Home Trading Cards & Memorabilia Forum

BBCE order - 1975 Topps mini - live rip of 5 packs

2

Comments

  • stevekstevek Posts: 30,323 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>If he took the time to read the other rip thread he'd find that Nick had aalready pulled a Bird/Magic/Dr.J card from an 80-81 Topps pack. Then he throws in the "beats throwing away money on Pokerstars" comment to further support his agenda of cluing in the world to the ills of online gambling, a message that A) Is not appropriate for this forum, and B) No one really wants to hear.

    We know ripping packs is a gamble and usually a losing proposition. Some of us choose to do it anway because we can afford to and it makes life a little more fun. Your two contributions to this forum are: Gambing is bad, and the Phillies are great. We know how you feel. We get it. You might want to try removing the broken record and play something new. >>



    Lee - You are hilarious. You start a "watch me on Pokerstars" gambling thread on a regular basis, and then you knock me for one small comment here on the foolishness of gambling. And I've never interrupted your Pokerstars threads while the tournament is in progress...if I make comments, it'll be after the tournament is over, if I feel like it.

    I've got nothing against you or any gambler or poker player. In fact despite your negative comments about me, I believe you're an interesting poster here and I enjoy your sense of humor. I know you don't like me and that's okay and I couldn't care less. Because the real reason for your dislike, no matter what you say, is that I've called out gambling affiliate hucksters for what they are. Their "agenda" is to make "friends" on various forums, show and tell them through various schemes and deception how "fun and profitable" it is to play online poker, and then entice them into signing up on their affiliate commission programs so the hucksters can earn money off their forum "friends" - If you're not an affiliate commission huckster and you've never offered anyone here to signup on your Pokerstars commission affiliate link, then my comments don't apply to you. But for those who make "friends" in internet forums for a purpose of getting them to signup on their affiliate links...these hucksters aren't looking for friends, they're looking for customers and they view their customers as prey. That's telling it like it is.

    Can't wait to hear your spin on this one Lee, or your spin on why you don't want to comment on it. I don't post on 2+2...never have, never will...that's their domain and I respect that. You wanna keep bringing OT gambling threads to a sports and memorabilia forum, then grow a pair and be prepared to be called out at times.
  • CDsNutsCDsNuts Posts: 10,092
    Nam, so what you are saying in essence is that you pity the fool.

    Steve- no one here mentioned gambling or profitability or online poker besides you. No one wants to listen to your spiel. No one cares. A lot of this hobby is centered around the concept of gambling, so by taking part in the hobby you are contradicting your outlook on life. And if you don't take part in this hobby then there's no reason for you to be here other than to further your agenda, which again, no one here cares about. You might as well be in the lobby of the Bellagio telling people they shouldn't gamble.
  • stevekstevek Posts: 30,323 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>blah blah blah....simply because I warn people about the dangers of gambling...blah blah blah >>



    Isn't there a 12 steps forum you can post on?

    Get a life, buzzkill. >>



    I already do. Somebody wants to start an OT thread on poker gambling, then I'm gonna join in if I feel like it, and present the "other" point of view. >>



    Unfortunately for you, you're the only one with the "other" point of view about your value to this forum. >>



    That's incorrect and not even close - I have received many, MANY nice comments over the years about warning people about ebay scams and so forth...and other things as well including gambling. I enjoy doing it and will continue to do it. And I've learned a great amount from many members here about the hobby which has made the hobby more enjoyable for me. It's a great forum.
  • nam812nam812 Posts: 10,602 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>......You might as well be in the lobby of the Bellagio telling people they shouldn't gamble. >>



    Cowards rarely move out from behind their computers Lee.
  • gumbyfangumbyfan Posts: 5,168 ✭✭✭


    << <i>That's incorrect and not even close - I have received many, MANY nice comments over the years about warning people about ebay scams and so forth...and other things as well including gambling. I enjoy doing it and will continue to do it. And I've learned a great amount from many members here about the hobby which has made the hobby more enjoyable for me. It's a great forum. >>



    That seems highly unlikely.

    (the part where you claim you are capable of enjoyment)
  • stevekstevek Posts: 30,323 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Nam, so what you are saying in essence is that you pity the fool.

    Steve- no one here mentioned gambling or profitability or online poker besides you. No one wants to listen to your spiel. No one cares. A lot of this hobby is centered around the concept of gambling, so by taking part in the hobby you are contradicting your outlook on life. And if you don't take part in this hobby then there's no reason for you to be here other than to further your agenda, which again, no one here cares about. You might as well be in the lobby of the Bellagio telling people they shouldn't gamble. >>



    Lee - your comments here are just as absurd as anyone stating that they can make money in the long-run at online poker. I already stated that I couldn't care less what you think about me, because I know how much I enjoy this hobby and what it means to me.
  • My only question is.... what is the prize for steve's 10000th post contest. By the time this thread dies, he will be at 10k.
  • CDsNutsCDsNuts Posts: 10,092
    I do the poker contest threads because people seem to have fun with it. I give away free cards and it's a good way to kill an evening for me and anyone else who happens to be on the boards at midnight. I haven't had one person ask me to stop them, and if one or two people did request it (other than you) I would stop. The difference between what I do and what you do is I try and contribute to the forum and keep it light and fun, and you try and stop people from doing things they were already gonna do anyway. And after they do them, you make some snide comment about how foolish they were (in a roundabout way).

