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MS-68 Walkers? Think I'll stick with MS-67, thanks!

ElmerFusterpuckElmerFusterpuck Posts: 4,780 ✭✭✭✭✭
I only have 2 in my collection and feel fortunate that I have them. This is my 1940 example, PCGS OGH MS-67, finally got an image that does it justice. Some coins just need 3 lamps instead of two.

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  • Bankerbob56Bankerbob56 Posts: 1,397 ✭✭✭
    very nice....

    i saw a few 68's on the bay this week!!!
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  • JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,852 ✭✭✭✭✭
    VERY nice Erik. My 1940-P in 67 Is one of my favorite coins. MJ
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  • MidLifeCrisisMidLifeCrisis Posts: 10,550 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Nice coin! image
  • keyman64keyman64 Posts: 15,521 ✭✭✭✭✭
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  • breakdownbreakdown Posts: 2,247 ✭✭✭✭✭
    A great looking coin -- thanks for sharing. With 67s like this, I would agree with your thread title. image

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  • SwampboySwampboy Posts: 13,096 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Awesome.
    That would be the class of the field IMO.

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  • relicsncoinsrelicsncoins Posts: 8,103 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I have yet to submitt anything for a bean, but if I owned that, I think I would submitt it. Preserve the old holder and potentially add value to the coin.
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  • SoCalBigMarkSoCalBigMark Posts: 2,797 ✭✭✭✭✭
    One of the hardest series to grade, right up there with the Indians...
  • nwcoastnwcoast Posts: 2,884 ✭✭✭✭✭
    What an amazing coin....
    Strong strike...
    Beautiful design...
    Clean fields and lustre....
    Supurb toning....and excellent lighting and photography to compliment it all!!!

    It has it all!!

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  • My 1940 WLH is pictured below. All I can say for yours is absolutely beautiful.

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  • LucanusLucanus Posts: 424 ✭✭✭
    Stunning!!!

    Doug
  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Amazing WLH...even with the tarnish... Cheers, RickO
  • BUFFNIXXBUFFNIXX Posts: 2,726 ✭✭✭✭✭
    ms68 is more of an illusion than a grade
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  • SonorandesertratSonorandesertrat Posts: 5,695 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Beautiful coin. 67 should be enough for most collectors. Higher grades are talked about because of registry sets.
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  • TomBTomB Posts: 22,022 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That's a very pretty coin.
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  • SkyManSkyMan Posts: 9,493 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Lovely Walker!!! image
  • mkman123mkman123 Posts: 6,849 ✭✭✭✭
    Beautiful coin!
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  • ElcontadorElcontador Posts: 7,673 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The Walker I have in my type set is a 36 S in PC 6. It was dipped and is properly graded. You have one gorgeous coin. The difference between yours and mine is that mine has two small contact marks on the Eagle's lt. wing, while yours does not.

    If someone has a Walker which is graded higher than your coin, I would be 'curious' as to why it received such a grade.
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  • OldEastsideOldEastside Posts: 4,602 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Amazing WLH...even with the tarnish... Cheers, RickO >>



    I'd print this out, you could probably get a 20% premium if you ever
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    Very sweet Walker

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  • << <i>The Walker I have in my type set is a 36 S in PC 6. It was dipped and is properly graded. You have one gorgeous coin. The difference between yours and mine is that mine has two small contact marks on the Eagle's lt. wing, while yours does not.

    If someone has a Walker which is graded higher than your coin, I would be 'curious' as to why it received such a grade. >>

    They grade the toned ones high which they shouldnt. Toning has zilch to do with grades.
  • SpkrmakrSpkrmakr Posts: 107 ✭✭✭
    Absolutely incredible piece! The only that might have been better was a "Rattler."
    Spkrmakr
  • stmanstman Posts: 11,352 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That's a Very attractive Walker. Just how I like them. I don't care for the wild ones. But I understand some folks might get a "flashback" from the wild ones. image I have a 1940 in 67 I like a lot, and would love to own yours as well.
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  • WalkerfanWalkerfan Posts: 9,680 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I can't tell the difference between a MS 67 & MS 68 other than the extra 3-5 grand that you will pay for it!

