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  • I'm still trying to finish out the 2009 set and need 11 sp's.

    If anyone can help out, I'd greatly appreciate it. Unfortunately, I don't have much to offer in trade but am willing to buy.

    428,439,451,452,456,459,460,479,494,499,500

    Thanks,

    Tim
  • alma1960alma1960 Posts: 151 ✭✭
    Finished up my case tonight. Will start sorting and will post a trade/want list tomorrow. Overall a decent case but no super big pulls.
    Box #11 yield a Gene Leek Autograph
    Box #12 had chromes of Ichiro, Jeter, Lincecum, and Mauer along with a Sizemore refractor.. not bad.

    Stamp cards = 0 for the case, odds 1:193

    Black Refractors = 2

    Dice Cards = 4

    As I mentioned earlier, best relic was a Tiger stadium seat featuring Al Kaline.

    Not sure what everyone else averaged on the '61 SP chase cards of Ruth, Mantle and Maris, odds were 1:435. Pulled a Ruth in Box 10 and a Mantle in Box 12. I'm going to track down a Maris, but I'm not pursuing the SSPs this year.

    I'm missing more SPs than I thought... also have more SP dups than I would have guessed. Looking forward to making some trades for Chromes, Refs, and SPs. - Mark
    Collect HOF on card autographs -PSA graded

    Topps Heritage 2001-Now

    Topps Heritage Blue Autos (2016-2022)
  • Let me know when you get sorted Mark, as of right now I have an extra Maris.
  • alma1960alma1960 Posts: 151 ✭✭
    Will do. I'll PM you when I get my list finished to see if I have anything you still need. thanks.
    Collect HOF on card autographs -PSA graded

    Topps Heritage 2001-Now

    Topps Heritage Blue Autos (2016-2022)


  • << <i>
    Not sure what everyone else averaged on the '61 SP chase cards of Ruth, Mantle and Maris, odds were 1:435. Pulled a Ruth in Box 10 and a Mantle in Box 12. I'm going to track down a Maris, but I'm not pursuing the SSPs this year. >>



    Are the Chase '61 cards the blue Ruth set of 15 in hobby, red Maris set at Wal-Mart and who knows what color Mantles at Target or variations 56, 60 & 61?



    << <i>what state are you in that had Wal-Mart stuff? >>



    Southeastern NC. Went to two Wal-Marts in one town, no Heritage but the Target had the eight rack packs. Thirty some miles to the next town no Heritage at the Target, but Wal-Mart had them. Target racks shipped from Iowa for what it's worth
  • KnopflerKnopfler Posts: 783 ✭✭✭
    Finally got time to open my last case. Not too shabby. Here are the highlights:

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    and last but not least...

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  • WaltWalt Posts: 1,275 ✭✭✭
    Its good to see some of the long time heritage guys pull nice cards. Congrats Chris!
  • heritageheritage Posts: 2,662 ✭✭✭
    Chris nice case. there are some nice pulls in that case.
  • Josephcb09Josephcb09 Posts: 286 ✭✭
    Updated want list:

    SPs: 429, 446, 484, 493

    Autos: Posey red/blue, Posey Marichal Dual /25
    Chrome refractors or Black: Posey, Bumgarner

    All color variations except Mauer


    What I have to trade:

    SPs: 427, 437(2), 442, 448, 454, 462, 465, 469, 471, 472, 474, 476, 481, 482, 483, 486, 494

    NAP: 3, 12(2), 15(2)

    TN: 1,2(2), 5, 6(2), 7

    BF: 1(2), 3(3), 4, 5(4), 6(2), 8

    NF: 1(4), 4, 5(2), 7, 8(2), 9(2)

    Babe Chase: 4, 5, 6, 9, 13, 14

    Chrome: 16, 22, 28, 29, 38, 40, 46, 56(2), 59, 72, 92

    Chrome Ref: 10, 24, 46, 56, 73, 82, 93

    Dice Back: Sizemore

    Stamp: Pelfrey/Richardson

    Clubhouse Collection: Berkman, Kuo, Ethier, Bulger, Ludwick, Crede, Francis(2)
  • TNP777TNP777 Posts: 5,710 ✭✭✭
    Joe, you gotta lotta nerve posting a trade list before I crack my retail case! image
  • alma1960alma1960 Posts: 151 ✭✭


    << <i>

    Are the Chase '61 cards the blue Ruth set of 15 in hobby, red Maris set at Wal-Mart and who knows what color Mantles at Target or variations 56, 60 & 61?



