Just picked up the twin brother to Jim's #600 Rod Carew PSA 9 from (Calinick). Amazing how he had 3 Carew's looking so nice. Cert#'s (last 3 digits) 782 (Duff),783 (Indy),784 (MiniMaster). I think Indy has the best 8 of #600. Surprising two of them get 9's and the 8, which has a hint of white lower right corner (which is allowable in a 9) doesn't get at least an 8.5? Thank You Calinick! Keep them coming!
Nice job on that Carew, MM! I saw it pop up on eBay, and figured it would go real quickly.
I'm really happy with my 8; I saw it while sitting on the train ride home from work and couldn't hit the BIN quickly enough. I have recently graded 9's of other mini's in my collection that don't look as nice as that Carew 8.
I also purchased the Rose mini #320 and the Ryan mini #500 from Calinick. They look like they came from the same print run/case as the Carews, especially the Ryan (judging from the back scan, which shows a similar tilt and similar centering). The Ryan has a bit of a diamond cut to it (a bit more prominent than the Carew's diamond cut), but I swear, it's as clean and clear as any Ryan I've ever seen. I took a look at past sales and images of the Ryan's in PSA 8 and PSA 9 on VCP, and this Ryan looks as good as many 9's, which incidentally also have a similar diamond cut. As soon as I have the new cards in hand, I'll post pics of them.
No problem, I almost kept the last Carew. Unfortunately my horde of mini's has dwindled significantly as of late(at least the minty ones). I'm in the process of going back through them all trying to find any hidden gems I may have missed. I'm confident I can put together at least one or two more nice subs to PSA.
Had a bigger sub pop today -- not so pleased with results. A few good ones, but I had hoped for better. No let up on sizing standards (for sure). Most of these came from another board member - Julen23. Surprised about the 5's, but Yount had a dimple.....
Order #20565641 / Submission #722527 Line # Item # Cert # Grade Description Type 1 1 19323717 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS MINI 4 '74 HIGHLIGHTS AL KALINE Card 2 1 19323718 MINT 9 1975 TOPPS MINI 9 FRANK TEPEDINO Card 3 1 19323719 N1: EVIDENCE OF TRIMMING 1975 TOPPS MINI 20 THURMAN MUNSON Card 4 1 19323720 N6: MINIMUM SIZE REQUIREMENT 1975 TOPPS MINI 18 TIGERS TEAM RALPH HOUK, MGR. Card 5 1 19323721 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS MINI 29 DAVE PARKER Card 6 1 19323722 MINT 9 1975 TOPPS MINI 21 ROLLIE FINGERS Card 7 1 19323723 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS MINI 42 JOE COLEMAN Card 8 1 19323724 N6: MINIMUM SIZE REQUIREMENT 1975 TOPPS MINI 31 DAVE RADER Card 9 1 19323725 N1: EVIDENCE OF TRIMMING 1975 TOPPS MINI 51 BOB FORSCH Card 10 1 19323726 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS MINI 50 BROOKS ROBINSON Card 11 1 19323727 N6: MINIMUM SIZE REQUIREMENT 1975 TOPPS MINI 53 DAVE GIUSTI Card 12 1 19323728 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS MINI 61 DAVE WINFIELD Card 13 1 19323729 MINT 9 OC 1975 TOPPS MINI 80 CARLTON FISK Card 14 1 19323730 NEAR MINT 7 1975 TOPPS MINI 70 MIKE SCHMIDT Card 15 1 19323731 MINT 9 1975 TOPPS MINI 87 GEORGE FOSTER Card 16 1 19323732 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS MINI 98 RICH FOLKERS Card 17 1 19323733 MINT 9 OC 1975 TOPPS MINI 100 WILLIE STARGELL Card 18 1 19323734 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS MINI 116 LERRIN LaGROW Card 19 1 19323735 NEAR MINT 7 1975 TOPPS MINI 140 STEVE GARVEY Card 20 1 19323736 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS MINI 122 AL HRABOSKY Card 21 1 19323737 MINT 9 1975 TOPPS MINI 161 STAN BAHNSEN Card 22 1 19323738 N6: MINIMUM SIZE REQUIREMENT 1975 TOPPS MINI 150 BOB GIBSON Card 23 1 19323739 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS MINI 168 BILL GREIF Card 24 1 19323740 NEAR MINT 7 1975 TOPPS MINI 170 BERT CAMPANERIS Card 25 1 19323741 N6: MINIMUM SIZE REQUIREMENT 1975 TOPPS MINI 173 STEVE ROGERS Card 26 1 19323742 NEAR MINT-MINT+ 8.5 1975 TOPPS MINI 169 COOKIE ROJAS Card 27 1 19323743 N6: MINIMUM SIZE REQUIREMENT 1975 TOPPS MINI 180 JOE MORGAN Card 28 1 19323744 N6: MINIMUM SIZE REQUIREMENT 1975 TOPPS MINI 178 CESAR TOVAR Card 29 1 19323745 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS MINI 185 STEVE CARLTON Card 30 1 19323746 NEAR MINT-MINT+ 8.5 1975 TOPPS MINI 194 1956-MVP'S M.MANTLE/D.NEWCOMBE Card 31 1 19323747 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS MINI 205 1967-MVP'S C.YASTRZEMSKI/O.CEPEDA Card 32 1 19323748 EXCELLENT 5 1975 TOPPS MINI 223 ROBIN YOUNT Card 33 1 19323749 NEAR MINT 7 1975 TOPPS MINI 226 BILL CAMPBELL Card 34 1 19323750 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS MINI 227 BOB WATSON Card 35 1 19323751 