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  • storm888storm888 Posts: 11,701 ✭✭✭
    A previous listing by the complained of buyer:


    2007 D WASHINGTON DOLLAR AND MISSING EDGE ERROR COINS...THESE MAKE FOR A GREAT INVESTMENT OR A GREAT GIFT !!!!Posted 28-Mar-08 02:12:19 EDTYOU ARE INVITED TO MY EBAY AUCTIONS FOR THE 2007 D GEORGE WASHINGTON 25 $1 DOLLAR COIN MINT BU ROLLS This is to let you know that I have 2 auctions (Item: #180226575519 & # 180225902159) for the Unopened BU Washington Dollar Rolls. These auctions reflect the earlier 12/14/07 dated boxes from the Denver mint and may be of interest to you. High grade errors have been found in the rolls associated with these 12/14 boxes..16 that I've found personally and these are pictured in the auction for each of the items noted above. My $1 rolls havea ALL been stored in a controlled air-tight environment since they were purchased from the bank....SO YOU CAN ALWAYS BE CERTAIN THAT YOU ARE ALWAYS GETTING SUPERIOR QUALITY THAN THE ROLLS YOU SEE FROM SELLERS WITH NO COIN ENVIRONMENT CONTROL EXPERIENCE. I invite you to shop my auctions. and see for yourself. My goal is to "earn your business" by treating your right the first time. Cordially, John THESE ARE GREAT GIFTS FOR FAMILY MEMBERS AND FRIENDS. HOWEVER, THEY CAN YIELD HUGE RETURNS IF YOU FIND JUST ONE OF THE MISSING EDGE ERROR WASHINGTON DOLLAR COINS....SO FAR I HAVE FOUND 16 OF THESE ERROR COINS AND HAVE THEM PICTURED IN THE LISTINGS FOR THE ITEM NUMBERS ABOVE. Hope you will drop by and place a bid. I think you'll be glad you did. Cordially, johnlj4
    Folks Who Bite Get Bitten. Folks Who Don't Bite Get Eaten.
  • ShamikaShamika Posts: 18,785 ✭✭✭✭
    Honestly, I would never ever hold a single negative against a seller with 4,000 positives.



    Buyer and seller of vintage coin boards!
  • storm888storm888 Posts: 11,701 ✭✭✭
    It is too bad that BAD buyers do not understand that once they have "a problem"
    with "the wrong person," they will find themselves on SCORES of BBLs.

    THIS thread is already on PAGE ONE of google; just search the "buyer's" ID.
    Folks Who Bite Get Bitten. Folks Who Don't Bite Get Eaten.
  • Dave99BDave99B Posts: 8,700 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Blocked.

    Sorry about the Neg. This guy has a screw loose..... or possibly 2 or 3.

    I don't want his business; way too many nice buyers on the Bay.

    Dave
    Always looking for original, better date VF20-VF35 Barber quarters and halves, and a quality beer.
  • He must have purchased your dime using the proceeds from his sleazy over-hyped sales of Washington Dollar rolls.
  • storm888storm888 Posts: 11,701 ✭✭✭


    << <i>He must have purchased your dime using the proceeds from his sleazy over-hyped sales of Washington Dollar rolls. >>



    ///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////

    The "buyer" may well simply be out to damage some of his "competitors."

    In designer-fashion and used-clothing, where I mostly sell, trashing the
    competition is a DAILY sport for many of the evil broom-riders. The "ladies"
    often open new accounts for the sole purpose of leaving NEGs for their
    competition. This activity is hard to prove, and EBAY seldom removes the
    NEGs.
    Folks Who Bite Get Bitten. Folks Who Don't Bite Get Eaten.
  • dac076dac076 Posts: 817
    1) It eventually happens to anyone who sells any volume.
    2) The pictures aren't that bad. I've seen much worse.
    3) Leaving "negative" positive feedback doesn't accomplish anything. No one reads it, and you've given him a positive.
    4) Is it against Ebay's policies for him to solicit emails in his feedback to continue to trash a seller?
    5) Blocked, thanks.
  • QBertQBert Posts: 311 ✭✭✭
    Blocked
  • dohdoh Posts: 6,457 ✭✭✭
    Well, since the buyer put his e-mail address out there I decided to e-mail him for kicks....want to hear "the other side."

