Trent, when things like this happens to a family, friends and loved ones want to offer their condolences through donations. Rather than giving hundreds of dead plants, why not donate to a child's college tuition? Regardless of how wealthy or successful someone is. It's something that people want to offer to someone who is grieving. You obviously know that. Why question this now??
I honestly think that we shouldn't get in the middle of this. Nightcrawler and miconelegacy are 2 people who are intelligent enough that I'm sure they can work this out in private. Lets not take this any further please and just not add fuel to this fire. Both are guys that are great assets to this board. This can get ugly and start dividing people around here. Please try to refrain from commenting but if that's too hard for you, then please make it a positive one.
<< <i>I think it would be in the best interest of everyone if this thread were totally deleted. >>
I think this thread was started because the OP was feeling a bit of anxiety. I think we should respect his desire to get this "off his chest", and out in the open. Perhaps it is making him feel better.
If he decides he wants this deleted, or locked up, then let him delete all his posts.
I think he started this thread to gather support from others.
<< <i>Trent, when things like this happens to a family, friends and loved ones want to offer their condolences through donations. Rather than giving hundreds of dead plants, why not donate to a child's college tuition? Regardless of how wealthy or successful someone is. It's something that people want to offer to someone who is grieving. You obviously know that. Why question this now?? >>
I truley am sorry about changing my mind about it. It's not jealosy or being a troll that changed my mind. It's that I honestly feel duped.
I never expected when I made a donation that it was to someone who can spend 10k in a month on cards. I thought when I did it that Mike was more average, and less wealthy.
Maybe it's my mistake, but I still feel duped.
You and I and everyone else have lost loved ones. It's a terrible thing, I know. I'm sorry for Mike, because I know.
<< <i> I think he started this thread to gather support from others. >>
That may be the case, but he made it seem that was the PM directed at him. Trent claims there was a back and forth before that specific PM was sent. If there really was a conversation leading up to that posted PM, the situation was misrepresented and may not be as shocking as OP tried to make it seem. >>
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<< <i>Trent, when things like this happens to a family, friends and loved ones want to offer their condolences through donations. Rather than giving hundreds of dead plants, why not donate to a child's college tuition? Regardless of how wealthy or successful someone is. It's something that people want to offer to someone who is grieving. You obviously know that. Why question this now?? >>
I was going to say this, but you said it more succinctly. My impression is that the tuition fund was not made because Mike necessarily "needed" the money for his children, but rather as a vehicle for other people to honor his wife by helping out his children. Mike's income/wealth is not and should not be a factor here.
<< <i>I think it would be in the best interest of everyone if this thread were totally deleted. >>
I think this thread was started because the OP was feeling a bit of anxiety. I think we should respect his desire to get this "off his chest", and out in the open. Perhaps it is making him feel better.
If he decides he wants this deleted, or locked up, then let him delete all his posts.
I think he started this thread to gather support from others. >>
I can't argue with you - but I don't think Mike expected the PM'er to come out in the open?
And - now - this can turn into a war - which doesn't serve Mike very well with respect to "getting something off his chest."
This is just my opinion. And in no way am I being the arbiter - just giving an opinion.
<< <i>Did HE ask for donations, or did someone else recommend it ? >>
If I'm not mistaken, I do believe cincyredlegs recommended it. >>
But he should be able to say that he has the means and isn't in need of contributions of this sort. He could have direct the contributions to a charity for whatever cancer it was that took his wife.
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Like Steve Said who cares about a Troll , recently I got a PM from some guy trying to get a rise out of me asking me why I would post a pic of my Mother in my sigline ( I assume one of the Perkies) then followed it by telling me how much of a creepy disgusting person I was LOL
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<< <i>Did HE ask for donations, or did someone else recommend it ? >>
If I'm not mistaken, I do believe cincyredlegs recommended it. >>
Cincyredlegs gathered support for the pack donations, which I gladly contributed to. I was not aware there was a college fund donation also. Perhaps cincyredlegs did that too.
Even though Mike spends over 10k a month or whatever on sportscards, I'm still happy I contributed to that wax pack gift from BBCE, and would do it over again in a second.
<< <i>Like Steve Said who cares about a Troll , recently I got a PM from some guy trying to get a rise out of me asking me why I would post a pic of my Mother in my sigline ( I assume one of the Perkies) then followed it by telling me how much of a creepy disgusting person I was LOL
A simple "Go F Yourself" return PM makes ya feel better >>
This seems to be an unfortunate misunderstanding. The original donations thread link paints a clearer picture now, as the initial wording was "in lieu of flowers, the family has asked for donations to the children's college fund...."