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS MINI 228 GEORGE BRETT Card 36 1 19323752 MINT 9 1975 TOPPS MINI 242 JAY JOHNSTONE Card 37 1 19323753 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS MINI 260 JOHNNY BENCH Card 38 1 19323754 N6: MINIMUM SIZE REQUIREMENT 1975 TOPPS MINI 253 JESUS ALOU Card 39 1 19323755 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS MINI 259 LEN RANDLE Card 40 1 19323756 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS MINI 280 CARL YASTRZEMSKI Card 41 1 19323757 NEAR MINT 7 1975 TOPPS MINI 300 REGGIE JACKSON Card 42 1 19323758 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS MINI 294 GEOFF ZAHN Card 43 1 19323759 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS MINI 317 JOE LAHOUD Card 44 1 19323760 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS MINI 320 PETE ROSE Card 45 1 19323761 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS MINI 326 WAYNE TWITCHELL Card 46 1 19323762 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS MINI 335 JIM PALMER Card 47 1 19323763 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS MINI 370 TOM SEAVER Card 48 1 19323764 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS MINI 353 LUIS MELENDEZ Card 49 1 19323765 MINT 9 1975 TOPPS MINI 426 GEORGE MEDICH Card 50 1 19323766 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS MINI 402 BOB TOLAN Card 51 1 19323767 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS MINI 460 N.L. CHAMPIONSHIPS Card 52 1 19323768 MINT 9 1975 TOPPS MINI 450 WILLIE McCOVEY Card 53 1 19323769 NEAR MINT 7 1975 TOPPS MINI 461 WORLD SERIES GAME 1 Card 54 1 19323770 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS MINI 466 A's DO IT AGAIN! Card 55 1 19323771 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS MINI 470 JEFF BURROUGHS Card 56 1 19323772 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS MINI 475 DARRELL EVANS Card 57 1 19323773 MINT 9 1975 TOPPS MINI 504 BUDDY BRADFORD Card 58 1 19323774 N6: MINIMUM SIZE REQUIREMENT 1975 TOPPS MINI 484 GLENN BECKERT Card 59 1 19323775 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS MINI 510 VIDA BLUE Card 60 1 19323776 NEAR MINT 7 1975 TOPPS MINI 513 DICK POLE Card 61 1 19323777 GEM MINT 10 1975 TOPPS MINI 522 GARY SUTHERLAND Card 62 1 19323778 N6: MINIMUM SIZE REQUIREMENT 1975 TOPPS MINI 514 JOSE CRUZ Card 63 1 19323779 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1975 TOPPS MINI 534 ALEX JOHNSON Card 64 1 19323780 NEAR MINT 7 1975 TOPPS MINI 530 GAYLORD PERRY Card 65 1 19323781 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS MINI 540 LOU BROCK Card 66 1 19323782 NEAR MINT-MINT+ 8.5 1975 TOPPS MINI 537 TOMMY HARPER Card 67 1 19323783 MINT 9 1975 TOPPS MINI 543 LARRY BIITTNER Card 68 1 19323784 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS MINI 545 BILLY WILLIAMS Card 69 1 19323785 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS MINI 560 TONY PEREZ Card 70 1 19323786 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS MINI 554 RICH GOSSAGE Card 71 1 19323787 MINT 9 1975 TOPPS MINI 578 DAVE TOMLIN Card 72 1 19323788 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 PD 1975 TOPPS MINI 564 TOMMY DAVIS Card 73 1 19323789 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS MINI 580 FRANK ROBINSON Card 74 1 19323790 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS MINI 587 CHRIS WARD Card 75 1 19323791 N6: MINIMUM SIZE REQUIREMENT 1975 TOPPS MINI 596 OLLIE BROWN Card 76 1 19323792 GEM MINT 10 1975 TOPPS MINI 594 JIM FULLER Card 77 1 19323793 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS MINI 612 TERRY HUGHES Card 78 1 19323794 MINT 9 PD 1975 TOPPS MINI 600 ROD CAREW Card 79 1 19323795 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS MINI 620 ROOKIE CATCHERS- OUTFIELDERS Card 80 1 19323796 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS MINI 616 ROOKIE OUTFIELDERS Card 81 1 19323797 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS MINI 632 MORRIS NETTLES Card 82 1 19323798 MINT 9 OC 1975 TOPPS MINI 640 HARMON KILLEBREW Card 83 1 19323799 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 OC 1975 TOPPS MINI 659 BOB APODACA Card 84 1 19323800 NEAR MINT 7 1975 TOPPS MINI 647 CLAUDELL WASHINGTON Card 85 1 19323801 NEAR MINT 7 1975 TOPPS MINI 660 HANK AARON Card 86 1 19323802 N6: MINIMUM SIZE REQUIREMENT 1975 TOPPS MINI 143 CLIFF JOHNSON Card 87 1 19323803 NEAR MINT 7 1975 TOPPS MINI 335 JIM PALMER Card 88 1 19323804 MINT 9 1975 TOPPS MINI 344 BEN OGLIVIE Card 89 1 19323805 N6: MINIMUM SIZE REQUIREMENT 1975 TOPPS MINI 173 STEVE ROGERS Card 90 1 19323806 N6: MINIMUM SIZE REQUIREMENT 1975 TOPPS MINI 79 GARY MATTHEWS Card 91 1 19323807 EXCELLENT 5 1975 TOPPS MINI 143 CLIFF JOHNSON Card 92 1 19323808 N6: MINIMUM SIZE REQUIREMENT 1975 TOPPS