    What I wrote: About the 1935 Merc. I'd like to hear your side of the story because right now you sound like an impatient guy who didn't contact the seller before leaving a negative which is very poor form. What exactly happened?
    *(I signed the e-mail "J.")

    His response: J, I'm not sure who J is but it would be nice to have a name to go with your initial. Due to the fact that the claim/case at PayPal has now been turned over to PayPal, I will reserve some commentary until the claim/case is concluded. I will keep your email handy to reply when I have the conclusion to the claim. PS. I prefer to share info. with those whose names I have in advance. Please let me know who I am emailing and I can share a whole lot more with you, ok ?

    God Bless.

    Cordially, John

    So I didn't get an answer to my question at all. What a goof.
    Positive BST transactions with: too many names to list! 36 at last count.
  • rgCoinGuyrgCoinGuy Posts: 7,478
    Write him back and tell him your full name is Jay, if it makes him feel better. image
    imageQuid pro quo. Yes or no?
  • gecko109gecko109 Posts: 8,231
    He has left 6 negs in less than a month. Feebay is really effing up a good thing.
  • jfoot13jfoot13 Posts: 2,677 ✭✭✭
    sent an email inviting a response and received this

    Hi Ken,

    No. Not interested at all. I do a very very small amount of my buying on eBay just for this very reason. There are a bunch of little beeches on eBay who get off on second guessing people's decisions. And, they do very little in the way of looking into what drove the decision to be made for leaving negative feedback. I just left more negative feedback for another seller of mine for sending me 2 coins that are gouged and yet the reflection from his light source is positioned just right and the coin is set just right to bounce the light source off the coin right on the location of the gouge. I have 2 examples of this occurrance with the same seller. Oops. 3 if you include ROMA. I intend to continue working with eBay management and with their security department to clean up eBay's coin auctions and those who think they are fooling eBay shoppers. THEY SHOULD "THINK AGAIN !" ... THERE'S A NEW SHERIFF IN TOWN : ) ... GET USED TO IT !

    Thank you for bringing this to my attention. I love to see the results taking hold. IT'S FEAR THAT YOU ARE READING IN THEIR COMMENTS ABOUT ME. WHY ELSE WOULD THEY BE WRITING IN RESPONSE TO ANOTHER PERSON'S FEEDBACK OF A SELLER FOR TRICK LIGHTING AND PHOTOGRAPHY USAGE. THESE EBAYERS ARE MOST PROBABLY DOING THE SAME AS ORV AT ROMA. ORV IS NOT THE ONLY ONE PULLING THIS CRAP. TAKE A LOOK AROUND...I CAN COUND AT LEAST 2 DOZEN OTHER SELLERS PULLING THE SAME TRICK LIGHTING SCAM ON EBAY. They have all been reported and they know who they are. End of comment.

    Have a good one.

    John

    edited 1 word so I could post it





    If you can't swim you better stay in the boat.......
  • gecko109gecko109 Posts: 8,231
    That guy needs to up his meds!
  • JapanJohnJapanJohn Posts: 2,030
    No. Not interested at all. I do a very very small amount of my buying on eBay just for this very reason. There are a bunch of little beeches on eBay who get off on second guessing people's decisions. And, they do very little in the way of looking into what drove the decision to be made for leaving negative feedback. I just left more negative feedback for another seller of mine for sending me 2 coins that are gouged and yet the reflection from his light source is positioned just right and the coin is set just right to bounce the light source off the coin right on the location of the gouge. I have 2 examples of this occurrance with the same seller. Oops. 3 if you include ROMA. I intend to continue working with eBay management and with their security department to clean up eBay's coin auctions and those who think they are fooling eBay shoppers. THEY SHOULD "THINK AGAIN !" ... THERE'S A NEW SHERIFF IN TOWN : ) ... GET USED TO IT !

