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Poll : Would you trade a $1,000 bag of 90% silver for gold? * Edited* Glad I traded at $39.50 silver

fivecentsfivecents Posts: 11,207 ✭✭✭✭✭
Would you trade a$1,000 bag of 90% silver for the equal value in gold?

**Edited**: I traded when silver was at $39.50 and gold was at $1,780. I traded even $1,000 face 90% for 15 one ounce gold eagles.

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  • mkman123mkman123 Posts: 6,849 ✭✭✭✭
    I see no option for trading half the bag and also what kind of gold? Govt or stuff like gold.commem coins?
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  • jmski52jmski52 Posts: 22,822 ✭✭✭✭✭
    What kinda gold? And how much of it?image
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  • derrybderryb Posts: 36,790 ✭✭✭✭✭
    buy high, sell low? I don't think so.

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  • fivecentsfivecents Posts: 11,207 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>What kinda gold? And how much of it?image >>

    Maples, krugs and AGEs(AGEs would carry a larger premium. I have not hammered down how much..yet.



    << <i>I see no option for trading half the bag and also what kind of gold? >>

    Not interested in trading a half bag. A full $1,000 bag of 90% silver brings much more money than a partial bag.

    One of my trusted dealers told me there is a lot of 90% silver over hanging the market right now. He was not interested in the trade. At least one dealer I know would be interested in the trade.
  • roadrunnerroadrunner Posts: 28,303 ✭✭✭✭✭
    In late April with the GSR at a lowly 31-34, the answer to this question would have been yes. In fact it was asked at that same time and most people would not
    give up their silver 100 oz bars. Then ensuing drop in silver gave gold a 45% net gain in comparison over the next few weeks. With the GSR still up around 43-45 it may yet
    bump into 47-50. But as derryb has suggested why make that trade for such a tiny potential reward?

    Some refiners are back logged for weeks and will not lock in prices until the silver is melted. You don't have that problem with .995 to .999 products. While 90% silver can
    be a convenient bartering tool in a shtf scenario, it also has the potential to tie you up in a non-shtf scenario as in a repeat of Dec 1979 - January 1980.

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  • fiveNdimefiveNdime Posts: 1,088 ✭✭
    no....
    ...maybe IF all of it was obtained at face or when silver was <$10
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  • bretts911bretts911 Posts: 764 ✭✭✭
    The poll is tied atm 50 50 never seen that before lol
  • percybpercyb Posts: 3,324 ✭✭✭✭
    I'd go 1/2 silver 1/2 gold or just keep the silver and buy gold with other cash.
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  • jmski52jmski52 Posts: 22,822 ✭✭✭✭✭
    90% is being traded at a discount to spot, gold coin is being traded at a premium to spot. Trading 90% for gold would result in the liquidation of silver at a discount in order to buy gold at a premium - even if the market value in dollar terms were equal.

    It is likely that the discounts and premiums will swing the other way and when they do, this trade would look worse and worse.

    My 90% is not available for such a trade.image
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  • gsa1fangsa1fan Posts: 5,566 ✭✭✭
    In a heart beatimage Of course I'm prejudice!image
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  • piecesofmepiecesofme Posts: 6,669 ✭✭✭
    Would you trade a $1,000 bag of 90% silver for the equal value in gold?

    A resounding HELL NO!. far more in the bag of 90% to go towards negotiation of price rather than just Spot + whatever % you're willing to pay. All...jmho.
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  • cohodkcohodk Posts: 19,100 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>In a heart beatimage Of course I'm prejudice!image >>



    "In a heartbeat" was the first thought that came to my head.


    The discount to spot for 90% will only widen if silver goes higher.
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  • StaircoinsStaircoins Posts: 2,566 ✭✭✭

    There is more upside to the 90% than to the gold right now, IMHO.

    Although there are other advantages to the gold, such as storage & convenience.

    All things considered, I'll keep the silver thankyouverymuch.

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  • ttownttown Posts: 4,472 ✭✭✭
    Strange they'd but backed up all of a sudden with silver no where near it's high. Makes me wonder if this isn't going to be the norm the rest of the year with the Asia market to open. They have to get their PM's from somewhere like the ETF's did when Buffet sold his holdings right before they opened. This will be interesting to see the results, Asia may call their PM's home with may be a hard order to fill if they want physical from the US and foreign holdings.

