<< <i>I'll say it again, and I'm only saying it because even though you may love the hobby, and love the pursuit, it's 99.9% impossible to put a 10 set together through wax packs.
That's loser talk. Would Clint Eastwood give up on the set? Would Bruce Springsteen? Would Rocky? >>
In Rocky Marciano's first championship bout he was knocked down in the first round, but fought back and ended up winning, becoming the Heavyweight Champion.
Last night PSA knocked me down, but this is only round one....
Soon there will be a bronze statue of me. Perhaps a movie? It will be called, "House of Cards"
I still don't get the need for a loupe when subbing this issue. If you can't see the wear on the corners, a loupe isn't going to make a difference. And if you're using a loupe to differentiate, then you're examining too hard or don't know how to properly use the loupe.
Too many over complicate the grading process. Tools and lights and loupes and systems and tricks and lions and tigers and bears . . . OH MY! You either know how to look at a card or you don't. But, since even a blind squirrel will find a nut once in awhile, some will insist they know better.
BTW, I'd probably find someone else to handle the cards before you submit them (I think we've found the flaw in the process ):
<< <i>I still don't get the need for a loupe when subbing this issue. If you can't see the wear on the corners, a loupe isn't going to make a difference. And if you're using a loupe to differentiate, then you're examining too hard or don't know how to properly use the loupe.
Too many over complicate the grading process. Tools and lights and loupes and systems and tricks and lions and tigers and bears . . . OH MY! You either know how to look at a card or you don't. But, since even a blind squirrel will find a nut once in awhile, some will insist they know better.
BTW, I'd probably find someone else to handle the cards before you submit them (I think we've found the flaw in the process ): >>
lol!
You're right, now that I have the graded cards in hand I see where PSA got me...mainly the corners. I guess it's just part of the blue edges/borders...any wear really sticks out. I'll still use the loupe as a last step before sub, but if there's wear, you're going to see it with the naked eye.
<< <i>I'll say it again, and I'm only saying it because even though you may love the hobby, and love the pursuit, it's 99.9% impossible to put a 10 set together through wax packs.
That's loser talk. Would Clint Eastwood give up on the set? Would Bruce Springsteen? Would Rocky? >>
Was it over when the german's bombed Pearl Harbor? As long as it's within your hobby budget, why not do what you enjoy? I'd be willing to bet that most people building psa company sets are pissing more money away than you are with this set. a set of 9s and higher would be nice to have regardless of how junk waxy the set is. I'd love to have an 87 topps bb set in 9 or better but I know I'm not patient enough to see it through.
I would buy the 8 or so cheap Gems from 4SC to get a better sample of what they want in a gem, and to get the set going. You can always replace them later.
Hi Patrick, Some of the cards you subbed didn't have 50/50 centering, which surprised me. The centering isn't the major obstacle in this set, so don't make the PSA graders think at all about downgrading for centering.
Here's what I would do in this instance. Go through each 9 and try to find the reason why it isn't a 10. I start with centering, then corners, then edges, and finally all aspects of the surface. Gum or oil spots? Snow on the surface? Registration? Surface indentation or bubble? With a loupe it usually isn't that hard to find something minute but previously undetected. If you can't find anything then crack and resub.
What I have found in my years of subbing to PSA is that sometimes I have to believe a card is better than its given grade. After all, each time a card goes in to PSA it is evaluated with fresh eyes.
Still scratching my head at your lack of 10's on that last submission.
Hi patrick, I say this with all sincerity. As much as I'd love to see updates and the continuity of this project, I believe this is a lost cause unless you have unlimited funds. You've received some great advice on how to scrutinize the cards better, BUT from my personal experience with this issue (mainly Sakic), I have never gotten higher than an 8 and I tried for about 2 yrs. All with 50/50 centering and clean registration with no white on edges or corners. I was trying to get that first pop 1. Frustrated and confused; I gave up cos I simply don't know what the graders see or look for. When the first pop 1 was live for sale, it had close to 60/40 L/R with two print dots (hideous) so go figure. While the challenge and addiction to obtain is synonymous; it is convoluted. Best of luck to you on your decision.
I forgot to mention that some of those 8 Sakics look great. I would crack them out and inspect them again since you now have a loupe cos I honestly don't believe you'll even recoupe the grading fees on them.
Might you consider putting the set together in Mint 9 grade (with the occasional 10 being a bonus)? That would be quite a challenge itself but at least it is possible. Putting the set together in PSA 10 grade from self subs is impossible, really. Good luck on your subs!
