<< <i>The worse part, is any scammer can sell as many pictures of the 25th anniversary as they want--so a guy sells 100 sets he never had, never intended to have and just skips away into the night--so, in the best interest, i also think this is a very good idea for Ebay--it protects many more than it ends up hurting-but sellers who will have the sets, you just have to wait a bit. Its not the end of the world. >>
Am I being naive or is there a specific paper and electronic trail here for the recovery of losses by eBay?
I mean, unless your a dimwit and send out a money order to one of these sellers, your money goes into a PayPal account which is linked to a Bank Account which has a registered owner which leaves a trail.
New PayPal accounts have to supply some "proof" before large withdrawels are made.
Big money deals that turn out to be scams have a tendency to attract eBay's legal staff.
I decided to change calling the bathroom the John and renamed it the Jim. I feel so much better saying I went to the Jim this morning.
<< <i>So what are the guesses as far as prices go? Will they be more since all of the auctions will be in-hand auctions only? >>
I think it will have a negative affect price short term acceleration. They will all flood ebay at pretty much the same time. Smart ebay seller might wait till ebay supply drops.
<< <i>The worse part, is any scammer can sell as many pictures of the 25th anniversary as they want--so a guy sells 100 sets he never had, never intended to have and just skips away into the night--so, in the best interest, i also think this is a very good idea for Ebay--it protects many more than it ends up hurting-but sellers who will have the sets, you just have to wait a bit. Its not the end of the world. >>
Am I being naive or is there a specific paper and electronic trail here for the recovery of losses by eBay?
I mean, unless your a dimwit and send out a money order to one of these sellers, your money goes into a PayPal account which is linked to a Bank Account which has a registered owner which leaves a trail.
New PayPal accounts have to supply some "proof" before large withdrawels are made.
Big money deals that turn out to be scams have a tendency to attract eBay's legal staff. >>
I once told paypal that they are making a big mistake by not sending out press releases every time they catch a scammer. If word gets out at how easy it is for them to catch a crook, maybe there would be fewer crooks. I don't think they would be paying out some big claims if they weren't in fact recouping them themselves.
<< <i>So what are the guesses as far as prices go? Will they be more since all of the auctions will be in-hand auctions only? >>
I think it will have a negative affect price short term acceleration. They will all flood ebay at pretty much the same time. Smart ebay seller might wait till ebay supply drops. >>
So should someone who theoretically presold 3 sets for a 97% investment recoupe be happy? Not saying it was me...
<< <i>So what are the guesses as far as prices go? Will they be more since all of the auctions will be in-hand auctions only? >>
I think it will have a negative affect price short term acceleration. They will all flood ebay at pretty much the same time. Smart ebay seller might wait till ebay supply drops. >>
So should someone who theoretically presold 3 sets for a 97% investment recoupe be happy? Not saying it was me... >>
<< <i>So what are the guesses as far as prices go? Will they be more since all of the auctions will be in-hand auctions only? >>
I think it will have a negative affect price short term acceleration. They will all flood ebay at pretty much the same time. Smart ebay seller might wait till ebay supply drops. >>
So should someone who theoretically presold 3 sets for a 97% investment recoupe be happy? Not saying it was me... >>
one in the wallet is worth two in the bush. >>
Well, it's not realized yet. I consider it realized when a) buyer pays, b) I receive items from the mint, c) I send them to a buyer who leaves positive feedback. So I guess I have a "commitment" but nothing more. I suppose it's better than no commitment.
BTW, just had a thought. Most of these presellers probably don't have adequate sales feedback to get thier funds released so paypal will be sitting on the cash. Ebay owns paypal Thus, ebay has a reason to keep presales. --Jerry
<< <i>BTW, just had a thought. Most of these presellers probably don't have adequate sales feedback to get thier funds released so paypal will be sitting on the cash. Ebay owns paypal Thus, ebay has a reason to keep presales. --Jerry >>
good point, I'd be curious to know the dispute/claim rate on pre-sells vs. non pre-sells. Pre-sell claims/disputes may be eating up more resources than paypal/ebay find acceptable. You just know they've got bean counters looking at this kind of stuff.
Just looked at a few presales. A couple say "might be a bit over 30 days but I will ship immediately when I get them". This is a violation of ebay rules. You have to state unequivocally that you will ship within 30 days. If ebay decides that people can't guarantee shipment in 30 days that would be a reason they would end them.