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  • BryceMBryceM Posts: 11,851 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Just yesterday I got a 1940 in MS67 to be a highlight of my type set. Yours is really great. Ricko cracks me up. Really a tremendous coin and a good photo too.
  • TWQGTWQG Posts: 3,145 ✭✭
    Great looking coin! Head and shoulders nicer than a 40 in 67 OGH I looked at today.
  • RodebaughRodebaugh Posts: 304 ✭✭✭
    Just silly nice.
    Great coin sir,

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  • bestclser1bestclser1 Posts: 5,566 ✭✭✭
    Stman,Do not look at this picture as you will not like it because it is too wild!Best,Lloydimage
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  • AuroraBorealisAuroraBorealis Posts: 3,591 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Beautiful Walker! Nice shot too...

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  • Very sweet WLH! Thanks for sharing.

    Garrow
  • orevilleoreville Posts: 12,130 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I have a 1940 walker in PCGS ms-68 OGH which was also green stickered.

    The main difference between your top drawer 67 and a real 68 is the strike. 68 graded walkers are HAMMERED and have a total absence of bag marks to the naked eye.

    that is it for the difference.

    I bought mine almost 10 years ago for less than $2500 when the price difference between 67 and 68 made some sense.

    But yours is an outstanding 67 And you should be justifiably proud of it. indeed at the current price levels it is priced at a bargain compared to the 68.

    As a last thought, there are as many collectors who feel that collecting 66 walkers is a no brainer compared to spending the money for all 67 walkers. The same principal applies here. 66 walkers look great too and are bargain priced compared to 67. This is what makes walkers such a great series. There is something for everyone.
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  • FilamCoinsFilamCoins Posts: 1,900 ✭✭✭

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  • << <i>I have a 1940 walker in PCGS ms-68 OGH which was also green stickered.

    The main difference between your top drawer 67 and a real 68 is the strike. 68 graded walkers are HAMMERED and have a total absence of bag marks to the naked eye.

    that is it for the difference.

    I bought mine almost 10 years ago for less than $2500 when the price difference between 67 and 68 made some sense.

    But yours is an outstanding 67 And you should be justifiably proud of it. indeed at the current price levels it is priced at a bargain compared to the 68.

    As a last thought, there are as many collectors who feel that collecting 66 walkers is a no brainer compared to spending the money for all 67 walkers. The same principal applies here. 66 walkers look great too and are bargain priced compared to 67. This is what makes walkers such a great series. There is something for everyone. >>

    Why not post a picture so we can compare strikes? image
  • crypto79crypto79 Posts: 8,623
    I personally think MS61 is a "MEGA" grade but I have to admit that a superb gem Walker is about as good as it gets save the St Gaudens
  • BUFFNIXXBUFFNIXX Posts: 2,726 ✭✭✭✭✭
    From my humble perspective for most collector coins, paying the huge multi thousand dollar premium for ms68 vs ms67 pcgs and ngc coins is not worth it. I have seen so many pristine ms67 1938-d buffalo nickels that stack up well against any of the so-called ms68's from pcgs and ngc that I have seen auctioned for moon money. But I guess if you are building a registry set you have to go after the big fish, in this case what the label says is really more important than the coin itself.
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  • JJMJJM Posts: 8,088 ✭✭✭✭✭
    thats a really sweet Walker ya got there !!!!!!
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    << <i>I have a 1940 walker in PCGS ms-68 OGH which was also green stickered.

    The main difference between your top drawer 67 and a real 68 is the strike. 68 graded walkers are HAMMERED and have a total absence of bag marks to the naked eye.

    that is it for the difference.

    I bought mine almost 10 years ago for less than $2500 when the price difference between 67 and 68 made some sense.

