My numismatic report for January, and Long Beach show report - what a month it was !
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I had about two year's worth of activity in the latter half of January (quite out of the ordinary), so here is my report. With a daughter due to start college in the fall, this will be my last major "fling" for quite a while.
It started on 17 January when I had a late morning appointment to view (and possibly purchase) some so-called dollars at a shop about an hour drive away, and later I planned to visit a small local one-day coin show. I would have over-slept, except the phone rang at 9:00 AM. It was my bank. Uh oh. But it was one of my teller friends telling me an older gentleman had come in wanting to deposit some silver dollars and old coins (including an "1879" half dollar) into this account. I said I could come over and look at them in 15 minutes. The teller said that would be fine. So I quickly got my stuff together and went over there. The man had a pie tin with some loose coins and a couple other coins in stapled 2x2 holders. Apparently he had previously handed the teller the whole tin, 2x2s and all, to deposit. As it turns out, there were 5 common circulated Morgan and Peace dollars, a 1987 Constitution silver dollar (still in the US Mint capsule), a couple Ike dollars, and miscellaneous "junk". The 2x2s contained a VG 1909 Lincoln cent (no S or VDB), and a VG 1924-[P] nickel. The "1879" half dollar turned out to actually be a vintage counterfeit 1876-S. I ended up giving him $100 total for his $9 face value in coins.
After the bank deal, I drove the 80 minutes to the coin shop for the main event of the day. They had acquired a significant collection of exonumia with some nice Colorado rarities. They had done the research and knew what the items were worth, but they quoted me some decent prices. So I ended up getting these:
Lesher Dollar Bumstead Type 2 (no scrolls) #633:
Lesher Dollar Bumstead Type 1 (with scrolls) #157. This one has some real "flash" to it when rotated in-hand. Most Lesher Dollars, even "slabbed" ones, have a cleaned, dipped-out look. Not this one. I looked it up in the Lesher Dollar Census and it shows that the only known appearance of this one was a 1943 Max B. Mehl sale ! :
An odd thing about this one above is that it lacks the small punch mark usually seen on the left side at the junction of the mountain, sky, and denticles.
Lesher Dollar imprinted "J.M. SLUSHER Cripple Creek Colo." #115:
But the best one of the day was this high-grade rare Denver Pedley-Ryan Dollar HK-828. These were minted in Denver by Sachs Lawlor and/or HH Tammen. They also produced the 1933 Montana and Colorado silver Century of Progress rounds, which also have the characteristic of very heavy die scratches. Reportedly, only 50 were originally struck. I know of only six HK-828 in existence:
If that wasn't enough, for my collection of Colorado medals, I also picked up this 1971 Womack Cripple Creek medal in 14K gold (50+ grams). The bronze and silver versions are generally available. But I have found no references whatsoever regarding a gold one. In fact, at the time this was issued, it was supposedly illegal for US Citizens to own gold bullion or gold coins minted after 1933. Original box included:
Later the same day at the show, I spotted this early-date error Winged Liberty Head dime:
I met up with a couple friends who are members of the Colorado Springs Coin Club. They presented my with an engraved award medal for previously giving a talk at their club meeting about vintage counterfeit (VAM) Morgan Dollars. It was neat to get back a piece that I had originally minted !:
In January, via the internet, I also was able to add an unprecedented number (for me) of five new Lucien Bazor medals to that collection I have going:
1931 European Commission bronze:
1932 Paris France Numismatic Society bronze jeton (39mm):
Union Bank of Paris silver jeton, 39mm. I especially like the cornucopia of coins being poured into the industry:
1932 200th anniversary of the birth of George Washington bronze:
1944 Liberation of Paris bronze. Note the sub-machinegun, pistol, tank, and Molotov C@cktail:
My favorite Bazor medal is this one (not my medal or picture, but I have a similar one that I acquired a couple years ago):
For quite a long time I had been looking for the US Mint "coin and die" sets that include a state quarter and a defaced die that was utilized to strike it. Specifically, I wanted a Rhode Island set (especially D mint), but also P mint and New York as well (because I originally designed the NY and RI state quarters for the US Mint). I finally found a seller on the internet that had four of each D-mint and a P-mint, so I bought them. All such dies that I have seen are TOTALLY defaced with no trace of any detail. I always wondered if the dies in these sets really did strike the coins in the sets. I'm a little more confident now that they did, because when I looked at the sets upon arrival, I found one D-mint New York die had some detail left (two stars, hand & torch, "N") !