    << <i>what state are you in that had Wal-Mart stuff? >>



    Southeastern NC. Went to two Wal-Marts in one town, no Heritage but the Target had the eight rack packs. Thirty some miles to the next town no Heritage at the Target, but Wal-Mart had them. Target racks shipped from Iowa for what it's worth >>




    Variations 56, 60, & 61 are the cards I was referring to. I believe these are the cards with 1:435 odds. I'm in SC, haven't seen any blaster boxes at Walmart or Target yet.
    Collect HOF on card autographs -PSA graded

    Topps Heritage 2001-Now

    Topps Heritage Blue Autos (2016-2022)
  • ssdawg77ssdawg77 Posts: 1,194 ✭✭✭✭✭
    My updated list:

    NEEDS:
    BASE: 4,12,14,37,38,59,73,89,91,111,140,171,180,184,186,214,215,243
    266,267,268,321,322,324,335,338,351,359,360,364,399,401,405
    CHROME: 39
    DICE BACK: DICE-K, JETER
    CHASE: #60 RUTH
    SP’S: 426,427,428x2,429,430x2,432,433x2,435,437,438,440,441,443,445,
    446,447,448,450,452,453,454,455,456,457,459,461,462,463,464,466,467,
    468,470,472,473,474,477,478,479x2,480,482,484,485,486x2,490,491,492,
    493,494x2,496,497,498,500
    NAP: 2

    AVAILABLE:
    CHROME: 2,5,8,9(2),11,14X2,15,17,28,30,40,61,65,70,78,80,81,88,89,93,100
    REFRACTORS: 8,12,19,20,30,42,45,47,50,54,63, 67,68,69,70,72,80,82,90,91,97,99X2
    SP’S: 436
    BF: 1x4,2,3x2,4x3,6,7,8x3,9,10x2
    NAP: 5x2
    TN: 1x2,4,6,8x2,10
    NF: 2x2,5x2,6,7,8,9,10
    ’61: 1x3,2x2,4x2,5x2,6,7x4,9x2,10,11,12
    STAMPS: GUILLEN/HARDEN
    CC:Millwoodx2,Howard,Ethier,Berkman,Marmol,Bulger,Baldelli,Guzman,Sabathia,
    Wood,Navarro
    Seat: Piersall
    Dual: Mantle/Teixeira

  • Josephcb09Josephcb09 Posts: 286 ✭✭
    Sorry Geordie.....

    Hopefully your case shows up soon, I want to trade for the Marichal/Posey dual you are going to pull.


  • << <i>Joe, you gotta lotta nerve posting a trade list before I crack my retail case! image >>



    What price are you guys paying for a retail case?
  • zep33zep33 Posts: 6,897 ✭✭✭
    Best buyback I've ever pulled:

    image
  • the next best would be the Mantle
  • That is a pretty cool buyback Mike, I've never pulled anything but scrubs.
  • Mick65Mick65 Posts: 722 ✭✭✭
    Yeah that is an awesome buyback!

    I didn't think Topps bought back anything good, they have the million card give away....which only proves that Topps made a million commons..............
  • alma1960alma1960 Posts: 151 ✭✭
    My Want/Trade List: UPDATED 3/11

    NEEDS:
    CHROME: 3 4 5 8 9 12 14 17 21 23 25 26 27 28 30 31 32 33 34 36 37 39 45 51
    54 57 59 60 66 69 73 74 75 76 77 82 83 88 91 92 96

