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Baxter told me to have a Christmas Eve blowout.....SALE'S OFF SORRY FOR EVERYTHING

Anything I have currently for sale on the board, take 15% off. If you pay by paypal gift, check, or money order, take 20% off. Anything. This includes all raw cards, the graded stars, and the remaining 74's I have.

There is only one catch: you must spend at least $100 to get the discount! This offer is good today (12-24) and tomorrow, Christmas Day. Thanks and Merry Christmas from Santa Burgundy!
Ron Burgundy

Buying Vintage, all sports.
Buying Woody Hayes, Les Horvath, Vic Janowicz, and Jesse Owens autographed items
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  • julen23julen23 Posts: 4,558 ✭✭
    get me off these boards....

    pm sent
    image
    RIP GURU
  • cincyredlegscincyredlegs Posts: 2,032 ✭✭✭
    Ron - PM sent.
    Project:

    T206 Set - 300/524
  • drewsefdrewsef Posts: 1,894 ✭✭
    and you needed another thread to say this why?
  • PM sent.
  • PM X 2 sent. Sorry for all the annoying notes Ron.
  • PM sent.
  • BobSBobS Posts: 1,738 ✭✭
    Santa B -

    How bout putting links to your threads in this thread. I'm lazy.
  • swartz1swartz1 Posts: 4,911 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Santa B -

    How bout putting links to your threads in this thread. I'm lazy. >>



    yep yep


    Looking for 1970 MLB Photostamps
    - uncut


    Positive Transactions - tennesseebanker, Ahmanfan, Donruss, Colebear, CDsNuts, rbdjr1, Downtown1974, yankeeno7, drewsef, mnolan, mrbud60, msassin, RipublicaninMass, AkbarClone, rustywilly, lsutigers1973, julen23 and nam812, plus many others...
  • I think his previous post w/ the scans, poppage, etc. has gone poof. I've looked and looked for it...
  • daddymcdaddymc Posts: 3,080 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I think his previous post w/ the scans, poppage, etc. has gone poof. I've looked and looked for it... >>



    You're right. It was near the top on the page a couple hours ago.
    Currently working on: Kurt Warner PSA 9 or 10

  • 1966CUDA1966CUDA Posts: 2,014 ✭✭✭✭
    Ron- Hook us up...can't find any links!!
  • RonBurgundyRonBurgundy Posts: 5,491 ✭✭✭
    So one of my two active posts goes poof mysteriously. This is sad. No doubt the result of some inveterate, jealous complainer determined to make trouble.

    Last year on this board I gave away cards. This year I wanted to do a nice discount for what I had up for sale. I made it a new post because I figured those interested could just go find the other posts. I also thought if I bumped the other two posts I'd take up two spots on page one instead of just one.

    I'm baffled here. I try to sell good cards at decent prices. I don't list one card for sale in one post and turn around and list another in a separate post. I have never pimped any of my Ebay auctions here. Not once. I'm not perfect, but my transaction record speaks for itself. I've made many friends in dealing with folks and have changed opinions of those I was not so sure about along the way.

    For this, apparently, I get attacked. I have no idea where my raw vintage post went. My guess is someone complained and it went poof. No warning, no heads up, it just went away. Sad.
    Draw your own conclusions and opinions about this, in my opinion it speaks for itself.

    Since I can't quickly resurrect it, I'll make it a New Year's Day sale next week if the board members wish.

    Merry Christmas to one and all.


    Ron
    Ron Burgundy

    Buying Vintage, all sports.
    Buying Woody Hayes, Les Horvath, Vic Janowicz, and Jesse Owens autographed items
  • Sorry Ron that sounds terrible. It's like they are taking money out of your pocket if know one has access to the cards you are offering a nice discount too. Not fair.
  • It is really pitiful that some people here don't have anything else to do other than complain... just check this thread above and you'll see. Everyone complains about eBay fees, etc., etc. and then some of us come on here to buy, sell, trade and others ruin it. This is WAY better than eBay as I see it and unless someone lists 10-15 cards in separate threads I don't see a problem. I definitely don't see a problem with what Burgundy did, but obviously others do. I usually don't call people out on these boards and normally haven't needed to but tonight on Dec. 24 it has changed. Some of you need to quit being cry babies. I never liked the Chiefs anywayimage
  • RonBurgundyRonBurgundy Posts: 5,491 ✭✭✭
    Thanks, I appreciate that. I'd also like to add that I'm not bigger than these boards. I want to abide by the rules, whatever they may be on any given day. But for the sake of fairness, send me a freaking message and tell me what you want and at least give me a chance to fix it, rather than ipso facto just wiping it away with no warning.

