You know last year I didn't buy any because I had a crapping year with the product the year before. So after seeing some of the pulls from last year I thought I'd buy some. Now I totally regret wasting my money on this junk. The first couple of years were awesome, but it's just mainly junk now. And I wasn't upset that I spent the money. I mean, obviously if you're buying this stuff hoping to score the big one you might be disillusioned. It's just the product sucks.
I've stayed away this year, I'll probably pick up a set and the regular mini sets on ebay, but my days of buying A&G cases are over. If Heritage doesn't pick up soon it may be next on my axe list, and with next years being the 1962 style (which I hate), modern may very well be a thing of the past for me.
<< <i>I've stayed away this year, I'll probably pick up a set and the regular mini sets on ebay, but my days of buying A&G cases are over. If Heritage doesn't pick up soon it may be next on my axe list, and with next years being the 1962 style (which I hate), modern may very well be a thing of the past for me. >>
I think you'll feel quite liberated, Doran. I have zero regrets in bowing out of the case I ordered from Joe (thankfully I was able to resell it for him). From here on out, I'll still be doing a Dodger set, but it'll be a cold day before I get sucked back into purchasing endless cases & blasters like I used to. Certain factors contributed:
* my wallet just can't afford it any more. We need folks to spend money to help the economy, but if anything good comes out of this country's mess, it will be that Americans are learning to spend on what they need, rather than what they want. Wanton frivolous purchases, at least for me, are becoming a thing of the past. I still splurge for a card here & there, but am a lot more selective about it. * the always diminishing return really jaded me about future large unopened purchases * SSPs - complete & utter BS. Topps counts on OCB set completists like me. Well, no more - I'm throwing off those chains.
I'll be ready to trade soon. Still opening stuff up to work on the minis and with so many mini sets this year, I'm missing a ton of regular minis so far.
An example of why it's semi-bad luck for me to trade before I'm done ripping:
Last week, someone on the MCG facebook site posted a Dice-k silk card from this years Topps series 2. he had it up for trade and we ended up making a trade for a Triple Threads card I had. On the way home from work that day, I picked up a jumbo box of Series 2. My mail arrived that same day with the silk Dice-K card. On the 3rd pack I opened, yup, you guessed it, another Dice-K silk card.
That scenario, but not as extreme, seems to happen to me every time I make a trade while I'm still into ripping stuff. At times, by the time I'm ready, everyone else is done trading
I still think it's funny that we call these "hits" but they're cards that you can barely sell for $0.99 on ebay. I'll still torture myself with this set this year... I can't help it.
<< <i>I still think it's funny that we call these "hits" but they're cards that you can barely sell for $0.99 on ebay. I'll still torture myself with this set this year... I can't help it. >>
+1. I don't know what Topps needs to do, but I don't think anyone cares about their framed relics in A&G. Either improve the relics or replace the relic volume with more autos. You're right though, many relics go unsold for $1.
Well picked up one more box since the Lincecum silk should easily cover the cost of the first box and then some. All I can say is I am done buying boxes of these cards. Unless you get lucky every box you are going to lose money more often then not since most hits are worth about another pack.
Oh yeah, I wish that Montana came in the box. Been wanting a graded RC of his for years and just got that in the mail.
<< <i>Ginter is not a set you should buy to rip and expect to make money off of.
What the hell ever happened to collectors? >>
I collect, but everyone busts and sells to try to recoup, there have been almost no traders. In the past I have traded for much of my best cards in ginter, this year nada.
<< <i>Ginter is not a set you should buy to rip and expect to make money off of.
What the hell ever happened to collectors? >>
I am going to put a base set together and a reg mini set, but what I am getting at is if you are paying say $95 to $120 a box on these it is like driving a new car off the lot. You lose on average like 40% instantly. I would rather put that money into graded older stuff. Like McAdams said, most of these relics or hits are pretty much worthless. Opening this set is like playing the lotto, and not all of us can win everytime like Zep.
You pay a premium for the right to rip. Yeah, you might lose 25 - 40% on an average hobby box, but you pay a premium for the fun of being the guy who gets to open a box and have a shot at opening a truly spectacular 1/1 etc. Plus, IMO its much funner to rip a case and collate a few sets vs. just buying a set that someone else put together.
