Oh my goodness, you guys are an absolute scream. I haven't had such a great time on a forum in a very long time, maybe ever.
What 'is' that 1818 JRocco ? I've not seen another like it. Is it a ULDS of soemthing known?
Quarternut, please don't feel too badly about those counter stamps on your coins. I'll bet that they still have 'some' value. I have seen that same stamp before somewhere. I think that the Chinese did this as a guarantee of a least 70% silver content. But then, I am a newbie, so I could be wrong.
All of you guys are just fabulous! I am so happy to be here.
I am almost too shy to post anymore of my sorry coins, but I figure if Quarternut can be shameless, I guess that I will be too. I'll scrape up some pictures and post them tomorrow.
Yes Lewy, this one is an advanced late die state of the 1818 O-104 Here are some PUP for this "b" die state PS - Those coins Quarternut posted are VERY collectible Houcks's Panacea counterstamps
I used to be somebody, now I'm just a coin collector. Recipient of the coveted "You Suck" award, April 2009 for cherrypicking a 1833 CBHD LM-5, and April 2022 for a 1835 LM-12, and again in Aug 2012 for picking off a 1952 FS-902.
<< <i>Sticking with the 1823 theme just once more.....I had to post this DREAM COIN, which belongs to none other than Dale Friend, a man with quite the bevy of CBH beauties!!!!
Hope you don't mind Dale...... >>
This 1823 doesn't exactly fit my set but it's all I have. Lance.
Refering back to Mozin's puzzle about his 1823-102 who can tell me what is different about the obverse on this 1827?
Due to excessive lapping of the die prior to striking any coins, the mouth of Liberty looks like it is open, one of only two obverse dies found to show this feature in 1827.
Or maybe you are eluding to the fact that the obverse die used to create this die marriage (O-106), was also used to create the very rare O-127 die marriage when it was paired with reverse U.
QN
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Anyone interested in buying, I am thinking of selling soon on BST. 104B? R7/R6 Can anyone tell me what is is worth? It look better in hand and sports a green CAC label
"Stay on the lookout, there may be a wise old Bear wandering in the numismatic woods!!!"
Thanks for the warning Goldbully, but I like wise old bears. I like kind old bears who will take the time to teach me something too, and I like old bears with dry sense's of humor, and I just love big cuddly teddy bears. I am rather turned off by know it all bears, and bears with big egos. I have not encountered any of those on 'this' thread though. These are the enchanted woods so far.
I was only joshing about the Houcks Pancea coins QN. I have heard of them, but have never seen one up close. Amazing to see three in one collection.
I would like some help from some wise old bears with something on the 1814 O-102A please. It is a pretty common coin, and although mine is in lowly condition, I'll bet there are several BU examples here. Anyway, the main focal point to me is the reverse lettering of what appears to be 'Liberty' under the left wing of the bird. Why is this feature in that particular location and what is the cause of the lettering?
Love the coins here, especially the clashes and die breaks.
Lewy, your coins have great eye appeal. I would take all of them.
The 1814 is clashed dies, and the "LIBERTY" from the cap is showing up on the reverse. In your example, I think the reason it shows up multiple times is because when the two dies hit in the absence of a planchet, it happened several times, so the reverse has several different impressions of the LIBERTY stamped into it.
“A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly."
These two are the same marriage, but different die states, and different amounts of wear. The better condition coin is rarer, but only worth half as much as the more worn coin. Supply and demand. Most collectors pay up for that tiny dot between the 8 and 7.
I collect Capped Bust series by variety in PCGS AU/MS grades.
<< <i>I am uneducated when it comes to bust halves, what do you mean by "tiny dot between the 8 and 7"? There is the "1" digit that is in between them? >>
Al, I think Mozin meant the dot between the 1 and 7, otherwise known as the O-103 R2- punctuated date.
Mozin's bottom CBH is a 1817 O-103a, which happens to be an R3, BOTH of which are considered tough to find in AU, like Mozin's
Here's my 181.7 O-103, not as well struck as Mozin's, but the same grade and with a pretty ring of toning on both sides.