The wording here is meant to imply, "please don't waste $50 on flowers that will eventually be thrown away, but instead use that $50 towards the kids' college education."
I think this was understandably misinterpreted as, "please feel free to send money to help the kids get through college, as now it will be a struggle."
I really think this is a misunderstanding and misinterpretation on the giver's end. The money wasn't really needed to get the kids through college, but any donations would be better spent on college, rather than flowers.
I hope both sides can make amends, as life is too short.
<< <i>Like Steve Said who cares about a Troll , recently I got a PM from some guy trying to get a rise out of me asking me why I would post a pic of my Mother in my sigline ( I assume one of the Perkies) then followed it by telling me how much of a creepy disgusting person I was LOL
A simple "Go F Yourself" return PM makes ya feel better >>
<< <i>This seems to be an unfortunate misunderstanding. The original "donations thread" link paints a clearer picture now, as the initial wording was "in lieu of flowers, the family has asked for donations to the children's college fund...."
The wording here is meant to imply, "please don't waste $50 on flowers that will eventually be thrown away, but instead use that $50 towards the kids' college education."
I think this was understandably misinterpreted as, "please feel free to send money to help the kids get through college, as now it will be a struggle."
I really think this is a misunderstanding and misinterpretation on the giver's end. The money wasn't really needed to get the kids through college, but any donations would be better spent on college, rather than flowers.
I hope both sides can make amends, as life is too short. >>
I guess I missed the post of your wife passing, sorry to hear about that. It was obvious she meant the world to you and the children.
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<< <i>In lieu of flowers, the family has asked for donations to their childern's college fund. If you would like to contribute, you can go into your local Bank of America and have them pull up: >>
sounds to me like someone was asking for money pulling at your heart strings,,, jeepers,, must be nice to have "the Means" to send under such rotten times, makes a guy feel all fuzzy and warm thinking , hey Im giving to children,, its cool,, i personally dont have one red cent to leave my 5 kids but i would hope no one would ask for anything in my name,, just burn me and toss the ashes in the waste bin,,, asking for a donation back,, man,, jeepers,, as set in my ways as i am, im not sure i would pulled the "Indiana giver" trip on him, wow,, Night you are most generous and for that i bow to your generousity, it was kind of you,, but i think at that point of sending it i would have moved on,, i gave the church 20 bucks a couple months ago and im still looking for my financial blessing i was promised,, not sure when it will arrive but i have to believe right,, i would never go back to the church and say hey this giving thing didnt work wheres my refund,, i just hope they put it to good use and be done with it,, sorry for the honesty dude but im really trying to get my post count up to master baiter so i can be accepted in here,, go kick the dog and move on bro,, smile,, j
<< <i>This seems to be an unfortunate misunderstanding. The original donations thread link paints a clearer picture now, as the initial wording was "in lieu of flowers, the family has asked for donations to the children's college fund...."
The wording here is meant to imply, "please don't waste $50 on flowers that will eventually be thrown away, but instead use that $50 towards the kids' college education."
I think this was understandably misinterpreted as, "please feel free to send money to help the kids get through college, as now it will be a struggle."
I really think this is a misunderstanding and misinterpretation on the giver's end. The money wasn't really needed to get the kids through college, but any donations would be better spent on college, rather than flowers.
I hope both sides can make amends, as life is too short. >>
Very Well Said! I agree with this poster on what is said. This board is a place to relax and enjoy the hobby even if you don't collect a certain grading companies cards.
<< <i>I never expected when I made a donation that it was to someone who can spend 10k in a month on cards. I thought when I did it that Mike was more average, and less wealthy. >>
Why does this matter. If your giving to someone, it should be coming from the heart, and not because someone has 1 dollar or 1 million dollars. The request to donate to kids college fund in lieu of sending flowers is frankly a standard practice today.
I really don't understand the constant back and forth that exists on these boards. We are on this forum to talk, show and learn about a hobby we are all passionate about. What ever happened to the pure unadulterated joy of collecting?
Mike, it would be a HUGE shame if you allowed this incident to run you from these boards. This forum needs more people like yourself that are passionate about the hobby, but more so passionate about life in general. You have gone out of your way lately to make these boards a better place. I might not participate in everything you do, but I notice your efforts, and I appreciate them!
I never expected when I made a donation that it was to someone who can spend 10k in a month on cards. I thought when I did it that Mike was more average, and less wealthy. >>
Why does this matter. If your giving to someone, it should be coming from the heart, and not because someone has 1 dollar or 1 million dollars. The request to donate to kids college fund in lieu of sending flowers is frankly a standard practice today.