< This thread sucks so bad for trading that I had to start a thread to trade for A&G on TheBench.com. >
i had to do the same thing as well. i remember back in 06-07 i could literally dump all my doubles and minis just by trading. quite fun. i posted my wants a few pages back and got only 1 offer for a few of them. and yeah, with the lack of solid "hits", this is feeling a lot more like buying lotto tickets. rather than buy anymore boxes, i might just try to find a cheap ($80) rip card and take my chances there. in 5 years of cracking this stuff (basically the only modern set i collect), ive never gotten a "rip" card before.
i bought a gravity feed and 2 blasters of this carp and probably would have been better off spending the money on toilet paper, serious, i went out bought a lotto ticket and got a 25 buck winner, felt better,, just sayin,, bj
Went to two Targets in Akron/Canton area, and they're full of A&G racks, blasters, and gravity-feed boxes. I didn't buy any... I was looking for 2010 Bowman.
Yeah, well, boxes 3 and 4 were duds...first time I've opened 4 blasters and only gotten 1 framed card. The bazooka is always nice though and I should be close to finishing my base set now.
Oh well, I think A&G is probably out of my system now.
<< <i>Went to two Targets in Akron/Canton area, and they're full of A&G racks, blasters, and gravity-feed boxes. I didn't buy any... I was looking for 2010 Bowman. >>
The dude that was stocking the shelves yesterday said they were completely out of Bowman and were not expecting to get any more.
<< <i>The Brees autos have been selling for $110-135 on the bay. Our one card shop here had one for sale 2 days ago for $300. Today it was gone. >>
Only 1 red Brees has sold on Ebay and it sold for $182, so I would think that would be a good estimate for a ceiling on what a blue could fetch. Can't imagine anyone paying $300 for a blue?? The last blue sold for $60.
Need: Autos: Anne Donovan, Tony Hawk, Tom Knapp, Shawn Johnson, Sig Hansen, Robert Scott, Preston Pittman, Mahlon Duckett, Kelly Kulick, Jordin Sparks, Hans Florine, David Blaine, Tommy Manzella, Wade Davis, Elvis Andrus, Nick Markakis, Ryan Howard, Vernon Wells, Matt Holliday, Jon Lester, Albert Pujols Monsters of Mesozoic: 1, 2, 5, 6, 8, 9, 12, 16, 23, 24, 24 N43: HR, HP, BU, BJ, JU, AE, NM, AR, PF, AP, EL Braves Silk & Braves Bazooka
i wonder if this was a rare card,,, it was sticking out of the end of one of the packs i bought, QC at its best for the price you pay, who am i to complain, i have a revolving door trading card and i cant wait til i get its subset, the elevator door, lololol, am i the only one that sees the humor in this?,bj
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<< <i>I've stayed away this year, I'll probably pick up a set and the regular mini sets on ebay, but my days of buying A&G cases are over. If Heritage doesn't pick up soon it may be next on my axe list, and with next years being the 1962 style (which I hate), modern may very well be a thing of the past for me. >>
I think you'll feel quite liberated, Doran. I have zero regrets in bowing out of the case I ordered from Joe (thankfully I was able to resell it for him). From here on out, I'll still be doing a Dodger set, but it'll be a cold day before I get sucked back into purchasing endless cases & blasters like I used to. Certain factors contributed:
* my wallet just can't afford it any more. We need folks to spend money to help the economy, but if anything good comes out of this country's mess, it will be that Americans are learning to spend on what they need, rather than what they want. Wanton frivolous purchases, at least for me, are becoming a thing of the past. I still splurge for a card here & there, but am a lot more selective about it.
* the always diminishing return really jaded me about future large unopened purchases
* SSPs - complete & utter BS. Topps counts on OCB set completists like me. Well, no more - I'm throwing off those chains.