<< <i>BTW, just had a thought. Most of these presellers probably don't have adequate sales feedback to get thier funds released so paypal will be sitting on the cash. Ebay owns paypal Thus, ebay has a reason to keep presales. --Jerry >>
good point, I'd be curious to know the dispute/claim rate on pre-sells vs. non pre-sells. Pre-sell claims/disputes may be eating up more resources than paypal/ebay find acceptable. You just know they've got bean counters looking at this kind of stuff. >>
eBay/PP should just have a standing policy that for presales, all listings that result in a completed listing be subject to a mandatory escrow until the items are shipped or delivered/received.
<< <i>EBay appears to be pulling all the listings. Sets for sale dropped from 254 an hour ago, down to 94. >>
now 24 seems like their pulling right now as I type >>
Really? LOL. It wasn't me, I'm busy watching a Spongebob marathon, but maybe somebody big enough was able to get ebay to enforce their own policy en masse.
Back in 1999 I got interested in the state quarters. I have benn doing some coin collecting since I was 13 years old along with using my metal detector. I started buying on eBay in 1999 and there was this person doing pre-sales on eBay. He was pre-selling coin 3 to 5 years before they were minted at a very cheap price. I try to figue out how he was making any money with the price he was selling his pre-sale auctions for. Back then, the interest rate was high and stock market was doing well. I thought well he has it figured out. Guess what, he did not have it figured out because the FBI called me about 8 months after he started his pre-sales. It seems he was taking my and everybody elses money but did not ship the coins to the buyers. The FBI got this person for fraud thru the Post Office, credit cards, eBay and received 5 years in Leavenworth in Kansas. So I have a sour taste in my mouth for pre-sales and I congratulate eBay for taking them off of there website. Just my opinion. Yes I lost money.
<< <i>eBay/PP should just have a standing policy that for presales, all listings that result in a completed listing be subject to a mandatory escrow until the items are shipped or delivered/received. >>
Short of banning pre-sales altogether, which I happen to think eBay should do, this is an excellent idea.
Wonder how the pre-sellers to some of the dealers, at $60-$100 over cost, per set, are feeling now? I wonder how many of those didn't go through or will be "canceled by the mint" (maybe to reappear later, though hard to track down)......?
<< <i>I guess ebay is enforcing its rules, I could only find about 10 presales tonight. There was between 100 and 200 this morning. About time! >>
What rule? >>
The new rule that says that if enough busy bodies don't like people preselling coins, it gives them the right to whine and complain to ebay until they remove all the auctions.
Ebay's rule on this clearly states the item will be removed if: "The listing is for an item that's not yet available to the public, and it doesn't clearly state it's a presale item." So, even though people are accurately describing them as "presales", ebay is removing them anyway in a clear contradiction to their own rules.
It will be interesting when people start receiving their coins in hand to watch the prices which will probably be in the $5000 range for a sealed box of 5 sets,
<< <i>eBay/PP should just have a standing policy that for presales, all listings that result in a completed listing be subject to a mandatory escrow until the items are shipped or delivered/received. >>
Short of banning pre-sales altogether, which I happen to think eBay should do, this is an excellent idea.
Russ, NCNE >>
Yeah...look at the recent pre sale of Gold Eagles by an established eBay seller, who stiffed the eBay winners for hundreds of thousand dollars. GET RID OF ALL US MINT RELATED PRE SALE ITEMS.
"Bongo drive 1984 Lincoln that looks like old coin dug from ground."
<< <i>I guess ebay is enforcing its rules, I could only find about 10 presales tonight. There was between 100 and 200 this morning. About time! >>
What rule? >>
The new rule that says that if enough busy bodies don't like people preselling coins, it gives them the right to whine and complain to ebay until they remove all the auctions.
Ebay's rule on this clearly states the item will be removed if: "The listing is for an item that's not yet available to the public, and it doesn't clearly state it's a presale item." So, even though people are accurately describing them as "presales", ebay is removing them anyway in a clear contradiction to their own rules. >>
Give it up old man. This all you know is preselling - some business model. Heres the policy - its unique
>>>> Because the 2011 25TH SILVER EAGLE ANNIVERSARY SET is in such high demand, requirements have been put in place for 2011 25TH SILVER EAGLE ANNIVERSARY SET sales. It has been reported that the MINT sold out of these within 5 hours. We understand that some sellers on eBay could have potentially placed their order in time, however we request that these coins are not listed unless they are in the physical possession of the seller. We also suggest the following:
- The listing needs to include a unique photo of the item or items, and your User ID needs to be clearly shown in the picture (watermarks will not be accepted).