I really don't understand the constant back and forth that exists on these boards. We are on this forum to talk, show and learn about a hobby we are all passionate about. What ever happened to the pure unadulterated joy of collecting?
Mike, it would be a HUGE shame if you allowed this incident to run you from these boards. This forum needs more people like yourself that are passionate about the hobby, but more so passionate about life in general. You have gone out of your way lately to make these boards a better place. I might not participate in everything you do, but I notice your efforts, and I appreciate them!
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<< <i>This seems to be an unfortunate misunderstanding. The original donations thread link paints a clearer picture now, as the initial wording was "in lieu of flowers, the family has asked for donations to the children's college fund...."
The wording here is meant to imply, "please don't waste $50 on flowers that will eventually be thrown away, but instead use that $50 towards the kids' college education."
I think this was understandably misinterpreted as, "please feel free to send money to help the kids get through college, as now it will be a struggle."
I really think this is a misunderstanding and misinterpretation on the giver's end. The money wasn't really needed to get the kids through college, but any donations would be better spent on college, rather than flowers.
I hope both sides can make amends, as life is too short. >>
So I go to a wedding last summer for a guy that makes more money in a year than most of us put together. Does this mean that I shouldn't have given him a wedding gift ($$)?
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<< <i>This seems to be an unfortunate misunderstanding. The original donations thread link paints a clearer picture now, as the initial wording was "in lieu of flowers, the family has asked for donations to the children's college fund...." The wording here is meant to imply, "please don't waste $50 on flowers that will eventually be thrown away, but instead use that $50 towards the kids' college education." I think this was understandably misinterpreted as, "please feel free to send money to help the kids get through college, as now it will be a struggle." I really think this is a misunderstanding and misinterpretation on the giver's end. The money wasn't really needed to get the kids through college, but any donations would be better spent on college, rather than flowers.
I hope both sides can make amends, as life is too short. >>
I read the first page or so and then I had to go to my parents for a couple hours. While I was gone I was thinking of what to write when I got back. The above was exactly what I was going to post. This was almost word for word: "please don't waste $50 on flowers that will eventually be thrown away, but instead use that $50 towards the kids' college education."
I can see how Trent thought that it meant "please feel free to send money to help the kids get through college, as now it will be a struggle."
During my time on these boards I have had great experiences with both these guys and consider them both friends. I know they both have hearts of gold and they are BOTH GENEROUS people. I guess when Trent THOUGHT that he read that the family was on hard financial times he send in a wad of money to help. I can understand how he got upset when he realized Mike was OK financially. However, Trent may have been better off wording his PM a little differently.
I can also understand how Mike got pissed off when he received the eMail, since he never stated he needed the money.
Guys, I think this is a case of a BIG MISUNDERSTANDING and I hope the two of you can put it behind you. I'm not asking that you guys become best of friends, you don't have to kiss and make up, but hopefully you can both admit it was a mistake.
You are both nice guys ... contributors to these boards ... very generous when it comes to helping others. Maybe Trent was just in a bad state of mind when he wrote the PM. Mike is understandably upset, as Michelle's passing is so recent and it must be tough to deal with.
Of course it's up to the two of you, but I hope in time you can both understand where the other was coming from.
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<< <i>Why does this matter. If your giving to someone, it should be coming from the heart, and not because someone has 1 dollar or 1 million dollars. The request to donate to kids college fund in lieu of sending flowers is frankly a standard practice today. I really don't understand the constant back and forth that exists on these boards. We are on this forum to talk, show and learn about a hobby we are all passionate about. What ever happened to the pure unadulterated joy of collecting? Mike, it would be a HUGE shame if you allowed this incident to run you from these boards. This forum needs more people like yourself that are passionate about the hobby, but more so passionate about life in general. You have gone out of your way lately to make these boards a better place. I might not participate in everything you do, but I notice your efforts, and I appreciate them! >>
Well said Matt Miller!! I agree it would be loss if you left the boards Mike, not just you but for the whole CU family. I hope you decide to stay.
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What is truly sad is that someone actually thinks that I set up a scam of sorts. I didn't even start the thread. And yes if someone wants to buy flowers or something, putting Money toward a Childs education is much more important.
Charities if Brent only knew what I assist with charities on. I was the top fund raiser for the Low Country Komen Foundation. I raised the most out of everyone.
I didn't even know about this until a couple weeks ago when Brent decided to let me know about the contribution he made. I thanked him extensively and said it was way too much. Maybe he is going through financial struggles.
