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  • itzagoneritzagoner Posts: 8,753 ✭✭


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    << <i>Mark i don't think Patrick wants to or needs to lie, but he is going about proving just how easy it is to do.

    does this mean anyone can appropriate a photo of an object and simply call it theirs? heck i own the Brooklyn Bridge AND Trump Towers, hang on while i get you a couple pictures.

    yessiree it is EASY to lie and everyone's doing it, so let's just excuse it as the norm. >>



    C'mon now...it is not hard to show you own a card. Pick out any card from my Gonzo 1/1 thread and I will show you photo of me holding it within two minutes. >>



    facepalm.
  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
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    Good for you.
  • MULLINS5MULLINS5 Posts: 4,517 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>I called eBay about this just now:

    "Hi, I am not sure if there is anything that can be done now that the listing has ended, but there was an item sold on eBay tonight that was fraudulent."

    "Oh, really?"

    "Yes. The seller stole the image from a website, superimposed their user ID on the image, and sold it"

    "Can I get the listing ID?"

    "Sure, are you ready?"

    "Yes."

    "OK, it's 140475040945"

    And he said very sarcastically, "oh, really? and how do you know this is a stolen image?"

    "Because it's my card."

    "It's your card?"

    "Yes. The image was stolen from Legacy Auction House's website. I was the winner of this exact item and it is right here in front of me."

    "...can I get that item number again from you, I had it on my desk and it fell off."

    "Sure, it's 140475040945"

    "I'm going to get this to the Trust and Safety Department right now Mr. Mullins"

    "Thank you, if there is anything else you need from me, like scans of the item, or anything else please have eBay contact me." >>



    Really, I don't even believe this conversation took place! image >>




    It really did take place and that is really what the guy said!
  • corvette1340corvette1340 Posts: 3,384 ✭✭✭
    does anyone want to buy my PSA 8 '51 Mantle? You can view a picture in the auction from lostfaith that just ended.
  • itzagoneritzagoner Posts: 8,753 ✭✭
    HI TOMMY!
  • MULLINS5MULLINS5 Posts: 4,517 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Mark i don't think Patrick wants to or needs to lie, but he is going about proving just how easy it is to do.

    does this mean anyone can appropriate a photo of an object and simply call it theirs? heck i own the Brooklyn Bridge AND Trump Towers, hang on while i get you a couple pictures.

    yessiree it is EASY to lie and everyone's doing it, so let's just excuse it as the norm. >>




    image
  • corvette1340corvette1340 Posts: 3,384 ✭✭✭


    << <i>HI TOMMY! >>



    what up what up!!
  • corvette1340corvette1340 Posts: 3,384 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Mark i don't think Patrick wants to or needs to lie, but he is going about proving just how easy it is to do.

    does this mean anyone can appropriate a photo of an object and simply call it theirs? heck i own the Brooklyn Bridge AND Trump Towers, hang on while i get you a couple pictures.

    yessiree it is EASY to lie and everyone's doing it, so let's just excuse it as the norm. >>




    image >>




    Is that the front cover for the movie "End of Days"?
  • BarfvaderBarfvader Posts: 2,859 ✭✭✭✭
    Work in progress.



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  • thunderdanthunderdan Posts: 3,036 ✭✭✭
    I originally posted this with the intention of alertying would be bidders in this forum of a suspicious card. Furthermore, I thought the description was so outrageous as to be funny.

    I hope at least nobody from CU bought the card. I guess this was Gecko's coming back out party.

    You're welcome.
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  • MULLINS5MULLINS5 Posts: 4,517 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Work in progress.



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    It has been a loooong time since I've had a good laugh! Thanks Barf image
  • MULLINS5MULLINS5 Posts: 4,517 ✭✭✭
    ...and there is pepsi max all over my new shirt.
  • I should find a better photo for you Mullins.

    I am actually a little proud of my role in civilian space flight. It took the XPrize, and us competitors, for NASA to do what it is doing now. We had to prove there was interest and it was doable, which we did. Still kinda sucks to get beat by one of the richest men in the world....but it was cool, and I learned a valuable lesson...space rockets do not fit through doorways.
    Collecting PSA graded Steve Young, Marcus Allen, Bret Saberhagen and 1980s Topps Cards.
    Raw: Tony Gonzalez (low #'d cards, and especially 1/1's) and Steve Young.
  • BarfvaderBarfvader Posts: 2,859 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>It has been a loooong time since I've had a good laugh! Thanks Barf image >>



    Not a problem. image

  • That`s a great pic Mark. image

    I wonder what you`d get if you ebay auctioned a small piece of the X-Plane imbedded in a custom card made by heritage.
  • corvette1340corvette1340 Posts: 3,384 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I should find a better photo for you Mullins.