    I'm just disappointed because the intent was to do something nice for folks here in the holiday spirit. It wasn't about making money, it was appreciation for all the good people here. Sad that on the eve of Christmas, it got turned around.
    Ron Burgundy

    Buying Vintage, all sports.
    Buying Woody Hayes, Les Horvath, Vic Janowicz, and Jesse Owens autographed items
  • SOMSOM Posts: 1,555 ✭✭✭
    Yeah...and they took down our Tiger Woods joke, too. All because I added the cartoon to it?

    Ah, heck. Merry Christmas to everyone...even the complainers.

    image
  • daddymcdaddymc Posts: 3,080 ✭✭✭
    Not sure why your thread went poof when Bubbleboy has three BST threads babbling about 1978 Topps.
    Currently working on: Kurt Warner PSA 9 or 10

  • Ron - I have always enjoyed your posts. They are always entertaining and the prices you offer seem very, very fair. You clearly put a lot of time and effort into your sale threads. I have never purchased anything from you only because my collection is pretty narrowly focused. This really seems to be a case of a couple of people complaining and ruining things for others. Please keep up the good work. Perhaps the few unsatisfied people will move onto something else. Regards, Kevin
  • DavidPuddyDavidPuddy Posts: 3,488 ✭✭✭
    Ron, I think Baxter may be sabotaging your threads. Is your CU password in Spanish?
    Bad Baxter.
    "The Sipe market is ridiculous right now"
    CDsNuts, 1/9/15
  • drewsefdrewsef Posts: 1,894 ✭✭
    Sorry to let anyone down, I had nothing to do with any of Burgundy's threads getting moved, removed, or anything of the sort.

    Feel free to ask SportsModerator or whoever the moderator is, I never contacted anyone in any manner complaining about Burgundy.

    As far as leadoff, he's just whining because I sent him a message months ago because he had 4 or more threads on the B,S,T forum running at once. Here's exactly the one message I have ever sent him:

    Hi,

    Would you mind combining your sale threads into one thread in the future so other buyers and sellers have a chance to sell or post wanted threads without being pushed to the bottom.

    Thanks,

    Drew


    And leadoff, I'm an Derrick Thomas fan, you missed on the Chiefs comment also. I would give a B+ for effort though. So I guess I was seriously out of line with my message huh?


    So, if everyone feels it cool if certain members like Burgundy get to post they are having a sale instead of just putting their cards or memorabilia in one thread and edit the title to update their new sale and bump it, then please provide a list of who can put multiple posts on the B,S,T and who can't.

    RB, it was never a takedown on your giving away cards or anything like that, I do the same, although admittedly not as public as you do. I also have had absolutely zero problems with any buyers of my cards, here or otherwise, and ask anyone who thinks I'm wrong here to feel free to speak up. Your a fine guy, I made a wise crack at all the hyping and previews you have, which are annoying to me.
  • Since you have two messages in the BST, after one or more was deleted, and the rule is one thread.....it is really hard to feel sorry for you.
    Collecting PSA graded Steve Young, Marcus Allen, Bret Saberhagen and 1980s Topps Cards.
    Raw: Tony Gonzalez (low #'d cards, and especially 1/1's) and Steve Young.


  • << <i>Since you have two messages in the BST, after one or more was deleted, and the rule is one thread.....it is really hard to feel sorry for you. >>




    Agree. Maybe the OP feels he is just very special though and has a right to intentionally disregard the rules that he apparently knows.
  • RonBurgundyRonBurgundy Posts: 5,491 ✭✭✭
    Although I think it's more the result of complaining - in fact, we have some indication that it's exactly that - I have no problem abiding by the "one thread" rule as long as it's applied evenly and consistently to others.