Last year when the cyclist was raising money I contributed as well as a few others. There wasn't a huge turn out, so I offered that anyone that made $100 donation I would send them $150 worth of cards. Now who do you think that person was?????
Yup you guessed it, Mr Nightcrawler himself. He did receive his cards and thanked me for them.
Brent you should have just said something about the money, and I would have no issue with it. The problem is you are a troublemaker as you have been for many on here, and you imply I used my wife's illness to dupe you and others.
I have know Idea who donated what. I'm thankful you contributed, and have zero issue sending you it back. None whatsoever.
If you fond a better cause for it good for you. But I think you should apologize for accusing me of being deceitful. I am a very generous person because maybe like you, I enjoy helping others, and having fun.
Go read the threads. This board really helped me mentally and emotionally while I endured the most horrific struggles in my life. I will forever be thankful for that. That's why I wanted to do these February contests. A way to say thanks for your love and support. I didn't know being a member here you had to disclose your financials, nor did I know you need to do that when your spouse dies.
Everyone I think except for you knows who I am, because I'm honest and trustworthy. The thing you accused me of especially with the subject matter is really a low blow. If you were a real man you would come here and apologize and we can move on. Call me you have my number.
I shared some of my collection because I've wanted to for along time. 10 years ago I was using change to get a cheeseburger and get gas, I worked hard to get to where I am at. And I'm trying to make a living in this cardboard business.
Hopefully we can resolve this quickly, I hold no grudges, and I look forward to your phone call.
I like how just over a week ago the OP was posting the need for less drama on this board and now he is the one feeding the fire when all of this was being dealt with through PMs to start with. Demanding public apologies, spraining his arm patting himself on the back, threats to leave the board. Nobody needed to read all of this but I sure am glad you posted it on a Saturday so it did not get poofed too quickly.
<< <i>...when things like this happens to a family, friends and loved ones want to offer their condolences through donations. Rather than giving hundreds of dead plants, why not donate to a child's college tuition? Regardless of how wealthy or successful someone is. It's something that people want to offer to someone who is grieving... >>
Someone said it before, but this is the salient point. I think I would feel the same as Mike - it's not easy to let something like this not get under your skin.
<< <i>Who is Brent? I thought I was following pretty well until that >>
Stop iPhone smart type silly >>
Understood, I hate that feature on the IPAD. Would someone mind sharing how to turn that feature off for those of us like myself that are technoliogically challenged?
<< <i>I like how just over a week ago the OP was posting the need for less drama on this board and now he is the one feeding the fire when all of this was being dealt with through PMs to start with. Demanding public apologies, spraining his arm patting himself on the back, threats to leave the board. Nobody needed to read all of this but I sure am glad you posted it on a Saturday so it did not get poofed too quickly. >>
I hear ya, I didn't want this crap either. I just don't want others thinking that, as it's a million percent false and wrong. I hate the Fing drama. And I'm not patting myself on the back just stating facts. You know that HH, so do you PM.
<< <i>I like how just over a week ago the OP was posting the need for less drama on this board and now he is the one feeding the fire when all of this was being dealt with through PMs to start with. Demanding public apologies, spraining his arm patting himself on the back, threats to leave the board. Nobody needed to read all of this but I sure am glad you posted it on a Saturday so it did not get poofed too quickly. >>
I can see you going back however...
Please but yourself in Mike's shoes...
He feels devastated by this - he's a good guy who knew nothing of the generous amount of the donation by Trent and knew in his heart he was not trying to exploit the desperate situation for personal gain.
That's why I - now - stand on the idea that I wish this had stayed private.
edit: I can see why Trent is upset - since he wanted this to stay private.
After reading this thread fully I just want to throw out that my "Tell the guy to F Off" comment was before I knew all the details and you were referring to Trent, Im on board with the fact that both these guys are good peeps and it is a misunderstading.
One other thing regardless of what most people say about "Drama" it has and always been a HUGE part of the CU forums, this one in particular has been better than most though as it seems to be one of the very few that hasnt had the "Pile on" effect. I think this matter will work itself out sooner rather than later.
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<< <i>To everyone who reads this.
I honestly think that we shouldn't get in the middle of this. Nightcrawler and miconelegacy are 2 people who are intelligent enough that I'm sure they can work this out in private. Lets not take this any further please and just not add fuel to this fire. Both are guys that are great assets to this board. This can get ugly and start dividing people around here. Please try to refrain from commenting but if that's too hard for you, then please make it a positive one.
Marc >>
Can't agree more Marc.
<< <i>Why should this be deleted?