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
I've pretty much started that. I have a PSA 9 Mint set that I'm putting together and and 10s will go into a separate set. Here are the sets. When there's time I'm adding large pictures of the front and backs of each card to the registry sets. At least I have some solid progress with that one Sets
Eagle,
Now that I have these in-hand think I know now what PSA wants with this set: perfect corners and edges.
However, with Sakic, Gretzky and Lemieux....who knows what they want? Of all the Sakics that 9 above is one of the ugliest of the bunch. The Gretzky cards are beautiful. One of the Lemieuxs could have been a 10.
I knew the blue borders and corners would be tough with this issue...but I didn't think this tough. Like has been said so many times already, it's all in the edges and corners. The edge sometimes chip when I carefully slide them into cardsavers. Sometimes I think if I look at them too hard they'll chip. It's probably a losing battle.
I'm going to keep it going but am totally open to stopping the project if results like these continue.
We've been moving a lot of things around the house and cleaning. While Daniel naps I'm loading away in cardsavers. We're remodeling the kitchen and trying "paper bag" floors. Thought we could use the extra '89s instead, but she keeps saying no
This sub arrived in the mail a little while ago today and thought I'd post big scans of the 10s a Lemieux 9 and the only Sakic that went along this one. These are the first two 10s...196 to go
The best part of this thread for me was learning you named your son Daniel. Smart choice of a name that denotes intense masculinity and overall greatness.
<< <i>The best part of this thread for me was learning you named your son Daniel. Smart choice of a name that denotes intense masculinity and overall greatness. >>
Clearly Joe's hair is feathered perfectly in the 9 and a bit askew in the 8 and 7.
Good grief, I don't know what to tell you. The 7 looks as nice or nicer than the 8 to me. I've spent 15 minutes trying to determine if the different color borders between the blue and the photograph causes an optical illusion with the centering and I've about lost my mind doing so. I swear on some of your earlier scans the card is centered to the left on the front and to the right on the rear.
I think all the grades are fair for the large scans you presented. The Lemieux has a few surface imperfections that justify not giving it a 10. Best not to compare with 4SC grades, BTW. That will just drive you nuts.
<< <i>I think all the grades are fair for the large scans you presented. The Lemieux has a few surface imperfections that justify not giving it a 10. Best not to compare with 4SC grades, BTW. That will just drive you nuts. >>
Agree with 4SC. Also agree with the grades. Not complaining by posting pictures, just showing how tough this set is! It's hard to see with the small scan, but the Lemieux has some very minor chipping on the bottom border to the left.
I would be tempted to resub some of these cards without cracking them out. At least then PSA will point out what is keeping the card at a certain grade on some your nicer looking 8's and 9's.
If it helps you feel any better, I've only received one 10 from five submissions of 80's OPC hockey.
opened a box of these last night. Fun rip with a small set got multiples of all of the key cards!
Was looking to see how possible 10s would be and boy it would be tough! Centering is not grade for 1989 cards, those blue corners were easily touched, and edges easily showed surface issues. got 3 sakics and the middle i first thought had a good shot at a 9, but the bottom right edge has that white mark.
Great job on the stars shu4040! Out of all the boxes I've opened only about 10% had 3 Sakics, Gretzkys and Lemieuxs. No box has had four of one of those players!
10s really are hard. do you think ANY of the cards you pulled could grade 10?
very cool that i hit a good star box! as you know the sequences even in one box started appearing rather prominantly so i knew a card or two before if sakic or gretzky might be appear
as for 10s in the box?? honestly i would have probably sent in maybe 5 or 6 commons if i was trying to build a 10 set. realistically, especially seeing your results, i don't think any would get it. most cards were off center 65/35 R/L and the ones that werent had the tiniest of edge wear making it virtually impossible to find perfect cards
A couple weeks ago Steve (slum22) PMd me and said he has something for my collection "nothing too big but something nonetheless" so the other day I received a Priority Mail package with an unopened box of 1989 Topps Hockey inside! Very generous and I want to publicly say THANK YOU for the box! I decided to take the time to share the rip here since Steve was so generous to send me this awesome gift! Again, THANK YOU Steve!!!
Here it is. Cardsavers ready to go!
Packs looking sharp!
Even though the box was in pretty good shape and the packs are sharp, almost ever card has at least one corner touched. Edges on many have slight chipping.
