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  • 19Lyds19Lyds Posts: 26,490 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i><<Cladking you did the unspeakable!!! You used modern and rare in the same sentence!!!


    Sorry "NO SUCH THING" !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!>>

    Well, this is an interesting and spirited thread. Please forgive the interruption but I have a candidate for modern and rare. Consider the 1972 D quarter with the high relief proof artwork type B reverse. I calculate less than 40,000 were made and I only know of a half dozen in captivity. The rest of them are out there circulating just waiting to be picked up. But after 38 years of circulation, they might be showing their age. Nevertheless, I would like to get ahold of one more in any condition. >>

    I would pay decent money for any of those CuNi clad B coins but I expect that crypto79 doesn't have a clue about what you're talking about. Of course, this is true of many folks as ya gotta spend some time going through CuNI clad coins to know whats out there and I don't think many folks do that anymore.

    Define Modern Rarity? Spend some time looking for one and you'll understand.

    Anybody got some DDO-001 1970-D Washingtons out there?
    I decided to change calling the bathroom the John and renamed it the Jim. I feel so much better saying I went to the Jim this morning.



    The name is LEE!
  • speetyspeety Posts: 5,424
    "There are three types of lies: lies, D*** lies, and Statistics."

    -Mark Twain




    We all know seated dollars are the best image
    Want to buy an auction catalog for the William Hesslein Sale (December 2, 1926). Thanks to all those who have helped us obtain the others!!!

  • Don't get me wrong I do like the Type "B" Washington quarter reverses.
    But one of my personal favorite of the Washington quarter varieties is the Type "M" or CONECA RDV-007
    1969-D 12%, 1970-D 11% and 1970-P 6% of mintage. image

    Terry
  • keyman64keyman64 Posts: 15,499 ✭✭✭✭✭
    This has been a fun thread to read. Thanks to GRANDAM, all of those that participated but most of all ............RickO, the most popular guy on campus today. image

    Greg
    "If it's not fun, it's not worth it." - KeyMan64
    Looking for Top Pop Mercury Dime Varieties & High Grade Mercury Dime Toners. :smile:
  • GRANDAMGRANDAM Posts: 8,465 ✭✭✭✭✭
    My goodness gracious image

    I simply point out the FACT that PCGS has more registered IKE Sets than other Dollar coins and I am amazed by the hatred for IKE'S and Modern's in general image

    As I said before numbers translates into popularity. More sets,,,,, more popular. The reasons why they are popular are not important to my original statement.

    GrandAm imageimage
    GrandAm :)
  • crypto79crypto79 Posts: 8,623


    << <i>My goodness gracious image

    I simply point out the FACT that PCGS has more registered IKE Sets than other Dollar coins and I am amazed by the hatred for IKE'S and Modern's in general image

    As I said before numbers translates into popularity. More sets,,,,, more popular. The reasons why they are popular are not important to my original statement.

    GrandAm imageimage >>



    I don't think you can draw popularity from numbers is the point I am trying to make. If you put 1000 true coin collectors in a line had had them chose between a bust small eagle or an Ike a number between 999 and 1001 would pick the Bust dollar. Under your logic : Ugly looking ladies are more popular than Victoria's secret models because more guys are married to them, which is silly but applies to this on a few levels. Preference = popularity .......prolific accessibility = numbers.
  • "I am amazed by the hatred for IKE'S "

    GrandAm, Things sure got spirited,
    I am glad that it was just on the computer.
    A few collector friends I have here in town are always giving me a hard time (In Fun)
    about my passion for Ike's. The first time brought up the subject about the
    Type "M" reverse CONECA RDV-007 Washington quarter I learned about from
    the research done by ProofArtworkonCircs.they actually thought I had made it up and
    was pulling their legs. I had to bring one of the laptops and an example of the coin to show
    next time we got together. I am trying to show them the usefulness of computers.