    And your affiliate comments don't apply to me. I signed onto most poker sites way before rakeback was offered, so I do not receive rakeback or try to hock it to anybody else. Partypoker was the only site I received rakeback on and I can't play there anymore being a US player. I really don't even know how the affiliate programs work to tell you the truth. Many posters here have asked me about online poker (which sites to play, how to deposit, etc..) and I've never solicited one of them for anything.
  • gumbyfangumbyfan Posts: 5,168 ✭✭✭


    << <i>My only question is.... what is the prize for steve's 10000th post contest. By the time this thread dies, he will be at 10k. >>



    $100 deposit at the online gaming site of your choice?
  • stevekstevek Posts: 30,323 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>......You might as well be in the lobby of the Bellagio telling people they shouldn't gamble. >>



    Cowards rarely move out from behind their computers Lee. >>



    Continuing with the name calling huh? But it interesting to see the Pokerstars "gang" on here with their negative comments.

    Any luck recently signing up any underage gamblers to your affiliate commission program?
  • nam812nam812 Posts: 10,602 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>My only question is.... what is the prize for steve's 10000th post contest. By the time this thread dies, he will be at 10k. >>



    Don't hold your breath because whether it's information about the hobby or free cards, stevek isn't giving anything to anyone.
  • CDsNutsCDsNuts Posts: 10,092
    I can give you a list of at least 10 people on these boards that have pm'd me poker related questions. You can ask any one of them if I ever asked them to join any type of program.
  • nam812nam812 Posts: 10,602 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Continuing with the name calling huh? >>



    This from the guy that told me FU the other night in a thread where he talked bad about America, then went back an edited that and about 5 other inflammatory posts he made. You're right, that's not the sign of a coward.




    << <i>Any luck recently signing up any underage gamblers to your affiliate commission program? >>



    Why do you keep mentioning that to me in your responses? I have played on Pokerstars in the past, but havent had an active account there in almost a year.
  • stevekstevek Posts: 30,323 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I do the poker contest threads because people seem to have fun with it. I give away free cards and it's a good way to kill an evening for me and anyone else who happens to be on the boards at midnight. I haven't had one person ask me to stop them, and if one or two people did request it (other than you) I would stop. The difference between what I do and what you do is I try and contribute to the forum and keep it light and fun, and you try and stop people from doing things they were already gonna do anyway. And after they do them, you make some snide comment about how foolish they were (in a roundabout way).

    And your affiliate comments don't apply to me. I signed onto most poker sites way before rakeback was offered, so I do not receive rakeback or try to hock it to anybody else. Partypoker was the only site I received rakeback on and I can't play there anymore being a US player. I really don't even know how the affiliate programs work to tell you the truth. Many posters here have asked me about online poker (which sites to play, how to deposit, etc..) and I've never solicited one of them for anything. >>



    That's cool Lee - I'm gonna end it here for this thread. I've spoken my piece, and again...I've clearly stated this before that I've never rooted against a gambler in my life. I'm not against gamblers, I like gamblers and I have some good friends who are gamblers...I'm against the exploitation of people...always have been even when I was a gambler, and I always will be against that...it's just the way I am and I like myself for that.
  • otwcardsotwcards Posts: 5,291 ✭✭✭
    Hijack alert!!!

    Insert personal agenda here, then rant endlessly about something that is mindless and useless to the masses.

    Hijack alert over!!!
  • gumbyfangumbyfan Posts: 5,168 ✭✭✭


    << <i>...it's just the way I am and I like myself for that. >>



    image

    ...keep on thinking that...
  • otwcardsotwcards Posts: 5,291 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I'm not against gamblers, I like gamblers and I have some good friends who are gamblers...I'm against the exploitation of people...always have been even when I was a gambler, and I always will be against that...it's just the way I am and I like myself for that. >>



    I'm not against minorities, I like minorities and I have some good friends who are minorities...I'm against the exploitation of minorities...always have been even when I was a minority, and I always will be against that...it's just the way I am and I like myself for that.