    Thank you for bringing this to my attention. I love to see the results taking hold. IT'S FEAR THAT YOU ARE READING IN THEIR COMMENTS ABOUT ME. WHY ELSE WOULD THEY BE WRITING IN RESPONSE TO ANOTHER PERSON'S FEEDBACK OF A SELLER FOR TRICK LIGHTING AND PHOTOGRAPHY USAGE. THESE EBAYERS ARE MOST PROBABLY DOING THE SAME AS ORV AT ROMA. ORV IS NOT THE ONLY ONE PULLING THIS CRAP. TAKE A LOOK AROUND...I CAN COUND AT LEAST 2 DOZEN OTHER SELLERS PULLING THE SAME TRICK LIGHTING SCAM ON EBAY. They have all been reported and they know who they are. End of comment.


    My comment to this is that most people on ebay are NOT professional photographers and shouldn't be held to that kind of a standard. I would strongly suggest that if Mr. Negative is that fussy about coins he should only buy them after holding them in his hands. Then there's the matter that the mercury dime was slabbed and graded by PCGS. 67 wasn't it? Doesn't a grade of 67 indicate NOT PERFECT???!!!!

    There are some goofy folks out there. It's one thing to buy a graded 67 and really receive a VF but it's another thing entirely to do what this fellow is doing.

    Sorry. I bought something from ROMA last week and bought something again this week. I see no problem here. None.

    John
    Coin Photos

    Never view my other linked pages. They aren't coin related.
  • CameonutCameonut Posts: 7,384 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Roma is top notch in my book. I have enjoyed dealing with Orv at local shows.

    johnlj4 has now been blocked. He should have just returned the coin. I feel he using the new rules to take advantage of Ebay sellers.

    Sooner or later Ebayill figure out that johnlj4 is just out to cause problems and give him the boot.

    “In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock." - Thomas Jefferson

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  • BarberianBarberian Posts: 4,119 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Here's an idea. Why doesn't everybody who has blocked this guy send him an email telling him he is blocked from their auctions and why? Maybe then he will ease up on the negative feedback towards sellers. To not even contact a seller when there is a problem is just not how Ebay works and he should be educated in this fact.
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  • FairlanemanFairlaneman Posts: 10,426 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Neg for a seller I know personally that is very conservative when grading mercs.

    This DUDE and Superior Grader is BLOCKED!!!

    Ken
  • gecko109gecko109 Posts: 8,231


    << <i>Here's an idea. Why doesn't everybody who has blocked this guy send him an email telling him he is blocked from their auctions and why? Maybe then he will ease up on the negative feedback towards sellers. To not even contact a seller when there is a problem is just not how Ebay works and he should be educated in this fact. >>




    Because then he might use an alt ID and mess up my perfect score.image
  • Again welcome to the world of paypal. I know a few people who will not accept paypal because of similar experiences.
  • mr1931Smr1931S Posts: 6,416 ✭✭✭✭✭
    What you're seeing with this guy and his negatives is cyber rage.That toolhaus site is great.I use it all the time to make decisions about whether I want to buy from someone or not.

    Whoever is careless with the truth in small matters cannot be trusted with important matters.

  • What a paranoid nut case, as evidenced by his "new Sheriff in town" mentality. I find it hard to believe that a PCGS MS-67 would have the "litany of problems" that need to be concealed by advantageous lighting in the first place. What a joke. Sorry this happened to you.
    "College men from LSU- went in dumb, come out dumb too..."
    -Randy Newmanimage
  • Here's an update - the coin came back yesterday, the claim was paid and we are RID of him. A negative wasn't the problem, it's just the principle of the whole eBay/PayPal set-up being so screwed up.