    Terry
  • <<Don't get me wrong I do like the Type "B" Washington quarter reverses.
    But one of my personal favorite of the Washington quarter varieties is the Type "M" or CONECA RDV-007
    1969-D 12%, 1970-D 11% and 1970-P 6% of mintage.

    Terry>>

    Don't forget the 1968 S proof Type "M" that was approximately 75% of that year/mint production. Thus it was initially a proof only design.
    What really fascinates me is that the 1968S, 1969 D and 1970D, ALL had Types "M", "B" and at least one business strike style existing simultaneously.



  • << <i><<Don't forget the 1968 S proof Type "M" that was approximately 75% of that year/mint production. Thus it was initially a proof only design.
    What really fascinates me is that the 1968S, 1969 D and 1970D, ALL had Types "M", "B" and at least one business strike style existing simultaneously. >>



    Herb,
    Thank You for reminding me about the 1968-S Proof Type "M" reverse. I forgot about that one.
    is that all that there is as far as the Type "M" reverse?
    The reason I ask is some people I know own a small plastics company and I was thinking about commissioning a holder for a complete set of Type "M" reverses.
    Just thought of this while typing the above.
    I was wondering if you knew how many dies were involved with the 1971-D FEV, RDV-006. ?
    Trying to get an idea on how many were minted.

    Thanks,

    Terry
  • CoinspongeCoinsponge Posts: 3,927 ✭✭✭


    << <i>My goodness gracious image

    I simply point out the FACT that PCGS has more registered IKE Sets than other Dollar coins and I am amazed by the hatred for IKE'S and Modern's in general image

    As I said before numbers translates into popularity. More sets,,,,, more popular. The reasons why they are popular are not important to my original statement.

    GrandAm imageimage >>




    Maybe it is how you define popularity. For most the word has a connotation of preference or desirability, not just quantity.
    Gold and silver are valuable but wisdom is priceless.
  • cladkingcladking Posts: 28,534 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>
    I don't think you can draw popularity from numbers is the point I am trying to make. If you put 1000 true coin collectors in a line had had them chose between a bust small eagle or an Ike a number between 999 and 1001 would pick the Bust dollar. Under your logic : Ugly looking ladies are more popular than Victoria's secret models because more guys are married to them, which is silly but applies to this on a few levels. Preference = popularity .......prolific accessibility = numbers. >>



    And how many "real" collectors do you know with a complete set of
    gem small bust eagle dollars?

    Even though morgans are far more numerous in high grade than Ikes
    there are still more registry sets of Ikes than morgans. It appears that
    neither preference nor "prolific accessibility" has helped the morgans to
    be enterred in the registry as much as the Ikes.

    Don't you think this might be because real collectors collecting real coins
    have found that Ikes are more affordable? Doesn't it seem that the cost/
    benefit ratio must favor the Ike in more people's minds?
    Tempus fugit.
  • segojasegoja Posts: 6,132 ✭✭✭✭
    I Like Ikes & Other large Dollar Sized coins like Morgans and peace Dollars.

    There are some really rare Ikes. MS67 Clads for example.

    Go find me a 76-D Silver Ike, go find me a 73-S Clad Mint State Ike, go find me a nice 77-D Silver Ike.

    How about a unique 1976 (no mint mark) Proof.

    All the coins I mention have mintages well below that of an 1804 dollar. Yes demand for the 1804 is stronger, but the Ikes day will still come around. You don't see these rare coins trade hands much, because they are few in number and the folks that buy tham keep them. When they sell, there are lines of Ike folks waiting to scarf them up.
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    Finest Toned Ike I've Ever Seen, been looking since 1986

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  • cladkingcladking Posts: 28,534 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>


    Maybe it is how you define popularity. For most the word has a connotation of preference or desirability, not just quantity. >>




    I'd certainly agree it's not very popular to spend bust dollars at face. image

    In some things desirability is quantifiable. A Rolls Royce is most assuredly a better
    car than a 1984 Yugo that "needs work". But how do you quantify how much better
    an 1804 dollar is than an Ike. OK, the old coin has $15 worth of silver in it and sells
    for five million while the Ike has a dime's worth of cu/ ni and sells for a few hundred.

