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jmski52jmski52 Posts: 22,380 ✭✭✭✭✭
I resolved to open all or most of the 35 rolls of 1959-P Roosies that have some vibrant toners on the open end of the roll. I plan to post a pic of each end coin (and any others) as I open each roll and look for high grades as I go. Since I'm slow to do this anyway, I thought I'd make it into a striptease event.image

If this is too hokey or too much for a thread, just let me know and I'll let it drop. Otherwise, I'll be posting the pics starting today.
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    derrybderryb Posts: 36,209 ✭✭✭✭✭
    what will you be wearing?

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    RadioContestKingRadioContestKing Posts: 3,004 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Jerry I still have the rolls of quarters you sent me and going to send in a few of the 68 P and D and 69 P and D . Good luck with the Dimes and look forward to seeing what is inside the rolls..............Enjoy image
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    lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 43,212 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>If this is too hokey or too much for a thread, just let me know and I'll let it drop. Otherwise, I'll be posting the pics starting today. >>



    Of COURSE it's hokey.









    Which is precisely why I so eagerly anticipate it. image

    Great idea, if you ask me, though if you ask anyone else, they've probably already placed me on the "Suspected Hokeyness" watchlist for my own drivel. image

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    SoCalBigMarkSoCalBigMark Posts: 2,786 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I just lost out on an auction of BU red cents, I keep kicking myself, but know deep down most likely the whole roll was spotted as is normally the case for this date and mm.
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    jmski52jmski52 Posts: 22,380 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Here's Roll #1. I'm showing the roll itself, removed from the wrapper, the coin from the open end, a middle coin, and then the coin on the paper end (which surprisingly had some golden toning.) This is a mediocre roll - don't worry, they get better.image

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    The end coin is gun metal with some color peeking through.

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    The middle coins have some edge darkening, but not evenly dispersed - with blast white centers. I saw this same thing on the 1958's as well.

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    The paper end coin, with some golden toning:

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    I won't be showing the middle coins on future posts, unless something interesting pops up.

    Give me your opinions on the bands. Are they approaching Full Bands?

    Want to see more? You likey?image
    Q: Are You Printing Money? Bernanke: Not Literally

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    mrkbrown87mrkbrown87 Posts: 909 ✭✭✭
    Keep em coming!!
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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Interesting....looks like full bands..... wonder why that coin is so black?? And not the dime on the other end?? Cheers, RickO
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    lcoopielcoopie Posts: 8,778 ✭✭✭✭✭
    looking at the price guides it seems like you need to find 66s, but really 67s
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    DrBusterDrBuster Posts: 5,308 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I love box break threads!
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    jmski52jmski52 Posts: 22,380 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Here's Roll 2:

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    The coin from the Open End:

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    The coin from the Paper End:

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    BodinBodin Posts: 997 ✭✭✭
    Sweet! This is fun! Keep em coming. Looks like some great coins in those rolls!
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    jmski52jmski52 Posts: 22,380 ✭✭✭✭✭
    A couple of Dazzlers.................

    Here's the coin from the Open End of Roll 3:

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    And here's the coin from the Paper End of Roll 3:

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    Q: Are You Printing Money? Bernanke: Not Literally

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    Now those are pretty!!
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    DorkGirlDorkGirl Posts: 9,994 ✭✭✭
    #3 is nice!
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    jmski52jmski52 Posts: 22,380 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It's interesting. Rolls 1 & 4 look like this. Some of the coins have edges that toned, right next to coins that the edges didn't tone. Rolls 2 & 3 had whiter edges for the most part. Here's some pics of the toned edges:

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    Here's the coin from the Open End of Roll 4:

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    And here's the coin from the Paper End of Roll 4:

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    With a good striptease, we must have some anticipation. Some suspense. So, this thread is going dark while I sort through the 4 rolls that I've already opened. You can't just show everything and be done with it, in a good striptease.image


    So, bare with me while I do my diligence. I won't keep bumping this thread now. From now on, I'll update the Roll Number in the thread title, and that way the thread can make it on it's own merits. I have 31 rolls to go, although I might decide to keep a few of them unopened. But there will be plenty more pics as I go. I hope that you enjoy the show.

    Ah - in order to keep the sequence, I'll have to bump the thread occasionally. But I'll try not to be too conspicuous.

    Here's the coin from the Open End of Roll 5:

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    And here's the coin from the Paper End of Roll 5:

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    Here's the coin from the Open End of Roll 6:

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    Here's the coin from the Paper End of Roll 6:

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    Final Roll for today, I think. I picked out one of the few yucky rolls to get it out of the way. Even the edges look a little grungy, but the coin centers are still mostly white, kinda.