    SP’S: 426 445 456 463(Braves) 468 478
    CHROME REFRACTORS: 1 2 3 4 6 7 8 9 10 12 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24
    27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50
    52 53 54 56 57 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75
    77 78 79 80 81 82 83 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 99 100
    CLUBHOUSE COLLECTION:
    AK Adam Kennedy
    AL Adam Lind
    AP Albert Pujols
    AR Aramis Ramirez
    BJ Bobby Jenks
    CB Clay Buchholz
    CG Cristian Guzman
    CH Cole Hamels
    CM Carlos Marmol
    CS CC Sabathia
    CZ Carlos Zambrano
    DH Dan Haren
    DN Dioner Navarro
    DO David Ortiz
    DU Dan Uggla
    EL Evan Longoria
    EV Edinson Volquez
    GB Gordon Beckham
    HK Hiroki Kuroda
    JB Jason Bulger
    JD Jermaine Dye
    JL James Loney
    JW Jered Weaver
    ME Mark Ellis
    MK Matt Kemp
    MT Miguel Tejada
    MY Michael Young
    NM Nate McLouth
    RB Rocco Baldelli
    RD Ryan Dempster
    RH Ryan Howard
    RL Ryan Ludwick
    RM Russell Martin
    AJP A.J. Pierzynski
    CHE Chase Headley
    JCR Joe Crede
    MTH Matt Thorman



    AVAILABLE:
    CHROME: C56: Matsuzaka
    BLACK REFRACTORS #'d to 61: C11 Carpenter, C75 Uehara
    SP’S: all gone
    Baseball Flashbacks: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 10
    NAP: 5 6 13
    TN: 1 2 3 4 6 8 9
    News Flashbacks: 1 2 4 5 6 7 8 10
    ’61: 2 full sets plus most singles
    Clubhouse Collection: Berkman
    Seat: Kaline

    Please PM me with any trade ideas, priority #1, finish base, #2 Chrome, #3 Refractors, #4 Clubhouse Collection. thanks, Mark
    Collect HOF on card autographs -PSA graded

    Topps Heritage 2001-Now

    Topps Heritage Blue Autos (2016-2022)
  • alma1960alma1960 Posts: 151 ✭✭
    Very nice pull on the Aaron buyback. Best Buyback I've ever seen out of Heritage. Congrats!!

    Anybody have the official Clubhouse Collection checklist?
    Collect HOF on card autographs -PSA graded

    Topps Heritage 2001-Now

    Topps Heritage Blue Autos (2016-2022)
  • alma1960alma1960 Posts: 151 ✭✭


    << <i>Decided to rip one tonight. Antoerh black and a mis-chromed refractor


    image


    edit - LMAO of my spelling of "another". Had to leave that one alone >>




    Anyone own a Max Scherzer chrome that is NOT mis-chromed? Mine looks just like this one.
    Collect HOF on card autographs -PSA graded

    Topps Heritage 2001-Now

    Topps Heritage Blue Autos (2016-2022)
  • ssdawg77ssdawg77 Posts: 1,194 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Here is the CC checklist

    AE Andre Ethier
    AK Adam Kennedy
    AL Adam Lind
    AP Albert Pujols
    AR Aramis Ramirez
    AW Adam Wainwright
    BJ Bobby Jenks
    BW Billy Wagner
    CB Clay Buchholz
    CG Cristian Guzman
    CH Cole Hamels
    CM Carlos Marmol
    CS CC Sabathia
    CZ Carlos Zambrano
    DH Dan Haren
    DN Dioner Navarro
    DO David Ortiz
    DU Dan Uggla
    EL Evan Longoria
    EV Edinson Volquez
    GB Gordon Beckham
    GS Grady Sizemore
    HK Hiroki Kuroda
    JB Jason Bulger
    JC Jose Contreras
    JD Jermaine Dye
    JF Jeff Francis
    JL James Loney
    JW Jered Weaver
    KJ Kenji Johjima
    KM Kendry Morales
    KW Kerry Wood
    LB Lance Berkman
    MB Mark Buehrle
    ME Mark Ellis
    MK Matt Kemp
    MT Miguel Tejada
    MY Michael Young
    NM Nate McLouth
    PK Paul Konerko
    PS Pablo Sandoval
    RB Rocco Baldelli
    RD Ryan Dempster
    RH Ryan Howard
    RL Ryan Ludwick
    RM Russell Martin
    VG Vladimir Guerrero
    AJP A.J. Pierzynski
    BWE Brandon Webb
    CHE Chase Headley
    HCK Hong-Chih Kuo
    JCR Joe Crede
    KMI Kevin Millwood
    MTH Matt Thorman
  • nam812nam812 Posts: 10,580 ✭✭✭✭✭
    My Scherzer is mis-chromed as well.
  • All three of the Scherzer chromes I have are that way.
  • Mick65Mick65 Posts: 722 ✭✭✭
    I bought three blasters from Target today, here was the distribution, nothing special.