    If the Ike is rarer then why can't it be more popular? Is $14.90 going to make or
    break the guy who pays $5,000,000.00 for a coin.
    Tempus fugit.
  • ambro51ambro51 Posts: 13,771 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yes, but a Rolls Royce that "needs work" is a far worse car than the Yugo! Ask anyone who has spent $4000 for the Brake Job image
  • cladkingcladking Posts: 28,534 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Yes, but a Rolls Royce that "needs work" is a far worse car than the Yugo! Ask anyone who has spent $4000 for the Brake Job image >>



    If you pull up in a Yugo that needs brakes everyone just jumps
    out of the way. But a Rolls that needs brakes will still get the
    women crowding round. image

    Besides, if you can afford a Rolls you can afford a $4000 brake
    job.
    Tempus fugit.
  • DieClashDieClash Posts: 3,688 ✭✭✭


    << <i>PCGS Registry Set numbers are not so much "statistics" as a solid measure of the popularity of Ike sets among the PCGS Registry Set owners.

    If Subaru's were the car most entered in amateur auto races across the country, that would not be a statistic as much as a fact. Statistics have their greatest usefulness and impact when absolute measurements are not feasible and sampling techniques are therefore necessary.

    "What is the most popular (with males) breast shape/size?" cannot be easily "measured" but using a representative population of males one could come up with a statistical estimate that would be accurate to +/- some percentage depending on sample size and other parameters. If the study modalities included measurements of male turgor, "objectivity" would be "enhanced". . .

    Gary's PCGS Registry Set numbers are statements of fact and those facts might indeed be the best single measure we have of the relative popularity of the different Dollar Coin Series.

    Rob >>



    This is hillarious! The first coin-related thread that compares "breast shape/size" to the so-called "popularity" of a NiCu clad coin. I love this place! image

    P.S. Rob, I'd love to know what "males" think is the "most popular breast shape/size"! Please post your statistical results. As for me, two breasts of any shape/size are desirable, as long as they're not "man-boobs! imageimageimage
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  • 19Lyds19Lyds Posts: 26,490 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>PCGS Registry Set numbers are not so much "statistics" as a solid measure of the popularity of Ike sets among the PCGS Registry Set owners.

    If Subaru's were the car most entered in amateur auto races across the country, that would not be a statistic as much as a fact. Statistics have their greatest usefulness and impact when absolute measurements are not feasible and sampling techniques are therefore necessary.

    "What is the most popular (with males) breast shape/size?" cannot be easily "measured" but using a representative population of males one could come up with a statistical estimate that would be accurate to +/- some percentage depending on sample size and other parameters. If the study modalities included measurements of male turgor, "objectivity" would be "enhanced". . .

    Gary's PCGS Registry Set numbers are statements of fact and those facts might indeed be the best single measure we have of the relative popularity of the different Dollar Coin Series.

    Rob >>



    This is hillarious! The first coin-related thread that compares "breast shape/size" to the so-called "popularity" of a NiCu clad coin. I love this place! image

    P.S. Rob, I'd love to know what "males" think is the "most popular breast shape/size"! Please post your statistical results. As for me, two breasts of any shape/size are desirable, as long as they're not "man-boobs! imageimageimage >>

    Or of different sizes and shapes uhhhh.........on the same holder! image
    I decided to change calling the bathroom the John and renamed it the Jim. I feel so much better saying I went to the Jim this morning.



    The name is LEE!


  • << <i>Or of different sizes and shapes uhhhh.........on the same holder! image >>




    This lady has a 4 point spread from one side to the other!