    Here's what the coin edges on this crumby roll look like. Not pretty toning on the edges like Roll 4:

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    Here is the coin from the Open End of Roll 7:

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    Here's the coin from the Paper End of Roll 7:

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    ModCrewmanModCrewman Posts: 4,027 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Roll #3 is definitely the winner for eye appeal so far IMHO.
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    crypto79crypto79 Posts: 8,623
    I think this is a very cool thread, well coin guy cool, Maybe not real world cool. My wife informs me daily that many things I think are cool are not so I might not be the best judge.
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    I like roll 5 the best so far. Great idea for a thread thanks for posting this.image
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    sparky64sparky64 Posts: 7,026 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I think this is a very cool thread, well coin guy cool. Maybe not real world cool. >>


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    erwindocerwindoc Posts: 4,927 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I like that end of roll neon toner from roll #5. Let me know if it needs a home.
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    lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 43,212 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Rool 5 & 6 end coins look good.

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    jmski52jmski52 Posts: 22,380 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I realized that I should take a couple of last "group photos" before the final breakup, so here's the 35 rolls all together.

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    Here's what the "paper end" of these rolls all look like:

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    It takes time to carefully open the rolls, photo them, download and sort the photos, crop and size them, and finally to post them. Here's the remaining rolls that I'm working toward.

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    Here's another look at the edges of a typical roll. All of the center coins are white on the obverse and reverse. Some are approaching full bands, I hope to examine some of these rolls for potential grades this weekend.

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    Now, getting back down to brass tacks, here is the coin from the "open end" of Roll 8:

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    Here is the coin from the "paper end" of Roll 8:

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    Here's the coin from the "open end" of Roll 9:

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    Here's the coin from the "paper end" of Roll 9:

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    Here's the coin from the "open end" of Roll 10:

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    Here's the coin from the "paper end" of Roll 10:

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    Q: Are You Printing Money? Bernanke: Not Literally

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    SkyManSkyMan Posts: 9,493 ✭✭✭✭✭
    VERY cool!!! Thank you for doing this so we can be voyeurs...
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    jmski52jmski52 Posts: 22,380 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I've been waiting for 8 years to do this, and I'm gratified that the voyeurs and coin geeks can enjoy it!! It's fun for me to get to do this.image

    Here is the coin from the "open end" of Roll 11:

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    Here is the coin from the "paper end" of Roll 11:

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    Here is the coin from the "open end" of Roll 12:

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    Here is the coin from the "paper end" of Roll 12:

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    Here is the coin from the "open end" of Roll 13:

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    Here is the coin from the "paper end" of Roll 13:

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    Here's my last post for the evening. Some of the rolls are difficult to open and the coins are hard to remove without tearing the paper because it's a bit brittle and weak. One of the rolls cracked like an egg while I was trying to shake the coins loose! (I will post that paper roll later). Even so, only one of the rolls opened so far had coins that were adversely affected by the environment, (Roll 7 I believe.) All of the other rolls have interior coins with great luster. Most have their fair share of dings, some more, some less - and some look relatively clean. As I mentioned previously, I planned to go through the 59-Ps for potential high grades but I haven't started that project yet. I'm following David Hall's advice, "have fun with your coins".image

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    Here is the coin from the "open end" of Roll 14:

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    Here is the coin from the "paper end" of Roll 14:

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    BochimanBochiman Posts: 25,298 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Very nice!

    Rolls 5-9-10-11-12 have coins that I would admire in our, or any, collection.

    I love the neon look of the ones with the yellow and the blues/greens....particularly roll 5 & 10


    Thank you for sharing the experience with us via the forum.

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    StaircoinsStaircoins Posts: 2,565 ✭✭✭
    Really an informative thread.

    Thanks for the documentation as you go through the process.

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    erwindocerwindoc Posts: 4,927 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I think the FB populations are going to go up...
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    jmski52jmski52 Posts: 22,380 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I spent some of the day looking for higher grades in the rolls I already opened. I've found that it's not too hard to get distracted by things like luster or die polishing even though you try to focus mainly on finding and counting the "tics" that detract from a grade. (At least, that's how I do it.)

    I find myself looking at one side of a coin and when it's really nice I'm hoping, hoping, hoping that the other side is nice. And then, it's not! Or, I'll find a fairly well-struck coin with hard-looking surfaces with good luster, but a bunch of marks. I keep wondering how such tiny marks can occur on such a small uncirculated coin. Some of them are triangular in shape and kinda deep, for the size of the coin. And they aren't indentations from another edge. Weird.

    I also see quite a bit of die polishing, and even some slick spots where the die polishing might have been too aggressive. These spots reoccur on several coins in different rolls.

    All in all, it's easy to become enamoured of the silver surfaces on a micro scale - they kind of remind me of what I see on a Daniel Carr coin when I look real close at the surfaces. I've found some coins with extra metal from flakes off of other coins, in fact I already have a few silver flakes on the fabric I'm using to handle the coins. I've found 3 or 4 specimens that have a very small cud die break under FDR's nose.

    Anyhow, I know you're wanting to see some color but this is a striptease and you simply have to wait. But I can post what looks to me like a high grade coin from today's roll scrutiny. I've gone through the first 6 rolls today, and I'll probably have enough time to do another 8 tomorrow during the day. Today was overcast, so the lighting wasn't good for pics today anyhow.

    Here is a nice specimen that I have some hopes for. I see a couple of tiny "tics" in the photo that I didn't see with my 10X loupe, but they probably aren't deal killers. I've set aside a few others as well, but time is short for photo-taking today.