    I am actually a little proud of my role in civilian space flight. It took the XPrize, and us competitors, for NASA to do what it is doing now. We had to prove there was interest and it was doable, which we did. Still kinda sucks to get beat by one of the richest men in the world....but it was cool, and I learned a valuable lesson...space rockets do not fit through doorways. >>



    so, is your '51 Bowman Mantle PSA 8 for sale too?


  • << <i>

    << <i>I should find a better photo for you Mullins.

    I am actually a little proud of my role in civilian space flight. It took the XPrize, and us competitors, for NASA to do what it is doing now. We had to prove there was interest and it was doable, which we did. Still kinda sucks to get beat by one of the richest men in the world....but it was cool, and I learned a valuable lesson...space rockets do not fit through doorways. >>



    so, is your '51 Bowman Mantle PSA 8 for sale too? >>



    No, I would prefer a 1952 Topps.
    Collecting PSA graded Steve Young, Marcus Allen, Bret Saberhagen and 1980s Topps Cards.
    Raw: Tony Gonzalez (low #'d cards, and especially 1/1's) and Steve Young.
  • I had to send "her" a question after reading her auction (great description/story) and seeing her perfect 100% (1 transaction) feedback, I just got the reply...
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    MY QUESTION:
    Dear lostfaith58,
    Hi there,
    I would be very interested in the 1952 wax pack. As you can see from my feedback, I only collect unopened packs.
    Let me know if you still hve it and you're interested in selling it.

    Thank you!
    -muggyman
    --------------------
    RESPONSE:
    Dear muggyman,
    I am do you have an offer
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    Do you think it has a Mantle RC showing on top?

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  • MULLINS5MULLINS5 Posts: 4,517 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I should find a better photo for you Mullins.

    I am actually a little proud of my role in civilian space flight. It took the XPrize, and us competitors, for NASA to do what it is doing now. We had to prove there was interest and it was doable, which we did. Still kinda sucks to get beat by one of the richest men in the world....but it was cool, and I learned a valuable lesson...space rockets do not fit through doorways. >>



    Did you or the rocket, or both, fly in space?
  • corvette1340corvette1340 Posts: 3,384 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I had to send "her" a question after reading her auction (great description/story) and seeing her perfect 100% (1 transaction) feedback, I just got the reply...
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    MY QUESTION:
    Dear lostfaith58,
    Hi there,
    I would be very interested in the 1952 wax pack. As you can see from my feedback, I only collect unopened packs.
    Let me know if you still hve it and you're interested in selling it.

    Thank you!
    -muggyman
    --------------------
    RESPONSE:
    Dear muggyman,
    I am do you have an offer
    --------------------

    Do you think it has a Mantle RC showing on top?



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    offer her $1000 and see what she says, lol. I'm guessing that it will be something to the effect "that is very low according to what others have told me, but I do need the money so I'll take it"
  • It is hard to take any question serious that starts "Dear muggyman..."

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    Collecting PSA graded Steve Young, Marcus Allen, Bret Saberhagen and 1980s Topps Cards.
    Raw: Tony Gonzalez (low #'d cards, and especially 1/1's) and Steve Young.
  • itzagoneritzagoner Posts: 8,753 ✭✭


    << <i>I originally posted this with the intention of alertying would be bidders in this forum of a suspicious card. >>



    sure Dan, we believe you. thanks for the low-hanging fruit. image
  • Just noticed we joined the same time, itzagoner.

    But I win...more post....image
    Collecting PSA graded Steve Young, Marcus Allen, Bret Saberhagen and 1980s Topps Cards.
    Raw: Tony Gonzalez (low #'d cards, and especially 1/1's) and Steve Young.
  • itzagoneritzagoner Posts: 8,753 ✭✭
    +1 i'm getting closer image
  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    I would think the 'seller' of this card would be thrilled that someone interfered with the auction.

    After all her card that she just paid 20k+ for sold for less that 7k.

    I'd take that interference all day long.

    Just sayin................

    Good for you.
  • corvette1340corvette1340 Posts: 3,384 ✭✭✭
    or the card she paid "nothing" for and doesn't have just sold for 7K.

    just sayin'
  • Or the card she just got from her late husband.....who she may have been bitterly divorced from for the past 10 years, and now left her with these assets that she hasnt had to pay a single dime for.......just sold for $7K.

    Just sayin.








    We can "what if" this all day long fellas. image
  • MULLINS5MULLINS5 Posts: 4,517 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Or the card she just got from her late husband.....who she may have been bitterly divorced from for the past 10 years, and now left her with these assets that she hasnt had to pay a single dime for.......just sold for $7K.

    Just sayin.








