The Official 2011 Topps Heritage Thread: no sticker autos in THIS product!

TNP777

don't forget I've got your address, Doran. I have the ability to send you something unpleasant.

HeritageAddict

I just checked and I do have the blue tinted Garland.

magellan

Craig, You're nailing the big pulls ! Congratulations but please save one for me.

aconte

Doran,

Thanks. I kind of thought that as a few cards I had thought of picking up have shown that from 2007-08.

Interesting.

Also, not sure who 'joshhamiltion' is on the othe board but I agree with Kevin that the Koufax auto is much nicer
than the foil card he presented. It's not even close. The autographs from some of the old time players like Koufax
and Gibson look so clean on the Heritage. It is nice to see them take the time when signing. I have some of Musial's
autos from many years ago. Kinda sad to see the auto not too clean looking. Wish him the best.

T

magellan

<< <i>Hey Guys-

First time checking in here. Things have been really with the weather lately, lots of floods all across the country that needed to be mapped out. Work is slowing down a little bit and I hope to have the new version of the 2011 Heritage spreadsheet done by Sunday night. Still a lot of variations yet to be found but this one should be good. Not planning on cracking a ton of wax for the time being, but I'm always interested in adding rare cards, especially black refractors and autographs. Looking forward to some nice trades here - I have heard good things about this forum! >>



I'm sure a welcome back is in order here.

magellan

So I made a retail run yesterday, 1 hour drive each way. Hit Target & Walmart......At Target picked up 2 blasters, 4 jumbo packs, 2 3-packs, 8 gravity feed packs & 4 retail although these were mixed up in the boxes so not positive which was which just that 8 packs have the red tint variation listed. I also grabbed 2 blasters & 8 jumbo packs at Walmart. Opened everything except the blasters and got :
10 SP
2 chrome
2 nap
5 tn
5 bf
3 nf
3 rookie cards w/white star
1 red tint
1 green tint?
6 black bordered parallels

What are the blue tints , can someone scan 1 so I know what to look for?
In my scan is Happ the green tint, he's the right series, Cedeno is not.

Griffins

Opened up the rest of the case (minus the one box I always keep sealed) last nite with my son. Nothing big, an auto of some guy from '62 (Dave Hillman) and a coin card. Going to collate everything and see if I've got a set with SP's, but suspect I'll be short. Will definitely be short of a chrome set, but will use the refractors to trade for chromes if anyone is interested. Same deal with the black refractor. Think I"ll go for the green set since I'm 1/4 of the way there.
Trade/want list coming later. If the person that sent me something for future considerations can pm me I've lost your info.

mlbfan2

<< <i>Another SSP has been found.

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Did you notice that they did not reverse the NY logos?

matthewbschultz83

<< <i>What are the blue tints , can someone scan 1 so I know what to look for?
In my scan is Happ the green tint, he's the right series, Cedeno is not. >>



What are the "right" numbers for the green tints?

magellan

110-196 I believe Matthew.
Hobby rippage commencing now !

TNP777

Dave: your Cedeno is definitely a green tint, your Happ is not. Your Mattingly has a black border and is of no use to you.

Matt: green, red and blue tints will only fall within the 110-196 range.

lame that Topps made a reverse neg A-Rod and didn't bother making sure everything was reversed. Sloppy.

magellan

Hobby Box 1
8 SP
2 chrome
1 refract
1 CC Jason Bartlett
2 Nap
2 BF
2 NF
1 TN
another Happ same color as My 1st scan ?
1 stamp panel
Not impressed

ThoseBackPages

<< <i>Eric, I believe in most cases, for instance regular Topps, a base set would include all numbers, since there were never short prints in that base set. Parallels and the like would be part of the so-called master set. Heritage has always been regarded as different, though, because starting with the original '01 set there were short prints. It quickly became accepted by most that a base Heritage set did not include them. >>



Not for nothing, thats a LOT of leeway on the part of the Heritage Community.
What about pre-74 Topps Sets, are the SPs in the High Number Releases not part of the set?

Does Topps Heritage scatter the SPs within Non-SPs as far as the numbering goes for the set?
With A&G releases, you know that the "SPs" are 301 - 350, so if one is to collect A&G Base sets (sans SPs), you know what you are working with.

fur72

Great rips guys!

