them. Apple is an advertising genius more than a technology genius.
Yup, you've been warned. Your $400 applewatch will be worth 39.99 in 2 years.
Buy a roll of ASE instead. You've been advised.
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<< <i>Sold out within 3 hours with delivery date pushed out for later orders.
Because they only made, figuratively, about 10 of them. Apple is an advertising genius more than a technology genius.
Yup, you've been warned. Your $400 applewatch will be worth 39.99 in 2 years.
Buy a roll of ASE instead. You've been advised.
Just like with the I Phone people will be replacing them every two years when technology advances. The old ones will have a market and it won't be $39.99. I'm betting against you with my wallet. This forum has always inspired me to add to my Apple position. I test here.
Mark
Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
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<< <i>That's because us old guys with fat fingers can barely see and operate the screens on our phones. Haha >>
Better fat fingers on a phone then fat fingers on a trade
Mark
Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
Mark
Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
Liberty: Parent of Science & Industry
<< <i>how does 20 million Apple watches shipped in 2015 sound? How about 2 million in pre sells alone? Sounds about right
Mark >>
The Apple cult is large.
The market for this item is substantially smaller than for an iPad, an iPhone, or even an iPod.
I agree with your assertion that wearables will/could become a big market, but only a small percentage of iPhone users have any need or use of an iWatch. 20 million watches sold is only 5% of Apples revenues. Granted 5% of a lot is a lot, but in reality, its just a blip to Apple. If the watch has problems, the negative effect to Apple will be much greater than any potential benefit. A 10% drop in the stock would represent 7X more money lost to investors than an entire year of watch sales.
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And whatever "special" additives they put into the gold, how do you extract that when the day comes when the watch is worth scrap? Maybe they're going to work a deal with the US Treasury and melt down the 1933 $20's. Each gold watch will get a little piece of a $2 MILL coin.
In other words, the gold parts of this thing are not coin or bar shaped
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And as far as "recovery", they're worth even less the day after the meal.
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Apple is careful to point out that the 18k gold used is a proprietary alloy that's between two and four times harder than typical gold. According to a patent filed last June, this special gold is created by impregnating a gold matrix with ceramic particles for added toughness. In the same patent, Apple also alludes to future cases made of silver and platinum, so this might not be the only Apple Watch Edition we see.
Heck, it's only 18K sprinkled with some stuff to make it harder. Doesn't sound all that much different than a $20 Lib with 90% gold alloyed with 10% copper for wear resistance and strength. When it's time to scrap it, those ceramic particles won't be worth much. Let's hope the watch collectors of the future keep a bid on those well above the price of gold.
Heck, it's only 18K sprinkled with some stuff to make it harder.
Do you suppose that's what the referenced patents say about the process ?
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"a microprocessor?? Heck, it's only some silicon sprinkled on a wafer!"
"a Rembrandt? Heck, it's only some oil paint sprinked on a canvas!"
"Hoover Dam? Heck, that's just some concrete sprinkled into the river!"
You can't make this stuff up. The world is finally getting it's long-awaited Dick Tracy watch and we yawn and heckle.
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<< <i>The Bloomberg snippet said "materials" and not "presentation" or labor. I read it as intrinsic materials.
Apple is careful to point out that the 18k gold used is a proprietary alloy that's between two and four times harder than typical gold. According to a patent filed last June, this special gold is created by impregnating a gold matrix with ceramic particles for added toughness. In the same patent, Apple also alludes to future cases made of silver and platinum, so this might not be the only Apple Watch Edition we see.
Heck, it's only 18K sprinkled with some stuff to make it harder. Doesn't sound all that much different than a $20 Lib with 90% gold alloyed with 10% copper for wear resistance and strength. When it's time to scrap it, those ceramic particles won't be worth much. Let's hope the watch collectors of the future keep a bid on those well above the price of gold. >>
I linked to the patent in this thread like 3 months ago , scroll up 8 pages
For a limited time only each of these special edition golden iWatches contain a tiny sliver of authentic Steve Jobs toenail clippings .
Order today and impress your friends , when they hear how much you paid they will all agree you got Jobbed.
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<< <i>how does 20 million Apple watches shipped in 2015 sound? How about 2 million in pre sells alone? Sounds about right
Mark >>
The Apple cult is large.
The market for this item is substantially smaller than for an iPad, an iPhone, or even an iPod.
I agree with your assertion that wearables will/could become a big market, but only a small percentage of iPhone users have any need or use of an iWatch. 20 million watches sold is only 5% of Apples revenues. Granted 5% of a lot is a lot, but in reality, its just a blip to Apple. If the watch has problems, the negative effect to Apple will be much greater than any potential benefit. A 10% drop in the stock would represent 7X more money lost to investors than an entire year of watch sales. >>
Actually it will probably be closer to 7 to 8 % of sales which is huge. I think international sales will push this even higher. Don't discount the fact that you need an I Phone to run the I Watch. You will have people switching out old I Phones and people buying their first I Phone ever so they can buy the watch. A twofer......mark
Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
I did not know this. Makes it even less desirable. Not gonna capture any android users. Feeling more confident on a bust.
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<< <i>Don't discount the fact that you need an I Phone to run the I Watch
I did not know this. Makes it even less desirable. Not gonna capture any android users. Feeling more confident on a bust. >>
You are already wrong .
But I'm sure you will somehow wiggle out of this
I need to give you an Apple Ecosystem tutorial------ stat.
Gonna sell a lot more I Phones
Mark
Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
<< <i>If it's so easy, you should go ahead and do it first, and might as well do it better than Apple does
Heck, it's only 18K sprinkled with some stuff to make it harder.
Do you suppose that's what the referenced patents say about the process ?
It is very funny when you're payng $5K extra on that watch for that "process." Is "hard" gold worth a 50% premium to you? I know when it comes time for resale no one is going to pay for the ceramic micro-structure.
Just because it's hard to do doesn't mean it's worth anything more. Mining gold from seawater or an asteriod is hard to to do to.....you still get the same price for that gold when it comes time to sell it.
The 10% copper in classic 22k gold coins makes them harder. Does that double the melt price vs. say a 24k piece of "soft" bullion?
Maybe there's an AP on this watch to simulate the Hoover dam so we can get more water to California through "clouds." Maybe those clouds can be sprinkled with ceramic crystals?
Rembrandts are unique works of art whose desirability is proven over centuries. Golden IWatch is brand new, no track record, only some gold and high tech components. They are built ALL the same....generic if you will. If the trend in computer technology continues, the IWatch will go the way of the camcorder. Hoover dam is unique too serving an important function for society that can not be replaced by anything else currently in service. Ridiculous to compare Hoover Dam or Rembrandts to this watch. Time to take off the ceramic tin foil hat....lol. Microprocessors are relatively cheap and ubiquitous as well. The only thing of lasting value in the IWatch is the gold.
Hell, no. Nor are $200 blue jeans, $1000+ luggage, or $50,000+ cars.
But people do buy them. A lot.
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But I understand why people would pay a lot of money for all those items. I don't get the 18K APPLE gold watch with ceramic technology. At some point in time those watches will fall under the Patriot Act 2 money laundering statutes (items receiving >50% of their value from intrinsic bullion value). You won't have to worry about your jeans, luggage, or car though.