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Bought my first US $5 gold coin...Is it Genuine???
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...I wanted to buy a TPG graded Details AU coin but rolled the dice with this one...I'm gonna put it in a 14k bezel and then straight on my gold chain necklace she goes. I probably overpaid and I know it has PVC residue and has been wiped but as long as it's Genuine, I'm happy 
........wait....it is real right???
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Erik
........wait....it is real right???
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Erik
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Seller is working some sort of magic, hope I'm wrong.....Images show a nice coin....IMHO.
Looks like verdigris
It won't hurt to try acetone first
<< <i>Verdigris is a chemical reaction (oxidation) that only occurs on copper - not gold. >>
...so this is a copper coin or that is PVC residue and not verdigris??? Thanks
Erik
I assume it's a gold coin. Gold is pliable, so there are metals mixed in to harden it.
So there is copper in gold coins, but from a molecular standpoint they wouldn't be concentrated enough to attract verdigris. I'd assume it's PVC.
Gold coins can be tricky to authenticate and I'm no expert.
When the government outlawed the personal ownership of gold, there was an exception for collectable coins. So people melted their gold and made their own gold coins.
Lebanon was also big on producing fake gold coins in the 70's (even though they contained actual gold) and now China makes anything somebody will buy.
If you sent to PCGS my guess would be it would come back Genuine, PVC damage.
They say if you want to have a nice day, don't buy raw gold on eBay.
But for your purpose of putting it in a bezel, I'd say just do that and enjoy it that way. It looks like a good fit for that particular coin. Much more likely than not, it is a genuine US minted Liberty half eagle.
<< <i>I assume it's a gold coin. Gold is pliable, so there are metals mixed in to harden it.
So there is copper in gold coins, but from a molecular standpoint they wouldn't be concentrated enough to attract verdigris. I'd assume it's PVC.
Gold coins can be tricky to authenticate and I'm no expert.
When the government outlawed the personal ownership of gold, there was an exception for collectable coins. So people melted their gold and made their own gold coins.
Lebanon was also big on producing fake gold coins in the 70's (even though they contained actual gold) and now China makes anything somebody will buy.
If you sent to PCGS my guess would be it would come back Genuine, PVC damage.
They say if you want to have a nice day, don't buy raw gold on eBay.
But for your purpose of putting it in a bezel, I'd say just do that and enjoy it that way. It looks like a good fit for that particular coin. Much more likely than not, it is a genuine US minted Liberty half eagle. >>
Nice...I am far too OCD to not take the coin over to my boy over at San Diego C&B to have it authenticated
Erik
<< <i>...as long as it's Genuine, I'm happy
........wait....it is real right???
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It's genuine.
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<< <i>...as long as it's Genuine, I'm happy
........wait....it is real right???
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It's genuine. >>
...Then I be Happy Happy Happy baby!!!! Thanks guys and Thanks Green Bay Packers +8.5 last week
Erik
Soak in acetone, maybe use a Q-tip, and it will be fine.
I've bought gold coins with more green than that on them, and after a soak they have graded at PCGS and a few even CAC'd.
<< <i>Your goal is accomplished. >>
Yeah, you got a coin that was minted at the turn of the century in Philadelphia, circulated lightly during its time and then probably tucked away by someone long since dead until a collector acquired it and stored it in a flip for years.
Why not go for a double eagle and put it on your chain. We could start calling you Mr. T.
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<< <i>It's real.
Why not go for a double eagle and put it on your chain. We could start calling you Mr. T. >>
...lol, I'm not that far up the pyramid yet brother...when I do then my 6 foot 4 305 pound body frame will showcase your suggestion just fine
Erik
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<< <i>It's real.
Why not go for a double eagle and put it on your chain. We could start calling you Mr. T. >>
...lol, I'm not that far up the pyramid yet brother...when I do then my 6 foot 4 305 pound body frame will showcase your suggestion just fine
Erik >>
Do you play for the Packers?
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<< <i>It's real.
Why not go for a double eagle and put it on your chain. We could start calling you Mr. T. >>
...lol, I'm not that far up the pyramid yet brother...when I do then my 6 foot 4 305 pound body frame will showcase your suggestion just fine
Erik >>
Do you play for the Packers? >>
...no I do not but my wallet played them plus 8.5 points vs. Seattle last week while in Las Vegas
They should have got the win but that's why they make a point spread,
Erik
<< <i>Authentic.... PVC will not hurt gold, but it looks crappy..... acetone rinse will clear it up.... Cheers, RickO >>
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
<< <i>Is that a raised lump next to the one in the date? >>
Good eye. That could be of concern. And there are some other raised squiggles, bumps and lumps that need to be checked out. If the coin doesn't show die cracks and die polish I'd be even more concerned. Copper alloy spot on the reverse next the 1st "T" in STATES is a positive sign. Funky looking right leg on the "R" in LIBERTY. Maybe just an illusion.
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
Here is an example of a certified coin of the same type. If you compare the two you will see what I mean.
And here is another. The definition of the devices on a genuine coin are clear and crisp.