Just bought this as an upgrade for my VG8. It's not in hand yet but I thought I'd post the Trueview. Nice original coin graded VF25. I can see this in a 30 holder someday.
Wear-wise, that is at least a EF45. Nice strike as well.
1868 is another sleeper coin that made a fool out of me. I debated with the seller over the stated grade while being completely oblivious of the outstanding price he was asking for the coin. Dumb.
After a long wait in a short line to submit my coins for grading (including 14 SLH, 2 BH, 2 commems, and a 14-D Lincoln cent), I had enough time to wander around looking for Larry Briggs and his wonderful World of Seated Coins. I need a circulated 79 and 82 half, and also need to replace a cleaned 1885 and 1888. He didn't have a circulated 79 or 82, but he had a nice PL AU55-ish 1888 with nicely toned, mirrored surfaces, and lightly frosted devices for a good price. I had to check the rims to make sure it wasn't an impaired proof. Mr. Briggs didn't stay long as it was late. Nice to see he's getting around better now than he was last year.
I chatted with Larry's assistant, also called Larry, and started talking nonsense by confusing the 80's dates for some of the 50, 51, and 52 Philly and NO coins that circulated down to low grades outside the US. They're cool condition super-rarities. Some of the 80s coins are rare in circulated grades, but they likely circulated in the US and not elsewhere. Probably too tired from the drive and the long wait standing in line.
Anyway, I spotted two 42-O small dates he had for a reasonable price. I ended up purchasing an ICG VG10 with all letters in LIBERTY visible. It was likely dipped long ago and has retoned to a rich brown color. I don't see any hairlines except on the knee or other issues that bug me. I'm quite pleased with the coin. I like the date, its rarity of (approximately 100 existing specimens according to Coin Facts), and small letters reverses in general and don't anticipate any problems crossing them to PCGS. It might even upgrade with that full LIBERTY.
The problem with purchasing coins at shows is I don't have photos of them. I'll try to see what I can do with a cell phone.
My initial goal was to fill a Dansco with raw, original coins that should straight grade. The problem with having coins graded is I cannot enjoy what would be a 5-lb heavy Dansco with the first four pages now filled with seated halves. Well, there is that extra 1866 slot for a THE 66 No Motto, but I fill it with one of my Oregon commemoratives. Pages 5 (CC coins) and 6 ("the Stopper" and most of the "Maginot Line" - my name for '79-'90 halves) are brutal.
It kinda looks like I'm doing a Gobrecht design set.
This thing isn't in hand yet, but it's secured and I'm really starting to look forward to getting it soon.
I'm starting to work on the next submission of raw coins off eBay or purchased raw at the last FUN show to take advantage of the current PCGS special. I thought it would be fun to take a scan of them. The 72-S and 73 closed 3 are "black beauties" typical of my taste for darkly toned coins 15 years ago. The 1888 is a nice AU+ from Larry Briggs that I tentatively believe is PL and not PR. I've never had a PL coin aside from Canadian coins. Neat! I was impressed by the color and reflectivity, and the devices show some frosting. I have photos for only one of these coins, so I look forward to receiving TVs for them.
L to R and down: 1878-CC (VF20), 1872-S (VF30), 1888 (AU55), 1840 (VF30), 1849 (EF40), 1873 closed 3 (EF40), 1871 (AU50), 1858 (EF40), 1871-CC (VG06).
@Manifest_Destiny said:
Just bought this as an upgrade for my VG8. It's not in hand yet but I thought I'd post the Trueview. Nice original coin graded VF25. I can see this in a 30 holder someday.
Playing with my scanner and scanning some coins I've never shown before. This 1853 seated Liberty half was my first original seated Liberty half and is nearly flawless except for a planchet streak across the face and chest. It was exactly what I was looking for in a 170-year-old silver coin and, along with a few other toners, got me started on my raw Dansco set.
