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  • renman95renman95 Posts: 7,037 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I live in Minot, ND which is 2 hours away from the Bakken area where the boom is taking place. We have always been in a bubble when it came to the economy. ND is readying for a 2 billion dollar surplus. I work in the gas and oil business and I have talked to quite a few people from EVERYWHERE. I just cannot fathom having to leave my family for months at a time just to support them. I applaud them and feel for them at the same time. I only wish everyone could take advantage of our situation up here. >>



    A vote for the "energy" candidate sounds like boomlets will occur throughout the country.
  • gsa1fangsa1fan Posts: 5,566 ✭✭✭
    when next one?
    Avid collector of GSA's.
  • cladkingcladking Posts: 28,636 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>A quote worth passing along (author unknown):

    "The danger to America is not Barack Obama but a citizenry capable
    of entrusting an inexperienced man like him with the Presidency. It will be far
    easier to limit and undo the follies of an Obama presidency than to restore the
    necessary common sense and good judgment to a depraved electorate willing to
    have such a man for their president. The problem is much deeper and far more
    serious than Mr. Obama, who is a mere symptom of what ails America . Blaming the
    prince of the fools should not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools
    that made him their prince. The Republic can survive a Barack Obama. It is less
    likely to survive a multitude of Idiots such as those who made him their
    president." >>



    We have a failed educational system founded on a total lack of responsibility and the unwillingness
    to hurt anyone's feelings. The citizenry voting for Obama is a product of this educational system. The
    citizenry voted for those who caused this to happen and the only competition to Obama is and has
    been the same.

    The republic once flew on two wings but both wings were broken long ago. People must wake up and
    hold everyone responsibnle for actions and outcomes. Currently no one is responsible except for pro-
    fessed beliefs which must be politically correct. Beliefs are irrelevant. Outcomes are what matter. If
    a politician can't do a simple thing like seeing that billions of dollars actually results in kids learning to
    read and write then he must be booted.
    Tempus fugit.
  • telephoto1telephoto1 Posts: 4,892 ✭✭✭✭✭
    If Romney wins, PMs might still rise somewhat IMO as we still have a big hole from which we must extricate ourselves. This won't get fixed overnight.

    RIP Mom- 1932-2012
  • bronco2078bronco2078 Posts: 10,211 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Both of them will keep digging the hole deeper. Neither will do anything to fix the economy if it would hurt their masters.


    I think whichever sockpuppet wins PM's continue up.
  • derrybderryb Posts: 36,790 ✭✭✭✭✭
    FED policy currently drives the dollar index and therefore spot prices. While a new chairman is always a possibility do not look for the stimulus, interest rate or dollar policy to change any time soon, regardless of what face shows up at the news conferences.

    "Interest rates, the price of money, are the most important market. And, perversely, they’re the market that’s most manipulated by the Fed." - Doug Casey

  • piecesofmepiecesofme Posts: 6,669 ✭✭✭
    <<<We have a failed educational system founded on a total lack of responsibility and the unwillingness
    to hurt anyone's feelings. The citizenry voting for Obama is a product of this educational system. The
    citizenry voted for those who caused this to happen and the only competition to Obama is and has
    been the same.>>>

    Harsh, but true. As a Nation, we've allowed ourselves to be dumbed-down. Part of the result of that is 35 year olds still living at home, I'm talking about the ones who've never left home.
    To forgive is to free a prisoner, and to discover that prisoner was you.
  • piecesofmepiecesofme Posts: 6,669 ✭✭✭
    Jimmy Fallon joke:
    Ryan said that he expects Biden to come after him like a cannonball.
    Bidens excited response to that was, there's going to be a pool there? image
    To forgive is to free a prisoner, and to discover that prisoner was you.
  • tneigtneig Posts: 1,505 ✭✭✭
    The next four or eight years won't fix things. We don't even know what the fix is, because its so complex a balance..
    I would hope that debt/def is addressed more, instead of more printing.
    And hopeully, the things that replace the parts we have now, don't make it worst. What are the odds?

    As far as the "thriller in Mynilla" tonight don't over anticipate.
    If it gets boring, switch to Dexter. There's more blood.

    Its lunch time, go buy some PMs... Theres a slight dip.
    COA
  • derrybderryb Posts: 36,790 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Dexter it is.

    "Interest rates, the price of money, are the most important market. And, perversely, they’re the market that’s most manipulated by the Fed." - Doug Casey



  • "The price of Apathy towards public affairs is to be ruled by evil men". Plato
    NumbersUsa, FairUs, Alipac, CapsWeb, and TeamAmericaPac
  • derrybderryb Posts: 36,790 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>"The price of Apathy towards public affairs is to be ruled by evil men". Plato >>


    "Choosing the lesser of two evils still gives you evil" - Derry.

    There are other choices.

    "Interest rates, the price of money, are the most important market. And, perversely, they’re the market that’s most manipulated by the Fed." - Doug Casey

  • Biden is giving out swag bags to reporters, booze included. They'll need it after Biden butchers all later.
    "I'm dropping my standards so that I can buy more"
  • OperationButterOperationButter Posts: 1,672 ✭✭✭
    Thought this was pretty interesting. NOTE I have not checked all facts.



    In 1887 Alexander Tyler, a Scottish history professor at the
    University of Edinburgh, had this to say about the fall of the
    Athenian Republic some 2,000 years prior: "A democracy is always
    temporary in nature; it simply cannot exist as a permanent
    form of government. A democracy will continue to exist up until
    the time that voters discover that they can vote themselves generous
    gifts from the public treasury. >From that moment on, the majority
    always votes for the candidates who promise the most benefits from
    the public treasury, with the result that every democracy will finally
    collapse over loose fiscal policy, (which is) always followed by a
    dictatorship."

    "The average age of the world's greatest civilizations from the
    beginning of history, has been about 200 years. During those 200
    years, these nations always progressed through the following sequence:

    From bondage to spiritual faith;
    From spiritual faith to great courage;
    From courage to liberty;
    From liberty to abundance;
    From abundance to complacency;
    From complacency to apathy;
    From apathy to dependence;
    From dependence back into bondage."
    The Obituary follows:

    Born 1776, Died 2012
    It doesn't hurt to read this several times.
    Professor Joseph Olson of Hamline University School of Law in
    St. Paul, Minnesota, points out some interesting facts concerning
    the last Presidential election:

    Number of States won by: Obama: 19 McCain: 29
    Square miles of land won by: Obama: 580,000 McCain: 2,427,000
    Population of counties won by: Obama: 127 million McCain: 143 million
    Murder rate per 100,000 residents in counties won by: Obama: 13.2 McCain: 2.1

    Professor Olson adds: "In aggregate, the map of the territory
    McCain won was mostly the land owned by the taxpaying citizens
    of the country.

    Obama territory mostly encompassed those citizens living in low
    income tenements and living off various forms of government
    welfare..."

    Olson believes the United States is now somewhere between the
    "complacency and apathy" phase of Professor Tyler's definition of
    democracy, with some forty percent of the nation's population
    already having reached the "governmental dependency" phase.


    To relate this to PM's, if we are at the dependency phase where does it leave the PM markets.
    Gold is for savings. Fiat is for transactions.



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  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 33,012 ✭✭✭✭✭
    If the Dems want to win, they need to go on the attack like Romney did. They need to come out with "that hurts ____ here is our plan _____" or they will just get continued to get buried in the debate debacle that is their own making.


    The Reps just need to keep offering what is wrong and how they will fix it with some why the Dems are wrong as lead off for everything.

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