    Short Prints 8
    NF 3
    BF 2
    T&N 0
    NAP 1
    Chrome 2


    Has anyone notice the "8 cards per pack" is just a ball park figure?? I have some packs with 10 others with 6. Wasn't sure if anyone had the same...............or it was just a bad batch.
  • kmnortonkmnorton Posts: 1,050 ✭✭✭
    Sweet buyback, Mike!

    BTW, you have my address for that Bumgarner, right?
    IWTDMBII
  • nam812nam812 Posts: 10,580 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I just checked, and my Scherzer refractor is off as well.
  • WaltWalt Posts: 1,275 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I bought three blasters from Target today, here was the distribution, nothing special.

    Short Prints 8
    NF 3
    BF 2
    T&N 0
    NAP 1
    Chrome 2


    Has anyone notice the "8 cards per pack" is just a ball park figure?? I have some packs with 10 others with 6. Wasn't sure if anyone had the same...............or it was just a bad batch. >>



    where are the Maris and Mantle exclusive cards???
  • alma1960alma1960 Posts: 151 ✭✭
    So the Target blasters didn't have any Maris or Mantle cards???
    I thought that was a given. Did the blasters include the Ruth cards?
    Collect HOF on card autographs -PSA graded

    Topps Heritage 2001-Now

    Topps Heritage Blue Autos (2016-2022)
  • WaltWalt Posts: 1,275 ✭✭✭
    so what is left as far as retail is this....24 count target boxes and single walmart blister packs. I know that each target will get one maybe two of the 24
    count boxes and each walmart might get 20 or so blister packs..thats it!

    If this is true, and the maris and mantle cards are only found in these, then that will make them very rare!

    has anyone seen walmart blasters yet? Can you all confirm that blasters this year are 12 packs 29.99 per?

    Thanks
  • The blaster cases I opened were generic and contained 8 packs with no price point on them.
  • WaltWalt Posts: 1,275 ✭✭✭
    hmmm, Craig just reported that there are 12 pack blaster boxes for 29.99...very interesting. What was the price point on those target blasters that
    someone here opened?
  • TNP777TNP777 Posts: 5,710 ✭✭✭
    I stopped by my local Target on the way home from work tonight - still no Heritage.
  • Is Heritage dead? If so, what killed it?

    Is it the economy?

    What Topps did to the product the last two years?

    Oversaturation due to the High Series the last two years?

  • My first ever black refractor. I got this for under $9 shipped.

    image
  • WaltWalt Posts: 1,275 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Is Heritage dead? If so, what killed it?

    Is it the economy?

    What Topps did to the product the last two years?

    Oversaturation due to the High Series the last two years? >>



    Dead...for topps, no way, for a lot of collectors, yes. Topps did their homework, they got us hooked. Much like bowman chrome, topps knows they can sell
    it no matter what. Heritage has been weak the past two years, but this years product was better than last. We can also say that another product that is
    in the same boat, Ginter, was much improved for 2009, so there is hope.

    I guess the real question we must ask, is....why was it better last year, or the year before or in 2003? I think comparing it to 2001 is silly, but what didn't you like
    about it?


    Perhaps the super SP's, added value yes, but only if you pull them, if you are a perfectionist and had to put this into your set, you are now spening MUCH more money
    on the set with the addition of these cards.

    Is it the ink? I actually thought very few collectors, at least here, really collected the auto, but it appears that many do now. I know it sucks BIG TIME to defy
    the odds and pull a scrub autograph. What is worse is that an entire case can yield NO INK at all. Collectors outside of heritage would laugh at that. I buy a
    lot of other products and won't touch anything with less than 2-3 autos per box.