    Now to the question. Maybe but what we're seeing right now is how 79/80 was if we were to blow though the PM's here could you get out or would you be stuck since the refineries are at full capacity. That's one you need to ask yourself but going though 79/80 taught me I sure wouldn't want to have a bunch of 100 oz silver door stops if this thing went ballistic and then dropped very fast for the next 2 or 3 decades. Although if I were to get stuck with silver something you could make circulated sets out of would be more to my hobby likings.

    If the gold was pre 33 stuff I'd stick with the gold it will never be the price of gold on the downturn. If it's bullion then you have what you have "spot". Modern Comm's maybe somewhere in between the two in my mind. There's really no right answer and this is something that while good for some wouldn't be for others.

    I do believe silver has the most upside but ASE and pure bullion going that don't have to be refined maybe the best. Good Luck to all of us, maybe we can retire someday image
  • BaleyBaley Posts: 22,660 ✭✭✭✭✭
    going though 79/80 taught me I sure wouldn't want to have a bunch of 100 oz silver door stops if this thing went ballistic and then dropped very fast for the next 2 or 3 decades.

    Some of us remember that previous bandwagon, and what happened when it stopped. Apparently, "this time it's different" though image funny, last time it was also "different" until it wasn't

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  • pursuitoflibertypursuitofliberty Posts: 6,909 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Not today ... but given the right market circumstances ...



    this ...

    90% is being traded at a discount to spot, gold coin is being traded at a premium to spot. Trading 90% for gold would result in the liquidation of silver at a discount in order to buy gold at a premium - even if the market value in dollar terms were equal.

    and this ...

    In late April with the GSR at a lowly 31-34, the answer to this question would have been yes. In fact it was asked at that same time and most people would not
    give up their silver 100 oz bars. Then ensuing drop in silver gave gold a 45% net gain in comparison over the next few weeks. With the GSR still up around 43-45 it may yet bump into 47-50. But as derryb has suggested why make that trade for such a tiny potential reward?


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  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 28,303 ✭✭✭✭✭
    if it was a good deal for me not to pass up then yes
  • fivecentsfivecents Posts: 11,207 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Thanks for all input and votes.

    I am still on the fence as to what I am going to do. I believe the best choice would be to hold and wait for silver to rise. But darn I REALLY like gold.
  • mkman123mkman123 Posts: 6,849 ✭✭✭✭
    I say dump 500 FV 90% and get yourself some gold that way you have both gold and silver. With the gold perhaps get a mix of bullion and pre33 numismatic that is slabbed and as close to melt as possible or slight premium.

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  • fivecentsfivecents Posts: 11,207 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Did the trade at $39.50 silver. Traded my $1,000 bag of silver (all halves) for 15 one ounce AGEs.


  • << <i>Did the trade at $39.50 silver. >>



    Good timing! image
  • BaleyBaley Posts: 22,660 ✭✭✭✭✭
    So, the $1000 bag of silver had 715 or 723 ounces of silver at $39.50 which was $28,242.50 or $28,558.50...

    and the 15 oz. gold ($28,500/15 is $1900/coin) at spot is now $24,447.50, add maybe $100/coin premium over spot (is this in the ballpark??) and you're at about $26K

    Versus the silver bag which has gone down to $21,450 or $21,690 since the trade.

    Yes, good trade, almost as good as if you'd traded the bag of silver for cash image

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  • OPAOPA Posts: 17,119 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Did the trade at $39.50 silver. Traded my $1,000 bag of silver (all halves) for 15 one ounce AGEs. >>



    Excellent move for the moment, but I would have done the cash deal instead. For the foreseeable future, CASH will remain KING. Lets come back in 6 month & do the recalculation based on then current prices.
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  • CoinCoinsCoinCoins Posts: 698 ✭✭✭
    figure you traded at 45:1

    it's 54:1 now

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  • fivecentsfivecents Posts: 11,207 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Excellent move for the moment, but I would have done the cash deal instead. For the foreseeable future, CASH will remain KING. Lets come back in 6 month & do the recalculation based on then current prices. >>

    I thought I would revisit this thread per OPAs request.
  • jmski52jmski52 Posts: 22,822 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I come up with a difference of about 20% in money that you didn't lose as the prices of gold & silver dropped. Congrats!
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  • OPAOPA Posts: 17,119 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I come up with a difference of about 20% in money that you didn't lose as the prices of gold & silver dropped. Congrats! >>



    Yes...but the cash deal would have been a non looser unlike the trade deal.
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  • mkman123mkman123 Posts: 6,849 ✭✭✭✭
    great choice but none of us could have known. Could have went the other way, etc
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