MINI 647 CLAUDELL WASHINGTON Card 93 1 19323809 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1975 TOPPS MINI 647 CLAUDELL WASHINGTON Card 94 1 19323810 MINT 9 PD 1975 TOPPS MINI 647 CLAUDELL WASHINGTON Card 95 1 19323811 EXCELLENT 5 1975 TOPPS MINI 253 JESUS ALOU Card 96 1 19323812 NEAR MINT 7 1975 TOPPS MINI 583 ANDY ETCHEBARREN Card 97 1 19323813 NEAR MINT 7 1975 TOPPS MINI 6 '74 HIGHLIGHTS MIKE MARSHALL Card 98 1 19323814 N6: MINIMUM SIZE REQUIREMENT 1975 TOPPS MINI 139 HORACIO PINA Card 99 1 19323815 N6: MINIMUM SIZE REQUIREMENT 1975 TOPPS MINI 55 BOBBY BONDS Card 100 1 19323816 MINT 9 PD 1975 TOPPS MINI 322 ED GOODSON Card 101 1 19323817 MINT 9 PD 1975 TOPPS MINI 31 DAVE RADER Card 102 1 19323818 N6: MINIMUM SIZE REQUIREMENT 1975 TOPPS MINI 70 MIKE SCHMIDT Card 103 1 19323819 N6: MINIMUM SIZE REQUIREMENT 1975 TOPPS MINI 70 MIKE SCHMIDT Card 104 1 19323820 N6: MINIMUM SIZE REQUIREMENT 1975 TOPPS MINI 70 MIKE SCHMIDT Card 105 1 19323821 N6: MINIMUM SIZE REQUIREMENT 1975 TOPPS MINI 127 GLENN BORGMANN Card 106 1 19323822 N6: MINIMUM SIZE REQUIREMENT 1975 TOPPS MINI 162 WILLIE MONTANEZ Card 107 1 19323823 N6: MINIMUM SIZE REQUIREMENT 1975 TOPPS MINI 178 CESAR TOVAR Card 108 1 19323824 N6: MINIMUM SIZE REQUIREMENT 1975 TOPPS MINI 297 CRAIG KUSICK Card 109 1 19323825 N6: MINIMUM SIZE REQUIREMENT 1975 TOPPS MINI 29 DAVE PARKER Card 110 1 19323826 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS MINI 640 HARMON KILLEBREW Card 111 1 19323827 N6: MINIMUM SIZE REQUIREMENT 1975 TOPPS MINI 86 JOE LIS Card 112 1 19323828 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS MINI 169 COOKIE ROJAS Card Total Items: 112 Date Received: 12/30/2011 Date Shipped: N/A Order Status: OK
Still looks good overall, but I can understand your frustration with all the min sizes. In fact, it has me worried about a few that I submitted that are borderline. I see a few gems in there, however (e.g., Terry Hughes - $200 card in PSA 8), that make it good sub.
The Tigers team is tough. It sometimes comes a hair short in my experience along with others that were printed on the same sheet (e.g., Expos team, Jose Cardinal, Steve Rogers, and others - see page 7 of this thread for a photo of the sheet I'm talking about). I have a Tigers team in my latest submission that is just 1/10 mm under 80 mm. I hope it goes through okay.
Good luck on the sales of those if you're selling.
With my previous sub, and now this sub by BoSox as well -- it is apparent that the MinSizeRq hammer is being brought down hard. I see some in your list as well that are not green/yellow and red/yellow natural shorts.
I am actively buying MIKE SCHMIDT gem mint baseball cards. Also looking for any 19th century cabinets of Philadephia Nationals. Please PM with additional details.
I've measured over 350 minis in my collection. Cards that appear to adequatly fill the current holder.......measure 80.5 to 81mm. Cards from one particular ebay seller generally measure 80mm on the button from my sample.
Since I don't have an engineer's caliper graduated to the 10th of a millimeter, I rely on my eyes and two simpleton devices - a ruler and flexible tape. To me, the Dick Allen show appeared to be pretty damn close to 80mm.
I'm not calling for a fight at recess, but I would like to make the following point:
Any number of sources indicate that the '75 mini cards were measured in standard units, 3 1/8" x 2 1/4". The conversion for 3 1/8" is 79.375mm. Somewhere during the discussion, 80mm became the colloquial term and, for sake of clarity, I would prefer they all measured 80mm to avoid this problem. BUT, if there is going to be an argument about whether or not a card can simply be eligible for a grade, then I would like to stick to 3 1/8" or 79.375mm.
Regardless, this doesn't explain the two others that I have measuring 80.5 and almost 81.
<< <i>Since I don't have an engineer's caliper graduated to the 10th of a millimeter, I rely on my eyes and two simpleton devices - a ruler and flexible tape. To me, the Dick Allen show appeared to be pretty damn close to 80mm.
I'm not calling for a fight at recess, but I would like to make the following point:
Any number of sources indicate that the '75 mini cards were measured in standard units, 3 1/8" x 2 1/4". The conversion for 3 1/8" is 79.375mm. Somewhere during the discussion, 80mm became the colloquial term and, for sake of clarity, I would prefer they all measured 80mm to avoid this problem. BUT, if there is going to be an argument about whether or not a card can simply be eligible for a grade, then I would like to stick to 3 1/8" or 79.375mm.
Regardless, this doesn't explain the two others that I have measuring 80.5 and almost 81. >>
I think your grade was fixated on the reason that girl dumped him the night before.
