As some of you probably know, the lion's share of known 1732 and 1733 Mexico 8 reales (the key dates in the series) come from the salvage of the 1733 Fleet, which was located off Florida. Their abysmal typical condition and hard-to-read surfaces provided the entree into the market for some fairly persuasive 1732 and 1733 counterfeits, which imitate a shipwreck coin's texture and color. Those two dates are ones for which, even moreso than usual, expert authentication is mandatory.
Ones like the one depicted are so rare as to essentially not exist.
OK -- so since people have posted a few Escudos, how about this one -- a die trail of a contemporary counterfeit 8 escudos, and to keep it US related it is struck over a US Classic Head Large Cent:
<< <i>Wow OchoReales -- some teriffic coins there.
OK -- so since people have posted a few Escudos, how about this one -- a die trail of a contemporary counterfeit 8 escudos, and to keep it US related it is struck over a US Classic Head Large Cent:
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Thanks for the compliment Dave, and what an UBER COOL COIN! I've been a serious collector of Bolivia since '04. I actually started collecting Bolivia a few months before meeting my wife (who, as it turns out, is from BOLIVIA). We visited there last December and now, through a series of events, have the VP from Banco Central arranging to have a meeting with us this coming August to discuss using my collection (pictorially) to accompany the text of the next printing of their book. The last printing (1999) just sold out about a year ago. We are also in discussion about printing a catalog for the 2013 Exposition in Potosi to commemorate the 200th anniversary of the minting of the first independent coinage of S. America (Rio de La Plata, struck in Potosi)., also using the pictures from my collection. I'll try to post images of my set of R.d L.P. 1/2 through 8 Reales later today. In the meantime...
The cornerstone of my collection!
1630 8 Reales Royal issue Potosi (Bolivia) NGC AU55. The FIRST dated Royal of the entire Spanish New World and the finest of 4 extant pieces!
<< <i>Wow OchoReales -- some teriffic coins there.
OK -- so since people have posted a few Escudos, how about this one -- a die trail of a contemporary counterfeit 8 escudos, and to keep it US related it is struck over a US Classic Head Large Cent:
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Thanks for the compliment Dave, and what an UBER COOL COIN! I've been a serious collector of Bolivia since '04. I actually started collecting Bolivia a few months before meeting my wife (who, as it turns out, is from BOLIVIA). We visited there last December and now, through a series of events, have the VP from Banco Central arranging to have a meeting with us this coming August to discuss using my collection (pictorially) to accompany the text of the next printing of their book. The last printing (1999) just sold out about a year ago. We are also in discussion about printing a catalog for the 2013 Exposition in Potosi to commemorate the 200th anniversary of the minting of the first independent coinage of S. America (Rio de La Plata, struck in Potosi)., also using the pictures from my collection. I'll try to post images of my set of R.d L.P. 1/2 through 8 Reales later today. In the meantime...
The cornerstone of my collection!
1630 8 Reales Royal issue Potosi (Bolivia) NGC AU55. The FIRST dated Royal of the entire Spanish New World and the finest of 4 extant pieces! >>
I have a 1738 one bit around here some place. If I find it, I'll post some pics. Given to me by my uncle in the early 60's it is still the oldest coin in my collection.
I also found this piece in my stack of love tokens. Same size as the half dimes, but a century older at 1782. Obviously this has seen better days, why it has 5 holes in it is unknown to me. At least the Mexico City mint mark is clearly visible. If anyone can give me more info on this and why it is holed, I'd appreciate it.
“In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock." - Thomas Jefferson
Found the other piece...sorry for the quick shots thru a very old 2x2 - the brown material on the obverse has been there for 50 years and looks like rust.
“In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock." - Thomas Jefferson
Walker Proof Digital Album Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
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<< <i>Ryk, I'll take all of your fake coins off your hands so you can collect only real ones. You have my address right?
Get Real.
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<< <i>Ryk, I'll take all of your fake coins off your hands so you can collect only real ones. You have my address right?
Get Real.
I am just glad you two aren't meeting under the Mistletoe.
I give away money. I collect money.
I don’t love money . I do love the Lord God.
(Not Real but a close, gold cousin)
I give away money. I collect money.
I don’t love money . I do love the Lord God.
As some of you probably know, the lion's share of known 1732 and 1733 Mexico 8 reales (the key dates in the series) come from the salvage of the 1733 Fleet, which was located off Florida. Their abysmal typical condition and hard-to-read surfaces provided the entree into the market for some fairly persuasive 1732 and 1733 counterfeits, which imitate a shipwreck coin's texture and color. Those two dates are ones for which, even moreso than usual, expert authentication is mandatory.
Ones like the one depicted are so rare as to essentially not exist.
Betts medals, colonial coins, US Mint medals, foreign coins found in early America, and other numismatic Americana
<< <i>That is one of the nicest 8 reales from 1733 I have ever seen and a very rare date.......
Dan, its a beauty!
