Who won tonights debate POLL
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Who won tonights debate?
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<< <i>How about a "show me the results" option for those of us who didn't watch the debates ? >>
survey says: 21 for Romney 1 for Obama 1 draw
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<< <i>Wall St. won the debate. Big government was outsmarted. >>
You beat me to it!
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I agree, BO got his head handed to him and didn't know what to do with it. But remember as I said in the initial post, this is just the first battle in this war. Worst thing Romney ccould do right now is start talking smack. He should be modest and just say something like, I just pointed out things some people may have not known, forgotten about, or paid close attention to these last 4 years....and that's what i'll continue to do.
But in all fairness, I do agree with BO on one point. Romney had better start being more specific in his plans. Saying you're willing to reach across the aisle is not going to be good enough if that's all he's said by 11/6. BO has laid out his plan(s), and it really sounds like more of the same and has been proven not to be successful. Romney needs to realize that by being more specific is a huge opportunity for him, and pound the message home with details.
Total Votes: 45
Obama
3 (votes) 6.67 (%)
Romney
38 (votes) 84.44 (%)
It was a dead draw, both countered the other very effectively
4 (votes) 8.89 (%)
Oh, I forgot to ask...How's that thrill in your leg, Chris?
<< <i>What debate? >>
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Ali used the rope-a-dope strategy very successfully. I can't help but wonder if the Obama was sandbagging.
If he was giving it his best performance then I am completely bewildered how he ever got elected in the first place. 8th grade level performance by the leader of the free world. I previously gave him credit for being brighter than he appeared.
The next debate will cement whether or not Romney will be elected.
It's not how you start, it's how you finish. I am keeping my fingers crossed.
No matter what side of the fence you are on you REALLY have to WONDER what station/debate those whom think "OH"man won were watching.
Kind of makes you say Hmmm?
These guys promise so many changes and reforms it makes your head spin.
Then after 4 years in office, nothing has basically been done.
Why waste your time?
I'm now one of the many in the 'non-voting' group of citizens who can easily be criticized for their apathetic views and actions (non-actions?) but one man does not run the US.
Wall Street does and has for many years now (probably since Reagan).
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<< <i>I stopped watching the debates many years ago.
These guys promise so many changes and reforms it makes your head spin.
Then after 4 years in office, nothing has basically been done.
Why waste your time?
I'm now one of the many in the 'non-voting' group of citizens who can easily be criticized for their apathetic views and actions (non-actions?) but one man does not run the US.
Wall Street does and has for many years now (probably since Reagan). >>
Do you not know what an executive order is, and who has been utilizing them, it's been One man.
Do you happen to know One man whom appointed two confirmed extreme leftists to the Supreme Court.
Can you name the One man who appointed a slew of leftist anti American business/citizens pukes to head our Federal Agencies.
Sticking ear plugs in the ears and wearing blinders thus creating a self afflicted zombism is not a solution but a serious part of the problem. Its less work, its easy to do, but its not good for the individual or the Country.
Its called detrmination to continue to fight for the best we can get at the time. It is a brave person that when the chips are down they pick themselves up and try try again. This is not the time to throw up our hands, but to snatch up the standard and move solidly forward, to keep moving forward, and not let our flanks be turned. To Encourage ourselves in the face of seeming unmitigated failures and disappointments is the highest calling of the human race.
It doesn't matter who won the debate. All the minorities, all the people on public assistance, all the illegals, and
all the intelligent educators (who lack any common sense), will still vote for Obama. Me? I'm voting for the American.
<< <i>Beware the next debate,
Ali used the rope-a-dope strategy very successfully. I can't help but wonder if the Obama was sandbagging.
If he was giving it his best performance then I am completely bewildered how he ever got elected in the first place. 8th grade level performance by the leader of the free world. I previously gave him credit for being brighter than he appeared.
The next debate will cement whether or not Romney will be elected.
It's not how you start, it's how you finish. I am keeping my fingers crossed. >>
The man behind the curtain is not Obama. The man in front of the curtain is Obama.
<< <i>Current results for thos who couldn't watch. Sorry about not having a non-vote view, I just though everyone could've at least recorded it at least in this day & age. >>
I could have watched, but chose not to. I'll watch the remaining debates only if my candidate is allowed to participate.