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  • <<Herb,
    Thank You for reminding me about the 1968-S Proof Type "M" reverse. I forgot about that one.
    is that all that there is as far as the Type "M" reverse?
    The reason I ask is some people I know own a small plastics company and I was thinking about commissioning a holder for a complete set of Type "M" reverses.
    Just thought of this while typing the above.
    I was wondering if you knew how many dies were involved with the 1971-D FEV, RDV-006. ?
    Trying to get an idea on how many were minted.>>

    Thanks,

    Terry>>

    1968 S, 1969 D, 1970 D and 1970 Philladelphia gives you a complete set of type M quarters unless you want to inclued the class III doubled dies for both circulation strike mints of 1970. Please let me know how much another set holder would cost.

    In the FEV article in the July 2007 Numismatist, a minimum of 4 different dies were identified by the mint mark placement. In addition there were three other doubled dies involved. Except these were all abnormally scarce. The same article estimated total FEV mintage at about 500,000, with a minimum of 250,00 and a maximum of 1,000,000. Offhand, I don't know if these numbers have been refined in the last 3 years.
  • rooksmithrooksmith Posts: 971 ✭✭✭✭
    Franklins rule - short run, lots of varieties, and lots of "different" strikes.. image
    “When you don't know what you're talking about, it's hard to know when you're finished.” - Tommy Smothers
  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 28,136 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Statistics are like a bikini, what they reveal, is very revealing, what they conceal is vital. Cheers, RickO >>



    well put image
  • BigDowgieBigDowgie Posts: 1,771 ✭✭✭✭
    GRANDAM,

    Nice post. Keep stirrin' the pot!
  • cladkingcladking Posts: 28,534 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I look and see a number like 1457 registry sets for Ikes and try to picture the
    1457th best Ike of each date. We're way down below MS-65 for a lot of these
    coins. Then there are thousands of other collectors who are trying to put toget-
    her choice and gem sets from both raw and slabbed coins and you know they
    must have a lot of these top grades as well.

    That's a lot of demand for just a few coins and there's no reason to believe that
    demand growth is going to slow. There's every reason to believe that supply will
    continue to erode and it will be decades before many of these sets hit the market.
    Most collectors tend to be generally younger.

    It took me a long time to warm up to him but I must confess, "I like Ike".
    Tempus fugit.
  • Herb,
    As soon as August vacation is over I am going to begin to
    design the Type "M" holder and talk to the folks at the plant about it.
    As soon as I found out about the specifics from them I'll contact you.



    << <i> "That's a lot of demand for just a few coins and there's no reason to believe that demand growth is going to slow. There's every reason to believe that supply will continue to erode and it will be decades before many of these sets hit the market. Most collectors tend to be generally younger. >>



    Clad King,
    I could not agree with you more. Being the last large silver dollar coin and being relatively inexpensive to build a MS60-63 set
    which will appeal to starting and younger numismatist's. Once they begin to learn about the series is when things really start to take off
    I think. Not to mention the errors and varieties which is what caught my attention about them. I was into Morgan and Peace Dollar VAM's
    when I began the Eisenhower Dollar series. I had no idea when I began the series that there could be so many errors and varieties in such a short series of coins.And to be on the ground floor and to not only be able to watch but to actively participate in new discoveries in any coin series is just a whole lot of fun and an incredible challenge. And I have got to have a challenge.

    Just my $1.25 image


    Terry
  • cladkingcladking Posts: 28,534 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    Just my $1.25 image

    >>




    Well, thank you. As much as I like Ike I do like the quarter even more. image
    Tempus fugit.
  • mr1931Smr1931S Posts: 6,215 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'm not going to get into an arguement on how something made by the billions yesterday can be rare.

    Well,lets see,my superb Blue Pack 1973S,Silver clad has a mintage of only 1,883,140.

    I was looking to buy some nice Blue Pack Ikes at a show a few years ago.Couldn't buy 'em because all that I saw had problems.

    Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds.-Albert Einstein

  • GRANDAMGRANDAM Posts: 8,465 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The 150th poster to this thread will receive a FREE PCGS MS67 1972-S Silver IKE image

    I hope it goes to one of you guys who hates IKE's because after you see a high grade silver IKE you will fall in LOVE image with the series and I have no doubt you will want to complete the set and make it 1458 registered sets imageimageimage

    Seriously, the 150th poster will get the coin. BUT, to get the coin, you will have to PM me saying "I LIKE IKE" and LMK you are #150 and I will confirm it and send you the coin.

    Grandam imageimage



    For the record this post is #77

    (1) Rule, you can have no more than (2) back to back posts or you will be disqualified. I don't want someone posting (50) times back to back in order to win. There must be at least one person between your posts.

    No more than (3) posts to this thread a day by a single poster.
    GrandAm :)
  • BochimanBochiman Posts: 25,361 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That's nice of you Gary.
    I'll kick off post 78 for ya image

    I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment

  • frnklnlvrfrnklnlvr Posts: 2,750
    Cool giveaway! Here's post 79!

    I thought a definition of the word "popular" was needed here. From Merriam-Webster...

    1 : of or relating to the general public
    2 : suitable to the majority: as a : adapted to or indicative of the understanding and taste of the majority <a popular history of the war> b : suited to the means of the majority : inexpensive <sold at popular prices>
    3 : frequently encountered or widely accepted <a popular theory>
    4 : commonly liked or approved <a very popular girl>
    synonyms see common
  • raycycaraycyca Posts: 1,636 ✭✭✭
    Here's post #79. Ike's are so big and bulky, they are rare in POP TOP grade. They are pretty if you consider this fact. If you look at it as just another big fat slug, then, you are missing the OP's point. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Ray
    You only live life once, enjoy it like it's your last day. It just MIGHT be!

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  • I like Ike. But I only voted for him once (actually .8 vote) in 1956 in spite of the Republican's urging me to vote twice for him (seriously).
    If this gets anybody curious, I will explain further. In the meantime, this is #80.
  • BillyKingsleyBillyKingsley Posts: 2,661 ✭✭✭✭
    Please do explain further!

    I have to admit, I like the Ikes. While I do like the Peace dollar more, the Ike, to me, is a far superior coin than the Morgan, or bust. (never really liked that design much). About equal, to me, with the seated but given my love of outer space, if pressed I would likely choose the Ike.

    One of these days I'll finish the set!
    Billy Kingsley ANA R-3146356 Cardboard History // Numismatic History
  • In 1956 I lived in Maine. The Presidential elections were in November like everybody else, but Congressman, Senators, and Governors were elected in the early September election. (The September election has been eliminated now.) The Popular Edmund Muskie was the Democratic candidate for Governor. The Republicans were urging us to support IKE and vote twice for him, once in September by voting Republican for governor and once in November for President. It did NOT work at all. Muskie was elected. That was the first election I voted in. On the top of the ballot, there were big boxes for voting a straight ticket.

    Come November, I was very surprised to see the 5 (then, 4 now) individual electors listed on the ballot. The big print on the top of the Ballot was for voting for a straight ticket again. But if you looked further down on the ballot, it was possible to split your vote between the Republican and Democratic electors. I couldn't resist. I voted for 1 Democrat and 4 Republicans. Good thing I did it then. I have never had such an orportunity since. By 1960 I was out of Maine.

    Maine has a new quirk. The electoral vote can now be split, depending on how the individual Congressional districts vote.
  • The counts listed within the posts seem to be off. I think this will show as #84, but you started at #0. So this is the 85th post, unless somebody else is posting at the same time.

    So, GRANAM, are we aiming for #149 or #150?
  • cladkingcladking Posts: 28,534 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>The counts listed within the posts seem to be off. I think this will show as #84, but you started at #0. So this is the 85th post, unless somebody else is posting at the same time.

    So, GRANAM, are we aiming for #149 or #150? >>




    They do get off sometimes but this one is right.

    The first post isn't counted, only the responces.
    Tempus fugit.
  • cladkingcladking Posts: 28,534 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Cool giveaway! Here's post 79!