- To ensure buyer protection, PayPal needs to be the only accepted form of payment.
We understand that you may not have known about these requirements. However, please note that future violations may result in a range of actions, including listing cancellation, limits on account privileges, account suspension, forfeiture of eBay fees on canceled listings, and loss of PowerSeller status.
<< <i>I guess ebay is enforcing its rules, I could only find about 10 presales tonight. There was between 100 and 200 this morning. About time! >>
What rule? >>
The new rule that says that if enough busy bodies don't like people preselling coins, it gives them the right to whine and complain to ebay until they remove all the auctions.
Ebay's rule on this clearly states the item will be removed if: "The listing is for an item that's not yet available to the public, and it doesn't clearly state it's a presale item." So, even though people are accurately describing them as "presales", ebay is removing them anyway in a clear contradiction to their own rules. >>
Give it up old man. This all you know is preselling - some business model. Heres the policy - its unique
>>>> Because the 2011 25TH SILVER EAGLE ANNIVERSARY SET is in such high demand, requirements have been put in place for 2011 25TH SILVER EAGLE ANNIVERSARY SET sales. It has been reported that the MINT sold out of these within 5 hours. We understand that some sellers on eBay could have potentially placed their order in time, however we request that these coins are not listed unless they are in the physical possession of the seller. We also suggest the following:
- The listing needs to include a unique photo of the item or items, and your User ID needs to be clearly shown in the picture (watermarks will not be accepted).
- To ensure buyer protection, PayPal needs to be the only accepted form of payment.
We understand that you may not have known about these requirements. However, please note that future violations may result in a range of actions, including listing cancellation, limits on account privileges, account suspension, forfeiture of eBay fees on canceled listings, and loss of PowerSeller status.
Thank you for your understanding and cooperation. >>
The only thing that's unique here is your stupidity - maybe mommy & daddy need to take away a few more of your privileges.
<< <i>I guess ebay is enforcing its rules, I could only find about 10 presales tonight. There was between 100 and 200 this morning. About time! >>
What rule? >>
The new rule that says that if enough busy bodies don't like people preselling coins, it gives them the right to whine and complain to ebay until they remove all the auctions.
Ebay's rule on this clearly states the item will be removed if: "The listing is for an item that's not yet available to the public, and it doesn't clearly state it's a presale item." So, even though people are accurately describing them as "presales", ebay is removing them anyway in a clear contradiction to their own rules. >>
Give it up old man. This all you know is preselling - some business model. Heres the policy - its unique
>>>> Because the 2011 25TH SILVER EAGLE ANNIVERSARY SET is in such high demand, requirements have been put in place for 2011 25TH SILVER EAGLE ANNIVERSARY SET sales. It has been reported that the MINT sold out of these within 5 hours. We understand that some sellers on eBay could have potentially placed their order in time, however we request that these coins are not listed unless they are in the physical possession of the seller. We also suggest the following:
- The listing needs to include a unique photo of the item or items, and your User ID needs to be clearly shown in the picture (watermarks will not be accepted).
- To ensure buyer protection, PayPal needs to be the only accepted form of payment.
We understand that you may not have known about these requirements. However, please note that future violations may result in a range of actions, including listing cancellation, limits on account privileges, account suspension, forfeiture of eBay fees on canceled listings, and loss of PowerSeller status.
Thank you for your understanding and cooperation. >>
The only thing that's unique here is your stupidity - maybe mommy & daddy need to take away a few more of your privileges. >>
What a TOOL. You sound like the whiner! Nobody gives a crap if you can presell these - what a fossil.
<< <i>I guess ebay is enforcing its rules, I could only find about 10 presales tonight. There was between 100 and 200 this morning. About time! >>
What rule? >>
The new rule that says that if enough busy bodies don't like people preselling coins, it gives them the right to whine and complain to ebay until they remove all the auctions.
