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Re-imaged a highly detailed, sharp 1808 CBH

It is an O-109a (Graded AU53)

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  • coinnutcoinnut Posts: 1,433 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Nice and sharp with original crust. I like it. image
  • TPRCTPRC Posts: 3,814 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Great piece!

    Tom

  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,685 ✭✭✭✭✭
    As an AU-53, I'd say this coin is under graded. I'd go AU-58, and if it were not for the friction on Ms. Liberty's chin I'd go a Mint State grade. I can't tell about the luster from the photo, but the photo is very sharp.

    PCGS graded this one as an AU-53.

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  • ElcontadorElcontador Posts: 7,657 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Agree with Bill Jones, but I think the coin may have been net graded due to its being dark, if the image is true to its actual color.
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  • BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Nice details but net graded for subdued lackluster surfaces.
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  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,685 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Nice details but net graded for subdued lackluster surfaces. >>



    Coins with subdued luster can be graded MS-60 or 61. If there is no cartwheel luster left on this piece, then it is an AU.
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  • stevebensteveben Posts: 4,628 ✭✭✭✭✭
    it's a bit dark, but otherwise a very nice piece. good photos too!
  • Thanks for the comments! Nice 1807 Bill! The luster is subdued, but you can see where it remains. There is only the slightest of wear on the high points, but it seems that the wear may only have resulted in the removal of some of the oxidized surface. Yes I think this was net graded, but heck it helped me get it for less money...
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  • stmanstman Posts: 11,352 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I think I remember this 1808 from quite a while back. I believe Don Willis had it for sale and I almost bought it. Then, I think I seen it at auction at some point.
    Obviously it looks much better than an Au-53 as far as details are concerned. I always thought it was given that grade due to lack of luster. I like the coin quite a bit.
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  • astroratastrorat Posts: 9,221 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The surfaces look like the result of what some have termed "leather pouch" toning. Do you think that is the case with this coin? I agree it has excellent details, but the subdued luster probably cost the higher grade.
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  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,632 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That is a superb strike!
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  • sparky64sparky64 Posts: 7,041 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Excellent pic.
    And of course great coin. image

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  • thisnamztakenthisnamztaken Posts: 4,101 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Nice sharply struck coin. Detail looks 58; especially the reverse.. Perhaps the nose and chin abrasions caused the 53?
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  • JRoccoJRocco Posts: 14,277 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Not common to see the obverse clasp as well as the birds head and neck that strong on this design CBH.
    One or the other maybe, not usually both.
    That birds head/neck are a sight to see for sure.
    Nice coin.
    Some coins are just plain "Interesting"
  • lkeigwinlkeigwin Posts: 16,893 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Much improved images, Dave. And a very nice early turban with a strike about as nice as you can hope for. Congrats!
    Lance.


  • << <i>Excellent pic.
    And of course great coin. image >>



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  • Great piece.
    Let's try not to get upset.
  • Glad u all appreciate this piece. This came from Heritage several years ago, and I believe it may not appeal to all collectors because of the dark toning and subdued luster. But you guys seem to be proving me wrong. I love the coin for the detail which is so tough to find in these early halves.

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  • jayPemjayPem Posts: 4,082 ✭✭✭✭✭
    1808 is my favorite year for bust halves, I have all the die marriages now and all but two of the states....as I've mentioned before, shoot me a PM when you are ready to part with this sweetie ! The condition of this coin is outstanding ! I agree that it shouldn't be AU58 without booming luster, but do 200+ year old coins need to look brand new ?
    It's cool when they do, but it's equally cool when they look just like this one image

    Here's my 109a...Lance's excellent photo
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  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,632 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Glad u all appreciate this piece. This came from Heritage several years ago, and I believe it may not appeal to all collectors because of the dark toning and subdued luster. But you guys seem to be proving me wrong. I love the coin for the detail which is so tough to find in these early halves. >>



    Indeed. The detail is so strong I was tempted to ask if the coin had somehow been struck twice.
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  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 29,070 ✭✭✭✭✭
    nice pics all. i like that 1807 image
  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Very nice strike... that is a keeper... Cheers, RickO

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