I never asked for donations, never a dime, not one single time. How is that my fault.
Trent I will certainly give you your money back. It would be a dishonor to allow my children to use money from someone like you. >>
Hi Mike
It's just my opinion - favoring no one individual - just thinking that this could turn into a side show which does neither one of you any good.
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<< <i>I think it would be in the best interest of everyone if this thread were totally deleted. >>
I think this thread was started because the OP was feeling a bit of anxiety.
I think we should respect his desire to get this "off his chest", and out in the open.
Perhaps it is making him feel better.
If he decides he wants this deleted, or locked up, then let him delete all his posts.
I think he started this thread to gather support from others.
<< <i>Trent, when things like this happens to a family, friends and loved ones want to offer their condolences through donations. Rather than giving hundreds of dead plants, why not donate to a child's college tuition? Regardless of how wealthy or successful someone is. It's something that people want to offer to someone who is grieving. You obviously know that. Why question this now?? >>
I truley am sorry about changing my mind about it. It's not jealosy or being a troll that changed my mind. It's that I honestly feel duped.
I never expected when I made a donation that it was to someone who can spend 10k in a month on cards. I thought when I did it that Mike was more average, and less wealthy.
Maybe it's my mistake, but I still feel duped.
You and I and everyone else have lost loved ones. It's a terrible thing, I know. I'm sorry for Mike, because I know.
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<< <i>
I think he started this thread to gather support from others. >>
That may be the case, but he made it seem that was the PM directed at him. Trent claims there was a back and forth before that specific PM was sent. If there really was a conversation leading up to that posted PM, the situation was misrepresented and may not be as shocking as OP tried to make it seem. >>
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<< <i>Trent, when things like this happens to a family, friends and loved ones want to offer their condolences through donations. Rather than giving hundreds of dead plants, why not donate to a child's college tuition? Regardless of how wealthy or successful someone is. It's something that people want to offer to someone who is grieving. You obviously know that. Why question this now?? >>
I was going to say this, but you said it more succinctly. My impression is that the tuition fund was not made because Mike necessarily "needed" the money for his children, but rather as a vehicle for other people to honor his wife by helping out his children. Mike's income/wealth is not and should not be a factor here.
Did this miconelegacy (great guy that others claim he is) ask for donations, and then he's proven to spend 10k a month on sportscards ?
Did HE ask for donations, or did someone else recommend it ?
OK. Thanks TonyC for the explanation in that post. Thanks.
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<< <i>I think it would be in the best interest of everyone if this thread were totally deleted. >>
I think this thread was started because the OP was feeling a bit of anxiety.
I think we should respect his desire to get this "off his chest", and out in the open.
Perhaps it is making him feel better.
If he decides he wants this deleted, or locked up, then let him delete all his posts.
I think he started this thread to gather support from others. >>
I can't argue with you - but I don't think Mike expected the PM'er to come out in the open?
And - now - this can turn into a war - which doesn't serve Mike very well with respect to "getting something off his chest."
This is just my opinion. And in no way am I being the arbiter - just giving an opinion.
<< <i>Did HE ask for donations, or did someone else recommend it ? >>
If I'm not mistaken, I do believe cincyredlegs recommended it.
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scmavl posted the info, which he received from cpamike (that is how I read it).
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<< <i>Did HE ask for donations, or did someone else recommend it ? >>
If I'm not mistaken, I do believe cincyredlegs recommended it. >>
But he should be able to say that he has the means and isn't in need of contributions of this sort. He could have direct the contributions to a charity for whatever cancer it was that took his wife.
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<< <i>Did HE ask for donations, or did someone else recommend it ? >>
If I'm not mistaken, I do believe cincyredlegs recommended it. >>
Cincyredlegs gathered support for the pack donations, which I gladly contributed to.
I was not aware there was a college fund donation also. Perhaps cincyredlegs did that too.
Even though Mike spends over 10k a month or whatever on sportscards, I'm still happy I contributed to that
wax pack gift from BBCE, and would do it over again in a second.
<< <i>Like Steve Said who cares about a Troll , recently I got a PM from some guy trying to get a rise out of me asking me why I would post a pic of my Mother in my sigline ( I assume one of the Perkies) then followed it by telling me how much of a creepy disgusting person I was LOL
A simple "Go F Yourself" return PM makes ya feel better
Your mother is hot. Smokin' hot
donations thread link paints a clearer picture now, as the initial
wording was "in lieu of flowers, the family has asked for donations
to the children's college fund...."
The wording here is meant to imply, "please don't waste $50 on flowers
that will eventually be thrown away, but instead use that $50 towards
the kids' college education."