    The coin is interesting, and will be shown to PCGS. Most times we don't look so closely at MS67FB's and wouldn't have noticed it. It's one I'd actually like to own if I collected them.

    I think if someone files a dispute with PP, they should be asked by them first if they've contacted the seller (OR buyer) and tried to work things out before they (PP) get involved. No, they just grab your money, and any terms you had set in your auction are out the window. To me an auction is a contract. When they hit "submit", they've agreed to the terms and will abide by them. Maybe in the old days.

    This is HYSTERICAL!

    THEY SHOULD "THINK AGAIN !" ... THERE'S A NEW SHERIFF IN TOWN : ) ... GET USED TO IT !

    Sheriff? Dang, Barney Fife could outgun him!

    Have bought and sold on BST, many references available when asked.
  • MFHMFH Posts: 11,720 ✭✭✭✭

    He's toast. Blocked - and thanks for letting us know.
    Mike Hayes
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Coin collecting is not a hobby, it's an obsession !

    New Barber Purchases
  • mrpaseomrpaseo Posts: 4,753 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I don't think you did anything wrong, seems the buyer just isn't the 'ideal eBayer' we hope we'll be dealing with everytime. Don't sweat it just move on.......

    We're only hearing your side of this in all honestly. Don't get me wrong, your feedback speaks for itself, but there's usually 2 sides to every story. >>




    Actually there are three sides to every story, both parties then the true story. Most often stories are one sided, take out all the drama and you will find the true story. Just my opinion, this opinion has nothing to do with this particular incident, after looking at the feedback that this buyer has been leaving I made my own decision to place him on my block list. This opinion has nothing to do with either side of this story, as a Noncommissioned officer in the Army it is my job to weed through the biased opinions of the situations that happen in my Platoon and get to the bottom if the situation and fix it. Often I find both sides of the story are biased.

    Just my opinion,
    Ray
  • 19Lyds19Lyds Posts: 26,492 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>The coin is interesting, and will be shown to PCGS at Baltimore - feel free to stop at ROMA's table for a look. Most times we don't look so closely at MS67FB's and wouldn't have noticed it. It's one I'd actually like to own if I collected them. >>



    What's your table number?



    << <i>THEY SHOULD "THINK AGAIN !" ... THERE'S A NEW SHERIFF IN TOWN : ) ... GET USED TO IT !

    Sheriff? Dang, Barney Fife could outgun him! >>



    Hopefully, eBay will wise up to this Numismatic Nutcase!
    I decided to change calling the bathroom the John and renamed it the Jim. I feel so much better saying I went to the Jim this morning.



    The name is LEE!
  • Blocked ....thanks for the heads up.
  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,867 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I wonder if this jerk is aware of this thread.

    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
    "Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
    "Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire

  • dohdoh Posts: 6,457 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I wonder if this jerk is aware of this thread. >>


    I thought about sending it to him, but the guy seems like enough of a lunatic to create trouble for Marz....even going so far as to create another eBay account just to screw with Marz. Who knows? With people as unbalanced as that guy, you have to be careful sadly.

    Positive BST transactions with: too many names to list! 36 at last count.
  • Oh, he's been made aware by more than one who wrote to him - and I hope he has read it. Just glad he'll have less sellers to mess with in the future.

    Thanks again from both Orv and myself for your support.