---------------------- Working on the following: 1970 Baseball PSA, 1970-1976 Raw, World Series Subsets PSA, 1969 Expansion Teams PSA, Fleer World Series Sets, Texas Rangers Topps Run 1972-1989 ----------------------
Successful deals to date: thedudeabides,gameusedhoop,golfcollector,tigerdean,treetop,bkritz, CapeMOGuy,WeekendHacker,jeff8877,backbidder,Salinas,milbroco,bbuckner22,VitoCo1972,ddfamf,gemint,K,fatty macs,waltersobchak,dboneesq
Your Allen is not likely pack pulled. There is almost no variation in width in minis and cards that are noticably wide likely are sheet cut. Rather than call it that, PSA seems to use the n6 as a catch all, which is confusing, but also generous as you get a voucher for it. They could also call it miscut, but you dont see all that many of those used.
I'm not calling for a fight at recess, but I would like to make the following point:
And neither am I. I've measured many, many cards using nothing but a clear plastic ruler and a magnifying glass as means of protecting myself and adapting to how PSA treats the mini's. It's unfortunate, but it is what it is based on the alleged past practices of others trimming mini's. I think I've gotten really good at measuring cards using nothing but a ruler and a magnifying glass so I can be precise as I can be (you have to be - a trimmer can easily trim a few tenths of a mm), and it's worked very well for me. If I have to adapt further and use calipers, then so be it. Now although I haven't submitted as many mini's as most on here (somewhere in the neighborhood of 100-125 in the last two years), by measuring the cards the way I do and being completely objective about it and not submitting anything less than 79.75 mm if not a bit longer, I've yet to receive an N6 or EOT. Now with my latest sub of 25, I am worried as a few are perhaps a tenth of a mm below 80 mm, but we'll see. These are yellow/red combos, which I've seen before in rough cards to be very slightly (1/10 mm) under 80 mm.
These so called "standards" of 2-1/4" by 3-1/8" are all over the internet. But, where do they come from? Perhaps someone used the inches version of a ruler and rounded to these amounts. However, I've yet to see an official document from Topps with these numbers. So, I don't buy the inches measurement after having measured 100's and 100's of mini's using a metric ruler. I believe my eyes, and what I see is that the typical mini other than red/yellow or green/yellow ranges from a hair less than 80 mm up to 81 mm or greater. I've seen the higher end of 81 mm mostly in the pink/yellow and tan/blue. Most mini's are a few tenths of a mm above 80 mm or right at it. This is what I go by, it works for me, and I feel like I've done all I can to protect myself.
...completely objective about it and not submitting anything less than 79.75 mm if not a bit longer, I've yet to receive an N6...
There exists a slightly higher than normal level of frustration from myself and other regarding recent submissions. In the several months I've participated in this forum, it would appear the last two months have brought more gripes regarding "tough" grades than ever previous.
In the end, Indy, you and I will agree on most everything - and I wasn't trying to vent my frustrations on you.
Hey D, No problem, and I understand. I've felt the same frustrations lately with the Print Defect (PD) issue. And I definitely agree that the last few months have been tougher as far as getting the grades I expected.
Anyway, it's still a great set. And you've done an amazing job building yours in such a short period of time. I've enjoyed watching your progress with it.
Unless the left edge is an illusion from the scan, I'd say you did quite well to get a 10 on the Sutherland. And the Fuller is centered a bit high, imo, too. Some tough grades in there with a few nice ones mixed in. I'm noticing that they are giving minsize to color combos other than the usual red and green yellows. As Nick said, the grading does seem to cycle through different periods. Nice job on the better grades, Mike! Always a thrill to self-submit a PSA 10 from this set!
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
3 1/8 comes from beckett once upon a time and others followed. 3 1/8 happens to be a shorty. Normal minis are 3 3/16. It is that misperception that allowed so many non normal shorts to slip by. Interestingly, I have 4 green/yellow topps vault proofs, all are 3 1/8, straight from topps and are obviously short.
I own and sometimes use a micrometer. I also use a simple cheat: I crack out so many cards, that I always keep a half slab handy and use it as a measure to see if a card will fill it.
Yes, we were trying to get that case to do a case break on the board, but it's already gone too high with BP...Conlon family left a lot of money on the table by selling all those cases in bulk rather than parceling them out.
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
The Ryan just came in the mail today. But for a mild diamond cut, it would have been a 9 IMO, which I wouldn't have bought anyway, as my wife would never have let me hear the end of it. This one has perfect corners, clear register, and deep coloration. I'm very pleased with this card the way it is. Thank you Calinick/Stangrider!
Those cards with the slight diamond cuts end up hurting my eyes. Not because they are so visually unappealing or anything like that but because it's hard for me to "see it". To my eyes, it almost seems like an optical illusion resulting from the different colors on the top and bottom of the cards.
Probably nothing new: tough on shorts (although I am going to measure most, all of the non green/yellows are clearly longer than the g/y's) and tough on any pd (bummer on the Tommy D and Carew, the 9 pd Claudell wasn't too surprising). Some head-scratchers on 7's too - I'll have to look closer.
I posted on the b/s/t board and just thought I'd mention here but if anyone is selling some extras from recent opened product I could use some. Feel free to drop a pm. Thanks!
Here is my post:
I got a raw set I'm looking to improve a bit.
I'm interested in some decent nm to nm/mt cards or close to it if possible depending on the card (I know some of these are expensive in nm/mt and want to keep costs in check).
Man, was just looking at this bad boy for a while and felt compelled to take a new scan and share it again. To me this card is a thing of beauty. Especially when compared to the other 10s. He was such an awesome player. Second scan is better rez.
<< <i>Man, was just looking at this bad boy for a while and felt compelled to take a new scan and share it again. To me this card is a thing of beauty. Especially when compared to the other 10s. He was such an awesome player.
>>
Big Fan of: HOF Post War RC, Graded RCs WTB: PSA 1 - PSA 3 Centered, High Eye Appeal 1950's Mantle
Welcome aboard, Hallco...be prepared for an emotional roller coaster.