I think this was understandably misinterpreted as, "please feel free
to send money to help the kids get through college, as now it will
be a struggle."
I really think this is a misunderstanding and misinterpretation on the
giver's end. The money wasn't really needed to get the kids through
college, but any donations would be better spent on college, rather than
flowers.
I hope both sides can make amends, as life is too short.
<< <i>
<< <i>Like Steve Said who cares about a Troll , recently I got a PM from some guy trying to get a rise out of me asking me why I would post a pic of my Mother in my sigline ( I assume one of the Perkies) then followed it by telling me how much of a creepy disgusting person I was LOL
A simple "Go F Yourself" return PM makes ya feel better
Your mother is hot. Smokin' hot
HEY!!!!
<< <i>This seems to be an unfortunate misunderstanding. The original
"donations thread" link paints a clearer picture now, as the initial
wording was "in lieu of flowers, the family has asked for donations
to the children's college fund...."
The wording here is meant to imply, "please don't waste $50 on flowers
that will eventually be thrown away, but instead use that $50 towards
the kids' college education."
I think this was understandably misinterpreted as, "please feel free
to send money to help the kids get through college, as now it will
be a struggle."
I really think this is a misunderstanding and misinterpretation on the
giver's end. The money wasn't really needed to get the kids through
college, but any donations would be better spent on college, rather than
flowers.
I hope both sides can make amends, as life is too short. >>
I'd sure like to think this is the case.
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<< <i>
<< <i>In lieu of flowers, the family has asked for donations to their childern's college fund. If you would like to contribute, you can go into your local Bank of America and have them pull up: >>
sounds to me like someone was asking for money pulling at your heart strings,,, jeepers,, must be nice to have "the Means" to send under such rotten times, makes a guy feel all fuzzy and warm thinking , hey Im giving to children,, its cool,, i personally dont have one red cent to leave my 5 kids but i would hope no one would ask for anything in my name,, just burn me and toss the ashes in the waste bin,,, asking for a donation back,, man,, jeepers,, as set in my ways as i am, im not sure i would pulled the "Indiana giver" trip on him, wow,, Night you are most generous and for that i bow to your generousity, it was kind of you,, but i think at that point of sending it i would have moved on,, i gave the church 20 bucks a couple months ago and im still looking for my financial blessing i was promised,, not sure when it will arrive but i have to believe right,, i would never go back to the church and say hey this giving thing didnt work wheres my refund,, i just hope they put it to good use and be done with it,, sorry for the honesty dude but im really trying to get my post count up to master baiter so i can be accepted in here,, go kick the dog and move on bro,, smile,, j
<< <i>This seems to be an unfortunate misunderstanding. The original
donations thread link paints a clearer picture now, as the initial
wording was "in lieu of flowers, the family has asked for donations
to the children's college fund...."
The wording here is meant to imply, "please don't waste $50 on flowers
that will eventually be thrown away, but instead use that $50 towards
the kids' college education."
I think this was understandably misinterpreted as, "please feel free
to send money to help the kids get through college, as now it will
be a struggle."
I really think this is a misunderstanding and misinterpretation on the
giver's end. The money wasn't really needed to get the kids through
college, but any donations would be better spent on college, rather than
flowers.
I hope both sides can make amends, as life is too short. >>
Very Well Said! I agree with this poster on what is said. This board is a place to relax and enjoy the hobby even if you don't collect a certain grading companies cards.
Waiting on you....
"Live everyday, don't throw it away"
<< <i>I never expected when I made a donation that it was to someone who can spend 10k in a month on cards. I thought when I did it that Mike was more average, and less wealthy. >>
Why does this matter. If your giving to someone, it should be coming from the heart, and not because someone has 1 dollar or 1 million dollars. The request to donate to kids college fund in lieu of sending flowers is frankly a standard practice today.
I really don't understand the constant back and forth that exists on these boards. We are on this forum to talk, show and learn about a hobby we are all passionate about. What ever happened to the pure unadulterated joy of collecting?
Mike, it would be a HUGE shame if you allowed this incident to run you from these boards. This forum needs more people like yourself that are passionate about the hobby, but more so passionate about life in general. You have gone out of your way lately to make these boards a better place. I might not participate in everything you do, but I notice your efforts, and I appreciate them!
Why does this matter. If your giving to someone, it should be coming from the heart, and not because someone has 1 dollar or 1 million dollars. The request to donate to kids college fund in lieu of sending flowers is frankly a standard practice today.