    It's not. As of the time I'm posting this there are at least two multiple posts on this page and the vintage page. But apparently no complaints about those so they stay up. A wonderful indication that whatever bully shouts the loudest gets his way.
    Ron Burgundy

    Buying Vintage, all sports.
    Buying Woody Hayes, Les Horvath, Vic Janowicz, and Jesse Owens autographed items
  • RonBurgundyRonBurgundy Posts: 5,491 ✭✭✭
    Sale's off, guys. After carefully considering everything, I feel it's more important that we be sensitive to everyone's feelings rather than offer up cards for sale. Yes, I broke the rules. I'm sorry. I'd like to apologize to the board, any individual poster who was offended, and all natives of Switzerland. Merry Christmas!

    Ron Burgundy

    Buying Vintage, all sports.
    Buying Woody Hayes, Les Horvath, Vic Janowicz, and Jesse Owens autographed items
  • DavidPuddyDavidPuddy Posts: 3,488 ✭✭✭
    Ron Burgundy ruined Christmas. Thanks a lot Ron.
    "The Sipe market is ridiculous right now"
    CDsNuts, 1/9/15
  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    I have a question, suppose a person creates a thread say 4 weeks ago. He then creates a whole different thread last week.

    Then last night he/she decides to create a third one. All the threads are different, one is to buy, one is to sell, another to trade.

    Someone comes along and bumps the other two and now the person has 3 threads on the first page has that person done anything wrong?




    Steve
    Good for you.
  • swartz1swartz1 Posts: 4,911 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Sale's off, guys. After carefully considering everything, I feel it's more important that we be sensitive to everyone's feelings rather than offer up cards for sale. Yes, I broke the rules. I'm sorry. I'd like to apologize to the board, any individual poster who was offended, and all natives of Switzerland. Merry Christmas! >>



    When you say "we" do you mean you and Baxter?


    Looking for 1970 MLB Photostamps
    - uncut


    Positive Transactions - tennesseebanker, Ahmanfan, Donruss, Colebear, CDsNuts, rbdjr1, Downtown1974, yankeeno7, drewsef, mnolan, mrbud60, msassin, RipublicaninMass, AkbarClone, rustywilly, lsutigers1973, julen23 and nam812, plus many others...


  • << <i>I have a question, suppose a person creates a thread say 4 weeks ago. He then creates a whole different thread last week.

    Then last night he/she decides to create a third one. All the threads are different, one is to buy, one is to sell, another to trade.

    Someone comes along and bumps the other two and now the person has 3 threads on the first page has that person done anything wrong?




    Steve >>




    Per the rules of the BST forum, all your threads should be combined into a single thread. Then that thread may be edited as needed to reflect new offers (buying or selling). Its a very simple rule and Burgandy is correct in that many people DO break the rules. In the regular forums, if you dont like the subject of a particular thread, or you feel it is OT, you can simply ignore it. However, in the BST, you are creating an unfair environment by listing multiple threads, or by bumping your own thread more than once per day. How BBG responded to her own BST thread 12 times in a single day without it getting poofed just goes to show that SportsMod has a life outside these forums! In summary, there can be more tolerance and wiggle room in the regular forums, but everyone should adhere to the BST rules without exception.
  • RonBurgundyRonBurgundy Posts: 5,491 ✭✭✭
    Baxter started all this and there will be consequences. I do not believe in cruelty to animals but I will admonish him with a stern warning.
    Ron Burgundy

    Buying Vintage, all sports.
    Buying Woody Hayes, Les Horvath, Vic Janowicz, and Jesse Owens autographed items
  • itzagoneritzagoner Posts: 8,753 ✭✭
    well, i hope whoever got their witch [insert dubious eyeroll here]......don't certain folks have better things to do with themselves then play BST Policeman?

    sheesh.....this is the most informal and centralized method of allowing our members to share their wares and some petty jealousy has just got to get in the way, especially at Christmastime.....nice job making an example out of someone who deserves it the LEAST.....if you don't wanna deal w/Burgundy then just STFU and move on, but get over yourself whoever you are.

    and Merry Christmas to you RonBurgundy, you insensitive dolt! image

    in all seriousness, i truly thank you for the excellent transactions we've been able to complete this year and i hope next year will bear out more good opportunities.....you're one of the good ones here. don't change a thing.