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    orevilleoreville Posts: 11,786 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Chase Manhattan Bank obw rolls are VERY highly desired especially during the Rockefeller era.

    At least save the paper rolls.

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    jmski52jmski52 Posts: 22,380 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Chase Manhattan Bank obw rolls are VERY highly desired especially during the Rockefeller era.

    At least save the paper rolls.


    Orville brings up something that I was hoping that I could mostly avoid.

    I've had requests for these rolls, citing some degree of collector desirability and a wish to preserve them, or at least some of them. This is what makes it hard in the first place, because I like coins and history as well.

    I'm inclined to keep opening the rolls, keep documenting what I find, and then put most of the coins back into their original wrappers and sell the toners, keeping some of them.

    I would then have rolls that are "96% original", in the original wrappers.

    Maybe I could keep the worst-looking rolls 100% intact?

    I appreciate your various perspectives, but I was really only trying to share the experience of opening these rolls - with anyone who thinks it's interesting. If I start offending people's sensibilities of history or preservation, then I probably need to cool it, at least here anyhow.

    In the meantime, here's the roll I picked as Roll 15:

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    Rainbow Edge:

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    Before opening:

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    Here is the pretty little thing from the "open end" of Roll 15:

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    Here is the coin from the "paper end" of Roll 15:

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    AnkurJAnkurJ Posts: 11,366 ✭✭✭✭
    Very purdy colors!
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    mdwoodsmdwoods Posts: 5,526 ✭✭✭
    Some really beautiful coins here. Plus it's a great education on rolls and roll toning. Thanks for sharing. I'd keep a few rolls intact if it were me. Maybe...
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    JJMJJM Posts: 7,982 ✭✭✭✭✭
    very image
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    johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 27,512 ✭✭✭✭✭
    there sure are some nice toners in there.
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    BullsitterBullsitter Posts: 5,340 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That was fun for me, it had to be a blast for you.

    Thanks for posting...image
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    sparky64sparky64 Posts: 7,026 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I can't get over the rainbow edge pics.
    So cool. image

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    jmski52jmski52 Posts: 22,380 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Thanks for the nice comments! But hey, it's only about half over.image

    I had some problems getting good pics on Monday, and then some of them wouldn't post - so maybe tonight's pics will do better.

    Roll 16 prior to opening:

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    This is Roll 16 as it was opened:

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    This is the coin from the "open end" of Roll 16:

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    This is the coin from the "paper end" of Roll 16:

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    Roll 17 prior to opening:

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    This is Roll 17 as it was opened:

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    This is the coin from the "open end" of Roll 17:

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    This is the coin from the "paper end" of Roll 17:

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    I've had these types of problems recently - for some reason the pics aren't showing up. They seem to resolve by themselves, but I haven't a clue. I'm still messing with Rolls 17 & 18. Grr.


    Roll 18 prior to opening:

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    This is Roll 18 as it was opened:

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    This is the coin from the "open end" of Roll 18:

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    This is the coin from the "paper end" of Roll 18:

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    Finally! Success.


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    kookoox10kookoox10 Posts: 538 ✭✭✭


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    Holy smokes, do you see what I see?? After all of the blinding displays of illumina, I just now caught the cool looking clash on the bridge of Roosevelt's nose. In front of his eye! I remember reading something about this on the Coneca website. Very cool my friend, well done!
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    jmski52jmski52 Posts: 22,380 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Holy smokes, do you see what I see?? After all of the blinding displays of illumina, I just now caught the cool looking clash on the bridge of Roosevelt's nose. In front of his eye! I remember reading something about this on the Coneca website. Very cool my friend, well done!

    Ah, I just thought that my eyes were getting tired and I totally ignored that die clash. I guess this means I'll have to start posting some of the other stuff that I did notice.image
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    TookybanditTookybandit Posts: 3,411 ✭✭✭✭
    Cool thread, thanks for sharing!!

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    pf70collectorpf70collector Posts: 6,504 ✭✭✭
    Beautiful. Love the toners.
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    ShamikaShamika Posts: 18,760 ✭✭✭✭
    Love it. Keep them coming.


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    CatbertCatbert Posts: 6,604 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'm really digging this thread. Please keep going and by all means post those coins too that have notable things going on!

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    mkman123mkman123 Posts: 6,849 ✭✭✭✭
    roll 5 had the best coin so far
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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Great thread with some nice coins... while I am not a tarnish aficionado, I do like those blast white Rosies.... I am surprised at some of the edge roll pictures, how some tarnish and others do not. Cheers, RickO
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    jmski52jmski52 Posts: 22,380 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Ricko, I figured that out. I think that the whole roll got edge toning in many cases. I have to shake the roll to get them out, and when I get the coins out of the roll the edges aren't all lined up like they were in the roll.

    More to come, but I have to squeeze this project in between real work. Maybe this afternoon.
    Q: Are You Printing Money? Bernanke: Not Literally

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    lcoopielcoopie Posts: 8,778 ✭✭✭✭✭
    have you found any MS66s or 67s?
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