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My first BAD e-bay purchase, what steps to take next?

keepdachangekeepdachange Posts: 1,374
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I won a lot of 30 90% Kennedy's and they came today and all 30 of them are 40%. This is my first purchase that has gone wrong so what steps would you take. Thanks

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  • gsa1fangsa1fan Posts: 5,566 ✭✭✭
    Notify PayPal resolution center & buyer. That he/seller sent wrong coins.
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  • bestmrbestmr Posts: 1,777 ✭✭✭
    Contact the seller and say they either sent out the wrong ones or outright lied. They SHOULD return it if it was just a mistake. If they play hardball, neg them and then try to get your money back through Ebay/paypal. That part I've never done so I can't offer any help there.
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  • KISHU1KISHU1 Posts: 2,118 ✭✭✭
    They not know the difference between 90% and 40% let them know and ask them for a refund or a partial refund if you want the 40%. IF the give you a hard time notify Ebay and Paypal and file a dispute claim. You should have no problem getting your money back

    Good Luck

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  • garrynotgarrynot Posts: 1,874 ✭✭✭
    Were there photos in the ad? All the 90% are from '64.
  • keepdachangekeepdachange Posts: 1,374


    << <i>Were there photos in the ad? All the 90% are from '64. >>



    blurry photo, but the listing clearly states "90% silver kennedy's"
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  • garrynotgarrynot Posts: 1,874 ✭✭✭
    Yea, sorry about that. I just saw the photo... 11 people bid on that based on that sorry photo and no one apparently asked that question.
  • OPAOPA Posts: 17,119 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>They not know the difference between 90% and 40% let them know and ask them for a refund or a partial refund if you want the 40%. IF the give you a hard time notify Ebay and Paypal and file a dispute claim. You should have no problem getting your money back

    Good Luck

    Frankimage >>



    I'm also of that opinion, based on what he normally sells.
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  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,122 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Yea, sorry about that. I just saw the photo... 11 people bid on that based on that sorry photo and no one apparently asked that question. >>



    What question should they have asked? The auction clearly states thirty 90% Kennedy's.

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  • keepdachangekeepdachange Posts: 1,374
    Emailed seller and he responded quickly with " I did not have them tested and someone told me they were 90% silver. If you had them tested and they are only 40% then I will refund you the amount or if you want to keep them I'll refund the difference. Either way I will send you a money order tomorrow"

    Told him I would keep them for $60 and refund the difference and if that does not work for him I'll return them after being refunded. But told him that it would have to be via pay pal as I'm little skeptical of a money order at this point. So I guess we'll see.

    Thanks for all of the advice as I never had a problem before this.
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  • garrynotgarrynot Posts: 1,874 ✭✭✭


    The question is: Are they all dated 1964
  • keepdachangekeepdachange Posts: 1,374


    << <i>The question would be: are they all dated 1964. >>



    That question is answered in his title of "LOT OF (30) KENNEDY HALF DOLLARS 90% SILVER (15 SHOWN)"

    since 1964 is the only circulated 90% Kennedy, the question need not be asked
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  • mkman123mkman123 Posts: 6,849 ✭✭✭✭
    money order ? They should PP you the refund immediately!!!
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  • garrynotgarrynot Posts: 1,874 ✭✭✭
    I said my peace in the US Coin Forum. The question was not answered in the description. A photo like that begs the question. And the seller's response indicates he still doesn't get it.
  • BochimanBochiman Posts: 25,378 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Emailed seller and he responded quickly with " I did not have them tested and someone told me they were 90% silver. If you had them tested and they are only 40% then I will refund you the amount or if you want to keep them I'll refund the difference. Either way I will send you a money order tomorrow"

    Told him I would keep them for $60 and refund the difference and if that does not work for him I'll return them after being refunded. But told him that it would have to be via pay pal as I'm little skeptical of a money order at this point. So I guess we'll see.

    Thanks for all of the advice as I never had a problem before this. >>



    If you paid with paypal, he should refund with paypal. That way, he also gets a refund on the fees for the amount that he returns to you.

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  • jmski52jmski52 Posts: 22,826 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It's entirely possible that he doesn't know which Kennedy halves were 90% and which were 40%. His other current auctions indicate to me that he (or she) is not a "coin person".
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  • keepdachangekeepdachange Posts: 1,374


    << <i>And the seller's response indicates he still doesn't get it. >>



    guess that makes 2 of you image
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  • jimq112jimq112 Posts: 3,511 ✭✭✭
    It's hard for me to believe that the seller could take good clear photos of his gold coin and several watches that he listed recently (ended auctions) and knew enough to mention that his 1908 st gaudens was a "no motto" but yet couldn't get a clear picture of the silver half dollars and didn't know that 1965+ kennedy half dollars are not 90%.