Just popped my latest PSA submission...again, I'm mixed. Got some tough 8's to fill holes in my set, but one more time got my a$$ kicked with minimum size requirements - 35% of my sub. Like last time, several of these were not green/yellow and red/yellow combos.
I'm feeling a bit more bent this time because this comes on the heels of the December order which was littered with N6's, so I was careful to ensure each was a legitimate full size (with the exception of three that were just so close I had to try). Then the end result was 39 of 113 were rejected.
We may never see certain cards in any holder, let alone a 9 holder, again.
I was looking through some VCP data and there are just SO many commons that are not notorious by name, yet have not been offered for sale in PSA 9 since 07, 08, 09. That is a long time.
Comments
Thanks much.
Jim
ebay id Duffs_Dugout
My Ebay Auctions
I'm really happy with my 8; I saw it while sitting on the train ride home from work and couldn't hit the BIN quickly enough. I have recently graded 9's of other mini's in my collection that don't look as nice as that Carew 8.
I also purchased the Rose mini #320 and the Ryan mini #500 from Calinick. They look like they came from the same print run/case as the Carews, especially the Ryan (judging from the back scan, which shows a similar tilt and similar centering). The Ryan has a bit of a diamond cut to it (a bit more prominent than the Carew's diamond cut), but I swear, it's as clean and clear as any Ryan I've ever seen. I took a look at past sales and images of the Ryan's in PSA 8 and PSA 9 on VCP, and this Ryan looks as good as many 9's, which incidentally also have a similar diamond cut. As soon as I have the new cards in hand, I'll post pics of them.
Order #20565641 / Submission #722527
Line # Item # Cert # Grade Description Type
1 1 19323717 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS MINI 4 '74 HIGHLIGHTS AL KALINE Card
2 1 19323718 MINT 9 1975 TOPPS MINI 9 FRANK TEPEDINO Card
3 1 19323719 N1: EVIDENCE OF TRIMMING 1975 TOPPS MINI 20 THURMAN MUNSON Card
4 1 19323720 N6: MINIMUM SIZE REQUIREMENT 1975 TOPPS MINI 18 TIGERS TEAM RALPH HOUK, MGR. Card
5 1 19323721 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS MINI 29 DAVE PARKER Card
6 1 19323722 MINT 9 1975 TOPPS MINI 21 ROLLIE FINGERS Card
7 1 19323723 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS MINI 42 JOE COLEMAN Card
8 1 19323724 N6: MINIMUM SIZE REQUIREMENT 1975 TOPPS MINI 31 DAVE RADER Card
9 1 19323725 N1: EVIDENCE OF TRIMMING 1975 TOPPS MINI 51 BOB FORSCH Card
10 1 19323726 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS MINI 50 BROOKS ROBINSON Card
11 1 19323727 N6: MINIMUM SIZE REQUIREMENT 1975 TOPPS MINI 53 DAVE GIUSTI Card
12 1 19323728 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS MINI 61 DAVE WINFIELD Card
13 1 19323729 MINT 9 OC 1975 TOPPS MINI 80 CARLTON FISK Card
14 1 19323730 NEAR MINT 7 1975 TOPPS MINI 70 MIKE SCHMIDT Card
15 1 19323731 MINT 9 1975 TOPPS MINI 87 GEORGE FOSTER Card
16 1 19323732 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS MINI 98 RICH FOLKERS Card
17 1 19323733 MINT 9 OC 1975 TOPPS MINI 100 WILLIE STARGELL Card
18 1 19323734 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS MINI 116 LERRIN LaGROW Card
19 1 19323735 NEAR MINT 7 1975 TOPPS MINI 140 STEVE GARVEY Card
20 1 19323736 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS MINI 122 AL HRABOSKY Card
21 1 19323737 MINT 9 1975 TOPPS MINI 161 STAN BAHNSEN Card
22 1 19323738 N6: MINIMUM SIZE REQUIREMENT 1975 TOPPS MINI 150 BOB GIBSON Card
23 1 19323739 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS MINI 168 BILL GREIF Card
24 1 19323740 NEAR MINT 7 1975 TOPPS MINI 170 BERT CAMPANERIS Card
25 1 19323741 N6: MINIMUM SIZE REQUIREMENT 1975 TOPPS MINI 173 STEVE ROGERS Card
26 1 19323742 NEAR MINT-MINT+ 8.5 1975 TOPPS MINI 169 COOKIE ROJAS Card
27 1 19323743 N6: MINIMUM SIZE REQUIREMENT 1975 TOPPS MINI 180 JOE MORGAN Card
28 1 19323744 N6: MINIMUM SIZE REQUIREMENT 1975 TOPPS MINI 178 CESAR TOVAR Card
29 1 19323745 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS MINI 185 STEVE CARLTON Card
30 1 19323746 NEAR MINT-MINT+ 8.5 1975 TOPPS MINI 194 1956-MVP'S M.MANTLE/D.NEWCOMBE Card
31 1 19323747 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS MINI 205 1967-MVP'S C.YASTRZEMSKI/O.CEPEDA Card
32 1 19323748 EXCELLENT 5 1975 TOPPS MINI 223 ROBIN YOUNT Card
33 1 19323749 NEAR MINT 7 1975 TOPPS MINI 226 BILL CAMPBELL Card
34 1 19323750 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS MINI 227 BOB WATSON Card
35 1 19323751 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS MINI 228 GEORGE BRETT Card
36 1 19323752 MINT 9 1975 TOPPS MINI 242 JAY JOHNSTONE Card
37 1 19323753 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS MINI 260 JOHNNY BENCH Card