Ebay's rule on this clearly states the item will be removed if: "The listing is for an item that's not yet available to the public, and it doesn't clearly state it's a presale item." So, even though people are accurately describing them as "presales", ebay is removing them anyway in a clear contradiction to their own rules. >>
Give it up old man. This all you know is preselling - some business model. Heres the policy - its unique
>>>> Because the 2011 25TH SILVER EAGLE ANNIVERSARY SET is in such high demand, requirements have been put in place for 2011 25TH SILVER EAGLE ANNIVERSARY SET sales. It has been reported that the MINT sold out of these within 5 hours. We understand that some sellers on eBay could have potentially placed their order in time, however we request that these coins are not listed unless they are in the physical possession of the seller. We also suggest the following:
- The listing needs to include a unique photo of the item or items, and your User ID needs to be clearly shown in the picture (watermarks will not be accepted).
- To ensure buyer protection, PayPal needs to be the only accepted form of payment.
We understand that you may not have known about these requirements. However, please note that future violations may result in a range of actions, including listing cancellation, limits on account privileges, account suspension, forfeiture of eBay fees on canceled listings, and loss of PowerSeller status.
Thank you for your understanding and cooperation. >>
The only thing that's unique here is your stupidity - maybe mommy & daddy need to take away a few more of your privileges. >>
What a TOOL. You sound like the whiner! Nobody gives a crap if you can presell these - what a fossil. >>
You say "Nobody gives a crap if you can presell these"... Well, I guess that makes you a 'Nobody" since you gave step by step instuctions in another thread on how to report "presellers" to eBay:
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<< <i>The worse part, is any scammer can sell as many pictures of the 25th anniversary as they want--so a guy sells 100 sets he never had, never intended to have and just skips away into the night--so, in the best interest, i also think this is a very good idea for Ebay--it protects many more than it ends up hurting-but sellers who will have the sets, you just have to wait a bit. Its not the end of the world. >>
Am I being naive or is there a specific paper and electronic trail here for the recovery of losses by eBay?
I mean, unless your a dimwit and send out a money order to one of these sellers, your money goes into a PayPal account which is linked to a Bank Account which has a registered owner which leaves a trail.
New PayPal accounts have to supply some "proof" before large withdrawels are made.
Big money deals that turn out to be scams have a tendency to attract eBay's legal staff.
The name is LEE!
<< <i>So what are the guesses as far as prices go? Will they be more since all of the auctions will be in-hand auctions only? >>
I think it will have a negative affect price short term acceleration. They will all flood ebay at pretty much the same time. Smart ebay seller might wait till ebay supply drops.
Exit bunker, enter Matrix. LOL
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<< <i>The worse part, is any scammer can sell as many pictures of the 25th anniversary as they want--so a guy sells 100 sets he never had, never intended to have and just skips away into the night--so, in the best interest, i also think this is a very good idea for Ebay--it protects many more than it ends up hurting-but sellers who will have the sets, you just have to wait a bit. Its not the end of the world. >>
Am I being naive or is there a specific paper and electronic trail here for the recovery of losses by eBay?
I mean, unless your a dimwit and send out a money order to one of these sellers, your money goes into a PayPal account which is linked to a Bank Account which has a registered owner which leaves a trail.
New PayPal accounts have to supply some "proof" before large withdrawels are made.
Big money deals that turn out to be scams have a tendency to attract eBay's legal staff. >>
I once told paypal that they are making a big mistake by not sending out press releases every time they catch a scammer. If word gets out at how easy it is for them to catch a crook, maybe there would be fewer crooks. I don't think they would be paying out some big claims if they weren't in fact recouping them themselves.
Exit bunker, enter Matrix. LOL
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<< <i>So what are the guesses as far as prices go? Will they be more since all of the auctions will be in-hand auctions only? >>
I think it will have a negative affect price short term acceleration. They will all flood ebay at pretty much the same time. Smart ebay seller might wait till ebay supply drops. >>
So should someone who theoretically presold 3 sets for a 97% investment recoupe be happy? Not saying it was me...
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<< <i>So what are the guesses as far as prices go? Will they be more since all of the auctions will be in-hand auctions only? >>
I think it will have a negative affect price short term acceleration. They will all flood ebay at pretty much the same time. Smart ebay seller might wait till ebay supply drops. >>
So should someone who theoretically presold 3 sets for a 97% investment recoupe be happy? Not saying it was me... >>
one in the wallet is worth two in the bush.