Dodgers collection scans | Brett Butler registry | 1978 Dodgers - straight 9s, homie
<< <i>Nick tell me what you need before I put all this crap in one lot on eBay >>
What I need:
Regular Back Minis - 5, 6, 8, 10, 14, 21, 22, 23, 25, 27, 28, 29, 33, 34, 37, 38, 40, 44, 47, 52, 53, 54, 56, 57, 62, 63, 65, 68, 70, 71, 72, 73, 74, 75, 76, 77, 79, 81, 83, 88, 89, 90, 93, 94, 95, 98, 102, 103, 104, 109, 110, 116, 117, 118, 119, 120, 122, 123, 124, 125, 126, 129, 131, 132, 135, 140, 143, 144, 145, 149, 150, 151, 152, 154, 155, 156, 159, 163, 166, 172, 176, 178, 179, 180, 181, 184, 191, 192, 193, 195, 196, 197, 203, 204, 207, 213, 215, 216, 217, 220, 221, 223, 224, 225, 230, 231, 232, 235, 236, 237, 238, 239, 242, 243, 244, 245, 246, 248, 250, 252, 253, 255, 256, 257, 262, 264, 265, 266, 267, 272, 273, 274, 276, 278, 280, 284, 290, 291, 292, 297, 299, 300, 304, 305, 312, 319, 322, and 326.
World's Wordsmiths - 12.
National Animals - 5, 8, 10, 15, 16, 17, 20, 21, 25, 31, 35, 36, and 50.
Monsters of the Mesozoic - 1 and 9.
Sailors of the 7 seas - None.
Lords of Olympus - None.
Highlight Sketches - None.
I'll be ready to trade soon. Still opening stuff up to work on the minis and with so many mini sets this year, I'm missing a ton of regular minis so far.
An example of why it's semi-bad luck for me to trade before I'm done ripping:
Last week, someone on the MCG facebook site posted a Dice-k silk card from this years Topps series 2. he had it up for trade and we ended up making a trade for a Triple Threads card I had.
On the way home from work that day, I picked up a jumbo box of Series 2. My mail arrived that same day with the silk Dice-K card. On the 3rd pack I opened, yup, you guessed it, another Dice-K silk card.
That scenario, but not as extreme, seems to happen to me every time I make a trade while I'm still into ripping stuff. At times, by the time I'm ready, everyone else is done trading
<< <i>........At times, by the time I'm ready, everyone else is done trading
Because you wait for the red sux to score a run before you rip, and at the high rate that they get shut out, 5 boxes takes you a week and a half.
Yankees - 469
Red Sox - 481
and that's a minor league Red Sox doing that - no shame this year
<< <i>.....and that's a minor league Red Sox doing that.......... >>
Isn't it always?
<< <i>I still think it's funny that we call these "hits" but they're cards that you can barely sell for $0.99 on ebay. I'll still torture myself with this set this year... I can't help it. >>
+1. I don't know what Topps needs to do, but I don't think anyone cares about their framed relics in A&G. Either improve the relics or replace the relic volume with more autos. You're right though, many relics go unsold for $1.
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Oh yeah, I wish that Montana came in the box. Been wanting a graded RC of his for years and just got that in the mail.
What the hell ever happened to collectors?
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<< <i>Ginter is not a set you should buy to rip and expect to make money off of.
What the hell ever happened to collectors? >>
I collect, but everyone busts and sells to try to recoup, there have been almost no traders. In the past I have traded for much of my best cards in ginter, this
year nada.
<< <i>Ginter is not a set you should buy to rip and expect to make money off of.
What the hell ever happened to collectors? >>
I am going to put a base set together and a reg mini set, but what I am getting at is if you are paying say $95 to $120 a box on these it is like driving a new car off the lot. You lose on average like 40% instantly. I would rather put that money into graded older stuff. Like McAdams said, most of these relics or hits are pretty much worthless. Opening this set is like playing the lotto, and not all of us can win everytime like Zep.
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i had to do the same thing as well. i remember back in 06-07 i could literally dump all my doubles and minis just by trading. quite fun. i posted my wants a few pages back and got only 1 offer for a few of them. and yeah, with the lack of solid "hits", this is feeling a lot more like buying lotto tickets. rather than buy anymore boxes, i might just try to find a cheap ($80) rip card and take my chances there. in 5 years of cracking this stuff (basically the only modern set i collect), ive never gotten a "rip" card before.
case in point,, what the crap is this?,,bj
4 base SPs
1 WB mini
1 WW mini
1 MM mini
1 black
1 Josh Johnson relic
1 Bazooka - #1 Adam Lind
1 MM mini
1 NA mini
1 LOO mini
1 mini SP
Oh well, I think A&G is probably out of my system now.