    Marlene
    Have bought and sold on BST, many references available when asked.
  • zeebobzeebob Posts: 2,825
    johnlj4 - blocked.
  • cmerlo1cmerlo1 Posts: 7,960 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>We're only hearing your side of this in all honestly. Don't get me wrong, your feedback speaks for itself, but there's usually 2 sides to every story. >>



    Blocked. The buyer's feedback alone is proof enough for me.
    You Suck! Awarded 6/2008- 1901-O Micro O Morgan, 8/2008- 1878 VAM-123 Morgan, 9/2022 1888-O VAM-1B3 H8 Morgan | Senior Regional Representative- ANACS Coin Grading. Posted opinions on coins are my own, and are not an official ANACS opinion.
  • segojasegoja Posts: 6,141 ✭✭✭✭
    Blocked

    Roma Coins are the good guys
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  • ttownttown Posts: 4,472 ✭✭✭
    Well I see he also sells coins sometimes, it's just a matter of time as he pisses people off that he'll get his just rewards.image
  • DennisHDennisH Posts: 14,011 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Blocked.
    When in doubt, don't.
  • nencoinnencoin Posts: 1,278 ✭✭✭✭
    BLOCKED.
  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,867 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I never sell via eBay but don't want to be left out, so---BLOCKED.

    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
    "Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
    "Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire

  • LALASD4LALASD4 Posts: 3,602 ✭✭✭
    I blocked him a long time ago, as I remember, he is from San Diego, he brought a PCGS coin from me and I meet him to deliver the coin, the next day he says he wants a refund and I did met him again to give him a refund.

    Then he started to e-mail all my bidders saying that I sell fake PCGS coins or PCGS coins are fakes and they do not know how to grade, I complaint to Ebay and it did nothing. So I started putting his name and his false information in all my listings so my bidders will know.

    You might want to do the same in case he is e-mailing your bidders also.

    His name was John something, I do not recall off hand. He is a total nut !
    Coin Collector, Chicken Owner, Licensed Tax Preparer & Insurance Broker/Agent.
    San Diego, CA


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  • Blocked!
    Looking to buy Morgans in ACG, INS, IGA, Old PCI photo, and Hannes Tulving holders.


  • << <i>I blocked him a long time ago, as I remember, he is from San Diego, he brought a PCGS coin from me and I meet him to deliver the coin, the next day he says he wants a refund and I did met him again to give him a refund.

    Then he started to e-mail all my bidders saying that I sell fake PCGS coins or PCGS coins are fakes and they do not know how to grade, I complaint to Ebay and it did nothing. So I started putting his name and his false information in all my listings so my bidders will know.

    You might want to do the same in case he is e-mailing your bidders also.

    His name was John something, I do not recall off hand. He is a total nut ! >>



    It is Hellmer.

    Just filed for a FVF Credit - this should be interesting. UPDATE - FVF granted quickly - very surprised!

    Oh, and another seller just got a neutral from him, although he refunded him AND let him keep the coin. (< $10) image
    Have bought and sold on BST, many references available when asked.
  • LALASD4LALASD4 Posts: 3,602 ✭✭✭
    Found the XXXXXXXX's info.image

    Ebay ID: johnlj4
    John Hellmer
    P. O. Box 13513
    La Jolla, CA 92039 United States
    Phone: (619) 256-0947
    Coin Collector, Chicken Owner, Licensed Tax Preparer & Insurance Broker/Agent.
    San Diego, CA


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  • LALASD4LALASD4 Posts: 3,602 ✭✭✭
    I found the joker's e-mail also and what I had to put into all my listings for a few months.

    I have been informed by many people that the following idiot had been
    sending the following mis-leading e-mails to them. If you have
    received an e-mail from him, please forward it to rswebhelp@...
    with the full e-mail hearder info.

    Thought you should be aware:

    Hi, This is to provide information on an item your are currently
    bidding on.



    Word to the wise. I have purchased from this seller
    before and the error coins did not weigh the standard
    mint weight. The case needs to weigh 30 grams and the
    coin needs to weigh 8.0 grams, for a combined weight
    of 38.0 grams. This sellers graded coin weighs far
    less than the standard weight. I personally weighed 3
    of his PCGS graded coins and weight was at least .75
    grams LESS THAN the standard combined weight for the
    case and coin. PCGS has admitted to me that they do
    not weigh the coins in their grading process. This
    means that they are not screening for weight variance.
    Sorry to have to tell you this, but I don't want to
    see anyone get screwed like I did from this seller.
    I welcome any questions you may have in this regard.