    Is it the design? Not much topps can do there, but the small details are big for set builders.....anyone notice that topps basically quit on making the SP's in 2010
    look like the old cards?

    I would guess most have turned their backs on heritage because the fun is gone and that the value is lacking. The sad part of this is that topps isn't feeling their
    absence at all.

    So far I have had fun this year, I have gotten killed opening packs but I am hoping that retail gets me back into the game!
  • ArchStantonArchStanton Posts: 1,181 ✭✭✭
    Has anyone notice the "8 cards per pack" is just a ball park figure?? I have some packs with 10 others with 6.

    I got one pack with three cards. Three effen cards.
    Collector of 1976 Topps baseball for some stupid reason.
    Collector of Pittsburgh Pirates cards for a slightly less stupid reason.
    My Pirates Collection
  • I'll put the set together soon, but I'm going to do it the most economical way. The trading group here appears to be roughly a quarter of the size it was in 2006 and 2007, and quite frankly I'd get killed trying to put together the set though buying packs and blasters and expecting to trade here. I just don't open enough product (i.e. buying a case or multiple cases) to even match up with many of you guys.

    The 2008 set with the black/green variations was a bad move on Topps' part, as has been the high series. For the set collectors to shell out so much money to do this set and then have Topps come back and issue a high series six months later is just a terrible move IMHO. I remember in 2008 I busted my ass trying to put the 40-card Clubhouse Collection relic series together. I think I had 38 of them when I found out that the high series was going to include another 40 cards. Talk about ripping your heart out.

    I love the design and will collect it. I enjoy seeing everyone's pulls here. It just seems like, for some reason, a lot of collectors are gone.

  • I got in on the Heritage boat late and didn't start until the 2007 Heritage season (actually hadn't touched a card prior to that in probably 20 years), at the time 2006 boxes/cases were still readily available at a reasonable price. I was hooked from day one. 2008 and 2009 were a bit of a let down although the 2008 high #'s were filled with hits. This year has been a blast other than the few packs with missing cards the quality has been substantially better, not near the number of damaged cards and the centering is fantastic. As a matter of fact out of the 1,700 or so packs I've opened this year I only had one damaged card and that was from a blaster. I also think the auto check list is better this year than the last two. The black refractor prices have fallen the last couple of years, and this year without any short printed relics you lose a little value as well, but I for one think that Topps did a good job with this years set.
  • jmmiller777jmmiller777 Posts: 1,324 ✭✭✭
    Brian, I agree with you. Topps killed me with the high seies extension set. I was so close to putting together a master set, spending hundreds of dollars just to get the last cards. The auto selection is, and has been week. Compare those first couple of years with some of those great autos. Last year, no McCovey, and this year the rookies are missing again. Hate to bring it up again, but those refractors, chrome, and blacks ought to be something different than just a changed border and a different numbering system. Those blacks woul be great with an auto on them or maybe a different pose. I guess we are all in the same boat, spending hundreds, even thousands on completing these sets. I only collect three sets each year and I sink a ton of money in them. I don't like the extended series at all and I don't like Topps putting in the other card set (highlights)as a filler to try and get me to buy more.
    In any case, we are missing quite a few traders of previous years. I built two complete sets in 2007, there was a bunch of trading going on here. Even last year was pretty good.
    If I were to give advice to Topps it would be:
    1) Make those super SP's a little more available
    2) Focus on getting rookies of those years to sign (and more than 25 copies)
    3) Forget some of the inserts that are non baseball related
    4) Do something with the Chromes, etc
    5) Make those inserts of the year more available( 10 boxes, 15 Rack Packs, and numerous single packs=2 dice, 2 autos, 1 black, 0 SSP's, 0 stamps, 0 variations)