  • << <i>well, i hope whoever got their witch [insert dubious eyeroll here]......don't certain folks have better things to do with themselves then play BST Policeman?

    sheesh.....this is the most informal and centralized method of allowing our members to share their wares and some petty jealousy has just got to get in the way, especially at Christmastime.....nice job making an example out of someone who deserves it the LEAST.....if you don't wanna deal w/Burgundy then just STFU and move on, but get over yourself whoever you are.

    and Merry Christmas to you RonBurgundy, you insensitive dolt! image

    in all seriousness, i truly thank you for the excellent transactions we've been able to complete this year and i hope next year will bear out more good opportunities.....you're one of the good ones here. don't change a thing. >>




    I would not assume someone told. Ron is typically in violation of that rule. If you continue to break a rule....they will catch you sometime.
    Collecting PSA graded Steve Young, Marcus Allen, Bret Saberhagen and 1980s Topps Cards.
    Raw: Tony Gonzalez (low #'d cards, and especially 1/1's) and Steve Young.
  • itzagoneritzagoner Posts: 8,753 ✭✭
    on that point we should agree, however the policy of enforcement seems rather selective.

    please explain how this is fair. i'm gonna go have a lollipop.
  • If you read Ron's thread before it was deleted, drewsef wrote a comment like "do you need another tread to do this" or something of the sort. You can find it on other threads he wrote this on as well. So, no matter if he "snitched" or not, he obviously made it a point to be the big "5-0"/BST board policeman more than once. It is what it is, I guess... and Drew I may have missed on the Chiefs comment(as you see it) but I was dead on the crying part. Remember, there's no crying in baseball or on the CU BST board!
  • Jeff(itzagoner), I couldn't have said it any better!!
  • baseballfanbaseballfan Posts: 5,473 ✭✭✭
    that is ridiculous. why don't people just worry about themselves?????


    merry christmas Ron, i hope the sale goes on, it was a very nice gesture

    don't let them beat you down!!!
    Fred

    collecting RAW Topps baseball cards 1952 Highs to 1972. looking for collector grade (somewhere between psa 4-7 condition). let me know what you have, I'll take it, I want to finish sets, I must have something you can use for trade.

    looking for Topps 71-72 hi's-62-53-54-55-59, I have these sets started



  • << <i>on that point we should agree, however the policy of enforcement seems rather selective.

    please explain how this is fair. i'm gonna go have a lollipop. >>




    I don't see why I would need to explain anything like that. This is pretty simply, if you have a problem with it, and think the rules do not apply to Ron, e-mail the moderator. Otherwise, all I see in this thread in Ron whining he got caught breaking the rules and a few posters that think Ron should be able to break the rules. Yes, there is always someone who is breaking the rules....but I hardly see that as justification for our own actions.



    Collecting PSA graded Steve Young, Marcus Allen, Bret Saberhagen and 1980s Topps Cards.
    Raw: Tony Gonzalez (low #'d cards, and especially 1/1's) and Steve Young.
  • itzagoneritzagoner Posts: 8,753 ✭✭
    i'll guess the word "informal" should contain a broader context.......ya know, there's a corner near my house, and because we are a residential community, some folks got together and btiched and moaned enough that the local lawmakers created a rule and posted a sign: Hey fools! You can't make a right turn at THIS corner between 7am and 9am, Monday thru Friday.....ok, the sign doesn't really say Hey Fools! image

    occasionally, i can drive by this corner and see a couple of motorcycle policeman casually writing tickets and waving people over to the side and just lining 'em up, you ignore that sign, we write you up.

    except........some cars make that turn and just drive right on by.....the cops look at them, but don't cite them for the infraction and they just drive on by.......drive on by.
  • Below are posts from board(or bored LOL) member Drewsef, you guys make a decision:

    do you just come on here to spam your website since this is not a direct link? You never seem to answer questions either.

    << I think they're hinting that posting it here on this forum as an ad in disguise is in poor taste. >>
    That is putting it lightly.
    Monday December 07, 2009 10:56 PM
    please read the top thread about multiple posts again
    Monday November 09, 2009 4:02 PM
    how do you sell on ebay if you don't take paypal?
    Please Read-this was a link he posted to the moderator's comments about multiple posts on the BST board
    Monday September 21, 2009 4:58 PM
    why don't you use a direct link instead of the tinyurl crap?
    Thursday August 20, 2009 3:06 PM
    the correct way would be if you want to BUY, SELL, or TRADE, put it in that forum, and use one message post instead of a separate thread for each thing you want to buy.