Then came the Long Beach Coin Show.
A friend of mine was driving to the show from Colorado in his brand new P85D Tesla. So I hitched a ride. For those that don't know, the P85D is the latest and greatest Performance ("P") version with the dual-motor drive ("D"). I'm accustomed to driving my big V8 American "muscle" cars. So this was something a lot different. The thing can accelerate so hard that you seriously start to wonder if you are going to pass out. We had to stop about every 100 to 125 miles to recharge at Tesla "super charger" stations. The charging usually took about 15 to 20 minutes. Ironically, my muscle cars with big thirsty V8s have a longer range. But we didn't have to spend a cent for gasoline (or for charging) the entire trip.
My goal at the show was to submit to PCGS some of the items shown earlier in this post (along with a couple other things), and to ask Mr. David Hall some specific questions in person.
When I got my chance to sit down and ask those questions, I had four specific things to ask:
1) A few months ago PCGS announced that they will start certifying certain tokens and medals: PCGS Tokens and medals . That document specifically states that they will certify items that are listed in the US section of the Krause Unusual World Coins catalog (6th edition). I showed that catalog and the PCGS press release to Mr. Hall, along with two coins that are listed in it (in the US section, "Daniel Carr Prototype Dollars" subsection). Those two coins are my "1964-D" over-strike Peace Dollar and "1975" over-strike Eisenhower Dollar. I asked flat-out if PCGS would certify those two coins and should I submit them. His answer was inconclusive but basically "not yet". He took some written notes concerning this.
2) Again armed with printouts (this time the PCGS Price Guide and Population Report) for the 1861 gold $20 Clark Gruber, I asked why it was that this is the only coin in the entire PCGS listings that I could find that had prices listed for grades that did not exist in the population report. The Population Report shows no coins higher than AU-58. But the Price Guide listed prices for MS-60, 61, and 62. At one time, there were some "Die 2" strikes that were later determined to be modern "fantasies" (possibly attributed to Ford). I suggested that some of these were MS and that they were backed out of the Population Report. But they were never backed out of the Price Guide. Mr. Hall took some notes on that as well. UPDATE: I just checked the Price Guide and there are now no prices listed above AU-58. Hooray, it worked finally ! Thank you Mr. Hall.
3) I have a vested interest in the coin from #2. I posted about it a year and a half ago: June 2013 Long Beach Show Report . I still felt strongly that my XF-45 graded coin was really a premium-quality AU-50. I brought that coin with me (still in the XF-45 Secure Plus holder) and showed it to Mr. Hall. I told him that the coin was the one pictured in the PCGS CoinFacts as the XF-45 Clark Gruber 1861 $20. I asked Mr. Hall if this coin was permanently locked into the XF-45 grade due to the Secure Plus and the imaging of it as an XF-45 in CoinFacts. I also asked if I would be wasting my money by submitting it for the "Reconsideration Service". He said that if I had only submitted it the one time, I might try again. I asked again about the CoinFacts picture and he said that if the grade changed, the grade assigned to the CoinFacts picture would also change. So I submitted the coin for "reconsideration" (end-of-show turnaround). Here it is now:
And, the PCGS CoinFacts for it was updated to AU-50 as well ! (10142 1861 $20 Calrk Gruber).
4) Lastly, I showed the following coin (in the holder) to Mr. Hall. I had recently acquired this coin already in the current holder. When I saw it on eBay, the price was right (for a normal coin), and I clicked the "Buy it Now" button as fast as I possibly could. He was puzzled and I pointed out what was "unusual" about it. After explaining it, he took some more notes. If you are really on-the-ball with Morgan Dollars, you might spot what I am talking about. If not, see the link below:
NGC issued a report about this particular coin recently: 1893-O Morgan Dollar VAM-6
I have found three of these so far. But after recently studying one of them (shown below), I noticed it was different. So I have sent it to Leroy Van Allen himself. It will likely be assigned a new VAM number (presumably "VAM-7"). More info about it is posted here: Another new 1893-O VAM found .