Happy to show this coin as it's an important coin for me in the formation of my set. It showed me that nice, original seated Liberty halves were available raw on eBay and that a set of original, midgrade SLHs in a Dansco was doable up to the semi-key dates where TPG coins were preferred.
@Cladiator said:
That's cool @Barberian , do you remember what year it was when you picked it up?
It brought an end of the futile Barber half wars (2005-2006) for original, midgrade halves with the "Barber e-pirates" (They know who they are!) while adrift on a sea of cleaned eBay coins. Bidding 50% over price guide for an original coin was just the opening 'parry.'
You see, I've got the SLH Dansco out of the SDB at the moment so I can select coins for grading. Over the course of that FUN process, I just discovered that the "cropping" tool expands the scan images size, so now I can scan raw coins and expand them to a viewable size. I can display many of the remaining inexpensive (back then), common date, raw, original coins that got me fired up early on about collecting SLHs years ago. More on that later...
The 1853 was THE "Pioneer coin," one of the darkly toned, original coins I was looking to collect, and the A&R reverse is glorious! Unfortunately, I didn't save seller's photos back then. Now, I'm sending many of my Dansco coins in for grading and am wondering if the 1853 will straight grade despite the planchet defect. PCGS can indicate planchet defect all they want; I just want the straight grade for an otherwise choice coin. (LOL!) I think it's proper in this case, given that the planchet streak is rather small and narrow, to give both a number grade and mention the defect. I'm hoping PCGS will show some charity toward this wonderful but unfortunate coin. Puh-lease! Not the "VF-details" grade and being forever shunned!
Maybe this coin can continue pioneering and become the first details coin to receive CAC approval. That'd be cool.
My newfound skills enable me to post my 1888 purchased at Summer FUN. Is it a proof or an impaired proof? My guess is it is a PR58 or PR55. It caught my eye, I needed to replace a problem 1888 (cleaned). Now I have a nicer problem coin. Lol!
In scanning and posting this image I realize how poor scans are for capturing the essence of proof or PL coins. It has high reflectivity, with light amber to burnt orange toning around the devices, and blue in the fields where there's some haziness from wiping. Somehow, I missed the nick to the breast, which bothers me on seated coins. Miss Liberty cannot be badly wounded, and certainly not there.
You're right about scanners being bad at capturing proof fields. Those devices though, they look magnificent and based off your description of the color I bet this is one of those coins that will blow your head off in-hand.
Edit to add: The nick on the chest kind of blends in. I didn't even notice it until you pointed it out.
I just got this PCGS XF40 to replace a VF details (cleaned). I don't have it in hand yet but it seems like a nice original coin. I would grade it VF35 but I only paid high VF money for it, so all good.
@Cladiator said:
You're right about scanners being bad at capturing proof fields. Those devices though, they look magnificent and based off your description of the color I bet this is one of those coins that will blow your head off in-hand.
Edit to add: The nick on the chest kind of blends in. I didn't even notice it until you pointed it out.
It's got its flaws including some small corrosion spots between the lettering and the rim, but it made me look, and I thought "that's a lot of coin for the price" without knowing the recent prices realized for 1888s. Who knows the prices of these low-mint Philly coins anyway these days other than a specialist? And Mr. Briggs knows and moves lots of these late Philly coins. So, I grabbed it, and it's now the only proof in my collection if it's indeed a proof.
To be clear, both this coin and the 1842-O small date were very reasonably priced for the quality of coin received. The 42-O SD is an excellent candidate to upgrade a grade or two based upon its wear and considering its die marriage (the eagle on reverse die A in 1842 was horrible - see Bugert 2011: p. 86 and below). Sorry, I don't have photos of my coin yet and cannot scan it, but here's an MS62 to illustrate the potential problem for graders with this die marriage.
I assume the 1888 is an impaired proof from the cameo frost, mirrors and rims, but I'm not certain.
It kinda looks like I'm doing a Gobrecht design set.
This thing isn't in hand yet, but it's secured and I'm really starting to look forward to getting it soon.