38 1 19323754 N6: MINIMUM SIZE REQUIREMENT 1975 TOPPS MINI 253 JESUS ALOU Card
39 1 19323755 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS MINI 259 LEN RANDLE Card
40 1 19323756 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS MINI 280 CARL YASTRZEMSKI Card
41 1 19323757 NEAR MINT 7 1975 TOPPS MINI 300 REGGIE JACKSON Card
42 1 19323758 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS MINI 294 GEOFF ZAHN Card
43 1 19323759 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS MINI 317 JOE LAHOUD Card
44 1 19323760 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS MINI 320 PETE ROSE Card
45 1 19323761 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS MINI 326 WAYNE TWITCHELL Card
46 1 19323762 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS MINI 335 JIM PALMER Card
47 1 19323763 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS MINI 370 TOM SEAVER Card
48 1 19323764 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS MINI 353 LUIS MELENDEZ Card
49 1 19323765 MINT 9 1975 TOPPS MINI 426 GEORGE MEDICH Card
50 1 19323766 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS MINI 402 BOB TOLAN Card
51 1 19323767 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS MINI 460 N.L. CHAMPIONSHIPS Card
52 1 19323768 MINT 9 1975 TOPPS MINI 450 WILLIE McCOVEY Card
53 1 19323769 NEAR MINT 7 1975 TOPPS MINI 461 WORLD SERIES GAME 1 Card
54 1 19323770 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS MINI 466 A's DO IT AGAIN! Card
55 1 19323771 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS MINI 470 JEFF BURROUGHS Card
56 1 19323772 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS MINI 475 DARRELL EVANS Card
57 1 19323773 MINT 9 1975 TOPPS MINI 504 BUDDY BRADFORD Card
58 1 19323774 N6: MINIMUM SIZE REQUIREMENT 1975 TOPPS MINI 484 GLENN BECKERT Card
59 1 19323775 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS MINI 510 VIDA BLUE Card
60 1 19323776 NEAR MINT 7 1975 TOPPS MINI 513 DICK POLE Card
61 1 19323777 GEM MINT 10 1975 TOPPS MINI 522 GARY SUTHERLAND Card
62 1 19323778 N6: MINIMUM SIZE REQUIREMENT 1975 TOPPS MINI 514 JOSE CRUZ Card
63 1 19323779 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1975 TOPPS MINI 534 ALEX JOHNSON Card
64 1 19323780 NEAR MINT 7 1975 TOPPS MINI 530 GAYLORD PERRY Card
65 1 19323781 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS MINI 540 LOU BROCK Card
66 1 19323782 NEAR MINT-MINT+ 8.5 1975 TOPPS MINI 537 TOMMY HARPER Card
67 1 19323783 MINT 9 1975 TOPPS MINI 543 LARRY BIITTNER Card
68 1 19323784 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS MINI 545 BILLY WILLIAMS Card
69 1 19323785 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS MINI 560 TONY PEREZ Card
70 1 19323786 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS MINI 554 RICH GOSSAGE Card
71 1 19323787 MINT 9 1975 TOPPS MINI 578 DAVE TOMLIN Card
72 1 19323788 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 PD 1975 TOPPS MINI 564 TOMMY DAVIS Card
73 1 19323789 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS MINI 580 FRANK ROBINSON Card
74 1 19323790 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS MINI 587 CHRIS WARD Card
75 1 19323791 N6: MINIMUM SIZE REQUIREMENT 1975 TOPPS MINI 596 OLLIE BROWN Card
76 1 19323792 GEM MINT 10 1975 TOPPS MINI 594 JIM FULLER Card
77 1 19323793 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS MINI 612 TERRY HUGHES Card
78 1 19323794 MINT 9 PD 1975 TOPPS MINI 600 ROD CAREW Card
79 1 19323795 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS MINI 620 ROOKIE CATCHERS- OUTFIELDERS Card
80 1 19323796 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS MINI 616 ROOKIE OUTFIELDERS Card
81 1 19323797 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS MINI 632 MORRIS NETTLES Card
82 1 19323798 MINT 9 OC 1975 TOPPS MINI 640 HARMON KILLEBREW Card
83 1 19323799 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 OC 1975 TOPPS MINI 659 BOB APODACA Card
84 1 19323800 NEAR MINT 7 1975 TOPPS MINI 647 CLAUDELL WASHINGTON Card
85 1 19323801 NEAR MINT 7 1975 TOPPS MINI 660 HANK AARON Card
86 1 19323802 N6: MINIMUM SIZE REQUIREMENT 1975 TOPPS MINI 143 CLIFF JOHNSON Card
87 1 19323803 NEAR MINT 7 1975 TOPPS MINI 335 JIM PALMER Card
88 1 19323804 MINT 9 1975 TOPPS MINI 344 BEN OGLIVIE Card
89 1 19323805 N6: MINIMUM SIZE REQUIREMENT 1975 TOPPS MINI 173 STEVE ROGERS Card
90 1 19323806 N6: MINIMUM SIZE REQUIREMENT 1975 TOPPS MINI 79 GARY MATTHEWS Card
91 1 19323807 EXCELLENT 5 1975 TOPPS MINI 143 CLIFF JOHNSON Card
92 1 19323808 N6: MINIMUM SIZE REQUIREMENT 1975 TOPPS MINI 647 CLAUDELL WASHINGTON Card
93 1 19323809 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1975 TOPPS MINI 647 CLAUDELL WASHINGTON Card
94 1 19323810 MINT 9 PD 1975 TOPPS MINI 647 CLAUDELL WASHINGTON Card