So after concluding my main business at the show, I wandered the bourse looking for nothing in particular. Even so, I found more items that I acquired:
For my collection of Colorado medals, I bought this rare 1882 Colorado Industrial Association medal (silver, large 53mm). I like the scene which appears to possibly have been the inspiration for the mining scene on the Lesher Dollars and the 1933 Colorado Century of Progress Dollars:
For my modest collection of random African coins I bought this neat (scarce) 1961 Katanga 5 Francs gold piece. I like how their two other main forms of money are shown (bananas on one side, iron "cross" on the other):
My only variety "cherry pick" at the show was this very scarce 1880 Morgan Dollar "Knobbed 8" die break VAM-1A2 ("Top 100"), medium die state, which I found in a dealer's Morgan Dollar "junk" tray:
Another random pickup was this neat 1574-1586 Philip II Bolivia 8 Reales silver cob, which I thought was pretty nice for a relatively small price:
And finally in the category of even more random things, I acquired this interesting plaque, 85mm x 55mm, in silver, circa 1910 with a view of the Osaka Mint. The trees on the reverse may look hand-engraved at first, but they are actually die-struck:
Whew, that was a lot. I'm "full" for the rest of the year, I think.
With all this going on, I haven't done as much in the way of minting as I normally do in January. But I did start producing these recently:
It started on 17 January when I had a late morning appointment to view (and possibly purchase) some so-called dollars at a shop about an hour drive away, and later I planned to visit a small local one-day coin show. I would have over-slept, except the phone rang at 9:00 AM. It was my bank. Uh oh. But it was one of my teller friends telling me an older gentleman had come in wanting to deposit some silver dollars and old coins (including an "1879" half dollar) into this account. I said I could come over and look at them in 15 minutes. The teller said that would be fine. So I quickly got my stuff together and went over there. The man had a pie tin with some loose coins and a couple other coins in stapled 2x2 holders. Apparently he had previously handed the teller the whole tin, 2x2s and all, to deposit. As it turns out, there were 5 common circulated Morgan and Peace dollars, a 1987 Constitution silver dollar (still in the US Mint capsule), a couple Ike dollars, and miscellaneous "junk". The 2x2s contained a VG 1909 Lincoln cent (no S or VDB), and a VG 1924-[P] nickel. The "1879" half dollar turned out to actually be a vintage counterfeit 1876-S. I ended up giving him $100 total for his $9 face value in coins.
After the bank deal, I drove the 80 minutes to the coin shop for the main event of the day. They had acquired a significant collection of exonumia with some nice Colorado rarities. They had done the research and knew what the items were worth, but they quoted me some decent prices. So I ended up getting these:
Lesher Dollar Bumstead Type 2 (no scrolls) #633:
Lesher Dollar Bumstead Type 1 (with scrolls) #157. This one has some real "flash" to it when rotated in-hand. Most Lesher Dollars, even "slabbed" ones, have a cleaned, dipped-out look. Not this one. I looked it up in the Lesher Dollar Census and it shows that the only known appearance of this one was a 1943 Max B. Mehl sale ! :
An odd thing about this one above is that it lacks the small punch mark usually seen on the left side at the junction of the mountain, sky, and denticles.
Lesher Dollar imprinted "J.M. SLUSHER Cripple Creek Colo." #115:
But the best one of the day was this high-grade rare Denver Pedley-Ryan Dollar HK-828. These were minted in Denver by Sachs Lawlor and/or HH Tammen. They also produced the 1933 Montana and Colorado silver Century of Progress rounds, which also have the characteristic of very heavy die scratches. Reportedly, only 50 were originally struck. I know of only six HK-828 in existence:
If that wasn't enough, for my collection of Colorado medals, I also picked up this 1971 Womack Cripple Creek medal in 14K gold (50+ grams). The bronze and silver versions are generally available. But I have found no references whatsoever regarding a gold one. In fact, at the time this was issued, it was supposedly illegal for US Citizens to own gold bullion or gold coins minted after 1933. Original box included:
Later the same day at the show, I spotted this early-date error Winged Liberty Head dime:
I met up with a couple friends who are members of the Colorado Springs Coin Club. They presented my with an engraved award medal for previously giving a talk at their club meeting about vintage counterfeit (VAM) Morgan Dollars. It was neat to get back a piece that I had originally minted !:
In January, via the internet, I also was able to add an unprecedented number (for me) of five new Lucien Bazor medals to that collection I have going:
1931 European Commission bronze:
1932 Paris France Numismatic Society bronze jeton (39mm):
Union Bank of Paris silver jeton, 39mm. I especially like the cornucopia of coins being poured into the industry:
1932 200th anniversary of the birth of George Washington bronze:
1944 Liberation of Paris bronze. Note the sub-machinegun, pistol, tank, and Molotov C@cktail:
My favorite Bazor medal is this one (not my medal or picture, but I have a similar one that I acquired a couple years ago):
For quite a long time I had been looking for the US Mint "coin and die" sets that include a state quarter and a defaced die that was utilized to strike it. Specifically, I wanted a Rhode Island set (especially D mint), but also P mint and New York as well (because I originally designed the NY and RI state quarters for the US Mint). I finally found a seller on the internet that had four of each D-mint and a P-mint, so I bought them. All such dies that I have seen are TOTALLY defaced with no trace of any detail. I always wondered if the dies in these sets really did strike the coins in the sets. I'm a little more confident now that they did, because when I looked at the sets upon arrival, I found one D-mint New York die had some detail left (two stars, hand & torch, "N") !