    But yours is an outstanding 67 And you should be justifiably proud of it. indeed at the current price levels it is priced at a bargain compared to the 68.

    As a last thought, there are as many collectors who feel that collecting 66 walkers is a no brainer compared to spending the money for all 67 walkers. The same principal applies here. 66 walkers look great too and are bargain priced compared to 67. This is what makes walkers such a great series. There is something for everyone. >>



    I totally agree with your last paragraph. WLHs are such a fun series for many different reasons. You can get nice MS examples on any budget - and the series looks nice as part of circulated collections, like the one pictured in this thread and the one LM is working on.

    I disagree with your assertion about the strike being the difference. I base my disagreement on my 1940 in 68 (pix of all my 68s are on the registry page). The OP's half has a stronger strike.

    IMHO, the difference in 67 vs 68 is a combination of factors. One of the more important factors is the colors displayed on the coin. It would seem that 68s possessing colors (You don't need colors for a 68 - my 41 in 68 is absolutely sans color and is an exceptionally pleasing coin, IMHO) feature the blues, yellows, and lavenders - and may also feature some iridescence along the rims. This type of look for a color half seems to be a requirement for the 68 level.

    No question about it - the OP's half dollar is a beauty.
  • orevilleoreville Posts: 12,130 ✭✭✭✭✭
    this is the reverse side of my 1940 PCGS MS-68 OGH walker.

    look at the belly or the area right abovelawed rear clawed feet of the eagle. the details are as complete as a walker will ever be save for a proof walker. Compare it to the MS-67 walker reverse eagle belly/area above the rear clawed feet. there is a difference.

    Also look at the front leg all the way down to the front clawed feet. The detail in the 68 walker is astonishing.

    Third, look at the detail of the feet! Every little detail is present, especially the rear feet!

    These are just three examples of the differences in strike. My ms-68 walker is not one of those with wild color or unusual toning, just a nice pleasing looking coin for the grade with great strike. Ok, the color is of a lovely toning but I have seen such toning on wonderful MS-63 walkers which by the way, happen to be my favorite grade of all walkers! LOL.

    hope this helps. I do not have a picture of the obverse as somehow I lost it.

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  • kazkaz Posts: 9,246 ✭✭✭✭✭
    beautiful coin in the o.p., and interesting posts. why I hang around here.
  • ElmerFusterpuckElmerFusterpuck Posts: 4,780 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Fun to see this thread still going! Oreville, that IS a hammered reverse. I also look for that too; finding these halves with a decent thumb AND eagle is difficult for many years. I've seen many a half with a nice hand in the front and a smooth eagle's breast and/or leg on the reverse. Nowadays, I'll pass on those examples.

    Looks like I'll need to get some Plast-X going on my slab for the 1940, those are smudges in that area.
  • orevilleoreville Posts: 12,130 ✭✭✭✭✭
    ElmerFusterpuck,

    indeed it did look like there was some smudges in your plastic covering The eagle's front leg.
    That doesn't just come off with a little wipe of a tissue paper? LOL.
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  • Great looking coin, I will compare all of my nicer raw Walkers to it from now on to see how close or how far they are from this grade.
  • breakdownbreakdown Posts: 2,247 ✭✭✭✭✭
    There really are some beautiful later date Walkers out there Some are in PCGS MS68 holders -- I have come close but not pulled the trigger on any. If you look at JBN's registry set, you will see a few of them. You can also see some beauties in the archived Pinnacle Rarities gallery -- check out the Dawson Oskey Walkers, for instance. Or the GBW set. MJ has some outstanding later date Walkers as well, although I can't recall the grades at the moment.
    On the other hand, as additional MS68s have been awarded over the last few years, I have also seen some MS68s that are head-scratchers and I believe some of these have diluted the value of the ones that really deserve the special grade. Nice coins but not worth the significant premium. Nonetheless, I have no problem with a discerning Walker collector landing a really special MS68 Walker and paying what's required to do it. Yes, the registry has something to do with the prices but there really are some stunning coins in 68 holders.

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