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Gold Collectors whats the Darkest toned gold coin you've seen?

CoinZipCoinZip Posts: 3,253 ✭✭✭
I've read that Gold oxidizes slower than other metal types.......

I really have't seen any really dark or wild colored toning on gold. What's the darkest toned gold you've seen?

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  • BoosibriBoosibri Posts: 12,221 ✭✭✭✭✭
    JMB has a few nice ones...
  • bolivarshagnastybolivarshagnasty Posts: 7,351 ✭✭✭✭✭
    WL1957, Do you have to request the black Truview background when you have pics taken?
    BTW, I like the toned Indian!!! Great coin!!!
  • jmbjmb Posts: 594 ✭✭✭
    Here's two ....

    The image on the 1841-C does not do the coin justice. The 1851 looks exactly like the image in hand.

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  • SmEagle1795SmEagle1795 Posts: 2,178 ✭✭✭✭✭
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  • WingedLiberty1957WingedLiberty1957 Posts: 2,984 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Hello Bolivar,

    No, PCGS ONLY produces white background TrueView photos. I make those black background TrueViews from the white ones. I will give you a tip, if you start with the MAX resolution TrueView, the final image will be much sharper. This is because PCGS uses very aggressive (lower quality) JPG compression on their 1100 x 555 web optimized size. If you start with the Max resolution TrueView, cut out the coins in any good graphics package, fix any slight rotation issues, then shrink the coin down to a size roughly 535 x 535, you can lay those onto the black background template, and then save as a JPG using a higher quality compression (I like using a quality of 90%) -- by doing that you can create an image that actually looks better (sharper) than PCGS's heavily compressed white background 1100 x 555 sized image.

    There is also a very fast technique to convert white background TrueView photos directly to black background that was put forth by CU member MessyDesk, however with that method you have to stick with the heavily compressed images. And I think there are some artifacts around the outside of the coins, after you are done. You will need to search the archives for that technique.

    I like my technique better ... it produces a better quality image ... but it takes more time to produce.
  • RYKRYK Posts: 35,798 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Here are a couple:

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    Um, how many examples do you need? image
  • stevebensteveben Posts: 4,620 ✭✭✭✭✭
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  • SaorAlbaSaorAlba Posts: 7,573 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The darkest toned gold coin that I own:

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    Scottish Noble from 1588.
    Tir nam beann, nan gleann, s'nan gaisgeach ~ Saorstat Albanaich a nis!
  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I've read that Gold oxidizes slower than other metal types.. >>



    Remember, gold does not oxidize... the alloyed metals will, and dirt/crud/oils will accumulate in crevices and devices. Cheers, RickO
  • stevebensteveben Posts: 4,620 ✭✭✭✭✭
    there's a lot of nice gold in this thread! can you imagine walking up to a table at a show and seeing all this in there at the same time? which one do you ask to see first? :-)
  • jwittenjwitten Posts: 5,211 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Old thread, but how's this for dark gold?

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Boosibri.... that is, without a doubt, the ugliest gold coin I have ever seen.... not sure what kind of crud is on the surface, but, if mine, it would be removed. Cheers, RickO

  • mt_mslamt_msla Posts: 815 ✭✭✭✭

    @shish I want that coin!

    Insert witicism here. [ xxx ]

  • BoosibriBoosibri Posts: 12,221 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ricko said:
    @Boosibri.... that is, without a doubt, the ugliest gold coin I have ever seen.... not sure what kind of crud is on the surface, but, if mine, it would be removed. Cheers, RickO

    Not even the doctor that made that coin could love it.

  • oih82w8oih82w8 Posts: 12,350 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 28, 2017 3:57AM

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  • jwittenjwitten Posts: 5,211 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Boosibri said:

    @jwitten said:
    Old thread, but how's this for dark gold?

    That is one of the ugliest gold coins I have seen. Surprised it is straight graded.

    I like it because it is unique. Sure, it is not pretty toning like some of my others, but it sure is the darkest toned gold out there. I still don't understand why you think every one of my coins are doctored, when you like everyone else's.

  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,255 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I can't match that 1854 quarter eagle for darkness, but here is a piece I passed on because it was so dark that it looked like a piece of copper. This 1838-C half eagle was in a PCGS EF-40 holder. I really wanted to fill that slot in my collection, and the price would have been a lot less than the coin I did put in my set, but it didn't look like gold. It looked like some sort of copper pattern coin.

    My pictures make this coin look lighter than it was in hand. The coin looked like a piece of brown copper.


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  • skier07skier07 Posts: 4,061 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @BillJones said:
    I can't match that 1854 quarter eagle for darkness, but here is a piece I passed on because it was so dark that it looked like a piece of copper. This 1838-C half eagle was in a PCGS EF-40 holder. I really wanted to fill that slot in my collection, and the price would have been a lot less than the coin I did put in my set, but it didn't look like gold. It looked like some sort of copper pattern coin.

    My pictures make this coin look lighter than it was in hand. The coin looked like a piece of brown copper.


    That looks like a nice coin. At least it doesn't have the shiny brass look to it.

  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,255 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It was a nice coin, I thought long and hard about passing on it, but in the end I knew that I would not be happy with it.

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  • BoosibriBoosibri Posts: 12,221 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jwitten said:

    @Boosibri said:

    @jwitten said:
    Old thread, but how's this for dark gold?

    That is one of the ugliest gold coins I have seen. Surprised it is straight graded.

    I like it because it is unique. Sure, it is not pretty toning like some of my others, but it sure is the darkest toned gold out there. I still don't understand why you think every one of my coins are doctored, when you like everyone else's.

    I'm not trying to give you a hard time, honestly. I don't comment on many of the gold threads anymore because I don't like the coins and I'm not trying to rain on peoples parade. I didn't respond to this post thinking that you owned that coin, sorry.

    I have spent the last decade trying to buy original and A quality circulated rare gold. You have to ask how did the coin which is stuck in a non-reactive metal acquire vibrant (or black?) toning. Many patterns are consistent and generally serve as good testaments to unmessed with coloration. Vibrant coloration around the edge of a gold coin is just a no go for me. Perhaps it is because series like Indians do tone that way and I am just not in tune to that series but I still don't know of the natural method which causes that process to occur and have seen many AT coins that look just like that. Just because a TPG grades it doesn't make it unmessed with.

  • stevebensteveben Posts: 4,620 ✭✭✭✭✭

    that 54 looks like it was in a fire to me.

  • jwittenjwitten Posts: 5,211 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @steveben said:
    that 54 looks like it was in a fire to me.

    That could be a possibility. Only the obverse is black, the reverse is normal.

  • stevebensteveben Posts: 4,620 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jwitten weird! i wasn't expecting the reverse to look like that. maybe it was in a vault that was opened with a blow torch...who knows!

  • mvs7mvs7 Posts: 1,662 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I don't have anything that I'd consider "dark" toning, but do have several that have nicer "medium" toning.

  • LakesammmanLakesammman Posts: 17,409 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Here's the darkest one I own.

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  • YorkshiremanYorkshireman Posts: 4,583 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 29, 2017 8:35AM

    This may be my coin "pride & joy".

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  • jwittenjwitten Posts: 5,211 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Yorkshireman said:
    This may be my coin "pride & joy".

    Beautiful!

  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,353 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 19, 2019 12:13AM

    @shish said:

    Bump.

    Now that’s what I call a holder!

    Just ran across this again tonight and have to say it's awesome :)

  • Namvet69Namvet69 Posts: 9,074 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It would be interesting to test some of the dark gold with that high tech gizmo to see what other metals are present. They're all nice cause they're real. Peace Roy

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