Then came the Long Beach Coin Show.
A friend of mine was driving to the show from Colorado in his brand new P85D Tesla. So I hitched a ride. For those that don't know, the P85D is the latest and greatest Performance ("P") version with the dual-motor drive ("D"). I'm accustomed to driving my big V8 American "muscle" cars. So this was something a lot different. The thing can accelerate so hard that you seriously start to wonder if you are going to pass out. We had to stop about every 100 to 125 miles to recharge at Tesla "super charger" stations. The charging usually took about 15 to 20 minutes. Ironically, my muscle cars with big thirsty V8s have a longer range. But we didn't have to spend a cent for gasoline (or for charging) the entire trip.
My goal at the show was to submit to PCGS some of the items shown earlier in this post (along with a couple other things), and to ask Mr. David Hall some specific questions in person.
When I got my chance to sit down and ask those questions, I had four specific things to ask:
1) A few months ago PCGS announced that they will start certifying certain tokens and medals: PCGS Tokens and medals . That document specifically states that they will certify items that are listed in the US section of the Krause Unusual World Coins catalog (6th edition). I showed that catalog and the PCGS press release to Mr. Hall, along with two coins that are listed in it (in the US section, "Daniel Carr Prototype Dollars" subsection). Those two coins are my "1964-D" over-strike Peace Dollar and "1975" over-strike Eisenhower Dollar. I asked flat-out if PCGS would certify those two coins and should I submit them. His answer was inconclusive but basically "not yet". He took some written notes concerning this.
2) Again armed with printouts (this time the PCGS Price Guide and Population Report) for the 1861 gold $20 Clark Gruber, I asked why it was that this is the only coin in the entire PCGS listings that I could find that had prices listed for grades that did not exist in the population report. The Population Report shows no coins higher than AU-58. But the Price Guide listed prices for MS-60, 61, and 62. At one time, there were some "Die 2" strikes that were later determined to be modern "fantasies" (possibly attributed to Ford). I suggested that some of these were MS and that they were backed out of the Population Report. But they were never backed out of the Price Guide. Mr. Hall took some notes on that as well. UPDATE: I just checked the Price Guide and there are now no prices listed above AU-58. Hooray, it worked finally ! Thank you Mr. Hall.
3) I have a vested interest in the coin from #2. I posted about it a year and a half ago: June 2013 Long Beach Show Report . I still felt strongly that my XF-45 graded coin was really a premium-quality AU-50. I brought that coin with me (still in the XF-45 Secure Plus holder) and showed it to Mr. Hall. I told him that the coin was the one pictured in the PCGS CoinFacts as the XF-45 Clark Gruber 1861 $20. I asked Mr. Hall if this coin was permanently locked into the XF-45 grade due to the Secure Plus and the imaging of it as an XF-45 in CoinFacts. I also asked if I would be wasting my money by submitting it for the "Reconsideration Service". He said that if I had only submitted it the one time, I might try again. I asked again about the CoinFacts picture and he said that if the grade changed, the grade assigned to the CoinFacts picture would also change. So I submitted the coin for "reconsideration" (end-of-show turnaround). Here it is now:
And, the PCGS CoinFacts for it was updated to AU-50 as well ! (10142 1861 $20 Calrk Gruber).