  • nam812nam812 Posts: 10,602 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>.......How BBG responded to her own BST thread 12 times in a single day without it getting poofed..... >>



    Agreed that bubblebathgirl's thread should go poof (but for different reasons).

    In my opinion bumping your thread and responding to your thread are two different things. As far as responding to your own BST thread more than once in the same day, if someone is talking to you in the thread instead of PMing you (maybe specifics about the item you're selling), I have no problem with the OP responding to the concerns inside the thread this way all interested parties can see the specifics.


  • << <i>i'll guess the word "informal" should contain a broader context.......ya know, there's a corner near my house, and because we are a residential community, some folks got together and btiched and moaned enough that the local lawmakers created a rule and posted a sign: Hey fools! You can't make a right turn at THIS corner between 7am and 9am, Monday thru Friday.....ok, the sign doesn't really say Hey Fools! image

    occasionally, i can drive by this corner and see a couple of motorcycle policeman casually writing tickets and waving people over to the side and just lining 'em up, you ignore that sign, we write you up.

    except........some cars make that turn and just drive right on by.....the cops look at them, but don't cite them for the infraction and they just drive on by.......drive on by. >>








    Huge difference there. If a car turns right on red illegally, and doesnt get stopped, I am out nothing. It didnt affect me at all. However, if a board member clogs the BST with multiple threads, it pushes any thread I had to the bottom. That means I may be out real money because of this. I dont have any current BST offerings, but if I did....and was abiding by the forum rules.....you better believe I'd be upset when Mr. Burgandy.....or anyone else....knocks my thread off the page WHILE disregarding the rules. Its a common courtesy. Why is that so hard for you to understand?
  • Sorry this happened to everyone.................................Merry Christmas to all!
  • Apparently the board hasnt gotten rid of all the whiners , crybabies and complainers yet .

    If seperate posts are created weeks apart , I see nothing wrong with starting new threads . If you
    start 3 or 4 , one after another on the same day , well then thats breaking the rules .
    A collector of all things Braves
    Always looking for Chipper Jones cards.
    Im a very focused collector of cards from 1909 - 2012...LOL


  • << <i>Sorry this happened to everyone.................................Merry Christmas to all! >>



    I agree with the Bama guy? I'm going back to bed.
  • Bigwilli, I totall agree with you. If someone makes a new thread for different cards 2-3 weeks apart there shouldn't be a problem... for several reasons which should be obvious to most.
  • itzagoneritzagoner Posts: 8,753 ✭✭


    << <i>Why is that so hard for you to understand? >>



    what is hard for me to understand is why there would be any contention regarding someone's thread being pushed to the bottom......the pages are numbered, so you can skip them and find older posts......the same players play here every day, but only certain players are subject to ENFORCEMENT......make the playing field even for EVERYONE!

    BTW, when you read the Classified Ads in the daily paper, do you only read the top?
  • Well im grad you agree .

    The thing i dont understand is why be so petty . Mr. Burgandy and Baxter have been excellent contributors
    to the BST board and is respected by all or at least most board members here .

    People shouldnt get their underwear in such a bunch over such a small issue as this

    A collector of all things Braves
    Always looking for Chipper Jones cards.
    Im a very focused collector of cards from 1909 - 2012...LOL
  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    <<<<<<<However, if a board member clogs the BST with multiple threads, it pushes any thread I had to the bottom>>>>>>


    With my question the board member did not clog the boards, someone else did. Possibly by spite.

    I know my scenario does not fit the situation here, but it is very possible that it could happen.

    Especially since we have only had a written policy in place for a few months, before that it was

    the honor system until a few dolts created 4 or 5 threads at a time. Yes that happened quite a few times

    generally by people who were new.


    One last point, if Drew says he did not tattle I am inclined to believe him, same goes for Mark.

    It was someone that is now in hiding and laughing at us.


    Just my 2 cents.


    Steve






    Good for you.
  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    Apparently the board hasnt gotten rid of all the whiners , crybabies and complainers yet .

    If seperate posts are created weeks apart , I see nothing wrong with starting new threads . If you
    start 3 or 4 , one after another on the same day , well then thats breaking the rules .