Thanks Lava, I will assume that since there were no dissenting voices to that which is a die clash, I will take it as fact. Very good, but this one may be a wee bit more difficult.
It is 1809 O-107A..........The obverse incorporates some nice cracks, but the object of interest to me is the reverse. Specifically, what event caused the raised milling impressions?
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What 'is' that 1818 JRocco ? I've not seen another like it. Is it a ULDS of soemthing known?
Quarternut, please don't feel too badly about those counter stamps on your coins. I'll bet that they still have 'some' value. I have seen that same stamp before somewhere. I think that the Chinese did this as a guarantee of a least 70% silver content. But then, I am a newbie, so I could be wrong.
All of you guys are just fabulous! I am so happy to be here.
I am almost too shy to post anymore of my sorry coins, but I figure if Quarternut can be shameless, I guess that I will be too. I'll scrape up some pictures and post them tomorrow.
Thanks for the welcome everyone!
<< <i>Anyone notice something special about this CBH, besides the Patched 3? There is something unexpected about the reverse.
Here is another 1823 Patched 3 for comparison.
Here are some PUP for this "b" die state
PS - Those coins Quarternut posted are VERY collectible Houcks's Panacea counterstamps
Love your energy, Lewy.
Stay on the lookout, there may be a wise old Bear wandering in the numismatic woods!!!
Those are two different reverses, thus two different die marriages utilizing the same die stage of the obverse die (patched 3).
The first one you posted in the rarer O-102 and the last one is the more common O-101.
The reverse die on the O-102 was first used with the 1823 O-108.
QN
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The first coin is PCGS 58 O-102 R4, worth around $5,000.The second is NGC 58 O-101a, worth around $2,000.
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<< <i>Mozin,
Those are two different reverses, thus two different die marriages utilizing the same die stage of the obverse die (patched 3).
The first one you posted in the rarer O-102 and the last one is the more common O-101.
The reverse die on the O-102 was first used with the 1823 O-108.
QN >>
Great job, QN!!!!!! I'm impressed with your CBH knowledge!!!
Crossed from NGC AU58 to PCGS AU58
O-104a R-3
Upgrade here???
first, an 1812 O-106 to match yours...
Then one with a nice series of clashes on the reverse...
a date that hasn't shown up yet...
and finally one from my favorite year...
Refering back to Mozin's puzzle about his 1823-102 who can tell me what is different about the obverse on this 1827?
<< <i>Sticking with the 1823 theme just once more.....I had to post this DREAM COIN, which belongs to none other than Dale Friend, a man with quite the bevy of CBH beauties!!!!
Hope you don't mind Dale...... >>
This 1823 doesn't exactly fit my set but it's all I have.
Lance.
Due to excessive lapping of the die prior to striking any coins, the mouth of Liberty looks like it is open, one of only two obverse dies found to show this feature in 1827.
Or maybe you are eluding to the fact that the obverse die used to create this die marriage (O-106), was also used to create the very rare O-127 die marriage when it was paired with reverse U.
QN
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QN
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<< <i>Some very nice CBH`s being posted...Wow awesome coins "drddm" ! Here`s my one and only CBH...Hope you like...
Thanks AuroraBorealis.....your 1832 MS67* is AMAZING, thanks for posting it.
Lance, love the toning on your beautiful 1823
Here's another nicely toned CBH from my set.......1824/1
Thanks for the warning Goldbully, but I like wise old bears. I like kind old bears who will take the time to teach me something too, and I like old bears with dry sense's of humor, and I just love big cuddly teddy bears.
I am rather turned off by know it all bears, and bears with big egos. I have not encountered any of those on 'this' thread though. These are the enchanted woods so far.
I was only joshing about the Houcks Pancea coins QN. I have heard of them, but have never seen one up close. Amazing to see three in one collection.