Pulled one Sakic, two Gretzky and two Lemieux. The Sakic was wax stained, but would have graded an 8 anyways to no big heartbreak. The Gretzkys were beautifully centered but corners were touched. Lemieuxs were OC and touched corners.
When I go through a box I put in one pile wax stained cards (not pictured) another pile ungradeable damaged and OC cards (pictured left) and another pile with ones that at a quick glance are centered and have nice eye-appeal (pictured right) it's these cards that I will sift through to find possible gems.
Here's the stack that was on the right broken down. I'm now ready to go through these.
After going through each card more carefully I've put in cardsavers the strongest ones. These are the ones I will now go through with a loupe. A note on the loupe: you can easily see with the naked eye touched corners since they're blue but the loupe really reveals edge wear that, at least I, have trouble seeing.
After using the loupe to look at the corners the pile on the right are the keepers! Only seven, but that's about right for a box of '89!
The last step that I take is a new one for me that I just started doing the past couple subs (haven't received the results of those yet) where I scan the keepers and blow them up on my computer. Might be a bit of overkill, but I think that for this series and my project it's necessary. Here are the final seven that have the best chance at 10s. These are filed away for a future sub.
Patrick, thanks for sharing the rip. I wish you would have gotten more gradable cards out of the box and I definitely wish the major cards would have turned out better for you. I hope you enjoyed the rip anyway. I don't think I have posted much on this thread, but it is one of my favorites. Your quest for this set is an inspiration. Good luck on your future subs. I hope you get some 10's out of this one.
Been awhile since I updated this. This is my most recent poppage from last week. I knew none of these would get a 10, but I plan to grade nearly all the centered Sakic cards I pull, so here we are.
NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1989 Topps 113 Joe Sakic Card NEAR MINT 7 1989 Topps 113 Joe Sakic Card NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1989 Topps 113 Joe Sakic Card NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1989 Topps 113 Joe Sakic Card EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1989 Topps 113 Joe Sakic Card EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1989 Topps 113 Joe Sakic Card NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1989 Topps 113 Joe Sakic Card NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1989 Topps 113 Joe Sakic Card NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1989 Topps 113 Joe Sakic Card
<< <i>Been awhile since I updated this. This is my most recent poppage from last week. I knew none of these would get a 10, but I plan to grade nearly all the centered Sakic cards I pull, so here we are.
NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1989 Topps 113 Joe Sakic Card NEAR MINT 7 1989 Topps 113 Joe Sakic Card NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1989 Topps 113 Joe Sakic Card NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1989 Topps 113 Joe Sakic Card EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1989 Topps 113 Joe Sakic Card EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1989 Topps 113 Joe Sakic Card NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1989 Topps 113 Joe Sakic Card NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1989 Topps 113 Joe Sakic Card NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1989 Topps 113 Joe Sakic Card >>
Let me start off with saying, I enjoy reading your posts on this thread and admire the enthusiasm with which you are tackling this project. With that said, why do you plan to grade nearly all the centered Sakic cards? Even 8's sell for less than grading fees. One PSA 8 sold for $2.01 a couple weeks ago. A 9 will get you over $25, and obviously with how rare it is a 10 is a big pay-off, but if something is obviously an 8 or lower when you inspect it raw, why bother having it graded? Seems like if you wanted to amass a large amount of graded Sakic Topps RC's for a personal hoard, it would be way more cost-effective to buy all the ones you can for under $5.00 each?
<< <i>Been awhile since I updated this. This is my most recent poppage from last week. I knew none of these would get a 10, but I plan to grade nearly all the centered Sakic cards I pull, so here we are.
NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1989 Topps 113 Joe Sakic Card NEAR MINT 7 1989 Topps 113 Joe Sakic Card NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1989 Topps 113 Joe Sakic Card NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1989 Topps 113 Joe Sakic Card EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1989 Topps 113 Joe Sakic Card EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1989 Topps 113 Joe Sakic Card NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1989 Topps 113 Joe Sakic Card NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1989 Topps 113 Joe Sakic Card NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1989 Topps 113 Joe Sakic Card >>
Let me start off with saying, I enjoy reading your posts on this thread and admire the enthusiasm with which you are tackling this project. With that said, why do you plan to grade nearly all the centered Sakic cards? Even 8's sell for less than grading fees. One PSA 8 sold for $2.01 a couple weeks ago. A 9 will get you over $25, and obviously with how rare it is a 10 is a big pay-off, but if something is obviously an 8 or lower when you inspect it raw, why bother having it graded? Seems like if you wanted to amass a large amount of graded Sakic Topps RC's for a personal hoard, it would be way more cost-effective to buy all the ones you can for under $5.00 each? >>
Thanks guys. There really is no logical reason to grade all the centered Sakics, but I think it's an important card and belongs in a holder regardless of value. And I give them out to those who want one. Win for all
Comments
<< <i>I'll say it again, and I'm only saying it because even though you may love the hobby, and love the pursuit, it's 99.9% impossible to put a 10 set together through wax packs.