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<< <i>I'm going to write in Ron Paul. The only truly honest politician who has been in this race.... >>
I like RP and have taken surveys where I ended up "like" RP...but does he have a snow-balls chance in... Smoetimes a conscience vote is not as bright as a smart one. But what do I know.
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<< <i>I stopped watching the debates many years ago.
These guys promise so many changes and reforms it makes your head spin.
Then after 4 years in office, nothing has basically been done.
Why waste your time?
I'm now one of the many in the 'non-voting' group of citizens who can easily be criticized for their apathetic views and actions (non-actions?) but one man does not run the US.
Wall Street does and has for many years now (probably since Reagan). >>
Do you not know what an executive order is, and who has been utilizing them, it's been One man.
Do you happen to know One man whom appointed two confirmed extreme leftists to the Supreme Court.
Can you name the One man who appointed a slew of leftist anti American business/citizens pukes to head our Federal Agencies.
Sticking ear plugs in the ears and wearing blinders thus creating a self afflicted zombism is not a solution but a serious part of the problem. Its less work, its easy to do, but its not good for the individual or the Country.
Its called detrmination to continue to fight for the best we can get at the time. It is a brave person that when the chips are down they pick themselves up and try try again. This is not the time to throw up our hands, but to snatch up the standard and move solidly forward, to keep moving forward, and not let our flanks be turned. To Encourage ourselves in the face of seeming unmitigated failures and disappointments is the highest calling of the human race. >>
I get what you're saying.
I just don't have faith in both leaders (or should I say 'puppets').
As for my apathetic nature, I wouldn't be so apathetic if someone like Ron Paul was running.
Probably he is the only one who would 'try' to change the system, whether or not he'd be successful, we'll never know.
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If anything was won last night if might be the "undecideds". Both parties are entrenched too deep in their own ideology. I see Obama '08 bumper stickers and '12 bumper stickers on the same cars ((precious pious Priuses (mostly) LOL) and the Romney lawn signs now on the same lawns that had McCain in '08.
How relevant are TV debates? I used to be glued to these but not anymore, I didn't vote here only because I didn't watch.
Like "streeter" stated it only matters how they finish. And there will still be more rounds to "debate".
<< <i>I stopped watching the debates many years ago.
These guys promise so many changes and reforms it makes your head spin.
Then after 4 years in office, nothing has basically been done.
Why waste your time?
I'm now one of the many in the 'non-voting' group of citizens who can easily be criticized for their apathetic views and actions (non-actions?) but one man does not run the US.
Wall Street does and has for many years now (probably since Reagan). >>
I'm 99.9% in agreement with you. However, the Ruling Class wants you to be apathetic. They want you to not vote. They want fewer engaged voters and more entitled voters to keep them in power. I dred they day they are the majority. THEY (Ruling Class) never saw the Tea Party movement coming. The TP have constituted the greatest voter change in my lifetime. I've never seen so many reacquaint themselves to our founding documents and principles. It's a movement that the Media attacks...because it's viable. It's a movement that polls don't track because it doesn't fit their narrative. You don't have to be part of the Tea Party to be disenfranchised. It's all the PEOPLE in the middle who do not fit in the far right and far left politics of the day. Paraphrasing Obama, the TP are the one's we've been waiting for (in 2012.)
<< <i>Wow, take away the spin meisters, the teleprompter, speech writers and edited transcripts and you get to see the man behind the curtain live and without handlers...hummmmmmmm. Wonder how the msm will be able to spin this to make it look good; maybe they'll get some direction from the WH. >>
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<< <i>It doesn't matter who won the debate. All the minorities, all the people on public assistance, all the illegals, and
all the intelligent educators (who lack any common sense), will still vote for Obama. Me? I'm voting for the American. >>
President Obama looked like he did not want to be there.
The President's life experience is probably almost 100% devoid of having to engage in any substantive, public, one on one, open, uncontrolled, free flowing, level playing field discussion or debate with a person who disagrees with him.
His body language and facial expressions communicated that he was not comfortable and wanted the debate to be over. President Obama did not and could not control the narrative nor what was said during the 90 minutes both men were standing at the podium.