95 1 19323811 EXCELLENT 5 1975 TOPPS MINI 253 JESUS ALOU Card
96 1 19323812 NEAR MINT 7 1975 TOPPS MINI 583 ANDY ETCHEBARREN Card
97 1 19323813 NEAR MINT 7 1975 TOPPS MINI 6 '74 HIGHLIGHTS MIKE MARSHALL Card
98 1 19323814 N6: MINIMUM SIZE REQUIREMENT 1975 TOPPS MINI 139 HORACIO PINA Card
99 1 19323815 N6: MINIMUM SIZE REQUIREMENT 1975 TOPPS MINI 55 BOBBY BONDS Card
100 1 19323816 MINT 9 PD 1975 TOPPS MINI 322 ED GOODSON Card
101 1 19323817 MINT 9 PD 1975 TOPPS MINI 31 DAVE RADER Card
102 1 19323818 N6: MINIMUM SIZE REQUIREMENT 1975 TOPPS MINI 70 MIKE SCHMIDT Card
103 1 19323819 N6: MINIMUM SIZE REQUIREMENT 1975 TOPPS MINI 70 MIKE SCHMIDT Card
104 1 19323820 N6: MINIMUM SIZE REQUIREMENT 1975 TOPPS MINI 70 MIKE SCHMIDT Card
105 1 19323821 N6: MINIMUM SIZE REQUIREMENT 1975 TOPPS MINI 127 GLENN BORGMANN Card
106 1 19323822 N6: MINIMUM SIZE REQUIREMENT 1975 TOPPS MINI 162 WILLIE MONTANEZ Card
107 1 19323823 N6: MINIMUM SIZE REQUIREMENT 1975 TOPPS MINI 178 CESAR TOVAR Card
108 1 19323824 N6: MINIMUM SIZE REQUIREMENT 1975 TOPPS MINI 297 CRAIG KUSICK Card
109 1 19323825 N6: MINIMUM SIZE REQUIREMENT 1975 TOPPS MINI 29 DAVE PARKER Card
110 1 19323826 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS MINI 640 HARMON KILLEBREW Card
111 1 19323827 N6: MINIMUM SIZE REQUIREMENT 1975 TOPPS MINI 86 JOE LIS Card
112 1 19323828 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS MINI 169 COOKIE ROJAS Card
Total Items: 112
Date Received: 12/30/2011
Date Shipped: N/A
Order Status: OK
Bosox1976
Any chance you can sell me that #42 Coleman in PSA 8? One of a handful I need to complete a set.
Best,
Matt
PM sent-- actually a few more I really badly need in that sub. Gimme a holler if you're selling. THANKS.
Does anyone out there have a #601 Beniquez in ANY GRADE? Thanks.
Best,
Matt
Still looks good overall, but I can understand your frustration with all the min sizes. In fact, it has me worried about a few that I submitted that are borderline. I see a few gems in there, however (e.g., Terry Hughes - $200 card in PSA 8), that make it good sub.
The Tigers team is tough. It sometimes comes a hair short in my experience along with others that were printed on the same sheet (e.g., Expos team, Jose Cardinal, Steve Rogers, and others - see page 7 of this thread for a photo of the sheet I'm talking about). I have a Tigers team in my latest submission that is just 1/10 mm under 80 mm. I hope it goes through okay.
Good luck on the sales of those if you're selling.
Tough on the N6's
im still looking for an 8.5/9 Munson to no avail
WTB: PSA 1 - PSA 3 Centered, High Eye Appeal 1950's Mantle
If I'm reading your ruler correctly, the Allen measures vertically at about 79.5 mm.
I'm not calling for a fight at recess, but I would like to make the following point:
Any number of sources indicate that the '75 mini cards were measured in standard units, 3 1/8" x 2 1/4". The conversion for 3 1/8" is 79.375mm. Somewhere during the discussion, 80mm became the colloquial term and, for sake of clarity, I would prefer they all measured 80mm to avoid this problem. BUT, if there is going to be an argument about whether or not a card can simply be eligible for a grade, then I would like to stick to 3 1/8" or 79.375mm.
Regardless, this doesn't explain the two others that I have measuring 80.5 and almost 81.
<< <i>Since I don't have an engineer's caliper graduated to the 10th of a millimeter, I rely on my eyes and two simpleton devices - a ruler and flexible tape. To me, the Dick Allen show appeared to be pretty damn close to 80mm.
I'm not calling for a fight at recess, but I would like to make the following point:
Any number of sources indicate that the '75 mini cards were measured in standard units, 3 1/8" x 2 1/4". The conversion for 3 1/8" is 79.375mm. Somewhere during the discussion, 80mm became the colloquial term and, for sake of clarity, I would prefer they all measured 80mm to avoid this problem. BUT, if there is going to be an argument about whether or not a card can simply be eligible for a grade, then I would like to stick to 3 1/8" or 79.375mm.
Regardless, this doesn't explain the two others that I have measuring 80.5 and almost 81. >>
I think your grade was fixated on the reason that girl dumped him the night before.
Working on the following: 1970 Baseball PSA, 1970-1976 Raw, World Series Subsets PSA, 1969 Expansion Teams PSA, Fleer World Series Sets, Texas Rangers Topps Run 1972-1989
----------------------
Successful deals to date: thedudeabides,gameusedhoop,golfcollector,tigerdean,treetop,bkritz, CapeMOGuy,WeekendHacker,jeff8877,backbidder,Salinas,milbroco,bbuckner22,VitoCo1972,ddfamf,gemint,K,fatty macs,waltersobchak,dboneesq
I am hoping that they get to Chicago by Saturday; I'll post some scans when they do arrive.
Most will be available.