That's loser talk. Would Clint Eastwood give up on the set? Would Bruce Springsteen? Would Rocky? >>
In Rocky Marciano's first championship bout he was knocked down in the first round, but fought back and ended up winning, becoming the Heavyweight Champion.
Last night PSA knocked me down, but this is only round one....
Soon there will be a bronze statue of me. Perhaps a movie? It will be called, "House of Cards"
Those Gretzky's you shared are ugly. That white streak isn't even a common PD. I cannot imagine in what world those would get 10's.
-Nathanael
Too many over complicate the grading process. Tools and lights and loupes and systems and tricks and lions and tigers and bears . . . OH MY! You either know how to look at a card or you don't. But, since even a blind squirrel will find a nut once in awhile, some will insist they know better.
BTW, I'd probably find someone else to handle the cards before you submit them (I think we've found the flaw in the process
<< <i>I still don't get the need for a loupe when subbing this issue. If you can't see the wear on the corners, a loupe isn't going to make a difference. And if you're using a loupe to differentiate, then you're examining too hard or don't know how to properly use the loupe.
Too many over complicate the grading process. Tools and lights and loupes and systems and tricks and lions and tigers and bears . . . OH MY! You either know how to look at a card or you don't. But, since even a blind squirrel will find a nut once in awhile, some will insist they know better.
BTW, I'd probably find someone else to handle the cards before you submit them (I think we've found the flaw in the process
>>
You're right, now that I have the graded cards in hand I see where PSA got me...mainly the corners. I guess it's just part of the blue edges/borders...any wear really sticks out. I'll still use the loupe as a last step before sub, but if there's wear, you're going to see it with the naked eye.
<< <i>I'll say it again, and I'm only saying it because even though you may love the hobby, and love the pursuit, it's 99.9% impossible to put a 10 set together through wax packs.
That's loser talk. Would Clint Eastwood give up on the set? Would Bruce Springsteen? Would Rocky? >>
Was it over when the german's bombed Pearl Harbor? As long as it's within your hobby budget, why not do what you enjoy? I'd be willing to bet that most people building psa company sets are pissing more money away than you are with this set. a set of 9s and higher would be nice to have regardless of how junk waxy the set is. I'd love to have an 87 topps bb set in 9 or better but I know I'm not patient enough to see it through.
I wanted to send every Sakic and Gretzky that I had at the time.
Please keep in mind that I knew many cards were not 10s when I sent this in. This was sort of a practice sub for me being the first.
However, I did hope for 10 to 15 10s.
If you see anything in here worth sending in for a review, please let me know the cert number.
Thank you!!!
Whenever I pull nice, centered cards out of packs I put them aside.
Currently have about four bookshelves with stacked cards that need to be inspected.
Got 2,000 CS1s in the other day to get these cards into.
Some of the cards you subbed didn't have 50/50 centering, which surprised me. The centering isn't the major obstacle in this set, so don't make the PSA graders think at all about downgrading for centering.
Here's what I would do in this instance. Go through each 9 and try to find the reason why it isn't a 10. I start with centering, then corners, then edges, and finally all aspects of the surface. Gum or oil spots? Snow on the surface? Registration? Surface indentation or bubble? With a loupe it usually isn't that hard to find something minute but previously undetected. If you can't find anything then crack and resub.
What I have found in my years of subbing to PSA is that sometimes I have to believe a card is better than its given grade. After all, each time a card goes in to PSA it is evaluated with fresh eyes.
Still scratching my head at your lack of 10's on that last submission.
-Nathanael
I say this with all sincerity. As much as I'd love to see updates and the continuity of this project, I believe this is a lost cause unless you have unlimited funds. You've received some great advice on how to scrutinize the cards better, BUT from my personal experience with this issue (mainly Sakic), I have never gotten higher than an 8 and I tried for about 2 yrs. All with 50/50 centering and clean registration with no white on edges or corners. I was trying to get that first pop 1. Frustrated and confused; I gave up cos I simply don't know what the graders see or look for. When the first pop 1 was live for sale, it had close to 60/40 L/R with two print dots (hideous) so go figure. While the challenge and addiction to obtain is synonymous; it is convoluted. Best of luck to you on your decision.