    I thought a definition of the word "popular" was needed here. From Merriam-Webster...

    1 : of or relating to the general public
    2 : suitable to the majority: as a : adapted to or indicative of the understanding and taste of the majority <a popular history of the war> b : suited to the means of the majority : inexpensive <sold at popular prices>
    3 : frequently encountered or widely accepted <a popular theory>
    4 : commonly liked or approved <a very popular girl>
    synonyms see common >>




    I don't care much for that "common" crack.

    I'm gonna write to Webster and complain. image
    Tempus fugit.


  • << <i>The counts listed within the posts seem to be off. I think this will show as #84, but you started at #0. So this is the 85th post, unless somebody else is posting at the same time.

    So, GRANAM, are we aiming for #149 or #150? >>


    ^^^^^
    ^^^^^

    GrandAm, Is this right image
    Sorry, Just an inside joke from a while back

    The give-away is a great idea Thanks GrandAm

    Not sure what post this is

  • GRANDAMGRANDAM Posts: 8,465 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I am going by the number that shows on the main thread page. This is post #88.

    The winner will be post #150. But since I am feeling generous and I am approaching 3,000 posts I will award a 2nd coin to the 1st person to PM me after I hit the number 3,000. As above the person must PM ASAP after I show 3,000 posts and say in the PM "I LIKE IKE" image

    GrandAm imageimage
    GrandAm :)
  • 19Lyds19Lyds Posts: 26,490 ✭✭✭✭
    89
    I decided to change calling the bathroom the John and renamed it the Jim. I feel so much better saying I went to the Jim this morning.



    The name is LEE!
  • 19Lyds19Lyds Posts: 26,490 ✭✭✭✭
    Bump to #90
    I decided to change calling the bathroom the John and renamed it the Jim. I feel so much better saying I went to the Jim this morning.



    The name is LEE!
  • cladkingcladking Posts: 28,534 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Cheet thread!
    Tempus fugit.
  • #92

    Is the 1971-D CONECA RDV-006 a Pattern or a Variety?
    I would like to here some thoughts from some experts.
  • ClosedLoopClosedLoop Posts: 1,077 ✭✭✭
    what's an ike? 93
    image
    figglehorn
  • <<Is the 1971-D CONECA RDV-006 a Pattern or a Variety?>>

    There are or were so many in circulation, I have to vote for variety.
  • GaCoinGuyGaCoinGuy Posts: 2,761 ✭✭✭✭
    Whats the US Mints fascination with bald guys with big heads? First Ben and then Ike. I like Ike though, my now-deceased uncle usta give me and my older brother one everytime he saw us when we were kids back in the 70's.


    #94 btw
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  • 19Lyds19Lyds Posts: 26,490 ✭✭✭✭
    I'm Back in at #95
    I decided to change calling the bathroom the John and renamed it the Jim. I feel so much better saying I went to the Jim this morning.



    The name is LEE!
  • droopyddroopyd Posts: 5,381 ✭✭✭
    Ninety-six tears, c'mon and lemme hear you cry, now.

    He'll throw 96 tears thru 24 hours.

    My family liked Ike.
    Me at the Springfield coin show:
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    60 years into this hobby and I'm still working on my Lincoln set!
  • BochimanBochiman Posts: 25,361 ✭✭✭✭✭
    You guys are off count....says this is post 98 (ie....97 posts before me)...but, when the end time comes, go ahead and be off count image

    I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment

  • 19Lyds19Lyds Posts: 26,490 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>You guys are off count....says this is post 98 (ie....97 posts before me)...but, when the end time comes, go ahead and be off count image >>

    I'm just posting.
    I decided to change calling the bathroom the John and renamed it the Jim. I feel so much better saying I went to the Jim this morning.



    The name is LEE!
  • droopyddroopyd Posts: 5,381 ✭✭✭
    Back on track - 100!
    Me at the Springfield coin show:
    image
    60 years into this hobby and I'm still working on my Lincoln set!

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