Regardless of how the election is reported on by the media (i.e. it is close, Obama has a lead, etc.), it is unmistakable that many people in the country, regardless of political party affiliation, are not happy with the bad economy. Presidents get blamed for bad economies and get credit for good economies, deserved or not. Thus many people are not happy with the current administration and President Obama. Polls can be flawed for many reasons, including the persons being polled not telling the truth. Dissatisfaction with the current administration will show on election day and President Obama may very well lose the election.
He may have doubts about his chances even now, a month before the election. If it becomes a reality that President Obama will not be reelected, watch out for what happens in the final months of his presidency. Executive orders, pardons and other exercises of presidential power under circumstances of behind the scenes "quid pro quo" will be rampant and more extreme and excessive than what has taken place in prior administrations. I wonder what gifts and surprises the people in the Obama administration will leave in or around the White House and other buildings they currently occupy when they leave in January, 2013 or in January, 2017?
One other thing:
I am looking forward to seeing the Vice Presidential debate between Vice President Biden and Mr. Ryan. Biden is a loose cannon and you never know what will come out of his mouth. Could be very entertaining on top of informative.
<< <i>Romney won.
President Obama looked like he did not want to be there.
The President's life experience is probably almost 100% devoid of having to engage in any substantive, public, one on one, open, uncontrolled, free flowing, level playing field discussion or debate with a person who disagrees with him.
...level playing field...
THIS.
Dear Leader wants US sheeple to play on a fictitious "level playing field" but he himself can't handle it.
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These guys promise so many changes and reforms it makes your head spin.
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Romney's going to eliminate the deficit!
I heard it!
Obama only wants to reduce it.
(neither side mentioned the war continuing to add to the deficit and how the deficit really can't be tackled without closing out the war.)
negative points for both sides for lying through omission, but more negatives to Romney for promising to eliminate the deficit without a direct mention of the war in the next sentence.
<< <i>It doesn't matter who won the debate. All the minorities, all the people on public assistance, all the illegals, and
all the intelligent educators (who lack any common sense), will still vote for Obama. Me? I'm voting for the American. >>
Don't forget about the people who work for PBS...they are all democrats now too.
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<< <i>It doesn't matter who won the debate. All the minorities, all the people on public assistance, all the illegals, and
all the intelligent educators (who lack any common sense), will still vote for Obama. Me? I'm voting for the American. >>
Don't forget about the people who work for PBS...they are all democrats now too. >>
I'm sure Juan Williams cares.
There is a little too much Romney excitement in this thread. He did well last night its true , but his version of foot in mouth disease tends to strike without warning
<< <i>What were those 8 people that voted watching that saw the debate as even? >>
...not to mention the 4 that think BO won...LMAO.
The plain and simple truth is that Obama got slam-dunked last night, despite taking up 4+ minutes more time than Romney, I might add. The liberal apologists are trying to come up with every excuse possible for his abject failure... "He wasn't acclimated to the altitude"..."Romney bullied the moderator"... gimme a break. You didn't even need to have the sound turned up to figure out who was winning the debate; a simple look at body language and gesturing was enough. Romney kept almost constant eye contact with his opponent, he was energized, quick on the draw, enthused, aggressive and handily responded to/refuted the incorrect statements/stats/etc. BO threw his way. Obama on the other hand seemed defensive, irritated, and uncomfortable being there; he stammered, kept repeating the same talking points, he kept looking down, hardly made eye contact, snapped at Jim Lehrer about moving on to the next question and how "I still had 5 seconds before you interrupted me" ...but then proceeded to talk another minute plus...
That said, at the next debate I would think that we most assuredly won't see this same Obama again; his handlers will drill and rehearse him to death to avoid another drubbing. Romney OTOH needs to not become overconfident, stay on point and on message, and show middle America that the leftist spin against him was nothing more than just that.
Romney's adversaries underestimated him, big time, prior to this debate... but if they're smart they won't do it again.
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The media will ride to the rescue and make something out of nothing to make Romney look bad..... then loop it every 30 mins on TV.
Vice President Biden is a moron ....... Mr. Ryan is going to make him look silly.
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<< <i>Vice President Biden is a moron ....... Mr. Ryan is going to make him look silly. >>
I'm not sure if Biden played "president for a week" if he could stand up to ryan.
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