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Hello,
It's been a while since I've run across a Buffalo Nickel on e-bay that I was willing to go large to acquire. This one being raw along with not ever dealing with this seller before really made it hard to pull the trigger, but I poured over this coin for quite a long time before doing so. I down loaded the sellers images to my photo album and edited it every which way I could and it always passed the test, so I took a chance and got very aggressive with my bid, I won this beauty for less than you would imagine IF your familiar with the Buffalo Nickel series.
The 1918-P is a very tough coin in gem or better, all kinds of problems plagued the 1918 Buffs mainly from planchet lamination. At any rate I just received this one today and I couldn't be more pleased. Thanks for taking the time to look and all comments are more than welcome as always....All the best....Joe
It's been a while since I've run across a Buffalo Nickel on e-bay that I was willing to go large to acquire. This one being raw along with not ever dealing with this seller before really made it hard to pull the trigger, but I poured over this coin for quite a long time before doing so. I down loaded the sellers images to my photo album and edited it every which way I could and it always passed the test, so I took a chance and got very aggressive with my bid, I won this beauty for less than you would imagine IF your familiar with the Buffalo Nickel series.
The 1918-P is a very tough coin in gem or better, all kinds of problems plagued the 1918 Buffs mainly from planchet lamination. At any rate I just received this one today and I couldn't be more pleased. Thanks for taking the time to look and all comments are more than welcome as always....All the best....Joe
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"Look up, old boy, and see what you get." -William Bonney.
the reverse is to me exceptionally strong for early year buff's
the obverse even though not that detailed in hair...liberty is as crisp and strong as an early buff can get
i like how even the fields are too in which look to be laced with that matte proof type of pebbling
sweet buff my friend
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<< <i>Extremely nice Joe. Isn't that herd getting a little too big to handle? Better send it here. >>
Another really beautiful Buffalo, Joe.
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Looks original.Outstanding strike! I bet PCGS would grade that an MS66.
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I really like it and am always excited to see fine examples from what is likely my favorite series.
As others have said, and I agree, is that the reverse is especially 'striking'- with a very strong strike.
One of the little indicators I like is the visualization of the forked tail tip...
This one is sharp and strong with great color too! Thanks for sharing and
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Just look at that reverse and this is behind plastic...
but enough resubmits raw...ya never know
believe me...take no offense in my comment
with any luck here...it might grab some deeper grade insights on learning...not only for me
i love buffs
don't know the specific's of year/date issues envolved
just asking humbly here...you ol krazy hound dawg
This one is mine in a PCGS 65 holder. Compare the Indian's hair knot and detail on the bison's head/back/tail with your coin. I favor the strike on my coin, but the luster on your piece is fantastic and let's face it: luster/finish gets the nod over strike from the graders in my experience. Your coin shows a lot of promise!
For some education, here are some Really terrific remarks on my coin from Mark Hooton, who I sadly haven't seen around here in a while:
"Middle die state, to late middle die state, with a great deal of die erosion through the hair, face, and neck of the Indian, also near the rims (obverse and reverse) and in the peripheral areas of the reverse devices. Soft on the high points, and the obverse idde had been lapped once or so, as the tip of the long feather is not as raised from the field as it can be. You'll also note that lapping has made LIBERTY less bold than the reverse lettering, which show signs of swelling (heat + die erosion). A coin that could have a lot of luster, but the die erosion has likely disrupted many of the flow lines that would lead to a great cartwheel. The carbon is minor, but noticeable. I'd call it a 65, max, but could go either direction from that, depending on the way the wind is blowing when it gets graded again. I might try cracking it and giving it a mild and quick dip before re-submission."
<< <i>What is the rectangular looking thing below the jaw on Joe's coin? >>
Chin whiskers. Die clash from the E Pluribus Unum from the reverse. You can also see the effect of the Chief's jaw on the reverse at EPU.
Here's another example on one of mine (one of these days, we should start a thread of chin whisker Buffs and see how many different dates we can find):
If you look closely at Joe's coin, what is very cool is you can see the P and the L in Pluribus next to the Chief's neck and you can see the corresponding vertical line of the Indian's neck next to the Pluribus on the reverse.
"Look up, old boy, and see what you get." -William Bonney.
It's clear this gentleman knows his way around the Buffalo Nickel series, but I have some concerns. First off , I sure don't know what the heck he's talking about when it comes to the "tip of the long feather" not being raised from the field? What in the heck does he want I ask you? Looks just fine to me..... And this part!!....."I might try cracking it and giving it a mild and quick dip before re-submission." This HURTS the coin in my opinion....
On this coin I'm showing here the luster is very strong, near booming, the coin is boldly struck for the date that along with the lack of blemishes brings me to my decision. And I would like to thank all who has participated on this particular coin as it has been educational for me as some of you guy's and gal's are pretty Sharp on this wonderful series that I find so enjoyable.