    I'll be here every year and we are really getting close to the years I love; 1963-1969, but this is more habit than fun , just like Walt indicated. I look forward to those rub-offs, gold and silver embossed, and the 1967 posters, but please Topps, don't dangle the carrot without letting me have a bite. You don't earn anything on cards that sell on the secondary market. Make more than 40, 50, or 68.
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    To be honest, no direction, but...
    1966-69 Topps EX+
    1975 minis NrMt Kelloggs PSA 9
    All Topps Heritage-Master Sets
    image


  • << <i>If this is true, and the maris and mantle cards are only found in these, then that will make them very rare!

    has anyone seen walmart blasters yet? Can you all confirm that blasters this year are 12 packs 29.99 per? >>



    Wal-Mart blaster I got was $19.99 and had eight packs in it. Also, they had a big box of Heritage packs - holds 50+ packs??.

    Got one Maris Chase '61 out of a blaster, 3 or 4 racks, and about 15 single packs but not sure what I got it out of, though I know it wasn't the racks.

    Can also say that not all racks have SPs. Some of the racks I got didn't even have inserts. Also, I couldn't see a difference in the color on the back of the racks enabling picking out racks with SPs, but can tell the MVPs because they have a different back.
  • whats a good price to pay for the SP team card/braves?
  • alnavmanalnavman Posts: 4,129 ✭✭✭
    what is the best pack to rip if you are only interested in putting the set together, with no interest in completing the auto and other insert sets???? Bought three rack packs yesterday and got 42 cards...at that rate I'll be filing for unemployment and every conceivable government incentive before I could complete a set.....
  • tillertiller Posts: 149 ✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Is Heritage dead? If so, what killed it?

    Is it the economy?

    What Topps did to the product the last two years?

    Oversaturation due to the High Series the last two years? >>



    Dead...for topps, no way, for a lot of collectors, yes. Topps did their homework, they got us hooked. Much like bowman chrome, topps knows they can sell
    it no matter what. Heritage has been weak the past two years, but this years product was better than last. We can also say that another product that is
    in the same boat, Ginter, was much improved for 2009, so there is hope.

    I guess the real question we must ask, is....why was it better last year, or the year before or in 2003? I think comparing it to 2001 is silly, but what didn't you like
    about it?


    Perhaps the super SP's, added value yes, but only if you pull them, if you are a perfectionist and had to put this into your set, you are now spening MUCH more money
    on the set with the addition of these cards.

    Is it the ink? I actually thought very few collectors, at least here, really collected the auto, but it appears that many do now. I know it sucks BIG TIME to defy
    the odds and pull a scrub autograph. What is worse is that an entire case can yield NO INK at all. Collectors outside of heritage would laugh at that. I buy a
    lot of other products and won't touch anything with less than 2-3 autos per box.

    Is it the design? Not much topps can do there, but the small details are big for set builders.....anyone notice that topps basically quit on making the SP's in 2010
    look like the old cards?

    I would guess most have turned their backs on heritage because the fun is gone and that the value is lacking. The sad part of this is that topps isn't feeling their
    absence at all.

    So far I have had fun this year, I have gotten killed opening packs but I am hoping that retail gets me back into the game! >>








    I like it! I THINK TOPPS IS TOPS!!!!
  • > what is the best pack to rip if you are only interested in putting the set together

    Buy the packs that are the cheapest per card.

    Hobby pack: 8 cards @ $4 = .50 per card.

    Hobby box: 192 cards @ $75 = .39 per card

    Retail pack: 8 cards @ $3 + 5% sales tax = .39 per card

    Retail rack: 14 cards @ $5 + 5% sales tax = .37 per card

    Retail blaster: 64 cards @ $20 + 5% sales tax = .33 per card


  • I noticed talk of 12 pack blasters. I found thishalf box I've never seen 12 pack (half boxes) for Heritage until this year.
  • jmmiller777jmmiller777 Posts: 1,324 ✭✭✭
    Wow, never have seen these. Think they will be at all retail locations and possibly replacing blasters in the future, test product? I would love to see the odds chart on them.
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  • zep33zep33 Posts: 6,897 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I noticed talk of 12 pack blasters. I found thishalf box I've never seen 12 pack (half boxes) for Heritage until this year. >>




    That looks like a typo - I think there are 2 rows of 12 packs in that box

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