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1952 Topps MANTLE Rookie PSA 3 - POOF!!!!
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The above listed card recently auctioned just disappeared!!! Anyone have any idea what happened???
Mantle Rookie
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<< <i>The above listed card recently auctioned just disappeared!!! Anyone have any idea what happened???
Mantle Rookie >>
It reminds me not to deal with the seller. No matter how trustworthy the seller is, I don't like sellers who cancel eBay auctions just because the price is too low or someone made a better offer. I believe that once a competing bid has been made, it should be honored. Otherwise, don't even bother selling.
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<< <i>The above listed card recently auctioned just disappeared!!! Anyone have any idea what happened???
Mantle Rookie >>
It reminds me not to deal with the seller. No matter how trustworthy the seller is, I don't like sellers who cancel eBay auctions just because the price is too low or someone made a better offer. I believe that once a competing bid has been made, it should be honored. Otherwise, don't even bother selling. >>
The listing is showing no bids were placed? Or am I missing something? If he didn't have any bids then is there harm in ending it early?
<< <i>The listing is showing no bids were placed? >>
All bids were cancelled.
<< <i>off ebay sale >>
Very likely. Received a good offer? Probably. And, of course, it's always nice to avoid having to pay eBay and Paypal fees, which according to this Calculator would be $148.96 and $246.80, respectively. (Wow! That's a lot in fees!)
/s/ JackWESQ
Plus, I think he had to sell it because he recently upgraded on this card.
Steve
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A month ago someone asked me to do just that, Offered 75.00 for a card. No bids had been placed yet
but 3 people were watching it. Instead of taking the money and running I let the auction go.
A valued customer of mine won it for 45.00. Had I ended it early and sold it that valued customer might not have won
the 11 cards last week from me. He might have said screw him (me)
A few months ago someone here created a thread and asked for advice on the best way to sell a specific card.
Of course he also linked the auction. (SPAM) I had plans on bidding on that card and it had at least 6 bids on it when
he ended it early, came here and boasted how much he sold it for. Since then he has listed a few cards I might have been
interested in, but since he night sell it from under me I pass his auctions by.
So yes I agree good for them, I'm happy that they made a sale.
Steve
<< <i>It says the auction was ended due to an error in the listing. He probably found out that the 1952 Topps isn't Mantle's rookie card and felt bad he promoted it as a rookie card. I'm sure it will be corrected and listed again soon so Ebay can collect the fees they worked so hard for. >>
I think I only ever ended one or two auctions early and it was because I really did have an error in the listing - There are only a few things you can choose for a "reason" - I don't think ebay really gives a chit that much - they still get their listing fees.
As for the guy ending his auction early...I'd be sure he doesn't give a chit either if he hurt any feelings over grabbing whatever money he grabbed for a '52 mantle - I don't know this seller but I mean cut him a break on this one - you're talking around 8 -11 large here.
/s/ JackWESQ
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<< <i>It says the auction was ended due to an error in the listing. He probably found out that the 1952 Topps isn't Mantle's rookie card and felt bad he promoted it as a rookie card. I'm sure it will be corrected and listed again soon so Ebay can collect the fees they worked so hard for. >>
I think I only ever ended one or two auctions early and it was because I really did have an error in the listing - There are only a few things you can choose for a "reason" - I don't think ebay really gives a chit that much - they still get their listing fees.
As for the guy ending his auction early...I'd be sure he doesn't give a chit either if he hurt any feelings over grabbing whatever money he grabbed for a '52 mantle - I don't know this seller but I mean cut him a break on this one - you're talking around 8 -11 large here. >>
The listing fees are "minimal" compared to the Final Value Vees.
Furthermore, if I were the high bidder, I would be greatly upset if someone pulled the rug from under me.
I am sure he did better then letting the auction run. The person must have given him an offer he could not refuse and he avoided the ebay and paypal fees.
I won't be bidding on any of his items ever.
No need to give him a break, I don't really care.
Steve
<< <i> I'm sure it will be corrected and listed again soon so Ebay can collect the fees they worked so hard for. >>
LMAO.
Suppose you were the high bidder, say at 8k and were willing to go to 10k.
You played by the rules, some schmoe comes in, emails the guy and gets it for 9k.