HeritageAddict

Wow so if someone were looking to complete the tint sets: if you had perfect collation (nu dupes) you would have to open 22 retail boxes for blue/red, and for green tint 392 boxes (same for hobby & retail).

magellan

<< <i>Dave: your Cedeno is definitely a green tint, your Happ is not. Your Mattingly has a black border and is of no use to you.

Matt: green, red and blue tints will only fall within the 110-196 range.

lame that Topps made a reverse neg A-Rod and didn't bother making sure everything was reversed. Sloppy. >>



Thanks Joedie, The Cedeno doesn't fall into the 110-196 range though? It's 270

I won't be collecting the various borders except for Red Sox so I will save Mattingly for you.

magellan

Hobby #2
8 SP
2 chrome
1 cc Morneau
2 NAP
2 BF
2 NF
2 TN
1 ad panel
1 buyback-Danny McDevitt KC Exish

HeritageAddict

Come on Dave, I really need a Musial auto or Gibson red ink.

nam812

<< <i>...........lame that Topps made a reverse neg A-Rod and didn't bother making sure everything was reversed. Sloppy. >>



Not sloppy at all. On the original 1962 #490 Clete Boyer's picture is reversed, but the NY Yankee emblem on his hat is not.

magellan

These aren't looking too great for anything yet Doran.
I pulled a 2nd Cedeno with the same background color.

magellan

Hobby #3
8 SP
2 chrome
1 refractor
1 NAP
2 BF
2 NF
2 TN
1 CC Tulowitzki
1 baseball buck-yuck I concur
1 green tint-M. Cabrera...............Cedeno is not a green tint, the Cabrera looks much different with his face & hands tinted as well as the background. I have pulled 3 Cedenos from both hobby & retail & they are all the green background.

TNP777

<< <i>

<< <i>...........lame that Topps made a reverse neg A-Rod and didn't bother making sure everything was reversed. Sloppy. >>



Not sloppy at all. On the original 1962 #490 Clete Boyer's picture is reversed, but the NY Yankee emblem on his hat is not. >>

ah, well there you go - thanks for the clarification, Nick.

Sorry, Dave - I thought based on just the picture that your Cedeno was a green tint. I didn't know he was #270. Perhaps I should do a little more research before I type.

psu92

Do the green tints have a different pose than the regular card?

magellan

Hobby#4
8 SP
2 chrome
1 Refct.-Babe joins Yanks
2 NAP
2BF
2NF
1 TN
& this:

The Cabrera is the green tint from last box

HeritageAddict

Very nice pull Dave!

HeritageAddict

Just got done stringing tire spike strips on the road in front of my house to make sure that I get my case with out the mail carrier driving off.

Walt

Im eliminating crappy boxes from the gene pool one box at a time. I knocked off 2 today, you all can thank me later. I am not almost a case and a half into
it and no blue ink auto and no black refractor. I did pull a nice original Maz for our resident Pirates fan.

HeritageAddict

Didn't you pull a red ink and the A-Rod ssp Kev?

magellan

Georjoe, With all the tints, # variations etc. that Topps plays with, it can get confusing, no apology necessary. Has anyone noticed that there seems to be 2 distinct back colors? I was seeing them 2 to a pack in retail, they stood out.

I'm feeling that Musial in the next couple Doran.

Brian, not sure on the green tint pose variation......my red tint Luke Scott is the same pose as his regular card. Edited to add: I just pulled a regular Cabrera....same pose as the green tint.

psu92

The Cabrera green tint is the same pose as his regular card.

#121 Showalter green tint will be hard to spot. His regular card is a green background.

Walt

You guys want a weekend project...try cataloging all the light and dark wood fronts!!!

HeritageAddict

Trust me when I say I'm pulling for you Dave! My case just arrived, ripping to begin soon!

magellan

<< <i>You guys want a weekend project...try cataloging all the light and dark wood fronts!!! >>



I was noticing that too Kev. I think the original 62's were like that. I have the Topps book which shows every card from the 1st set on up, will have to check it.

magellan

Hobby#5
8 SP
2 chrome
1 refrct.
2 BF
2 NF
1 NAP
2 TN
1 cc M. Cabrera
1 buyback Jim Kaat
1 yuck buck


Go get that auto hit Doran !

magellan

I just noticed this: David Wright # 478 team listed as Cin. Reds..........#478 in '62 DonZimmer in Mets uni & team listed as Cin. Reds.

