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Heads up..counterfeit NAZI bars

OPAOPA Posts: 17,121 ✭✭✭✭✭
listed in eBay. (All alleged NAZI silver bars, are fantasy bars produced in the US ... NAZI Germany did not produce them for sale)

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"Bongo drive 1984 Lincoln that looks like old coin dug from ground."

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  • mkman123mkman123 Posts: 6,849 ✭✭✭✭
    I never believed these to be actual german nazi bars, looks like people are faking them. I'm telling you, only a matter of time or maybe JM and Engelhard old pours are already being faked.....not very hard to do I bet
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  • OPAOPA Posts: 17,121 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Click the below link, for a "heads - up" on these fake bars.

    write up on fake Nazi bars
    "Bongo drive 1984 Lincoln that looks like old coin dug from ground."
  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Just no end to the scams and crooks today..... Cheers, RickO
  • The Germans have always produced things with great attention to quality and detail.

    I do not own any Nazi bars and do not plan to. But the poor workmanship on that fake bar is such a red flag. These guys marched with precision and uniforms perfectly pressed and nothing ever out of order. And some folks believe the sloppy stamping and poor quality fonts on that bar resemble the real deal? My stomach hurts from laughing at that horrible counterfeit.

    Thanks for issuing the warning OPA.

    Cheers

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  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,140 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Anyone have a pic of a real Nazi silver bar or gold bar? I'm curious as to what they look like.

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  • OPAOPA Posts: 17,121 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Anyone have a pic of a real Nazi silver bar or gold bar? I'm curious as to what they look like. >>



    image

    I don't believe that there are any left in existence. The above partial gold bar is the best I can do.

    All the Nazi gold, silver & platinum loot that was located by the "Western Allies", was subsequently returned to the different Central European Banks from where the loot originated.
    "Bongo drive 1984 Lincoln that looks like old coin dug from ground."
  • tneigtneig Posts: 1,505 ✭✭✭
    Apparently in this market of various reproductions and bootlegged designs, it doesn't matter as long as there is a potential market,
    that may like it as a collectible, and of course its real metal.
    COA
  • OPAOPA Posts: 17,121 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>and of course its real metal. >>



    Perhaps, but what type of metal. I have my doubt that it's all silver.
    "Bongo drive 1984 Lincoln that looks like old coin dug from ground."
  • Some brief detective work grants another glaring giveaway.

    The price of silver in 1939 was $0.36. This bar weights 1.20 oz for value of $0.43.

    Conversion rate of Reichsmark to US Dollar in 1939 was 2.49 with 7.36 Reichsmark valuation of $18.33.

    But the 7.36 stamping sure looks good.

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  • piecesofmepiecesofme Posts: 6,669 ✭✭✭
    I'm telling you, only a matter of time or maybe JM and Engelhard old pours are already being faked.....not very hard to do I bet

    then that would make the real ones worth more, right? image
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  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,140 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I'm telling you, only a matter of time or maybe JM and Engelhard old pours are already being faked.....not very hard to do I bet

    then that would make the real ones worth more, right? image >>



    Not really. People who don't have confidence in their ability to differentiate the good from the bad will avoid all of them.

    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
    "Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
    "Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire

  • OPAOPA Posts: 17,121 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>I'm telling you, only a matter of time or maybe JM and Engelhard old pours are already being faked.....not very hard to do I bet

    then that would make the real ones worth more, right? image >>



    Not really. People who don't have confidence in their ability to differentiate the good from the bad will avoid all of them. >>



    Unfortunately, that would only apply to a small % of bullion buyers. The majority of PM eBay buyers, have no clue when it comes to fake bars.image
    "Bongo drive 1984 Lincoln that looks like old coin dug from ground."
  • mkman123mkman123 Posts: 6,849 ✭✭✭✭
    Maybe a company will come along and grade bars imageD: hahaha
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  • OPAOPA Posts: 17,121 ✭✭✭✭✭
    eBay Nuked the auction .. they've had lots of experience in nuking these fake US made "Nazi fantasy" bars.
    "Bongo drive 1984 Lincoln that looks like old coin dug from ground."
  • WeissWeiss Posts: 9,941 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Don't know who's worse: the people who make these fake bars or the people who want to own them.
    We are like children who look at print and see a serpent in the last letter but one, and a sword in the last.
    --Severian the Lame
  • scotty1419scotty1419 Posts: 928 ✭✭✭
    As a ww2 collector, I've never seen or heard of an actual bar.

    They dont exist...
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