I would crack them out and inspect them again since you now have a loupe
cos I honestly don't believe you'll even recoupe the grading fees on them.
Might you consider putting the set together in Mint 9 grade (with the occasional 10 being a bonus)? That would be quite a challenge itself but at least it is possible. Putting the set together in PSA 10 grade from self subs is impossible, really. Good luck on your subs!
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
I've pretty much started that. I have a PSA 9 Mint set that I'm putting together and and 10s will go into a separate set. Here are the sets. When there's time I'm adding large pictures of the front and backs of each card to the registry sets. At least I have some solid progress with that one
Eagle,
Now that I have these in-hand think I know now what PSA wants with this set: perfect corners and edges.
However, with Sakic, Gretzky and Lemieux....who knows what they want? Of all the Sakics that 9 above is one of the ugliest of the bunch. The Gretzky cards are beautiful. One of the Lemieuxs could have been a 10.
I knew the blue borders and corners would be tough with this issue...but I didn't think this tough. Like has been said so many times already, it's all in the edges and corners. The edge sometimes chip when I carefully slide them into cardsavers. Sometimes I think if I look at them too hard they'll chip. It's probably a losing battle.
I'm going to keep it going but am totally open to stopping the project if results like these continue.
We've been moving a lot of things around the house and cleaning. While Daniel naps I'm loading away in cardsavers. We're remodeling the kitchen and trying "paper bag" floors. Thought we could use the extra '89s instead, but she keeps saying no
<< <i>The best part of this thread for me was learning you named your son Daniel. Smart choice of a name that denotes intense masculinity and overall greatness. >>
Thank you sir!
<< <i>Ah yes. Better scans. I can see the white corners on the 7 now, but that's a little harsh. >>
Knew it wouldn't go for 10 but though..eh, 8.5 (.5 for overall centering and eye-appeal) or 9.
Good grief, I don't know what to tell you. The 7 looks as nice or nicer than the 8 to me. I've spent 15 minutes trying to determine if the different color borders between the blue and the photograph causes an optical illusion with the centering and I've about lost my mind doing so. I swear on some of your earlier scans the card is centered to the left on the front and to the right on the rear.
<< <i>My guess on the Sakic 9-8-7's is the fraying on the corners under magnification. >>
I would agree. You can see the white fraying on the top 2 corners of the PSA 7.
I think they threw you a bone with the PSA 9 Sakic. Top left corner and bottom right corner is worse than some of the 8s.
<< <i>I think all the grades are fair for the large scans you presented. The Lemieux has a few surface imperfections that justify not giving it a 10. Best not to compare with 4SC grades, BTW. That will just drive you nuts. >>
Agree with 4SC. Also agree with the grades. Not complaining by posting pictures, just showing how tough this set is! It's hard to see with the small scan, but the Lemieux has some very minor chipping on the bottom border to the left.
Casey, you're right, the 7 has surface issues.
<< <i>
I think they threw you a bone with the PSA 9 Sakic. Top left corner and bottom right corner is worse than some of the 8s. >>
Agree. It's an ugly looking 9. Threw me a bone not worthy enough to send in under review
<< <i>I'm not sure >>
Agree.
At least then PSA will point out what is keeping the card at a certain grade on some your nicer looking 8's and 9's.
If it helps you feel any better, I've only received one 10 from five submissions of 80's OPC hockey.
I grabbed a box off ebay just to check uour how tough these seem in person myself!
Was looking to see how possible 10s would be and boy it would be tough! Centering is not grade for 1989 cards, those blue corners were easily touched, and edges easily showed surface issues.
got 3 sakics and the middle i first thought had a good shot at a 9, but the bottom right edge has that white mark.
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<< <i>Unusually high yield of Sakic, Gretzky, and Lemieux for a box. Good job! >>
+1
10s really are hard. do you think ANY of the cards you pulled could grade 10?
as for 10s in the box?? honestly i would have probably sent in maybe 5 or 6 commons if i was trying to build a 10 set. realistically, especially seeing your results, i don't think any would get it. most cards were off center 65/35 R/L and the ones that werent had the tiniest of edge wear making it virtually impossible to find perfect cards
Here it is. Cardsavers ready to go!
Packs looking sharp!
Even though the box was in pretty good shape and the packs are sharp, almost ever card has at least one corner touched. Edges on many have slight chipping.