8 Reales Madness Collection
1767 Potosi (Bolivia) 8 Reales NGC EF 45 Condition Census for 6 Petal variety
1813 Potosi (Bolivia) 8 Reales UNC +/-
1814 Potosi (Bolivia) 8 Reales UNC +/-
1817 Potosi (Bolivia) 8 Reales UNC
1818 Potosi (Bolivia) 8 Reales CH UNC
1819 Potosi (Bolivia) 8 Reales CH UNC
1820 Potosi (Bolivia) 8 Reales UNC
1825 Potosi (Bolivia) 8 Reales NGC 61
1830 Bolivia 4 Soles CH UNC
1808 Potosi (Bolivia) 1 Escudo CH UNC
1767 Potosi (Bolivia) 2 Reales CH EF
1833 Bolivia 8 Soles CH UNC
1788 Potosi (Bolivia) 8 Reales NGC 63
1808 Potosi (Bolivia) 8 Reales UNC
1839 Bolivia 1/2 Scudo Ex.Caballeros de Las Indias UNC ish
1800 Potosi (Bolivia) 8 Reales CH UNC+
1791 Potosi (Bolivia) 8 Reales CH AU
1773 Potosi (Bolivia) 8 Reales Ex. Pittman UNC
1807 Potosi (Bolivia) 1/4 Real GEM UNC Finest Known of approx. 5 unholed specimens
1774 Potosi (Bolivia) 2 Reales AU
1767 Potosi (Bolivia) 1 Real CH VF
1767 Potosi (Bolivia) 8 Reales NGC AU 55 Ex. Paul Karon
1827 Bolivia 8 Soles 1st year of issue NGC 61
1807 Potosi (Bolivia) 4 Reales NGC 62 (forget the grade, look at the coin!) Ex. Whittier Collection
Yes, they are ALL mine.
Gary
1769/8 Bolivia (PTS) 4 Reales
Gary
OK -- so since people have posted a few Escudos, how about this one -- a die trail of a contemporary counterfeit 8 escudos, and to keep it US related it is struck over a US Classic Head Large Cent:
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<< <i>Wow OchoReales -- some teriffic coins there.
OK -- so since people have posted a few Escudos, how about this one -- a die trail of a contemporary counterfeit 8 escudos, and to keep it US related it is struck over a US Classic Head Large Cent:
Thanks for the compliment Dave, and what an UBER COOL COIN! I've been a serious collector of Bolivia since '04. I actually started collecting Bolivia a few months before meeting my wife (who, as it turns out, is from BOLIVIA). We visited there last December and now, through a series of events, have the VP from Banco Central arranging to have a meeting with us this coming August to discuss using my collection (pictorially) to accompany the text of the next printing of their book. The last printing (1999) just sold out about a year ago. We are also in discussion about printing a catalog for the 2013 Exposition in Potosi to commemorate the 200th anniversary of the minting of the first independent coinage of S. America (Rio de La Plata, struck in Potosi)., also using the pictures from my collection. I'll try to post images of my set of R.d L.P. 1/2 through 8 Reales later today. In the meantime...
The cornerstone of my collection!
1630 8 Reales Royal issue Potosi (Bolivia) NGC AU55. The FIRST dated Royal of the entire Spanish New World and the finest of 4 extant pieces!
Gary
<< <i>
<< <i>Wow OchoReales -- some teriffic coins there.
OK -- so since people have posted a few Escudos, how about this one -- a die trail of a contemporary counterfeit 8 escudos, and to keep it US related it is struck over a US Classic Head Large Cent:
Thanks for the compliment Dave, and what an UBER COOL COIN! I've been a serious collector of Bolivia since '04. I actually started collecting Bolivia a few months before meeting my wife (who, as it turns out, is from BOLIVIA). We visited there last December and now, through a series of events, have the VP from Banco Central arranging to have a meeting with us this coming August to discuss using my collection (pictorially) to accompany the text of the next printing of their book. The last printing (1999) just sold out about a year ago. We are also in discussion about printing a catalog for the 2013 Exposition in Potosi to commemorate the 200th anniversary of the minting of the first independent coinage of S. America (Rio de La Plata, struck in Potosi)., also using the pictures from my collection. I'll try to post images of my set of R.d L.P. 1/2 through 8 Reales later today. In the meantime...
The cornerstone of my collection!
1630 8 Reales Royal issue Potosi (Bolivia) NGC AU55. The FIRST dated Royal of the entire Spanish New World and the finest of 4 extant pieces!
All I can say is: Wowza!
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Technically, any Uncirculated or MS coins don't count, because they never "circulated" in Colonial times!
......I collect old stuff......
I also found this piece in my stack of love tokens. Same size as the half dimes, but a century older at 1782. Obviously this has seen better days, why it has 5 holes in it is unknown to me. At least the Mexico City mint mark is clearly visible. If anyone can give me more info on this and why it is holed, I'd appreciate it.
“In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock." - Thomas Jefferson
My digital cameo album 1950-64 Cameos - take a look!
“In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock." - Thomas Jefferson
My digital cameo album 1950-64 Cameos - take a look!
Latin American Collection
--Severian the Lame
Latin American Collection
Overland Trail Collection Showcase
Dahlonega Type Set-2008 PCGS Best Exhibited Set
Here are a few you would have enjoyed.
8 Reales Madness Collection
I give away money. I collect money.
I don’t love money . I do love the Lord God.
Latin American Collection
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Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
Not complete without a Pistareen
Latin American Collection
Spanish America 2 Reales 1776 Mexico City mint (silver, 27mm, 5.66gm)
The Mysterious Egyptian Magic Coin
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Latin American Collection
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I saw the date and had to grab it.
"Everything is on its way to somewhere. Everything." - George Malley, Phenomenon
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Latin American Collection
A super Argentinian 1S which is finest known by a mile
Latin American Collection
And it reminded me that Ireland used real and half-real for sixpence and threepence in the Irish inscription for those denominations.
The British three halfpence coins were not minted for Maundy money, but used in Jamaica for quarter reals or "Christian quatties".
Pacific Northwest Numismatic Association
I sold this coin a couple of months ago but I was so happy to own it for a while
Was raw before I got it slabbed
Non-shipwrecked (1556-1598) Mexico 8 Reales Cob