    Big Willi hit the nail squarely on the head.


    Steve
    Good for you.
  • drewsefdrewsef Posts: 1,894 ✭✭


    << <i>Below are posts from board(or bored LOL) member Drewsef, you guys make a decision:

    do you just come on here to spam your website since this is not a direct link? You never seem to answer questions either.

    << I think they're hinting that posting it here on this forum as an ad in disguise is in poor taste. >>
    That is putting it lightly.
    Monday December 07, 2009 10:56 PM
    please read the top thread about multiple posts again
    Monday November 09, 2009 4:02 PM
    how do you sell on ebay if you don't take paypal?
    Please Read-this was a link he posted to the moderator's comments about multiple posts on the BST board
    Monday September 21, 2009 4:58 PM
    why don't you use a direct link instead of the tinyurl crap?
    Thursday August 20, 2009 3:06 PM
    the correct way would be if you want to BUY, SELL, or TRADE, put it in that forum, and use one message post instead of a separate thread for each thing you want to buy. >>




    And I'm the one who is bored, lol. Great detective work with the search function, most of those are for one member here who contributes nothing, posts one of the tinyurl link to his website claiming it's taking you to his ebay auctions, and then fails to ever show back up like clockwork. You failed to also find or post here that several other members here have done the same exact thing to that poster and so many more people who abuse the rules here. Your whole lone ranger board policeman accusation is a complete farce and a typical copout, pardon the pun, to act like I'm actually the one in the wrong, so where actually am I?

    You also failed to put the response by the OP of the quote of mine where I stated, "how do you sell on ebay if you don't take paypal" I must have been being negative for the boards again then also for wondering why someone who had cards to sell who was backing up what they were selling with their ebay selling record but yet somehow also claimed they didn't have paypal.

    It's funny that some people have taken one wise crack remark out of all the times RonBurgundy has knowingly disregarded others posts on B,S,T (why don't you pull all of those up detective leadoff) and ran with it like this.

    One simple reply by RB saying something like, yeah, I will do it next time just wanted to sell alot and offer a big discount for Christmas would have been more than enough, no one would have blinked an eye. Some here can try to make into anything they want, but I really don't have a problem with RB at all. He seems to have some really nice card lots(I don't do baseball but have bought a football card or two from him in the past) but have some courtesy for others buy or want posts.


  • << <i><<<<<<<However, if a board member clogs the BST with multiple threads, it pushes any thread I had to the bottom>>>>>>


    With my question the board member did not clog the boards, someone else did. Possibly by spite.

    I know my scenario does not fit the situation here, but it is very possible that it could happen.

    Especially since we have only had a written policy in place for a few months, before that it was

    the honor system until a few dolts created 4 or 5 threads at a time. Yes that happened quite a few times

    generally by people who were new.


    One last point, if Drew says he did not tattle I am inclined to believe him, same goes for Mark.

    It was someone that is now in hiding and laughing at us.


    Just my 2 cents.


    Steve >>




    Just in case anyone cares, I did not tattle, and please people, lets not try to get personal or childish. (Not referring to you Steve). Now, if any trusted member wants I will give them my CU password and they can see I have never messaged the moderator. I am also unsure that anyone ratted, as Ron usually is in violation of this rule. He usually has a regular sale posting, a special Saturday sale posting and if that time a year, a special show posting. Now its all good and I think Ron offers great cards. But if you steal from the cookie jar enough, you will get caught. Usually when a person is caught, they don't whine about it, they apologize and move on. In fact, Ron complaining about the deleted thread is grounds for being kicked off just about every other board I am part of.

    "I know my scenario does not fit the situation here, but it is very possible that it could happen."

    I did not think it fit this situation either, as the OP's message pretty much forced the other threads up. But I don't think anyone would see what you have described as a "problem." All of us have posted more then one thread during our time here.

    It comes down to courtesy in my opinion. Multiple postings on the front page is the same as Spam. I don't know of a single forum that does not have this rule. In fact, a couple of the forums I am part of, only allow you one Ad a week.

    Clear Skies,
    Mark


    Collecting PSA graded Steve Young, Marcus Allen, Bret Saberhagen and 1980s Topps Cards.
    Raw: Tony Gonzalez (low #'d cards, and especially 1/1's) and Steve Young.
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