For now, here were the two 10's, Sutherland and Fuller - which were nice cards, but not the ones that I would have guessed would grade out as 10's:
Bosox1976
Your Allen is not likely pack pulled. There is almost no variation in width in minis and cards that are noticably wide likely are sheet cut. Rather than call it that, PSA seems to use the n6 as a catch all, which is confusing, but also generous as you get a voucher for it. They could also call it miscut, but you dont see all that many of those used.
ebay id Duffs_Dugout
My Ebay Auctions
ebay id Duffs_Dugout
My Ebay Auctions
Bosox1976
And neither am I. I've measured many, many cards using nothing but a clear plastic ruler and a magnifying glass as means of protecting myself and adapting to how PSA treats the mini's. It's unfortunate, but it is what it is based on the alleged past practices of others trimming mini's. I think I've gotten really good at measuring cards using nothing but a ruler and a magnifying glass so I can be precise as I can be (you have to be - a trimmer can easily trim a few tenths of a mm), and it's worked very well for me. If I have to adapt further and use calipers, then so be it. Now although I haven't submitted as many mini's as most on here (somewhere in the neighborhood of 100-125 in the last two years), by measuring the cards the way I do and being completely objective about it and not submitting anything less than 79.75 mm if not a bit longer, I've yet to receive an N6 or EOT. Now with my latest sub of 25, I am worried as a few are perhaps a tenth of a mm below 80 mm, but we'll see. These are yellow/red combos, which I've seen before in rough cards to be very slightly (1/10 mm) under 80 mm.
These so called "standards" of 2-1/4" by 3-1/8" are all over the internet. But, where do they come from? Perhaps someone used the inches version of a ruler and rounded to these amounts. However, I've yet to see an official document from Topps with these numbers. So, I don't buy the inches measurement after having measured 100's and 100's of mini's using a metric ruler. I believe my eyes, and what I see is that the typical mini other than red/yellow or green/yellow ranges from a hair less than 80 mm up to 81 mm or greater. I've seen the higher end of 81 mm mostly in the pink/yellow and tan/blue. Most mini's are a few tenths of a mm above 80 mm or right at it. This is what I go by, it works for me, and I feel like I've done all I can to protect myself.
There exists a slightly higher than normal level of frustration from myself and other regarding recent submissions. In the several months I've participated in this forum, it would appear the last two months have brought more gripes regarding "tough" grades than ever previous.
In the end, Indy, you and I will agree on most everything - and I wasn't trying to vent my frustrations on you.
Dave
Anyway, it's still a great set. And you've done an amazing job building yours in such a short period of time. I've enjoyed watching your progress with it.
Cheers,
Nick
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
Interestingly, I have 4 green/yellow topps vault proofs, all are 3 1/8, straight from topps and are obviously short.
I own and sometimes use a micrometer. I also use a simple cheat: I crack out so many cards, that I always keep a half slab handy and use it as a measure to see if a card will fill it.
ebay id Duffs_Dugout
My Ebay Auctions
75 Mini Sealed Case MIle High Auction
Currently bid over $22k with premium...
I might like the two cases I sold back now...
ebay id Duffs_Dugout
My Ebay Auctions
<< <i>By the way... wow:
75 Mini Sealed Case MIle High Auction
Currently bid over $22k with premium...
I might like the two cases I sold back now... >>
Ouch! that is steep
There's an interesting thread about that case in the Sports Cards and Memorabilia forum.
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
WTB: PSA 1 - PSA 3 Centered, High Eye Appeal 1950's Mantle
Probably nothing new: tough on shorts (although I am going to measure most, all of the non green/yellows are clearly longer than the g/y's) and tough on any pd (bummer on the Tommy D and Carew, the 9 pd Claudell wasn't too surprising). Some head-scratchers on 7's too - I'll have to look closer.
Bosox1976
Bosox1976
Bosox1976
Here is my post:
I got a raw set I'm looking to improve a bit.
I'm interested in some decent nm to nm/mt cards or close to it if possible depending on the card (I know some of these are expensive in nm/mt and want to keep costs in check).
I am looking for #'s 1, 16, 20, 29, 33, 53, 64, 82, 86, 136, 137, 139, 140, 161, 178, 186, 250, 262, 268, 269, 277, 329, 331, 350, 355, 399, 414, 434, 440, 444, 450, 458, 471, 514, 550, 557, 558, 574, 590, 605,
612, 626, 647, 649, 650, 654, and 659.
Thanks for any help,
aconte
WTB: PSA 1 - PSA 3 Centered, High Eye Appeal 1950's Mantle
ebay id Duffs_Dugout
My Ebay Auctions
Thank you in advance.
<< <i>Man, was just looking at this bad boy for a while and felt compelled to take a new scan and share it again. To me this card is a thing of beauty. Especially when compared to the other 10s. He was such an awesome player.
WTB: PSA 1 - PSA 3 Centered, High Eye Appeal 1950's Mantle
Just popped my latest PSA submission...again, I'm mixed. Got some tough 8's to fill holes in my set, but one more time got my a$$ kicked with minimum size requirements - 35% of my sub. Like last time, several of these were not green/yellow and red/yellow combos.
I'm feeling a bit more bent this time because this comes on the heels of the December order which was littered with N6's, so I was careful to ensure each was a legitimate full size (with the exception of three that were just so close I had to try). Then the end result was 39 of 113 were rejected.
I was looking through some VCP data and there are just SO many commons that are not notorious by name, yet have not been offered for sale in PSA 9 since 07, 08, 09. That is a long time.
It is like looking into the sun... with similar gravitational effects
ebay id Duffs_Dugout
My Ebay Auctions