@LanLord - You will love this example, I guarantee it.
@Manifest_Destiny said:
Just bought this as an upgrade for my VG8. It's not in hand yet but I thought I'd post the Trueview. Nice original coin graded VF25. I can see this in a 30 holder someday.
I have this in hand now. The Trueview is pretty much spot on. Choice original gray coin. Now I have to upgrade my 70-cc G6 and 71-cc VF details. I doubt that will happen anytime soon. Even if I had the funds, the coins are almost nonexistent.
@P0CKETCHANGE said:
Fresh TrueView of an 1875 Philly 20c I acquired back in April. It’s richly and fully toned over otherwise clean surfaces. MS64 holder.
Mintage only 38,500 (!), a small fraction of the 1.15m made in SF. The P issue is much more scarce, but only ~10% more in price in this grade.
These are the DLRC photos:
Love that double dime... thanks for sharing!
A Barber Quartet is made up of Nickels, Dimes, Quarters, and Halves.
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Just got this reholdered with Trueview. Nice original coin graded 35.
Scarce variety that I had reholdered with the FS#.
Just bought this as an upgrade for my VG8. It's not in hand yet but I thought I'd post the Trueview. Nice original coin graded VF25. I can see this in a 30 holder someday.
Great looking 73-CC @Manifest_Destiny !
Thanks!. It's a super original coin. Can't wait to get it in hand. Here are some other pics.
I'm putting together a set composed of all business strike coins and I'm a fan of most no motto designs so picked this one up for type.
Chopmarked Trade Dollar Registry Set --- US & World Gold Showcase --- World Chopmark Showcase
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Wear-wise, that is at least a EF45. Nice strike as well.
1868 is another sleeper coin that made a fool out of me. I debated with the seller over the stated grade while being completely oblivious of the outstanding price he was asking for the coin. Dumb.
@JBN , hubba hubba!
This is essentially my show report.
After a long wait in a short line to submit my coins for grading (including 14 SLH, 2 BH, 2 commems, and a 14-D Lincoln cent), I had enough time to wander around looking for Larry Briggs and his wonderful World of Seated Coins. I need a circulated 79 and 82 half, and also need to replace a cleaned 1885 and 1888. He didn't have a circulated 79 or 82, but he had a nice PL AU55-ish 1888 with nicely toned, mirrored surfaces, and lightly frosted devices for a good price. I had to check the rims to make sure it wasn't an impaired proof. Mr. Briggs didn't stay long as it was late. Nice to see he's getting around better now than he was last year.
I chatted with Larry's assistant, also called Larry, and started talking nonsense by confusing the 80's dates for some of the 50, 51, and 52 Philly and NO coins that circulated down to low grades outside the US. They're cool condition super-rarities. Some of the 80s coins are rare in circulated grades, but they likely circulated in the US and not elsewhere. Probably too tired from the drive and the long wait standing in line.
Anyway, I spotted two 42-O small dates he had for a reasonable price. I ended up purchasing an ICG VG10 with all letters in LIBERTY visible. It was likely dipped long ago and has retoned to a rich brown color. I don't see any hairlines except on the knee or other issues that bug me. I'm quite pleased with the coin. I like the date, its rarity of (approximately 100 existing specimens according to Coin Facts), and small letters reverses in general and don't anticipate any problems crossing them to PCGS. It might even upgrade with that full LIBERTY.
The problem with purchasing coins at shows is I don't have photos of them. I'll try to see what I can do with a cell phone.
My initial goal was to fill a Dansco with raw, original coins that should straight grade. The problem with having coins graded is I cannot enjoy what would be a 5-lb heavy Dansco with the first four pages now filled with seated halves. Well, there is that extra 1866 slot for a THE 66 No Motto, but I fill it with one of my Oregon commemoratives. Pages 5 (CC coins) and 6 ("the Stopper" and most of the "Maginot Line" - my name for '79-'90 halves) are brutal.