You still have no problem with that? Had the auction ran its course, you may have gotten it for 9,100.00 or
900.00 less then what you were willing to bid.
Stevek of course the guy does not give a chit, that goes without saying, if he did he would have allowed the auction to
run its course.
I wonder how many people had bids and snipes set?
Steve
Suppose the bidder was going out of town or cannot be near a computer when the auction ends. He was just trying to get a card he really wants. There have been a few times I was not going to be at computer when the auction I was bidding on was going to end. So I contacted the seller and made an great offer to end the auction early. This is a very nice card for the grade and as you can tell alot of interest.
Steve
while many don't like ending auctions early, sometimes with a card at this price you have to go with the sure thing if you have a deal. last thing a seller needs is a zero feedback bidder winning your 10K $$ 52' Mantle and not paying or causing problems with the delivery and a paypal scam
<< <i>while many don't like ending auctions early, sometimes with a card at this price you have to go with the sure thing if you have a deal. last thing a seller needs is a zero feedback bidder winning your 10K $$ 52' Mantle and not paying or causing problems with the delivery and a paypal scam >>
I disagree. If you don't want to play by the rules, don't come to eBay. There are a lot of "other venues" to sell your cards . I'm sure if it were any other auction site, they would be very annoyed if you tried to do such a thing to them.
Not fair to ebay, not fair to other bidders.
Now the buyer of this card has NO protection.
When he gets this card in hand and sees just how bad that spooned out crease is
he has no leverage in making a return.
Steve
<< <i>Basically what sellers like this do is they use ebay for its traffic then sell off it.
Not fair to ebay, not fair to other bidders.
Now the buyer of this card has NO protection.
When he gets this card in hand and sees just how bad that spooned out crease is
he has no leverage in making a return.
Steve >>
Steve, I think the guy that bought it was local here in Seattle and purchased/picked up in person. When I spoke with him, he had several interested parties here in Seattle (supposedly). Nevertheless, I can see why people get upset by this. And, I'm guessing most people don't know much about spooning creases. I know I didn't.
he should have let the auction run its course. I also at the same time agree
that the item belongs to the seller and he can do whatever he chooses with it
during the time it is up for auction. Ebay afterall does allow for sellers to end auctions early.
Some sellers even mention it in the description. Some say that this item is also for sale
in their store and could be sold before the auction ends.
I have no problem with him selling offline. My opinion is that I simply do not bid with sellers that
do this.
Steve
<< <i>Not fair to ebay >>
All the more reason to do it. With the way they've turned their backs on sellers, I'm all for sticking it to feebay!
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<< <i>Not fair to ebay >>
All the more reason to do it. With the way they've turned their backs on sellers, I'm all for sticking it to feebay! >>
Could you give some examples of how they turned their backs on sellers?
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<< <i>Not fair to ebay >>
All the more reason to do it. With the way they've turned their backs on sellers, I'm all for sticking it to feebay! >>
Could you give some examples of how they turned their backs on sellers? >>
Sellers not able to leave feedback.
The 18th time they raised their fees.
The rating system in general.
Seller items not coming up in search.
Need more?
Raw: Tony Gonzalez (low #'d cards, and especially 1/1's) and Steve Young.
<< <i>Could you give some examples of how they turned their backs on sellers? >>
Zero recourse against scum buyers. If you file a NPB, the bidder can have it removed with a simple phone call. On top of that, sellers can no longer leave negative feedback for those scum buyers. If the buyer pays and you send the advertised item in a timely manner, they can receive the item, file a SNAD claim and return a stack of commons. Paypal (owned by feebay) will then pull the money from your account and the scum buyer gets the product and their money back.
Don't even get me started on the fees.
If anyone truly wanted the card they would have used the BIN...
Seller probably could care less about bids / potential bidders / future bidders that will block his auctions...
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<< <i>Could you give some examples of how they turned their backs on sellers? >>
Zero recourse against scum buyers. If you file a NPB, the bidder can have it removed with a simple phone call. On top of that, sellers can no longer leave negative feedback for those scum buyers. If the buyer pays and you send the advertised item in a timely manner, they can receive the item, file a SNAD claim and return a stack of commons. Paypal (owned by feebay) will then pull the money from your account and the scum buyer gets the product and their money back.
