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JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,852 ✭✭✭✭✭
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Just watched this fluffy piece on the Yahoo landing page. Our beloved numismatic holdings did not make the list.

Discuss if you wish..........

1) Gemstones ( diamonds and pearls)

2) Heirlooms from mainland China

3) Handwritten Presidential documents

4) Classic Rock memorabilia ( Beattles, Zepplin etc)

5) Vintage Sports Collectibles


the only numismatic item in the top ten

9) Fugios imbedded in lucite
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  • pontiacinfpontiacinf Posts: 8,915 ✭✭


    << <i>Just watched this fluffy piece on the Yahoo landing page. Our beloved numismatic holdings did not make the list.

    Discuss if you wish..........

    1) Gemstones ( diamonds and pearls)

    2) Heirlooms from mainland China

    3) Handwritten Presidential documents

    4) Classic Rock memorabilia ( Beattles, Zepplin etc)

    5) Vintage Sports Collectibles


    the only numismatic item in the top ten

    9) Fugios imbedded in lucite >>



    is the #9 tyed in with the other thread?
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  • JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,852 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Ok, #9 was made up by me. The other 5 were as reported................They only gave a top 5. MJ
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  • blu62vetteblu62vette Posts: 11,943 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Poor MJ is bored overseas....
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  • CoinRaritiesOnlineCoinRaritiesOnline Posts: 3,681 ✭✭✭✭
    The trouble with those 5 "investment" areas is the buy-sell spread. Who cares if a $1000 item has held its value if the best offer you can get for it is $200 when you want to sell? Or -- you put it into a specialist auction and you net 50% of what it actually sells for, and get paid 6 months after you consign it.


    I personally am not an advocate of buying coins as an investment, but the coin market has all others beat by a mile for tight buy-sell spreads.
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  • BBNBBN Posts: 3,761 ✭✭✭
    sports memorabilia of any kind bought at retail has a bad return. No one knows how well it will do long term either. If you go to sell it to a dealer of some type you'll get half of what you paid. If you sell it on ebay as an auction you may get more than that. If you're not in a hurry to sell and just let it sit as a BIN sale on ebay you may be able to sell it and get your money back within time. Sports memorabilia is best bought as an item that you want because you want it, not simply for an investment. And if you can pick it as an auction even better.

    This may sound morbid, but the best time to sell an autograph is immediately following the death of that individual.

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  • crypto79crypto79 Posts: 8,623 ✭
    besides the very highest in quality ( some might say the same with coins), diamonds are not very liquid or profitable as there is a very small two way market.
  • SkyManSkyMan Posts: 9,493 ✭✭✭✭✭
    What, no U of M sports memorabilia???
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  • RedneckHBRedneckHB Posts: 19,661 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I would have put "children" at the top of the list.

    No wonder we're fubar.

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    Knowledge is the enemy of fear

  • phehpheh Posts: 1,588 ✭
    1) Gemstones ( diamonds and pearls)
    Value has been decimated over the past 10 years.

    2) Heirlooms from mainland China
    No clue, perhaps.

    3) Handwritten Presidential documents
    Dipped along with everything else in the recession

    4) Classic Rock memorabilia ( Beattles, Zepplin etc)
    Dipped along with everything else in the recession

    5) Vintage Sports Collectibles
    Dipped along with everything else in the recession


    The smartest alternative investments I made, at least over the past 10 years have been in: wine; marketable Chinese numismatic items; and Apple stock (which ten years ago certainly felt like a pretty alternative investment).
  • 291fifth291fifth Posts: 24,674 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Did you ever try to sell a diamond?

    All glory is fleeting.
  • JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,852 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>What, no U of M sports memorabilia??? >>



    My ex-wife owns the house and carpeting that once I layed on for five hours straight motiomless and in silence after the Chris Webber time out. The carpet was newly installed, it was mauve and it has a shroud like image of me permanetly impregnated in the plush stain mastered fibers.

    North Carolinian pilgrimages decend on the house MJ built on Long Island to see the shroud the first Monday of every April.

    MJ

    edited to add- Her ROI was pretty good.
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  • ElKevvoElKevvo Posts: 4,136 ✭✭✭✭✭
    1) Gemstones ( diamonds and pearls)
    Value has been decimated over the past 10 years.

    This one struck me as odd also...and cast a negative light on anything else in the list...diamond prices have gone south over the last decade or two and also as someone else mentioned the buy/sell spread is huge.

    K
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  • OPAOPA Posts: 17,141 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'm not a collector of any below, but I'm surprised that
    Vintage Automobiles &
    Classic Paintings from the Masters
    Fossilized Dinosaur remains
    Rare Meteorites ............................ did not make the listimage
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  • JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,852 ✭✭✭✭✭
    <The smartest alternative investments I made, at least over the past 10 years have been in: wine;>

    Yes. that worked well for me also. I was able to sell half of it over the years which paid in full for the deal (boutique wine ) and keep the rest I should be drinking well for abought thirty more years free of charge. I hope.' MJ
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  • mkman123mkman123 Posts: 6,849 ✭✭✭✭
    the things listed in the top 5 lose their value the most lol.

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  • joshieboijoshieboi Posts: 128
    << would have put "children" at the top of the list.