4) Lastly, I showed the following coin (in the holder) to Mr. Hall. I had recently acquired this coin already in the current holder. When I saw it on eBay, the price was right (for a normal coin), and I clicked the "Buy it Now" button as fast as I possibly could. He was puzzled and I pointed out what was "unusual" about it. After explaining it, he took some more notes. If you are really on-the-ball with Morgan Dollars, you might spot what I am talking about. If not, see the link below:
NGC issued a report about this particular coin recently: 1893-O Morgan Dollar VAM-6
I have found three of these so far. But after recently studying one of them (shown below), I noticed it was different. So I have sent it to Leroy Van Allen himself. It will likely be assigned a new VAM number (presumably "VAM-7"). More info about it is posted here: Another new 1893-O VAM found .
So after concluding my main business at the show, I wandered the bourse looking for nothing in particular. Even so, I found more items that I acquired:
For my collection of Colorado medals, I bought this rare 1882 Colorado Industrial Association medal (silver, large 53mm). I like the scene which appears to possibly have been the inspiration for the mining scene on the Lesher Dollars and the 1933 Colorado Century of Progress Dollars:
For my modest collection of random African coins I bought this neat (scarce) 1961 Katanga 5 Francs gold piece. I like how their two other main forms of money are shown (bananas on one side, iron "cross" on the other):
My only variety "cherry pick" at the show was this very scarce 1880 Morgan Dollar "Knobbed 8" die break VAM-1A2 ("Top 100"), medium die state, which I found in a dealer's Morgan Dollar "junk" tray:
Another random pickup was this neat 1574-1586 Philip II Bolivia 8 Reales silver cob, which I thought was pretty nice for a relatively small price:
And finally in the category of even more random things, I acquired this interesting plaque, 85mm x 55mm, in silver, circa 1910 with a view of the Osaka Mint. The trees on the reverse may look hand-engraved at first, but they are actually die-struck:
Whew, that was a lot. I'm "full" for the rest of the year, I think.
With all this going on, I haven't done as much in the way of minting as I normally do in January. But I did start producing these recently:
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Love the second Lesher. That coin has a great look.
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Does this mean PCGS is considering certifying these (2) restrike coins?
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Compared to the lady I saw showing Mr. Hall her Ziploc bag of loose silver, I bet your show-and-tell made his day.
<< <i>Thank you for the education & eye candy! >>
+1
I have a record for a 1882 Colorado Industrial Association medal that sold as Bowers & Merena 11/4/1985 lot 4263, but it seems that I didn't save the catalog so I can't tell you if it's the same piece.
i *love* the silver jeton piece...and of course, the $20 gruber. great story on that one too.
is that poseidon riding the four horses of the apocalypse on the bazor piece? what's the story on that medal?
i was interested to learn that some of the 1/4oz grubers you have produced are done with some of the gold from freddy dodge, et al, from the gold rush show on discovery. is that true?
i picked up this piece at the show:
i love the eagle design on the reverse. this is the satin version, even though it looks a little proof-like. these are terrible photos of a great coin!
<< <i>NICE New York State Quarter die with details remaining. It's the type of thing I look for for my collection. I'm jealous.
Thanks. if it were any other state quarter other than NY or RI, I would probably sell it to you for your collection. But I'm going to keep it for my NY and RI collections.
<< <i>That was a good read, congrats on the upgrade, I think everyone agreed it was way nicer than the other xf's around. That Chinese plaque is amazing. >>
Thanks, it is actually Japanese, with a view of the Osaka Japan Mint:
<< <i>Thanks for sharing Dan. Great recap of your month, can't wait to read a similar account of February. >>
After this, I think the rest of the year is going to be pretty boring
<< <i>Does this mean PCGS is considering certifying these (2) restrike coins? ["1964-D" and "1975" over-strike dollars] >>
The PCGS press release about tokens and medals literally stated that PCGS would certify anything in the US section of the Krause Unusual World Coins catalog (6th edition). These two over-strikes are listed in that section. But I had my doubts that PCGS would actually certify them if I submitted them. So that is why I asked Mr. Hall. He did not tell me that I should submit them at this time. Beyond that, I do not know what may transpire.