    We can "what if" this all day long fellas. image >>



    We can, and we also prefer that you leave.
  • mexpo75mexpo75 Posts: 1,938 ✭✭✭✭
    Can someone fill me in on the staus of this auction. I know it ended for around $7k. Did ebay put a hold on this? Also, if buyer paid Paypal with CC, would he have to pay CC bill if card never showed up? If not what is downside on bidding on ANY auction and paying with CC?
    PackManInNC


  • << <i>Can someone fill me in on the staus of this auction. I know it ended for around $7k. Did ebay put a hold on this? Also, if buyer paid Paypal with CC, would he have to pay CC bill if card never showed up? If not what is downside on bidding on ANY auction and paying with CC? >>



    The person could empty out pay pal instantly. In that case, your credit card will still likely refund you and make pay pal eat it. Assuming you dont have a history of like charges, like one every month or two.

    Not likely much risk.

    I guess your downside is credit card charges. I know a lot of people that throw a hundred a month away with CC's.
    Collecting PSA graded Steve Young, Marcus Allen, Bret Saberhagen and 1980s Topps Cards.
    Raw: Tony Gonzalez (low #'d cards, and especially 1/1's) and Steve Young.
  • MULLINS5MULLINS5 Posts: 4,517 ✭✭✭
    Well, I guess the buyer will be covered no matter what. The only winner here is the seller (who will grab the cash and run) and the only loser is eBay (who will have to pay the buyer back).

    Scam away.
  • bkingbking Posts: 3,095 ✭✭


    << <i>Well, I guess the buyer will be covered no matter what. The only winner here is the seller (who will grab the cash and run) and the only loser is eBay (who will have to pay the buyer back).

    Scam away. >>



    Nah, I'm pretty sure the loss prevention department of the CC company will do more than a bit of research into a $7K chargeback.
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    Working on the following: 1970 Baseball PSA, 1970-1976 Raw, World Series Subsets PSA, 1969 Expansion Teams PSA, Fleer World Series Sets, Texas Rangers Topps Run 1972-1989
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  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    Tommy your scenario is possible, make that probable.

    Gecko.................never mind.
    Good for you.
  • My follow-up on her asking me to make an offer...

    Dear lostfaith58,
    Hi, thanks for your reply.
    I would want to hear about the condition and see a picture of the pack, but i can offer $1,250.
    --------
    Her response...

    Dear muggyman,
    Its psa 4 if that helps, Ok ill send you a pic.
  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    Let me guess, the auction that it sold for 20K+ was 'sometime in August'


    Good for you.
  • ssollarsssollars Posts: 933 ✭✭✭✭


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    << <i>

    << <i>I called eBay about this just now:

    "Hi, I am not sure if there is anything that can be done now that the listing has ended, but there was an item sold on eBay tonight that was fraudulent."

    "Oh, really?"

    "Yes. The seller stole the image from a website, superimposed their user ID on the image, and sold it"

    "Can I get the listing ID?"

    "Sure, are you ready?"

    "Yes."

    "OK, it's 140475040945"

    And he said very sarcastically, "oh, really? and how do you know this is a stolen image?"

    "Because it's my card."

    "It's your card?"

    "Yes. The image was stolen from Legacy Auction House's website. I was the winner of this exact item and it is right here in front of me."

    "...can I get that item number again from you, I had it on my desk and it fell off."

    "Sure, it's 140475040945"

    "I'm going to get this to the Trust and Safety Department right now Mr. Mullins"

    "Thank you, if there is anything else you need from me, like scans of the item, or anything else please have eBay contact me." >>



    Really, I don't even believe this conversation took place! image >>




    It really did take place and that is really what the guy said! >>



    I'm so glad I've never had to deal directly with eBay CS.
  • bkingbking Posts: 3,095 ✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>I called eBay about this just now:

    "Hi, I am not sure if there is anything that can be done now that the listing has ended, but there was an item sold on eBay tonight that was fraudulent."

    "Oh, really?"

    "Yes. The seller stole the image from a website, superimposed their user ID on the image, and sold it"

    "Can I get the listing ID?"

    "Sure, are you ready?"

    "Yes."

    "OK, it's 140475040945"

    And he said very sarcastically, "oh, really? and how do you know this is a stolen image?"

    "Because it's my card."

    "It's your card?"

    "Yes. The image was stolen from Legacy Auction House's website. I was the winner of this exact item and it is right here in front of me."

    "...can I get that item number again from you, I had it on my desk and it fell off."