I'm interested in the Lind Bazooka. What do you want for it?
-Chris
http://sruchris.com
<< <i>Went to two Targets in Akron/Canton area, and they're full of A&G racks, blasters, and gravity-feed boxes. I didn't buy any... I was looking for 2010 Bowman.
The dude that was stocking the shelves yesterday said they were completely out of Bowman and were not expecting to get any more.
Marvin Miller GU SP
Hans Florine GU SP
Drew Brees AU SP
Soriano MLB Logo Patch /50
Tommy Hanson N43 auto /15
also DiVinci bazooka and no numbers of Philips and Molina.
<< <i>I think I just set a world's record. Just BIN'd a Haren Bazooka for less than the S&H cost ($2.99 vs. $3.00). >>
3 bucks to ship one mini?? wow
<< <i>I am now 0-19 boxes on rip cards but got some cool stuff out of a 7 box rip today:
Marvin Miller GU SP
Hans Florine GU SP
Drew Brees AU SP
Soriano MLB Logo Patch /50
Tommy Hanson N43 auto /15
also DiVinci bazooka and no numbers of Philips and Molina. >>
Nice work, those are some very solid pulls. I haven't followed the N43 autos, but I think the Brees autos are still getting 75-100.
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<< <i>
<< <i>I am now 0-19 boxes on rip cards but got some cool stuff out of a 7 box rip today:
Marvin Miller GU SP
Hans Florine GU SP
Drew Brees AU SP
Soriano MLB Logo Patch /50
Tommy Hanson N43 auto /15
also DiVinci bazooka and no numbers of Philips and Molina. >>
Nice work, those are some very solid pulls. I haven't followed the N43 autos, but I think the Brees autos are still getting 75-100. >>
Maybe Ill finally have some trade bait for some Ryan Howard now!
Thanks
HAVE
Base : 10,11,15,21,22,24,27,33,45,47,58,61,63,66,73,75,83,87,8,89,99,100,106,112,117,121,
129,130,134,149,150,156,161,165,168,172,191,192,193,203,207,227,229,230,231,235,
237,242,244,253,254,255,257,259,260,261,264,266,267,277,290,291,295,297,314,316,319,349
TDH: 14,22
BS: 4,8,13
Minis: 27,28,38,72,87,120,135,150,179,223,307,316,324,338
AG Minis: 2,46,82,146,174,188,206,255,300,314
BB Minis: 70,132,168,177,229,243,347
NA Minis: 3,6,7,18,22,23,24,41,42
MM Minis: 5,8,16,23
LOO Minis: 16,21,23,25
SSS Minis: 2
WW Minis: 9
Relics: Nolasco GU, I Rodriguez GU, Ichiro GU, Quentin GU, Kemp GU
NEED
Base: 1,5,6,8,9,12,13,16,18,19,20,25,28,30,36,38,41,48,51,52,54,56,57,59,65,68,69,70, 72,77,78
82,90,94,95,98,104,105,110,115,116,118.120,123,125,128,131,132,135,138,141,144,145,146,148
157,160,162,163,164,169,175,178,182,183,186,188,196,197,198,199,200,201,204,205,211,216,221,236
240,241,243,245,246,247,250,256,262,265,268,270,271,272,273,275,276,279,280,282,283,286,287,296
301,303,304,305,306,307,309,310,313,321,324,325,328,329,330,331,332,333,336,338,343,344,345,346
347,348
Relics: David Blaine, Joey Votto, Tony Hawk, Drew Brees
Autos: David Blaine, Drew Brees, Sig Hansen
<< <i>The Brees autos have been selling for $110-135 on the bay. Our one card shop here had one for sale 2 days ago for $300. Today it was gone. >>
Only 1 red Brees has sold on Ebay and it sold for $182, so I would think that would be a good estimate for a ceiling on what a blue could fetch. Can't imagine anyone paying $300 for a blue?? The last blue sold for $60.