<< <i>Good read. What about the ride home in the Tesla? >>
It was about the same as the ride to the show. My Friend was tired so I got to drive the car for a couple hours including going over Vail Pass. The limited range is a bit of a problem for longer trips, but we managed. Climate controls (heat and air conditioning) come at increased energy use (and thus, reduced range). So we wore our coats when at the higher (colder) altitudes. The only thing I didn't really like about the car were the seats. If it were my car I'd probably look into some alternative. I definitely liked the performance.
<< <i>Sweet HK-828! Heritage sold one of those last year for over $7,000. >>
I know, I was the first under-bidder on that one !
It was sitting at about $3,000 for a while, even after I put in my "nuclear" bid of $6,000. Then the winning bid was one increment over that ($7,000 with buyer premium). I really "shot myself in the foot" with that, so to speak. Little did I know that another HK-828 would turn up locally, and that the sellers would look at that Heritage lot when deciding what to price it at ! All of these that are known seem to come really nice, grade-wise. But the one I did purchase was somewhat less than what the Heritage piece would have cost, and it may be very slightly higher in grade.
<< <i>I have a record for a 1882 Colorado Industrial Association medal that sold as Bowers & Merena 11/4/1985 lot 4263, but it seems that I didn't save the catalog so I can't tell you if it's the same piece. >>
That would be interesting to find out.
<< <i>great report.
i *love* the silver jeton piece...and of course, the $20 gruber. great story on that one too.
is that poseidon riding the four horses of the apocalypse on the bazor piece? what's the story on that medal? >>
It is a medal commemorating the 1931 launching of the "Atlantic" ocean liner. The obverse is meant to symbolize a "chariot of the sea".
<< <i>i was interested to learn that some of the 1/4oz grubers you have produced are done with some of the gold from freddy dodge, et al, from the gold rush show on discovery. is that true? >>
I can't say exactly which coins have how much. But yes, some gold planchets that I have used were made from Freddy Dodge gold.
<< <i>i picked up this piece at the show:
i love the eagle design on the reverse. this is the satin version, even though it looks a little proof-like. these are terrible photos of a great coin! >>
Nice
I prefer the satin finish on that one as well, especially since that die state has less lapping.
Only 47 minted also. Here is a better picture of the coin:
Any hints on 2015 Colorado sourced gold?
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<< <i>Nice report.
Any hints on 2015 Colorado sourced gold? >>
At some point I will be producing some 2015 Clark Gruber pieces using Colorado gold.
Maybe even an octagonal "$50 slug".
Very nice bits there & thanks for the entertaining stories.
Well, just Love coins, period.
<< <i>Maybe even an octagonal "$50 slug". >>
That could be interesting.
Awesome that you put the piece together to inspire us on how "it's" done. And responses to reply's, great.
I look forward to getting the 2015 Clark Gruber $5, but first I need to figure out how to acquire the 2014.
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is that poseidon riding the four horses of the apocalypse on the bazor piece? what's the story on that medal? >>
It is a medal commemorating the 1931 launching of the "Atlantic" ocean liner. The obverse is meant to symbolize a "chariot of the sea". >>
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guess i read waaay to much into that one!
<< <i>have you looked at heritage's archive to see whether any high graded 1893-o counterfeits are there? >>
No, but I might try that, just to see.
So far, the finest known is F-VF.
<< <i>Bravo! Much appreciated on the educational and enlightening post.
Awesome that you put the piece together to inspire us on how "it's" done. And responses to reply's, great.
I look forward to getting the 2015 Clark Gruber $5, but first I need to figure out how to acquire the 2014. >>
There is a 2013 issue also
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I really dig the new pieces you're working on ....
Received grades from PCGS on the four items submitted:
HK-828 die-struck Pedley-Ryan:
PCGS MS66
This is the fourth one graded. The previous three are: (2) MS63, (1) MS64.
I agree with the grade. Always nice to get a "pop top" by two full grades
Lesher Bumstead type-2 (no scrolls) #633.:
PCGS AU55
I thought AU53, but I'll take it
Lesher Bumstead type-1 (with scrolls) #157.:
PCGS MS62
I think this one is MS63, but MS62 is also fair.
Lesher Slusher #1 1 5:
PCGS AU58
I thought perhaps AU55. No complaints here.
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