    I would file a SNAD dispute with paypal, not ebay. Give it a day and accelerate it to a claim. They'll side with you as long as you explain in the claim that 1964 is the only date kennedy that were 90% and the seller either didn't know what he was selling or knew and tried to trick you.

    Once the claim is decided in your favor, return all the coins to him. You didn't bid on 40% silver, you shouldn't have to buy 40% silver.

    I would return them signature confirmation just to eliminate a USPS mistake. You have to pay shipping to send them back, paypal will return the shipping price you originally paid.

    Maybe the seller is a nice honest guy but why give him a chance to be dishonest. Keep everything through paypal and you'll get your money back.
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  • jmski52jmski52 Posts: 22,826 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It's hard for me to believe that the seller could take good clear photos of his gold coin and several watches that he listed recently (ended auctions) and knew enough to mention that his 1908 st gaudens was a "no motto"

    Where are those auction results? I'm not seeing them....image
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  • RedHerringRedHerring Posts: 2,077 ✭
    No Motto
  • gecko109gecko109 Posts: 8,231 ✭


    << <i>The question is: Are they all dated 1964 >>




    Blurry photo, or NO photo, with a title that says "90% silver", why would a potential buyer need to ask if they are all 1964's? Was there another year of the Kennedy that is 90%? If a seller had an item listed with the title of "Purple Plush Dino", I wouldnt expect ANYONE to have to ask what color it was. Get it?
  • keepdachangekeepdachange Posts: 1,374


    << <i>Blurry photo, or NO photo, with a title that says "90% silver", why would a potential buyer need to ask if they are all 1964's? Was there another year of the Kennedy that is 90%? If a seller had an item listed with the title of "Purple Plush Dino", I wouldnt expect ANYONE to have to ask what color it was. Get it? >>



    But would it Barney or Dino from the Flintstones? image
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  • garrynotgarrynot Posts: 1,874 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>The question is: Are they all dated 1964 >>




    Blurry photo, or NO photo, with a title that says "90% silver", why would a potential buyer need to ask if they are all 1964's? Was there another year of the Kennedy that is 90%? If a seller had an item listed with the title of "Purple Plush Dino", I wouldnt expect ANYONE to have to ask what color it was. Get it? >>




    Uh no. You are restating my point. It is a simple question, tests the sellers reliability. It takes 5 seconds to ask the question. If you want to take a chance on that photo, no questions asked and pay $177 for $15 in coin or $1770 for $150 in coin or $17,700 for $1,500 and then go thru all the grief of getting your money back, go for it. We are not talking about 30 Mercury dimes. If I see that ad and I know that one year Kennedy Half Dollars were silver, six years they were 40% silver and since then they are zinc, I am going to ask the question. Why are we arguing about this?
  • gsa1fangsa1fan Posts: 5,566 ✭✭✭
    imageimage KILLING ME!image
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  • garrynotgarrynot Posts: 1,874 ✭✭✭

    Im with you Tim, Im going back to my Carson City Dollars...
  • keepdachangekeepdachange Posts: 1,374


    << <i>Im with you Tim, Im going back to my Carson City Dollars... >>



    think he might be laughing at you not with you image
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  • dontippetdontippet Posts: 2,606 ✭✭✭✭
    I absolutely would not have asked if all the coins are 90%. It states in the auction that they are. The item was not received as described. Email the seller and ask for a full refund including shipping both ways. If they don't cooperate, then dispute it with Paypal. If you still can't get your money back, then dispute it with your credit card company, and you will get all of your money back. Hopefully you used Paypal with a credit card, and not with Paypal balance or a checking account.
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  • gecko109gecko109 Posts: 8,231 ✭


    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>The question is: Are they all dated 1964 >>




    Blurry photo, or NO photo, with a title that says "90% silver", why would a potential buyer need to ask if they are all 1964's? Was there another year of the Kennedy that is 90%? If a seller had an item listed with the title of "Purple Plush Dino", I wouldnt expect ANYONE to have to ask what color it was. Get it? >>




    Uh no. You are restating my point. It is a simple question, tests the sellers reliability. It takes 5 seconds to ask the question. If you want to take a chance on that photo, no questions asked and pay $177 for $15 in coin or $1770 for $150 in coin or $17,700 for $1,500 and then go thru all the grief of getting your money back, go for it. We are not talking about 30 Mercury dimes. If I see that ad and I know that one year Kennedy Half Dollars were silver, six years they were 40% silver and since then they are zinc, I am going to ask the question. Why are we arguing about this? >>





    Ahh, ok...its all clear now. So YOU are that pesky ebay bidder who asks me all those stupid and annoying questions that are answered right in the TITLE of my posted items. Message received.image
  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,122 ✭✭✭✭✭
    garrynot---I understand your point. When dealing with the typical eBay idiot, you can't be too careful in verifying what they have for sale. In a perfect world, it shouldn't be necessary but eBay is far from a perfect world.