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Framed Autos: Clayton Kershaw, Alexi Ramirez
Framed Relics: Ryan Howard jersey, Pudge jersey, Ichiro jersey, Tulowitski Bat,
Ripped card: Victorino
Silk: Daniel Hudson (RC)
Base (mini) - 7, 17, 126, 139, 186, 191, 265, 311, 314, 318, 321, 322, 323, 325, 327, 329, 334, 338, 342, 343,
Black- 4, 34, 46, 47, 61, 80, 100, 158, 167, 174, 185, 200, 201, 219, 223, 227, 244, 305
A&G- asston
Animals: Peru, Panama, Phil, S Korea, Croatia, Israel, Brazil, Pakistan
Lords of Olympus: 2, 3, 6, 7, 10, 13, 14, 15, 18, 22, 23, 24, 25
Sailors:3, 7, 9
Wordsmiths:13, 15, 7, 7, 8, 6
Need:
Autos: Anne Donovan, Tony Hawk, Tom Knapp, Shawn Johnson, Sig Hansen, Robert Scott, Preston Pittman, Mahlon Duckett, Kelly Kulick, Jordin Sparks, Hans Florine, David Blaine, Tommy Manzella, Wade Davis, Elvis Andrus, Nick Markakis, Ryan Howard, Vernon Wells, Matt Holliday, Jon Lester, Albert Pujols
Monsters of Mesozoic: 1, 2, 5, 6, 8, 9, 12, 16, 23, 24, 24
N43: HR, HP, BU, BJ, JU, AE, NM, AR, PF, AP, EL
Braves Silk & Braves Bazooka
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<< <i>Can't imagine anyone paying $300 for a blue?? >>
I'm in Louisiana and Saintsmania is still going strong.
I need a lot
Here is a list of what I need:
This day in history
TDH1 TDH20 TDH53
TDH2 TDH23 TDH58
TDH5 TDH28 TDH59
TDH8 TDH38 TDH61
TDH15 TDH42 TDH64
TDH46
Baseball Sketches
2
4 11
5 13
6 14
Base cards
19 108 160 215 276 339
23 123 169 216 302 341
30 138 173 225 305 346
31 141 176 228 317
36 142 182 245 320
52 145 187 247 325
53 146 200 268 331
62 147 212 272 334
77 154 214 273 335
Have to trade:
TDH
21 50
31 51
36 56
40 65
40 65
40 68
44 70
XTRA Base
2 46 91 119 157 217 262
3 46 92 122 159 218 263
14 46 92 126 159 222 267
15 50 93 127 167 222 279
18 50 93 127 174 226 281
21 51 94 130 178 226 285
21 56 94 133 184 229 285
25 60 95 134 184 229 288
29 64 97 134 185 234 292
32 64 100 136 190 237 294
35 71 100 137 193 238 295
37 74 100 139 193 238 298
38 74 102 143 194 239 301
38 79 106 143 203 239 311
39 80 106 149 208 242 315
39 82 106 149 208 244 337
42 85 107 149 210 249 337
43 86 114 152 210 249 340
44 90 114 152 213 261
44 91 119 155 217 262
N43 jm Joe Mauer
I will add minis later tonight
Thanks,
Joe
Here are the minis I have:
BLACK 4, 93, 95, 219, 250, 321 191, 41rc, 202, 167, 296, 201
A&G BACK 75, 129, 130, 205, 207, 212, 222rc, 230, 249, 299, 349, 300, 83, 255, 250, 74, 295rc, 46, 44
REGULAR 29, 58, 68, 73, 91, 101, 202, 264
298, 309, 325, 327, 347, 317, 310, 22, 95
Billingsley no #
WW 1, 3, 12, 7, 9, 2, 5
LO 17, 21, 23, 24, 6, 12, 9, 25, 1, 23, 20
MM 1, 2, 5, 15, 20, 20, 5, 2, 7, 23, 4
NA 2, 4, 4, 8, 23, 25, 49, 44, 50, 15, 20, 8, 12
SSS 1 , 10