He has one listed as Mets also.......not sure if he was on your original variation list Jeordoe.

Also the cards with white stars for the rookies are always white on those players so far.

TNP777

nice catch! I'm convinced you found one of the SSPs, Dave - I just looked on the Bay, and every one has him with the Mets.

HeritageAddict

Box 1
8 SP
1 chrome
1 refrct.
2 BF
2 NF
1 NAP
2 TN
Reyes Jersey
Rasmus/Dunn stamp (first Cardinals pull!)

HeritageAddict

Good catch Dave. Joerdie is correct, just looked at my 4 and they are all mets.

magellan

Cool, I really don't look that closely while in the ripping process.
Hobby #6 sorry Doran
9 SP inc. Wright
3 chrome
2 BF
2 NF
2 NAP
1 TN
1 cc Bay
1 ad panel

zep33

I sure was stupid for using a stack of Heritage cards as filler for a small lot I sold the other day LOL

HeritageAddict

I am definitely ripping a little slower today, I think it's because once this case is done I know it's time to start the dreaded sorting.
Box 2
8 SP
3 chrome
2 BF
2 NF
1 NAP
2 TN
Tulo Jersey

magellan

Good pull on the stamp Doran, Have'nt pulled any stamp or coin yet.

Mike that Wright was an SP to begin with.

HeritageAddict

Box 3 (Green Refractor Box)
7 SP
1 chrome
1 refrct.
2 BF
3 NF
1 NAP
2 TN
Votto Jersey

magellan

Hobby #7
8 SP
2 chrome
1 refrct.
2 BF
2 NF
1 NAP
2 TN
1 buyback-J. Donohue, Angels
1 stamp panel
& this


plus 23 more green bordered chromes

zep33

<< <i>Good pull on the stamp Doran, Have'nt pulled any stamp or coin yet.

Mike that Wright was an SP to begin with. >>



oh yeah, didn't think of that. I pulled 2 and both are Mets

HeritageAddict

Box 4
8 SP
3 chrome
1 refrct.
2 BF
2 NF
1 NAP
1 TN
Wright Jersey

TNP777

gentlemen, just for fun, be on the lookout for these two variations - they may or many not exist, but according to an ariticle on PSA regarding the '62 set, cards 277 and 367 (which were checklists) can be found both light and dark wood borders. Since both of those cards in 2011 Heritage are players (Pedro Alvarez and Dan Uggla), the possibility exists that Alvarez and Uggla can be found with the stain differences. More likely, the six checklists themselves will be found with variations, as there were numerous error issues with the checklists in the original '62.

also, you might as well look at:
#279 Benjie Molina. In the '62, the back of Hobie Landrith's card had the word "hobby" instead of "hitting" - it was an uncorrected error.
#392 Ryan Zimmeran All Star. In the '62, Ken Boyer's AS card gave him a batting average of .392 - in '61 he batted .329. Again, this was uncorrected. Topps may have done something similar with Zimmeran's stats. Zimmerman batted .307 last year, so a variation where he batted .370 might be out there.

magellan

Didn't someone get a checklist variation on this board?
Hobby #8-last for now
8 SP
3 chrome-Cabrera is 0520of 1962 but no / between the #'s
1 refrct.
2 BF
2 NF
2 NAP
2 TN
1 buyback-Dave Giusti
1 ad panel

fattymacs

This is all making me dizzy. I've ripped 1 Hobby box, 5 loose packs, 12 walmart racks and 3 walmart blasters. I'll probably snag a few more boxes tomorrow then the sorting begins.

Thanks to all who are doing the leg work on the variations, it is much appreciated. I just hope I find one in my mess of crap I've pulled so far.

parker95

Would anyone care to summarize a comprehensive listing of all 2011 Topps Heritage variations? Would be a great resource to have this information all in one post.

Craig from Texas