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  • BoomBoom Posts: 10,165 ✭
    Having NOT read the entire thread - only your opening post, my response would be to ...

    1) contact the seller and notify him/ her that you are not pleased because the items are not as outlined.

    2) go to PayPal and or eBay and let them know exactly what has happened & that what you received is not as described in the listing description.

    Good Luck!
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  • 57loaded57loaded Posts: 4,967 ✭✭✭
    i had a similar situation a few years back....instead of 40% about 1/2 were clad.

    i had paid with paypal and then resolved it with a complaint that reversed the paypal payment.

    the explanation was so fricking lame.

    i would just be sure you "pay for what you get"
  • BochimanBochiman Posts: 25,378 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>The question is: Are they all dated 1964 >>




    Blurry photo, or NO photo, with a title that says "90% silver", why would a potential buyer need to ask if they are all 1964's? Was there another year of the Kennedy that is 90%? If a seller had an item listed with the title of "Purple Plush Dino", I wouldnt expect ANYONE to have to ask what color it was. Get it? >>




    Uh no. You are restating my point. It is a simple question, tests the sellers reliability. It takes 5 seconds to ask the question. If you want to take a chance on that photo, no questions asked and pay $177 for $15 in coin or $1770 for $150 in coin or $17,700 for $1,500 and then go thru all the grief of getting your money back, go for it. We are not talking about 30 Mercury dimes. If I see that ad and I know that one year Kennedy Half Dollars were silver, six years they were 40% silver and since then they are zinc, I am going to ask the question. Why are we arguing about this? >>





    Ahh, ok...its all clear now. So YOU are that pesky ebay bidder who asks me all those stupid and annoying questions that are answered right in the TITLE of my posted items. Message received.image >>




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    Though, I was thinking the same thing as Gecko image

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  • garrynotgarrynot Posts: 1,874 ✭✭✭

    I am really sorry I wasted everyone's time and became the butt of a joke by suggesting you ask a seller a simple question. I will leave you all to your own devices and stay out of this forum.
  • NitroCruiserNitroCruiser Posts: 654
    I'll play devils advocate here and remind everyone that there are 90% Kennedy half's that are not 1964's... for instance from the 1992 to present proof sets. Folk's do break these open for sets/grading and could potentially sell off culled examples that don't make the grade. Of course the listing didn't mention "Proofs" and the photo sucked. With persons of all levels of knowledge selling whatever on the bay, it is appropriate to ask questions when the photo is so poor (date and mint marks in this case). I can also see how these could easily be assumed to be 64's.

    I hate to say it but I believe the seller was being deliberately deceptive, perhaps assuming some un-knowledgeable buyer would win. They did not mention the date in the description (which would additionally verify their 90% silver claim, no testing needed) and the blurry picture. Why show 15 of the 30? Why not a good picture of just one coin, and say this is what you'll be getting X 30? IMO it pretty lame pleading ignorance as to the content of silver in US coins when one is the seller. It's just not that difficult of information to find out. They were computer literate enough to use eBay. Report to Papal item not as described, and get a refund. Jist my two cents.
  • JustaRookieJustaRookie Posts: 566 ✭
    Bad deal for sure. Hope everything works out.
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  • keepdachangekeepdachange Posts: 1,374
    So I took a refund of $115.00 and kept the 40%'s. After emailing back and forth I believe the seller knew what they were up to and just got caught. Too much of a pain in the image to pack them up and ship em back so I'm fine with getting them under melt. Next time I'll know better and ask what the dates are imageimage
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  • gsa1fangsa1fan Posts: 5,566 ✭✭✭
    So you answered the ? they were not 1964's!image

    I'm gonna miss this thread! Glad you got it settled OPimage
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  • jimq112jimq112 Posts: 3,511 ✭✭✭
    I'm glad to see it worked out and you didn't "lose" money on the deal. I hope you leave positive feedback but that you mention the deception. If it was intentional, you might help keep somebody else from getting cheated.

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  • NitroCruiserNitroCruiser Posts: 654
    Yep, glad it worked out to your satisfaction.
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