Pulled one Sakic, two Gretzky and two Lemieux. The Sakic was wax stained, but would have graded an 8 anyways to no big heartbreak. The Gretzkys were beautifully centered but corners were touched. Lemieuxs were OC and touched corners.
When I go through a box I put in one pile wax stained cards (not pictured) another pile ungradeable damaged and OC cards (pictured left) and another pile with ones that at a quick glance are centered and have nice eye-appeal (pictured right) it's these cards that I will sift through to find possible gems.
Here's the stack that was on the right broken down. I'm now ready to go through these.
After going through each card more carefully I've put in cardsavers the strongest ones. These are the ones I will now go through with a loupe. A note on the loupe: you can easily see with the naked eye touched corners since they're blue but the loupe really reveals edge wear that, at least I, have trouble seeing.
After using the loupe to look at the corners the pile on the right are the keepers! Only seven, but that's about right for a box of '89!
The last step that I take is a new one for me that I just started doing the past couple subs (haven't received the results of those yet) where I scan the keepers and blow them up on my computer. Might be a bit of overkill, but I think that for this series and my project it's necessary. Here are the final seven that have the best chance at 10s. These are filed away for a future sub.
NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1989 Topps 113 Joe Sakic Card
NEAR MINT 7 1989 Topps 113 Joe Sakic Card
NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1989 Topps 113 Joe Sakic Card
NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1989 Topps 113 Joe Sakic Card
EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1989 Topps 113 Joe Sakic Card
EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1989 Topps 113 Joe Sakic Card
NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1989 Topps 113 Joe Sakic Card
NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1989 Topps 113 Joe Sakic Card
NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1989 Topps 113 Joe Sakic Card
<< <i>Been awhile since I updated this. This is my most recent poppage from last week. I knew none of these would get a 10, but I plan to grade nearly all the centered Sakic cards I pull, so here we are.
NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1989 Topps 113 Joe Sakic Card
NEAR MINT 7 1989 Topps 113 Joe Sakic Card
NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1989 Topps 113 Joe Sakic Card
NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1989 Topps 113 Joe Sakic Card
EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1989 Topps 113 Joe Sakic Card
EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1989 Topps 113 Joe Sakic Card
NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1989 Topps 113 Joe Sakic Card
NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1989 Topps 113 Joe Sakic Card
NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1989 Topps 113 Joe Sakic Card >>
Let me start off with saying, I enjoy reading your posts on this thread and admire the enthusiasm with which you are tackling this project. With that said, why do you plan to grade nearly all the centered Sakic cards? Even 8's sell for less than grading fees. One PSA 8 sold for $2.01 a couple weeks ago. A 9 will get you over $25, and obviously with how rare it is a 10 is a big pay-off, but if something is obviously an 8 or lower when you inspect it raw, why bother having it graded? Seems like if you wanted to amass a large amount of graded Sakic Topps RC's for a personal hoard, it would be way more cost-effective to buy all the ones you can for under $5.00 each?
<< <i>
<< <i>Been awhile since I updated this. This is my most recent poppage from last week. I knew none of these would get a 10, but I plan to grade nearly all the centered Sakic cards I pull, so here we are.
NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1989 Topps 113 Joe Sakic Card
NEAR MINT 7 1989 Topps 113 Joe Sakic Card
NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1989 Topps 113 Joe Sakic Card
NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1989 Topps 113 Joe Sakic Card
EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1989 Topps 113 Joe Sakic Card
EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1989 Topps 113 Joe Sakic Card
NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1989 Topps 113 Joe Sakic Card
NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1989 Topps 113 Joe Sakic Card
NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1989 Topps 113 Joe Sakic Card >>
Let me start off with saying, I enjoy reading your posts on this thread and admire the enthusiasm with which you are tackling this project. With that said, why do you plan to grade nearly all the centered Sakic cards? Even 8's sell for less than grading fees. One PSA 8 sold for $2.01 a couple weeks ago. A 9 will get you over $25, and obviously with how rare it is a 10 is a big pay-off, but if something is obviously an 8 or lower when you inspect it raw, why bother having it graded? Seems like if you wanted to amass a large amount of graded Sakic Topps RC's for a personal hoard, it would be way more cost-effective to buy all the ones you can for under $5.00 each? >>
Thanks guys. There really is no logical reason to grade all the centered Sakics, but I think it's an important card and belongs in a holder regardless of value. And I give them out to those who want one. Win for all