Don't even get me started on the fees. >>
In which case, I would think just not to sell on eBay then. To me, eBay is like Microsoft. You can complain all you want, but for most people, if you want to get the respective services done, you need to use their services. Can you think of a better venue to sell your stuff than eBay? Sure, there is the BST, but that is very limited in the scope of potential buyers. There are also other methods too, but some take a long time to pay you and have certain rules also.
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<< <i>Could you give some examples of how they turned their backs on sellers? >>
Zero recourse against scum buyers. If you file a NPB, the bidder can have it removed with a simple phone call. On top of that, sellers can no longer leave negative feedback for those scum buyers. If the buyer pays and you send the advertised item in a timely manner, they can receive the item, file a SNAD claim and return a stack of commons. Paypal (owned by feebay) will then pull the money from your account and the scum buyer gets the product and their money back.
Don't even get me started on the fees. >>
In which case, I would think just not to sell on eBay then. To me, eBay is like Microsoft. You can complain all you want, but for most people, if you want to get the respective services done, you need to use their services. Can you think of a better venue to sell your stuff than eBay? Sure, there is the BST, but that is very limited in the scope of potential buyers. There are also other methods too, but some take a long time to pay you and have certain rules also. >>
You asked for some examples of how ebay has turned their backs on sellers.
I provided some examples.
You didn't argue the point.
Game. Set. Match.
Next.
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<< <i>Could you give some examples of how they turned their backs on sellers? >>
Zero recourse against scum buyers. If you file a NPB, the bidder can have it removed with a simple phone call. On top of that, sellers can no longer leave negative feedback for those scum buyers. If the buyer pays and you send the advertised item in a timely manner, they can receive the item, file a SNAD claim and return a stack of commons. Paypal (owned by feebay) will then pull the money from your account and the scum buyer gets the product and their money back.
Don't even get me started on the fees. >>
In which case, I would think just not to sell on eBay then. To me, eBay is like Microsoft. You can complain all you want, but for most people, if you want to get the respective services done, you need to use their services. Can you think of a better venue to sell your stuff than eBay? Sure, there is the BST, but that is very limited in the scope of potential buyers. There are also other methods too, but some take a long time to pay you and have certain rules also. >>
You asked for some examples of how ebay has turned their backs on sellers.
I provided some examples.
You didn't argue the point.
Game. Set. Match.
Next. >>
Screw it, dude. I've argued the point, in that if you don't like the rules, don't sell on eBay.
<< <i>Screw it, dude. I've argued the point, in that if you don't like the rules, don't sell on eBay. >>
Ok, "dude".
That would be difficult since that auction DID NOT have a BIN.
Steve
If I had to choose, I would go with supporting the circumvention of ebay fees.
so be it . You would only be one person not bidding on my stuff . There are millions of other people who would still bid.
Plus , with an expensive card like that maybe the seller wanted to deal with a buyer that would actually pay instead
of a buyer that would end up having buyers remorse
Always looking for Chipper Jones cards.
Im a very focused collector of cards from 1909 - 2012...LOL
<< <i>Winpitcher,
Suppose the bidder was going out of town or cannot be near a computer when the auction ends. He was just trying to get a card he really wants. There have been a few times I was not going to be at computer when the auction I was bidding on was going to end. So I contacted the seller and made an great offer to end the auction early. This is a very nice card for the grade and as you can tell alot of interest. >>
This sounds silly to me and like a waste of your $. Whatever 'great' offer you are going to make, put that in your snipe and you will likely win the card at less than your offer price.
John
HOF SIGNED FOOTBALL RCS
it did have a buy it now...
ebay dealer style...
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<< <i>If the seller got his price, good for him. Greedbay/PP take a ridiculous amount of money these days. Any time you can get your price and avoid one or both fees, I say good for you. And if you want a card bad enough, I think you HAVE to make an offer during the auction, at least to let the seller know you're interested in the event that he wants to end early. >>
Yes...someone finally gets it...excellent post...
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At least one person here emailed the seller and showed interest.
The bottom line is simply Ebay allows for dealers to end auctions early, they can sell to the high bidder, they can
end for whatever reason they choose. It is after all there item.
And like sellers can sell offline, potential bidders can choose not to bid with such sellers.
Steve
it did have a buy it now...
ebay dealer style...
lol nice try.
Steve