    "Sure, it's 140475040945"

    "I'm going to get this to the Trust and Safety Department right now Mr. Mullins"

    "Thank you, if there is anything else you need from me, like scans of the item, or anything else please have eBay contact me." >>



    Really, I don't even believe this conversation took place! image >>




    It really did take place and that is really what the guy said! >>



    I'm so glad I've never had to deal directly with eBay CS. >>



    Apparently they have paper shredders on the floor, as this "CS" couldn't just pick the number up.
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    Working on the following: 1970 Baseball PSA, 1970-1976 Raw, World Series Subsets PSA, 1969 Expansion Teams PSA, Fleer World Series Sets, Texas Rangers Topps Run 1972-1989
    ----------------------

    Successful deals to date: thedudeabides,gameusedhoop,golfcollector,tigerdean,treetop,bkritz, CapeMOGuy,WeekendHacker,jeff8877,backbidder,Salinas,milbroco,bbuckner22,VitoCo1972,ddfamf,gemint,K,fatty macs,waltersobchak,dboneesq
  • MULLINS5MULLINS5 Posts: 4,517 ✭✭✭
    The guy from eBay either didn't put the item number in to begin with, or exited the screen as it was no concern to him.
  • bkingbking Posts: 3,095 ✭✭


    << <i>The guy from eBay either didn't put the item number in to begin with, or exited the screen as it was no concern to him. >>



    That's what I was thinking when you first posted the exchange. I wonder how many calls they just blow off totally.
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    Working on the following: 1970 Baseball PSA, 1970-1976 Raw, World Series Subsets PSA, 1969 Expansion Teams PSA, Fleer World Series Sets, Texas Rangers Topps Run 1972-1989
    ----------------------

    Successful deals to date: thedudeabides,gameusedhoop,golfcollector,tigerdean,treetop,bkritz, CapeMOGuy,WeekendHacker,jeff8877,backbidder,Salinas,milbroco,bbuckner22,VitoCo1972,ddfamf,gemint,K,fatty macs,waltersobchak,dboneesq
  • Patrick.....simple yes or no question. Do you own the card in question...the 1951 Bowman Mantle PSA 8? Just answer the question with honesty and integrity.
  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
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    Steve
    Good for you.
  • MULLINS5MULLINS5 Posts: 4,517 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Patrick.....simple yes or no question. Do you own the card in question...the 1951 Bowman Mantle PSA 8? Just answer the question with honesty and integrity. >>



    Yes.


  • << <i>

    << <i>Patrick.....simple yes or no question. Do you own the card in question...the 1951 Bowman Mantle PSA 8? Just answer the question with honesty and integrity. >>



    Yes. >>






    I seriously hope that anyone who decides to enter into a deal with Patrick in the future remembers exactly what was claimed here. image
  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    Do you have proof that he does NOT own it?

    Good for you.


  • << <i>Do you have proof that he does NOT own it? >>



    And do you actually believe he owns the card?
    Collecting PSA graded Steve Young, Marcus Allen, Bret Saberhagen and 1980s Topps Cards.
    Raw: Tony Gonzalez (low #'d cards, and especially 1/1's) and Steve Young.
  • NickMNickM Posts: 4,895 ✭✭✭
    Years ago on this forum, I posted a link to a suspiciously low BIN auction for a '61 Aaron PSA 9. Another member came in and said he had recently bought that card at a major catalog auction (I forget which), and it was a stolen scan. He emailed eBay and told them that it was a scam auction and that he owned the card, with a link to where the scan came from. eBay sent him back an email saying that the auction was legitimate and he should feel free to bid with confidence. eBay's "customer service" may have been modeled on George Carlin's explanation of what customer service means.

    Nick
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    Reap the whirlwind.

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  • thunderdanthunderdan Posts: 3,036 ✭✭✭
    Gecko, has anyone ever outlasted you on a back and forth thread like this?

    I think it's fine that you want to play the role of fireman-turned-alchemist-turned-philosopher by addressing the question of when (or if) it's ok to lie, but aren't you supposed to be fighting fires or something? I'd hate for somebody's condo to burn down on account of you and Patrick kicking each other in the nuts.
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  • In arguing with Gecko, you get a point every time he questions your reading skills and comprehension ability. That's when you know you have him on the ropes.
    The best pitch to start a hitter off with is always strike one.


  • "I seriously hope that anyone who decides to enter into a deal with Patrick in the future remembers exactly what was claimed here."


    Just for anyone's information I have done many deals with Patrick over the last few years. Patrick has been up front and honest with every deal we have made. I wouldn't hesitate for a second to make any deals with Patrick.
  • This thread definitely went off-course, but I only want to state that I asked that seller a question about the '52 wax pack that she mentioned she had.

    After she corrected that it is a PSA 5 (and sent me the picture) and not a PSA 4, she wrote... "I prefer paypal i can send a money request for services and you can have the card by november 10th if you pay asap. Another option could be sending a bank check to my lawyer and he couriers over the card same day. Im thinking $2600 is a fair price."

    FYI, she uses an email address "Usamarinesrecruit@..."

    I don't think I will be sending them 26 cents, I mean $2,600.


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