    No wonder we're fubar.
    >>

    Hahaha, they're definitely time-intensive projects.
  • DennisHDennisH Posts: 14,010 ✭✭✭✭✭
    After learning more about them I might agree with #2 and #3, but I wouldn't go anywhere near #1, #4 and #5.
    When in doubt, don't.
  • Tdec1000Tdec1000 Posts: 3,852 ✭✭✭
    Go Blue baby!!!
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  • LindeDadLindeDad Posts: 18,766 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I would think a beach house should be on the list.
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    image -Dan
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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Whoever made that list has no business making such a list. Gemstones are a P.Poor investment. I will not even dignify the rest with comments. Cheers, RickO
  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,814 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Whoever made that list has no business making such a list. Gemstones are a P.Poor investment. I will not even dignify the rest with comments. Cheers, RickO >>

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  • CoinspongeCoinsponge Posts: 3,927 ✭✭✭
    Yes, and to that I would add the 1972 Ford Pinto. Can't lose there.
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  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,814 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>2) Heirlooms from mainland China >>



    If these were a good investment, the Chinese would be mass producing them and they would be all over eBay.image

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  • LindeDadLindeDad Posts: 18,766 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>2) Heirlooms from mainland China >>



    If these were a good investment, the Chinese would be mass producing them and they would be all over eBay.image >>



    They are there called Trade Dollars.

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  • SonorandesertratSonorandesertrat Posts: 5,695 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Whoever made that list has no business making such a list. Gemstones are a P.Poor investment. I will not even dignify the rest with comments. Cheers, RickO >>

    image >>



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  • kiyotekiyote Posts: 5,588 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Did you ever try to sell a diamond? >>



    Big Diamond: "No! Of course not! A diamond is forever! To be treasured by the family and eventually buried with the corpse of the original owner! Don't pass diamonds down, buy new ones!"

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  • clouisejewelersclouisejewelers Posts: 331 ✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>What, no U of M sports memorabilia??? >>



    My ex-wife owns the house and carpeting that once I layed on for five hours straight motiomless and in silence after the Chris Webber time out. The carpet was newly installed, it was mauve and it has a shroud like image of me permanetly impregnated in the plush stain mastered fibers.

    North Carolinian pilgrimages decend on the house MJ built on Long Island to see the shroud the first Monday of every April.

    MJ

    edited to add- Her ROI was pretty good. >>



    Ahhhh, memories. My reaction was a long, agonizing yell similar to Cameron's from Ferris Bueller's day off when he sees the parking lot attendant had put many miles on his dad's 1961 Ferrari. What a night. Juwan Howard was in my English class that year, he was the only one taller than me. It was cool seeing him there on the one day a week he showed up for class.
  • OPAOPA Posts: 17,141 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I would think a beach house should be on the list.
    image >>



    Not with the Ocean levels rising...I would consider that a poor choice for long term investments.image
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  • ambro51ambro51 Posts: 13,945 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I wouldnt mind owning a few of Bobby Jones's golf clubs......
  • scotty1419scotty1419 Posts: 933 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Did you ever try to sell a diamond? >>



    Big Diamond: "No! Of course not! A diamond is forever! To be treasured by the family and eventually buried with the corpse of the original owner! Don't pass diamonds down, buy new ones!" >>



    Required reading for anyone who hasn't read The Atlantic's wonderful feature on the diamond industry and resale value: Have you Ever Tried to Sell a Diamond?
  • BearBear Posts: 18,953 ✭✭✭
    The best way to get money is the old fashioned way....

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  • dcarrdcarr Posts: 9,066 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Classic cars and classic guns have done well.

    Of course, as with any type of collectible, originality and condition are most important.
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  • RedTigerRedTiger Posts: 5,608 ✭
    That is a really stupid list. Anyone reading and then going off to buy as a newbie, paying retail prices at a dealer, is going to lose big from mark ups and spreads. With all five on the list, dealers make the bulk of the money, collectors/investors are doing well to break even after five or ten or twenty years. Diamonds? <cough> The average diamond engagement ring is marked up 200%+ at retail stores, for an immediate 70% loss. Good luck ever seeing that money again. Same for sports memorabilia if a person pays full boat retail. It is not all that different for many average collector coins, though the hit might be more like 50% buying at full retail, selling at average wholesale, for many raw coins.

    As for kids, I've heard more than a few sad stories from parents and grandparents. Sadly, sometimes kids or grandkids or step-kids can become a lost cause where a person decides "no mas." No more money into the rat hole, no more enabling them to live lazy self-indulgent and/or sometimes even self-destructive lives.

    As an aside for the rock memorabilia, some group recently thought that was a no lose theme and built a $400 million amusement park on Led Zeppelin and rock and roll themes. They sold it 2 years later for $25 million. The buyers at that bargain price declared bankruptcy after year three. Ouch.
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  • pennyanniepennyannie Posts: 3,929 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Did you ever try to sell a diamond? >>



    No, but i bought a used one for 1000 that appraised at 14k a few years back. I am actually in the money now with it. Gold is up...... It would only be worth 14k if it gets stolen.image Insurance company would pay 14k and pawn shops would pay 500. A nice 13.5k spread.
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  • GrumpyEdGrumpyEd Posts: 4,749 ✭✭✭
    What a silly list, they left off:

    6) Beanie Babies

    7) Pokemon cards
    Ed
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  • GATGAT Posts: 3,146 ✭
    DeBeer's Consolidated controls the diamond market with an iron fist. If all the above ground diamonds came on the market the price would crash. That was the reason behind their big ad campaign a few years back that a diamond was forever.
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  • ecichlidecichlid Posts: 1,212 ✭✭✭
    What a joke.
    There is no "AT" or "NT". We only have "market acceptable" or "not market acceptable.
  • CoinJunkieCoinJunkie Posts: 8,772 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I personally am not an advocate of buying coins as an investment, but the coin market has all others beat by a mile for tight buy-sell spreads. >>



    I beg to differ. The stock market beats rare coins by a mile in that regard!

    Edit: OK, maybe "alt" means alternatives to investing in stocks. If so, nevermind... image
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