I would like some help from some wise old bears with something on the 1814 O-102A please. It is a pretty common coin, and although mine is in lowly condition, I'll bet there are several BU examples here. Anyway, the main focal point to me is the reverse lettering of what appears to be 'Liberty' under the left wing of the bird. Why is this feature in that particular location and what is the cause of the lettering?
<< <i>Some very nice CBH`s being posted...Wow awesome coins "drddm" ! Here`s my one and only CBH...Hope you like...
AB
YIKES!!! What a coin!!!
Lane
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Lewy, your coins have great eye appeal. I would take all of them.
The 1814 is clashed dies, and the "LIBERTY" from the cap is showing up on the reverse. In your example, I think the reason it shows up multiple times is because when the two dies hit in the absence of a planchet, it happened several times, so the reverse has several different impressions of the LIBERTY stamped into it.
Hope these pix keep coming.
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I just love Capped Bust Half weekends.....
Love your 1817/3 fishteeth..............here's another crusty original 1817/3
<< <i>Great coins everyone, keep them coming.
I just love Capped Bust Half weekends.....
Love your 1817/3 fishteeth..............here's another crusty original 1817/3
Very cool 7 over 3!!!!
AB
And, in case you haven't figured it out by the CBHs I've been posting, I just LOVE CBH overdates......here's a favorite from my set - 1820/19
<< <i>I am uneducated when it comes to bust halves, what do you mean by "tiny dot between the 8 and 7"? There is the "1" digit that is in between them? >>
Al, I think Mozin meant the dot between the 1 and 7, otherwise known as the O-103 R2- punctuated date.
Mozin's bottom CBH is a 1817 O-103a, which happens to be an R3, BOTH of which are considered tough to find in AU, like Mozin's
Here's my 181.7 O-103, not as well struck as Mozin's, but the same grade and with a pretty ring of toning on both sides.
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BHNC member # 184!
http://www.busthalfaddict.com
BHNC member # 184!
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Here's a CBH in which the olive branches didn't receive too much watering as one of the leaves didn't grow
<< <i>Looks like you're catching up Dave, nice 1829/27.......SWEET busties, love the CRUST!!!!
Here's a CBH in which the olive branches didn't receive too much watering as one of the leaves didn't grow
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Thanks...and catchin' up. That's what what I'm doin'. Catchin' up.
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Boy, do I wish I needed to catch up with CBHs like you
BTW, nice 1810......here's my one and only 1810
XF45 O-102a
It is 1809 O-107A..........The obverse incorporates some nice cracks, but the object of interest to me is the reverse. Specifically, what event caused the raised milling impressions?
This is fun....great coins everyone!!!!
<< <i>Thanks AuroraBorealis..............I love your 1832 MS67*........beautiful toning!!!
And, in case you haven't figured it out by the CBHs I've been posting, I just LOVE CBH overdates......here's a favorite from my set - 1820/19 >>
Really, Dave? Couldn't you just say you LOVE CBH's of all kinds?
I don't have many nice overdates but here's a modest one I like.
Lance.
<< <i>I was wondering when that 1818 would come out Goldbully..............GORGEOUS
You remember her, drddm?? Got her from Ray at EAC's!!!
She is a beauty, thanks.
This is turning out to be a great thread....love all of your ladies!!!
I'll have to post some more later!!!!
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<< <i>I was wondering when that 1818 would come out Goldbully..............GORGEOUS
You remember her, drddm?? Got her from Ray at EAC's!!!
She is a beauty, thanks.
This is turning out to be a great thread....love all of your ladies!!!
I'll have to post some more later!!!! >>
Goldbully, I sure do remember her, and she's as beautiful as EVER, congrats!!!
Thanks for starting this thread, GREAT IDEA
Really nice, 1812/1 Lance......love the look on it!!
So, let's stay with the overdate theme a little more, shall we...........here's a recent newp and one of my favorite overdates - 1808/7
<< <i>found it.
Wow, Grip, that 1818/7 is a BEAUTY