WOW! A beautiful, well-struck 70-S. Must be an AU59+.
My 70-S is a VG8.
I prefer StacksBowers images over the True View in this case. Very nice condition rarity with CAC green sticker:
Thank you and Courtesy to StacksBowers for these images.
Thanks for sharing @JBN !
A Barber Quartet is made up of Nickels, Dimes, Quarters, and Halves.
It kinda looks like I'm doing a Gobrecht design set.
This thing isn't in hand yet, but it's secured and I'm really starting to look forward to getting it soon.
Some crusty dollars
One I just recently acquired in the BST.
"Why waste time learning, when ignorance is instantaneous?"- Calvin and Hobbes
I'm starting to work on the next submission of raw coins off eBay or purchased raw at the last FUN show to take advantage of the current PCGS special. I thought it would be fun to take a scan of them. The 72-S and 73 closed 3 are "black beauties" typical of my taste for darkly toned coins 15 years ago. The 1888 is a nice AU+ from Larry Briggs that I tentatively believe is PL and not PR. I've never had a PL coin aside from Canadian coins. Neat! I was impressed by the color and reflectivity, and the devices show some frosting. I have photos for only one of these coins, so I look forward to receiving TVs for them.
L to R and down: 1878-CC (VF20), 1872-S (VF30), 1888 (AU55), 1840 (VF30), 1849 (EF40), 1873 closed 3 (EF40), 1871 (AU50), 1858 (EF40), 1871-CC (VG06).
A great rarity in VF! Lovely rare CC quarter!
Grabbed this mid-grade circulated 1882 a few minutes ago. I hadn't seen a circulated 1882 in quite a while.
Not quite as nice as this 1882, but it'll do.
New upgrade for my quarter set. VF25, replaces my F15
A Barber Quartet is made up of Nickels, Dimes, Quarters, and Halves.
Here’s an updated group picture of my Seated Halves now that I have one of each type
Mr_Spud
Playing with my scanner and scanning some coins I've never shown before. This 1853 seated Liberty half was my first original seated Liberty half and is nearly flawless except for a planchet streak across the face and chest. It was exactly what I was looking for in a 170-year-old silver coin and, along with a few other toners, got me started on my raw Dansco set.
Happy to show this coin as it's an important coin for me in the formation of my set. It showed me that nice, original seated Liberty halves were available raw on eBay and that a set of original, midgrade SLHs in a Dansco was doable up to the semi-key dates where TPG coins were preferred.
That's cool @Barberian , do you remember what year it was when you picked it up?
You see, I've got the SLH Dansco out of the SDB at the moment so I can select coins for grading. Over the course of that FUN process, I just discovered that the "cropping" tool expands the scan images size, so now I can scan raw coins and expand them to a viewable size. I can display many of the remaining inexpensive (back then), common date, raw, original coins that got me fired up early on about collecting SLHs years ago. More on that later...
The 1853 was THE "Pioneer coin," one of the darkly toned, original coins I was looking to collect, and the A&R reverse is glorious! Unfortunately, I didn't save seller's photos back then. Now, I'm sending many of my Dansco coins in for grading and am wondering if the 1853 will straight grade despite the planchet defect. PCGS can indicate planchet defect all they want; I just want the straight grade for an otherwise choice coin. (LOL!) I think it's proper in this case, given that the planchet streak is rather small and narrow, to give both a number grade and mention the defect. I'm hoping PCGS will show some charity toward this wonderful but unfortunate coin. Puh-lease! Not the "VF-details" grade and being forever shunned!
Maybe this coin can continue pioneering and become the first details coin to receive CAC approval. That'd be cool.
My newfound skills enable me to post my 1888 purchased at Summer FUN. Is it a proof or an impaired proof? My guess is it is a PR58 or PR55. It caught my eye, I needed to replace a problem 1888 (cleaned). Now I have a nicer problem coin. Lol!