    PS..I am also supplying the abbove info to CoinWord editorial.

    Regards, John




    Ebay ID: johnlj4
    John Hellmer
    P. O. Box 13513
    La Jolla, CA 92039 United States
    Phone: (619) 256-0947
    Please report him.
    Thanks.

    Coin Collector, Chicken Owner, Licensed Tax Preparer & Insurance Broker/Agent.
    San Diego, CA


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  • LALASD4LALASD4 Posts: 3,602 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Roma is top notch in my book. I have enjoyed dealing with Orv at local shows.

    johnlj4 has now been blocked. He should have just returned the coin. I feel he using the new rules to take advantage of Ebay sellers.

    Sooner or later Ebayill figure out that johnlj4 is just out to cause problems and give him the boot. >>



    He has been at it for a long time and he is still there, Ebay don't care!
    Coin Collector, Chicken Owner, Licensed Tax Preparer & Insurance Broker/Agent.
    San Diego, CA


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  • LALASD4LALASD4 Posts: 3,602 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Here's an idea. Why doesn't everybody who has blocked this guy send him an email telling him he is blocked from their auctions and why? Maybe then he will ease up on the negative feedback towards sellers. To not even contact a seller when there is a problem is just not how Ebay works and he should be educated in this fact. >>




    Because then he might use an alt ID and mess up my perfect score.image >>



    Just setup an alt e-mail to e-mail him.
    Coin Collector, Chicken Owner, Licensed Tax Preparer & Insurance Broker/Agent.
    San Diego, CA


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  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,867 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Just setup an alt e-mail to e-mail him. >>



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    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
    "Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
    "Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire

  • relicsncoinsrelicsncoins Posts: 8,110 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Just create a new ebay account, and watch him for when he has some low priced item for sale. Win the item and neg him for the heck of it. image

    JJ
    Need a Barber Half with ANACS photo certificate. If you have one for sale please PM me. Current Ebay auctions
  • zeebobzeebob Posts: 2,825


    << <i>Just create a new ebay account, and watch him for when he has some low priced item for sale. Win the item and neg him for the heck of it. image

    JJ >>



    ah, don't torment the mentally ill. Dude needs medication (or maybe a good session of shock treatment), not taunting by the sane.

    My 2C,

    Bob
    BTW: dude is BLOCKED
  • ILikeMercsILikeMercs Posts: 1,392
    what's wrong with the pics? The problem seems to be the camera. Can you say, MACRO?
    imageDo not taunt Happy Fun Ball image
  • LALASD4LALASD4 Posts: 3,602 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Just create a new ebay account, and watch him for when he has some low priced item for sale. Win the item and neg him for the heck of it. image

    JJ >>



    ah, don't torment the mentally ill. Dude needs medication (or maybe a good session of shock treatment), not taunting by the sane.

    My 2C,

    Bob
    BTW: dude is BLOCKED >>



    Normally I would agree, but he is not mentally ill, I talked with him for more than 1/2 an hour in person.

    Remember you must wait 5 days to leave feedback on a new Ebay account.image
    Coin Collector, Chicken Owner, Licensed Tax Preparer & Insurance Broker/Agent.
    San Diego, CA


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  • segojasegoja Posts: 6,141 ✭✭✭✭
    With this many folks blocking him, it'll show up soon enough when he goes to bid.

    I'd love to see the look when he gets a blocked advice from E-Bay for someone on this thread!!!

    Orv, you're doing the right thing!
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  • LALASD4LALASD4 Posts: 3,602 ✭✭✭
    Please don't show him this thread everyone. This nut case might just bid on all your auctions and leave everyone negatives.
    Coin Collector, Chicken Owner, Licensed Tax Preparer & Insurance Broker/Agent.
    San Diego, CA


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