I really don't understand the constant back and forth that exists on these boards. We are on this forum to talk, show and learn about a hobby we are all passionate about. What ever happened to the pure unadulterated joy of collecting?
Mike, it would be a HUGE shame if you allowed this incident to run you from these boards. This forum needs more people like yourself that are passionate about the hobby, but more so passionate about life in general. You have gone out of your way lately to make these boards a better place. I might not participate in everything you do, but I notice your efforts, and I appreciate them!
+1
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
<< <i>This seems to be an unfortunate misunderstanding. The original
donations thread link paints a clearer picture now, as the initial
wording was "in lieu of flowers, the family has asked for donations
to the children's college fund...."
The wording here is meant to imply, "please don't waste $50 on flowers
that will eventually be thrown away, but instead use that $50 towards
the kids' college education."
I think this was understandably misinterpreted as, "please feel free
to send money to help the kids get through college, as now it will
be a struggle."
I really think this is a misunderstanding and misinterpretation on the
giver's end. The money wasn't really needed to get the kids through
college, but any donations would be better spent on college, rather than
flowers.
I hope both sides can make amends, as life is too short. >>
+1
I will overnight Trent a check as soon as he calls.
Just another nice little Saturday...
"Live everyday, don't throw it away"
~WalterSobchak
<< <i>This seems to be an unfortunate misunderstanding. The original
donations thread link paints a clearer picture now, as the initial
wording was "in lieu of flowers, the family has asked for donations
to the children's college fund...."
The wording here is meant to imply, "please don't waste $50 on flowers
that will eventually be thrown away, but instead use that $50 towards
the kids' college education."
I think this was understandably misinterpreted as, "please feel free
to send money to help the kids get through college, as now it will
be a struggle."
I really think this is a misunderstanding and misinterpretation on the
giver's end. The money wasn't really needed to get the kids through
college, but any donations would be better spent on college, rather than
flowers.
I hope both sides can make amends, as life is too short. >>
I read the first page or so and then I had to go to my parents for a couple hours. While I was gone I was thinking of what to write when I got back. The above was exactly what I was going to post. This was almost word for word: "please don't waste $50 on flowers that will eventually be thrown away, but instead use that $50 towards the kids' college education."
I can see how Trent thought that it meant "please feel free to send money to help the kids get through college, as now it will be a struggle."
During my time on these boards I have had great experiences with both these guys and consider them both friends. I know they both have hearts of gold and they are BOTH GENEROUS people. I guess when Trent THOUGHT that he read that the family was on hard financial times he send in a wad of money to help. I can understand how he got upset when he realized Mike was OK financially. However, Trent may have been better off wording his PM a little differently.
I can also understand how Mike got pissed off when he received the eMail, since he never stated he needed the money.
Guys, I think this is a case of a BIG MISUNDERSTANDING and I hope the two of you can put it behind you. I'm not asking that you guys become best of friends, you don't have to kiss and make up, but hopefully you can both admit it was a mistake.
You are both nice guys ... contributors to these boards ... very generous when it comes to helping others. Maybe Trent was just in a bad state of mind when he wrote the PM. Mike is understandably upset, as Michelle's passing is so recent and it must be tough to deal with.
Of course it's up to the two of you, but I hope in time you can both understand where the other was coming from.
Doug
Liquidating my collection for the 3rd and final time. Time for others to enjoy what I have enjoyed over the last several decades. Money could be put to better use.
<< <i>Why does this matter. If your giving to someone, it should be coming from the heart, and not because someone has 1 dollar or 1 million dollars. The request to donate to kids college fund in lieu of sending flowers is frankly a standard practice today. I really don't understand the constant back and forth that exists on these boards. We are on this forum to talk, show and learn about a hobby we are all passionate about. What ever happened to the pure unadulterated joy of collecting? Mike, it would be a HUGE shame if you allowed this incident to run you from these boards. This forum needs more people like yourself that are passionate about the hobby, but more so passionate about life in general. You have gone out of your way lately to make these boards a better place. I might not participate in everything you do, but I notice your efforts, and I appreciate them! >>
Well said Matt Miller!! I agree it would be loss if you left the boards Mike, not just you but for the whole CU family. I hope you decide to stay.
Sorry Mike, this happened to you.
There is enough hurt in those words to chase a lot of people away from this forum.
Joe
Charities if Brent only knew what I assist with charities on. I was the top fund raiser for the Low Country Komen Foundation. I raised the most out of everyone.
I didn't even know about this until a couple weeks ago when Brent decided to let me know about the contribution he made. I thanked him extensively and said it was way too much. Maybe he is going through financial struggles.
