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Does this type of toning bother you?

relicsncoinsrelicsncoins Posts: 8,102 ✭✭✭✭✭
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  • airplanenutairplanenut Posts: 22,332 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Perhaps a bit thick, but I don't mind it. Often, I find it gives the lustre a creamy texture through most of the fields, with a nice crust at the periphery. Depending on exactly how dark it is and how much of the coin is that dark, it can be very attractive.
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  • derrybderryb Posts: 37,451 ✭✭✭✭✭
    no, because it is on your coin. yes, if it is one of my coins.

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  • dohdoh Posts: 6,457 ✭✭✭
    Not my fav, but I don't hate it.
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  • djdilliodondjdilliodon Posts: 1,938 ✭✭
    Toning that is flat and matte looking in color doesnt appeal to me image
  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,595 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I don't care for it. That type of tarnish, which I assume is black, is the terminal stage of toning. It means that the deterioration of the metal has reached the end point in the areas where it is noted. I own one piece that has that type of toning, an Antietam commemorative half dollar. The coin is totally original and has not marks of any note, which is why I bought it, but today I would have passed on it.
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  • relicsncoinsrelicsncoins Posts: 8,102 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'm wondering if it wouldn't limit the grade to 64.
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  • ConstantineConstantine Posts: 2,369 ✭✭✭
    personally, it is too blotchy for my liking. i might feel differently if the coin was 100 years older than this one and then I could say, well nobody has mucked with it. But Barber dimes should be cleaner.
  • braddickbraddick Posts: 24,505 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I love that type of toning, and you know why?

    It is the first type of patina to be dipped off when located. It is purely original and that antique tone cannot be replaced after a dip, no matter how long the coin is stored nor in what environment.

    Once that original skin is lost the coin never recovers.
    It is a treat and a delight to see such coins still in the market place.
    I think it's a dandy catch and would love to own it myself.

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  • 123cents123cents Posts: 7,178 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I love that type of toning, and you know why?

    It is the first type of patina to be dipped off when located. It is purely original and that antique tone cannot be replaced after a dip, no matter how long the coin is stored nor in what environment.

    Once that original skin is lost the coin never recovers.
    It is a treat and a delight to see such coins still in the market place.
    I think it's a dandy catch and would love to own it myself. >>




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  • JRoccoJRocco Posts: 14,277 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I love that type of toning, and you know why?

    It is the first type of patina to be dipped off when located. It is purely original and that antique tone cannot be replaced after a dip, no matter how long the coin is stored nor in what environment.

    Once that original skin is lost the coin never recovers.
    It is a treat and a delight to see such coins still in the market place.
    I think it's a dandy catch and would love to own it myself. >>



    Perfectly said.
    I also love this toning.
    Whenever I see a coin like this one (in an old NGC fattie) it soon becomes mine image
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  • rheddenrhedden Posts: 6,630 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It's original, but not attractive enough to merit MS65. However, I think the result will be a disaster if you dip it. This coin should be graded MS63 based upon eye appeal- then nobody will have a problem with it.


  • 291fifth291fifth Posts: 24,540 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Negative eye-appeal.
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  • hockeyfan9hockeyfan9 Posts: 457
    I like the 5 o'clock shadow!image
  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,595 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I love that type of toning, and you know why?

    It is the first type of patina to be dipped off when located. It is purely original and that antique tone cannot be replaced after a dip, no matter how long the coin is stored nor in what environment.

    Once that original skin is lost the coin never recovers.
    It is a treat and a delight to see such coins still in the market place.
    I think it's a dandy catch and would love to own it myself. >>



    Sorry, that coin would be instant rejection for me, especially if it were assigned a high grade on it like MS-65. For the amount of money you have to pay for that grade, you can get something with a lot more eye appeal.
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  • WoodenJeffersonWoodenJefferson Posts: 6,491 ✭✭✭✭
    In my eyes, sporadic tarnish as such is a mild form of corrosion and negatively impacts the coin. Sorry.
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  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,606 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I don't care for dark splotchy toning. Negative eye appeal.

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  • DennisHDennisH Posts: 14,009 ✭✭✭✭✭
    No.
    When in doubt, don't.
  • FairlanemanFairlaneman Posts: 10,426 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I look for that type of tone. More often than not it looks better in hand. The bronze/gold at the top of this dime is what shows all of the way around the rim even though the camera did not pick the color up. Original in my book.

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  • MFHMFH Posts: 11,720 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Not my fav, but I don't hate it. >>



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  • RebelRonRebelRon Posts: 544 ✭✭
    That 1909 Dime is O.K. but I wouldn't pay high money for it.
  • sbeverlysbeverly Posts: 962 ✭✭✭
    I love some toned coins.
    I'd pass on that one. Not my cup of tea.
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  • zap1111zap1111 Posts: 1,298 ✭✭
    Nice honest coin
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  • MrSpudMrSpud Posts: 4,499 ✭✭✭
    I like that kind of toning more on circulated coins. I guess it's ok on an unc, but better on a circ.
  • relicsncoinsrelicsncoins Posts: 8,102 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It's not mine, but the owner has offered it to me for about $320. I have an XF45 piece for my type set now, but was looking to upgrade it at some point.
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    << <i>It's not mine, but the owner has offered it to me for about $320. I have an XF45 piece for my type set now, but was looking to upgrade it at some point. >>



    I'd keep looking. The toning on that Barber doesn't add positive eye appeal. You might want to consult the PCGS grading set in its Guidelines for Eye Appeal:
    http://www.pcgs.com/eyeappeal.html
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  • DIMEMANDIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I like it and 320 is more like 64 money, so it's not a bad deal.

    JMHO
  • pursuitoflibertypursuitofliberty Posts: 7,193 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'm with the "I like it" crowd. While it may not be an eye-popping peice of colorful eye-candy, I wholley agree with Braddick, it's a winner that should be priced and graded accordingly.

    It's funny, if that toning was on say a Heraldic Eagle in ChAU or MS, this place would probably be thumbs upping it to death.

    But on a Barber dime, not too much love.

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  • ConnecticoinConnecticoin Posts: 13,070 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The luster on that coin looks dull. There should be some "pop" to the luster to get a 65 -- makes me wonder if a light dip was tried on that coin.
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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Repulsive. I would not consider such a coin for my collection. Cheers, RickO
  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 28,934 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I dont like the looks of it either. To each our own thou image
  • mozinmozin Posts: 8,755 ✭✭✭
    That is one ugly coin, would never be in my collection. It needs a flash dip to make it presentable.
    I collect Capped Bust series by variety in PCGS AU/MS grades.
  • crypto79crypto79 Posts: 8,623 ✭
    I for one love it. I will take that all day over all white
  • sinin1sinin1 Posts: 7,500 ✭
    its alright

    maybe you should ask if you would rather have this coin as a 64

    or a 'similar' coin as a freshly dipped white 66

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