In scanning and posting this image I realize how poor scans are for capturing the essence of proof or PL coins. It has high reflectivity, with light amber to burnt orange toning around the devices, and blue in the fields where there's some haziness from wiping. Somehow, I missed the nick to the breast, which bothers me on seated coins. Miss Liberty cannot be badly wounded, and certainly not there.
Perhaps you can apply some balm to the wound?
"SNAKEBITE!"
You're right about scanners being bad at capturing proof fields. Those devices though, they look magnificent and based off your description of the color I bet this is one of those coins that will blow your head off in-hand.
Edit to add: The nick on the chest kind of blends in. I didn't even notice it until you pointed it out.
I just got this PCGS XF40 to replace a VF details (cleaned). I don't have it in hand yet but it seems like a nice original coin. I would grade it VF35 but I only paid high VF money for it, so all good.
It's got its flaws including some small corrosion spots between the lettering and the rim, but it made me look, and I thought "that's a lot of coin for the price" without knowing the recent prices realized for 1888s. Who knows the prices of these low-mint Philly coins anyway these days other than a specialist? And Mr. Briggs knows and moves lots of these late Philly coins. So, I grabbed it, and it's now the only proof in my collection if it's indeed a proof.
To be clear, both this coin and the 1842-O small date were very reasonably priced for the quality of coin received. The 42-O SD is an excellent candidate to upgrade a grade or two based upon its wear and considering its die marriage (the eagle on reverse die A in 1842 was horrible - see Bugert 2011: p. 86 and below). Sorry, I don't have photos of my coin yet and cannot scan it, but here's an MS62 to illustrate the potential problem for graders with this die marriage.
I assume the 1888 is an impaired proof from the cameo frost, mirrors and rims, but I'm not certain.
These are my seated types. I do have a 50c but it’s at PCGS right now for a glamour shot.
Nothing is as expensive as free money.
It kinda looks like I'm doing a Gobrecht design set.
This thing isn't in hand yet, but it's secured and I'm really starting to look forward to getting it soon.
@LanLord - You will love this example, I guarantee it.
End Systemic Elitism - It Takes All Of Us
There should be a "WOW!" button for coins like @POCKETCHANGE's coins.
Having fun with my scanner and photo editor. Some richly toned coins from the 1870's, the first four I haven't shown before.
1872-S WB-2 VF25
1873 NA WB-4 closed 3 EF40
1875-CC VG08
1876 VG08
1877-S VF25
An 1840-O and two 1841-O die marriages. All are common (R3) die marriages.
1840-O WB10
1841-O WB5
1841-O WB8
A few of the nicer coins from my latest sub. VF20, VF25, and VF20.
"Why waste time learning, when ignorance is instantaneous?"- Calvin and Hobbes
@kirkmink , outstanding sir!
I have this in hand now. The Trueview is pretty much spot on. Choice original gray coin. Now I have to upgrade my 70-cc G6 and 71-cc VF details. I doubt that will happen anytime soon. Even if I had the funds, the coins are almost nonexistent.
Fresh TrueView of an 1875 Philly 20c I acquired back in April. It’s richly and fully toned over otherwise clean surfaces. MS64 holder.
Mintage only 38,500 (!), a small fraction of the 1.15m made in SF. The P issue is much more scarce, but only ~10% more in price in this grade.
These are the DLRC photos:
Nothing is as expensive as free money.
TrueView of the missing half dollar type from my previous post. It must have posted shortly after. AU58
Nothing is as expensive as free money.
Beautiful color @POCKETCHANGE
A Barber Quartet is made up of Nickels, Dimes, Quarters, and Halves.
That’s a WOWSER!
Expensive... tough acquisition I am sure.
A Barber Quartet is made up of Nickels, Dimes, Quarters, and Halves.
Love that double dime... thanks for sharing!
A Barber Quartet is made up of Nickels, Dimes, Quarters, and Halves.
1880, XF40, CAC, WB-102, mintage 8400
All of the coins have a lot of eye appeal! Nice type set!