<< <i>that dot behind cents might hold it back from 66 land
but enough resubmits raw...ya never know
believe me...take no offense in my comment
with any luck here...it might grab some deeper grade insights on learning...not only for me
i love buffs
don't know the specific's of year/date issues envolved
just asking humbly here...you ol krazy hound dawg >>
That little dot your your talking about appears to be a carbon spot but I'm not so sure as it looks as if I could just flip it off, but not me pal
<< <i>I can't grade these, don't know the series. but after reading the how you acquired it story and upon seeing the phenom pics I must say i absolutely love it, even I am excited about it. >>
I love to purchase Buffs raw!! I love the series and the more you dive into it the more ya feel comfortabe buying raw. It's a teasure hunt for me and a whole heck of a lotta fun. Thank you for your comments bud....Joe
<< <i>Middle die state, to late middle die state, with a great deal of die erosion through the hair, face, and neck of the Indian, also near the rims (obverse and reverse) and in the peripheral areas of the reverse devices. Soft on the high points, and the obverse idde had been lapped once or so, as the tip of the long feather is not as raised from the field as it can be. You'll also note that lapping has made LIBERTY less bold than the reverse lettering, which show signs of swelling (heat + die erosion). A coin that could have a lot of luster, but the die erosion has likely disrupted many of the flow lines that would lead to a great cartwheel. The carbon is minor, but noticeable. I'd call it a 65, max, but could go either direction from that, depending on the way the wind is blowing when it gets graded again. I might try cracking it and giving it a mild and quick dip before re-submission."
It's clear this gentleman knows his way around the Buffalo Nickel series, but I have some concerns. First off , I sure don't know what the heck he's talking about when it comes to the "tip of the long feather" not being raised from the field? What in the heck does he want I ask you? Looks just fine to me..... And this part!!....."I might try cracking it and giving it a mild and quick dip before re-submission." This HURTS the coin in my opinion....
On this coin I'm showing here the luster is very strong, near booming, the coin is boldly struck for the date that along with the lack of blemishes brings me to my decision. And I would like to thank all who has participated on this particular coin as it has been educational for me as some of you guy's and gal's are pretty Sharp on this wonderful series that I find so enjoyable. >>
Joe, here's what I think Hoot means by the "tip of the long feather." Look at how the feather is raised from the field on this coin in NGC MS66. When he was appraising my coin (which wound up PCGS MS65), he spied this weakness, among others, and hinted there are graders who notice such things. The luster on your piece may very well compensate for this, and hopefully will draw the MS66 you're looking for.
Incidentally, I doubt the carbon spot near "cents" that was alluded to earlier would be much of a factor in holding this back from 66. It's just too darned incidental. Things like this might hold a 67 candidate back to 66, but wouldn't hold a 66 back to 65. Just my opinion. Best of luck!
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<< <i>Middle die state, to late middle die state, with a great deal of die erosion through the hair, face, and neck of the Indian, also near the rims (obverse and reverse) and in the peripheral areas of the reverse devices. Soft on the high points, and the obverse idde had been lapped once or so, as the tip of the long feather is not as raised from the field as it can be. You'll also note that lapping has made LIBERTY less bold than the reverse lettering, which show signs of swelling (heat + die erosion). A coin that could have a lot of luster, but the die erosion has likely disrupted many of the flow lines that would lead to a great cartwheel. The carbon is minor, but noticeable. I'd call it a 65, max, but could go either direction from that, depending on the way the wind is blowing when it gets graded again. I might try cracking it and giving it a mild and quick dip before re-submission."
It's clear this gentleman knows his way around the Buffalo Nickel series, but I have some concerns. First off , I sure don't know what the heck he's talking about when it comes to the "tip of the long feather" not being raised from the field? What in the heck does he want I ask you? Looks just fine to me..... And this part!!....."I might try cracking it and giving it a mild and quick dip before re-submission." This HURTS the coin in my opinion....
On this coin I'm showing here the luster is very strong, near booming, the coin is boldly struck for the date that along with the lack of blemishes brings me to my decision. And I would like to thank all who has participated on this particular coin as it has been educational for me as some of you guy's and gal's are pretty Sharp on this wonderful series that I find so enjoyable. >>
Joe, here's what I think Hoot means by the "tip of the long feather." Look at how the feather is raised from the field on this coin in NGC MS66. When he was appraising my coin (which wound up PCGS MS65), he spied this weakness, among others, and hinted there are graders who notice such things. The luster on your piece may very well compensate for this, and hopefully will draw the MS66 you're looking for.
Incidentally, I doubt the carbon spot near "cents" that was alluded to earlier would be much of a factor in holding this back from 66. It's just too darned incidental. Things like this might hold a 67 candidate back to 66, but wouldn't hold a 66 back to 65. Just my opinion. Best of luck!
WOW!! That's a real beauty...Thank you for all the pointers....You da man.....Joe
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<< <i>Thank you all for the responses. Now let me tell ya seeing how I have an edge on the matter because I have the coin in hand, I'm going ALL INN MS-66 all the way with this one and if it doesn't come back 66 I'll crack it out and send it back in till they get it right....Thanks again....Joe
Just look at that reverse and this is behind plastic... >>
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<< <i>You said you were going "all-in" on this piece for MS66, back in March. I'm assuming it graded less and that you're still trying. How about an update on this very special coin?
<< <i>Thank you all for the responses. Now let me tell ya seeing how I have an edge on the matter because I have the coin in hand, I'm going ALL INN MS-66 all the way with this one and if it doesn't come back 66 I'll crack it out and send it back in till they get it right....Thanks again....Joe
Just look at that reverse and this is behind plastic... >>
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I have not sent it in yet. I'm getting ready to send it in with many others. I will for sure let ya know....Joe