Exit bunker, enter Matrix. LOL
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<< <i>So what are the guesses as far as prices go? Will they be more since all of the auctions will be in-hand auctions only? >>
I think it will have a negative affect price short term acceleration. They will all flood ebay at pretty much the same time. Smart ebay seller might wait till ebay supply drops. >>
So should someone who theoretically presold 3 sets for a 97% investment recoupe be happy? Not saying it was me... >>
one in the wallet is worth two in the bush. >>
Well, it's not realized yet. I consider it realized when a) buyer pays, b) I receive items from the mint, c) I send them to a buyer who leaves positive feedback. So I guess I have a "commitment" but nothing more. I suppose it's better than no commitment.
<< <i>BTW, just had a thought. Most of these presellers probably don't have adequate sales feedback to get thier funds released so paypal will be sitting on the cash. Ebay owns paypal Thus, ebay has a reason to keep presales. --Jerry >>
good point, I'd be curious to know the dispute/claim rate on pre-sells vs. non pre-sells. Pre-sell claims/disputes may be eating up more resources than paypal/ebay find acceptable. You just know they've got bean counters looking at this kind of stuff.
Exit bunker, enter Matrix. LOL
--Jerry
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<< <i>Makes sense to me. >>
there are over 50 listings now for pre sale sets .. ebay is all screwed up
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<< <i>Makes sense to me. >>
there are over 50 listings now for pre sale sets .. ebay is all screwed up >>
Why do you say that?
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<< <i>BTW, just had a thought. Most of these presellers probably don't have adequate sales feedback to get thier funds released so paypal will be sitting on the cash. Ebay owns paypal Thus, ebay has a reason to keep presales. --Jerry >>
good point, I'd be curious to know the dispute/claim rate on pre-sells vs. non pre-sells. Pre-sell claims/disputes may be eating up more resources than paypal/ebay find acceptable. You just know they've got bean counters looking at this kind of stuff. >>
eBay/PP should just have a standing policy that for presales, all listings that result in a completed listing be subject to a mandatory escrow until the items are shipped or delivered/received.
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<< <i>Makes sense to me. >>
<< <i>some of these "sealed boxes' will be flipped more than once twice, thrice.... >>
Before long the major TPGs will be grading those boxes!
Then CAC will sticker those that are strong for their grade!
The name is LEE!
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<< <i>some of these "sealed boxes' will be flipped more than once twice, thrice.... >>
Before long the major TPGs will be grading those boxes!
Then CAC will sticker those that are strong for their grade!
CAC will not sticker modern crap. Only coins 1964 and prior.....
<< <i>EBay appears to be pulling all the listings. Sets for sale dropped from 254 an hour ago, down to 94. >>
now 24 seems like their pulling right now as I type
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<< <i>EBay appears to be pulling all the listings. Sets for sale dropped from 254 an hour ago, down to 94. >>
now 24 seems like their pulling right now as I type >>
Really? LOL. It wasn't me, I'm busy watching a Spongebob marathon, but maybe somebody big enough was able to get ebay to enforce their own policy en masse.
<< <i>EBay appears to be pulling all the listings. Sets for sale dropped from 254 an hour ago, down to 94. >>
WOW....24 now.....
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<< <i>EBay appears to be pulling all the listings. Sets for sale dropped from 254 an hour ago, down to 94. >>
now 24 seems like their pulling right now as I type >>
This seems rather sillyas it will impact way more than just these sets.
IIRC, the 2009 Lincoln Sets were all pre-sales.
Whatever. If they don't want the fee's, thats fine by me.
The name is LEE!
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<< <i>EBay appears to be pulling all the listings. Sets for sale dropped from 254 an hour ago, down to 94. >>
now 24 seems like their pulling right now as I type >>
This seems rather sillyas it will impact way more than just these sets.
IIRC, the 2009 Lincoln Sets were all pre-sales.
Whatever. If they don't want the fee's, thats fine by me. >>
They'll get your fees two weeks from now.
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<< <i>EBay appears to be pulling all the listings. Sets for sale dropped from 254 an hour ago, down to 94. >>
now 24 seems like their pulling right now as I type >>
This seems rather sillyas it will impact way more than just these sets.
IIRC, the 2009 Lincoln Sets were all pre-sales.
Whatever. If they don't want the fee's, thats fine by me. >>
They'll get your fees two weeks from now. >>
No they won't.
The name is LEE!
the full Mint confirmation # in the listing picture. lol... hows that for eBay compliance. oops.
Hoard the keys.