Last year when the cyclist was raising money I contributed as well as a few others. There wasn't a huge turn out, so I offered that anyone that made $100 donation I would send them $150 worth of cards. Now who do you think that person was?????
Yup you guessed it, Mr Nightcrawler himself. He did receive his cards and thanked me for them.
Brent you should have just said something about the money, and I would have no issue with it. The problem is you are a troublemaker as you have been for many on here, and you imply I used my wife's illness to dupe you and others.
I have know Idea who donated what. I'm thankful you contributed, and have zero issue sending you it back. None whatsoever.
If you fond a better cause for it good for you. But I think you should apologize for accusing me of being deceitful. I am a very generous person because maybe like you, I enjoy helping others, and having fun.
Go read the threads. This board really helped me mentally and emotionally while I endured the most horrific struggles in my life. I will forever be thankful for that. That's why I wanted to do these February contests. A way to say thanks for your love and support. I didn't know being a member here you had to disclose your financials, nor did I know you need to do that when your spouse dies.
Everyone I think except for you knows who I am, because I'm honest and trustworthy. The thing you accused me of especially with the subject matter is really a low blow. If you were a real man you would come here and apologize and we can move on. Call me you have my number.
I shared some of my collection because I've wanted to for along time. 10 years ago I was using change to get a cheeseburger and get gas, I worked hard to get to where I am at. And I'm trying to make a living in this cardboard business.
Hopefully we can resolve this quickly, I hold no grudges, and I look forward to your phone call.
Mike.
"Live everyday, don't throw it away"
<< <i>Who is Brent? I thought I was following pretty well until that >>
Stop iPhone smart type silly
"Live everyday, don't throw it away"
<< <i>I like how just over a week ago the OP was posting the need for less drama on this board and now he is the one feeding the fire . >>
<< <i>...when things like this happens to a family, friends and loved ones want to offer their condolences through donations. Rather than giving hundreds of dead plants, why not donate to a child's college tuition? Regardless of how wealthy or successful someone is. It's something that people want to offer to someone who is grieving... >>
Someone said it before, but this is the salient point. I think I would feel the same as Mike - it's not easy to let something like this not get under your skin.
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<< <i>Who is Brent? I thought I was following pretty well until that >>
Stop iPhone smart type silly >>
Understood, I hate that feature on the IPAD. Would someone mind sharing how to turn that feature off for those of us like myself that are technoliogically challenged?
<< <i>I like how just over a week ago the OP was posting the need for less drama on this board and now he is the one feeding the fire when all of this was being dealt with through PMs to start with. Demanding public apologies, spraining his arm patting himself on the back, threats to leave the board. Nobody needed to read all of this but I sure am glad you posted it on a Saturday so it did not get poofed too quickly. >>
I hear ya, I didn't want this crap either. I just don't want others thinking that, as it's a million percent false and wrong. I hate the Fing drama. And I'm not patting myself on the back just stating facts. You know that HH, so do you PM.
"Live everyday, don't throw it away"
Dodgers collection scans | Brett Butler registry | 1978 Dodgers - straight 9s, homie
<< <i>I like how just over a week ago the OP was posting the need for less drama on this board and now he is the one feeding the fire when all of this was being dealt with through PMs to start with. Demanding public apologies, spraining his arm patting himself on the back, threats to leave the board. Nobody needed to read all of this but I sure am glad you posted it on a Saturday so it did not get poofed too quickly. >>
I can see you going back however...
Please but yourself in Mike's shoes...
He feels devastated by this - he's a good guy who knew nothing of the generous amount of the donation by Trent and knew in his heart he was not trying to exploit the desperate situation for personal gain.
That's why I - now - stand on the idea that I wish this had stayed private.
edit: I can see why Trent is upset - since he wanted this to stay private.
One other thing regardless of what most people say about "Drama" it has and always been a HUGE part of the CU forums, this one in particular has been better than most though as it seems to be one of the very few that hasnt had the "Pile on" effect. I think this matter will work itself out sooner rather than later.
<< <i>It might be good for everyone to just take a deep breath. It's not like Ron Burgundy is selling trimmed cards or anything. >>
Excuse me, sir. The elephant at the end of the bar would like to buy you a drink.
Dodgers collection scans | Brett Butler registry | 1978 Dodgers - straight 9s, homie
And those Sox Fans above this post are smmmokkkkkin.
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<< <i>It might be good for everyone to just take a deep breath. It's not like Ron Burgundy is selling trimmed cards or anything. >>
Excuse me, sir. The elephant at the end of the bar would like to buy you a drink. >>
Now that's funny!