<< <i>eBay/PP should just have a standing policy that for presales, all listings that result in a completed listing be subject to a mandatory escrow until the items are shipped or delivered/received. >>
Short of banning pre-sales altogether, which I happen to think eBay should do, this is an excellent idea.
Russ, NCNE
<< <i>One set went for $600 a few minutes ago. This is crazy. >>
The 20th Anniversary sets peaked at over $800.
Russ, NCNE
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<< <i>One set went for $600 a few minutes ago. This is crazy. >>
The 20th Anniversary sets peaked at over $800.
Russ, NCNE >>
And they only had 3 coins, were only $100, had more minted, and took way longer to sell out
I guess ebay is enforcing its rules, I could only find about 10 presales tonight. There was between 100 and 200 this morning. About time!
<< <i>I guess ebay is enforcing its rules, I could only find about 10 presales tonight. There was between 100 and 200 this morning. About time! >>
What rule?
I wonder how many of those didn't go through or will be "canceled by the mint" (maybe to reappear later, though hard to track down)......?
I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment
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<< <i>I guess ebay is enforcing its rules, I could only find about 10 presales tonight. There was between 100 and 200 this morning. About time! >>
What rule? >>
The new rule that says that if enough busy bodies don't like people preselling coins, it gives them the right to whine and complain to ebay until they remove all the auctions.
Ebay's rule on this clearly states the item will be removed if: "The listing is for an item that's not yet available to the public, and it doesn't clearly state it's a presale item." So, even though people are accurately describing them as "presales", ebay is removing them anyway in a clear contradiction to their own rules.
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<< <i>eBay/PP should just have a standing policy that for presales, all listings that result in a completed listing be subject to a mandatory escrow until the items are shipped or delivered/received. >>
Short of banning pre-sales altogether, which I happen to think eBay should do, this is an excellent idea.
Russ, NCNE >>
Yeah...look at the recent pre sale of Gold Eagles by an established eBay seller, who stiffed the eBay winners for hundreds of thousand dollars.
GET RID OF ALL US MINT RELATED PRE SALE ITEMS.
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<< <i>I guess ebay is enforcing its rules, I could only find about 10 presales tonight. There was between 100 and 200 this morning. About time! >>
What rule? >>
The new rule that says that if enough busy bodies don't like people preselling coins, it gives them the right to whine and complain to ebay until they remove all the auctions.
Ebay's rule on this clearly states the item will be removed if: "The listing is for an item that's not yet available to the public, and it doesn't clearly state it's a presale item." So, even though people are accurately describing them as "presales", ebay is removing them anyway in a clear contradiction to their own rules. >>
Give it up old man. This all you know is preselling - some business model. Heres the policy - its unique
>>>>
Because the 2011 25TH SILVER EAGLE ANNIVERSARY SET is in such high demand, requirements have been put in place for 2011 25TH SILVER EAGLE ANNIVERSARY SET sales. It has been reported that the MINT sold out of these within 5 hours. We understand that some sellers on eBay could have potentially placed their order in time, however we request that these coins are not listed unless they are in the physical possession of the seller. We also suggest the following:
- The listing needs to include a unique photo of the item or items, and your User ID needs to be clearly shown in the picture (watermarks will not be accepted).
- To ensure buyer protection, PayPal needs to be the only accepted form of payment.
We understand that you may not have known about these requirements. However, please note that future violations may result in a range of actions, including listing cancellation, limits on account privileges, account suspension, forfeiture of eBay fees on canceled listings, and loss of PowerSeller status.
Thank you for your understanding and cooperation.
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<< <i>I guess ebay is enforcing its rules, I could only find about 10 presales tonight. There was between 100 and 200 this morning. About time! >>
What rule? >>
The new rule that says that if enough busy bodies don't like people preselling coins, it gives them the right to whine and complain to ebay until they remove all the auctions.
Ebay's rule on this clearly states the item will be removed if: "The listing is for an item that's not yet available to the public, and it doesn't clearly state it's a presale item." So, even though people are accurately describing them as "presales", ebay is removing them anyway in a clear contradiction to their own rules. >>
Give it up old man. This all you know is preselling - some business model. Heres the policy - its unique
>>>>
Because the 2011 25TH SILVER EAGLE ANNIVERSARY SET is in such high demand, requirements have been put in place for 2011 25TH SILVER EAGLE ANNIVERSARY SET sales. It has been reported that the MINT sold out of these within 5 hours. We understand that some sellers on eBay could have potentially placed their order in time, however we request that these coins are not listed unless they are in the physical possession of the seller. We also suggest the following:
- The listing needs to include a unique photo of the item or items, and your User ID needs to be clearly shown in the picture (watermarks will not be accepted).
- To ensure buyer protection, PayPal needs to be the only accepted form of payment.
We understand that you may not have known about these requirements. However, please note that future violations may result in a range of actions, including listing cancellation, limits on account privileges, account suspension, forfeiture of eBay fees on canceled listings, and loss of PowerSeller status.
Thank you for your understanding and cooperation. >>
The only thing that's unique here is your stupidity - maybe mommy & daddy need to take away a few more of your privileges.
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<< <i>I guess ebay is enforcing its rules, I could only find about 10 presales tonight. There was between 100 and 200 this morning. About time! >>
What rule? >>
The new rule that says that if enough busy bodies don't like people preselling coins, it gives them the right to whine and complain to ebay until they remove all the auctions.
Ebay's rule on this clearly states the item will be removed if: "The listing is for an item that's not yet available to the public, and it doesn't clearly state it's a presale item." So, even though people are accurately describing them as "presales", ebay is removing them anyway in a clear contradiction to their own rules. >>
Give it up old man. This all you know is preselling - some business model. Heres the policy - its unique
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Because the 2011 25TH SILVER EAGLE ANNIVERSARY SET is in such high demand, requirements have been put in place for 2011 25TH SILVER EAGLE ANNIVERSARY SET sales. It has been reported that the MINT sold out of these within 5 hours. We understand that some sellers on eBay could have potentially placed their order in time, however we request that these coins are not listed unless they are in the physical possession of the seller. We also suggest the following:
- The listing needs to include a unique photo of the item or items, and your User ID needs to be clearly shown in the picture (watermarks will not be accepted).
- To ensure buyer protection, PayPal needs to be the only accepted form of payment.
We understand that you may not have known about these requirements. However, please note that future violations may result in a range of actions, including listing cancellation, limits on account privileges, account suspension, forfeiture of eBay fees on canceled listings, and loss of PowerSeller status.
Thank you for your understanding and cooperation. >>
The only thing that's unique here is your stupidity - maybe mommy & daddy need to take away a few more of your privileges. >>
What a TOOL. You sound like the whiner! Nobody gives a crap if you can presell these - what a fossil.
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/me loves it!
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<< <i>I guess ebay is enforcing its rules, I could only find about 10 presales tonight. There was between 100 and 200 this morning. About time! >>
What rule? >>
The new rule that says that if enough busy bodies don't like people preselling coins, it gives them the right to whine and complain to ebay until they remove all the auctions.
Ebay's rule on this clearly states the item will be removed if: "The listing is for an item that's not yet available to the public, and it doesn't clearly state it's a presale item." So, even though people are accurately describing them as "presales", ebay is removing them anyway in a clear contradiction to their own rules. >>
Give it up old man. This all you know is preselling - some business model. Heres the policy - its unique
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Because the 2011 25TH SILVER EAGLE ANNIVERSARY SET is in such high demand, requirements have been put in place for 2011 25TH SILVER EAGLE ANNIVERSARY SET sales. It has been reported that the MINT sold out of these within 5 hours. We understand that some sellers on eBay could have potentially placed their order in time, however we request that these coins are not listed unless they are in the physical possession of the seller. We also suggest the following:
- The listing needs to include a unique photo of the item or items, and your User ID needs to be clearly shown in the picture (watermarks will not be accepted).
- To ensure buyer protection, PayPal needs to be the only accepted form of payment.
We understand that you may not have known about these requirements. However, please note that future violations may result in a range of actions, including listing cancellation, limits on account privileges, account suspension, forfeiture of eBay fees on canceled listings, and loss of PowerSeller status.
Thank you for your understanding and cooperation. >>
The only thing that's unique here is your stupidity - maybe mommy & daddy need to take away a few more of your privileges. >>
What a TOOL. You sound like the whiner! Nobody gives a crap if you can presell these - what a fossil. >>
You say "Nobody gives a crap if you can presell these"... Well, I guess that makes you a 'Nobody" since you gave step by step instuctions in another thread on how to report "presellers" to eBay:
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So, tell us, have you always been this hypocritical or is this something new?
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That, made me hungry and guffaw DerryB!