    You can also substitute any other animal, race, occupation, sports team, political affiliation, or meat byproduct that you please... I think this is one of the greatest CYA and cop-out lines EVER and it's worked for many, many, many for years!
  • zep33zep33 Posts: 6,897 ✭✭✭
    I ran into a street sign one time when I was a kid trying to catch a football
  • DavidPuddyDavidPuddy Posts: 3,488 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I ran into a street sign one time when I was a kid trying to catch a football >>



    It least it wasn't a parked car! Still got the scar.image
    "The Sipe market is ridiculous right now"
    CDsNuts, 1/9/15
  • storm888storm888 Posts: 11,701 ✭✭✭
    "...it also seems obvious to me as well that at this point in time with wax packs, that any dealer who sees a wax pack that has a good potential for profit, is gonna rip it himself and the wax packs that he decides to sell are not of good potential - those he will keep intact and sell - that's my opinion and belief...."

    //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////

    Steve Hart (BBCE) and other reputable dealers have repeatedly advised that
    there is not a satisfactory formula for determining that ANY sealed packs are
    more valuable when they are opened. ALL have counseled that the sealed
    pack has a fixed value, while busted packs have a fungible value that should
    ALWAYS be assumed to be less than the former.

    Squandering the fixed value is an expenditure that "funds fun." Busting packs
    does not have to be profitable to have value assigned, IF a value is placed on
    the fun that the activity creates for the owner/user and the observer.

    An unassigned portion of the "fun" is about the "gamble" that some sought-after
    card might be discovered. While the dollars at risk are greater than they are
    when kids break store-bought packs, the fun of both activities springs from the
    excitement of risk/reward; that excitement is at the heart of card collecting,
    and without that attraction there would be NO card hobby.

    EVERY business activity is about gambling. Trying to pick and choose which gambling
    has merit and which is destructive is foolish. Branding any form of financial risk as
    "vice" is anti-capitalist, anti-opportunity, and spites the American Way.

    That my casinos of choice - stock/commodity markets - are society/government
    sanctioned, while the casinos chosen by others RECEIVE sanctions by society/government
    is a ludicrous product of a puritan morality that is much akin to the nonsense dogma
    that caused psychos to fly airplanes into American buildings on September 11, 2001.

    Some public policies that protect us from ourselves likely serve a worthwhile public
    purpose. Anti-gambling laws do not fall into that category. Such prohibitions are clear
    violations of Natural Law, and when extended to the conclusions of their proponents
    would halt capital formation.........and might end ALL profit-motivated commerce.

    Gambling and speculatiing is GOOD. We live in a GREAT country not because we shun
    risk, but because our ancestors - and we - are the most agressive "gamblers" that
    history has ever noted. The lifeblood of the card hobby is GAMBLING; let is always
    be so.



    Folks Who Bite Get Bitten. Folks Who Don't Bite Get Eaten.
  • Did it hurt?
  • zep33zep33 Posts: 6,897 ✭✭✭
    i remember it hurting but I was OK.

    thanks for asking
  • CDsNutsCDsNuts Posts: 10,092
    To recap:

    Nam ripped some packs and had fun.

    Stevek thinks gambling is bad.

    otw doesn't root against pastrami. He has lots of friends who eat pastrami. He just doesn't like the exploitation of pastrami.

    I am the leader of an affiliate program for online poker and I try to suck in as many people as I possibly can.

    zep ran into a sign.

    storm said a bunch of stuff that makes sense.

    Gumbyfan has common sense.



    Did I leave anybody out?
  • ....and this one time at band camp....
  • otwcardsotwcards Posts: 5,291 ✭✭✭


    << <i>To recap:

    Nam ripped some packs and had fun.

    Stevek thinks gambling is bad.

    otw doesn't root against pastrami. He has lots of friends who eat pastrami. He just doesn't like the exploitation of pastrami.

    I am the leader of an affiliate program for online poker and I try to suck in as many people as I possibly can.

    zep ran into a sign.

    storm said a bunch of stuff that makes sense.

    Gumbyfan has common sense.



    Did I leave anybody out? >>



    I failed reading comprehension... Can I get the Cliffnotes version of Storm's post? Or maybe the Reader's Digest version with all of those little jokes and anecdotes at the bottom of the page...
  • nam812nam812 Posts: 10,602 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yes Lee, you forgot that LSU would rather watch me rip 1975 minis than attend to his naked wife, which I thought was equally cool and disturbing.
  • nam812nam812 Posts: 10,602 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Can I get the Cliffnotes version of Storm's post? >>



    He basically said ripping wax is fun, and then likened stevek's kind to those that bombed the world trade center.
  • storm888storm888 Posts: 11,701 ✭✭✭
    "i remember it hurting but I was OK. "

    ///////////////////////////////////////////////////////

    I recall the pain of almost ALL of my skateboard injuries, and I was seldom "OK."
    My bicycle hurts were no picnic either. Playing with cards makes me recall the
    times of those pains; excellent times!

    Skateboards made of 2X4s and abandoned roller-skates. Bicycles with baseball
    cards clothes-pinned to the rear wheels. Vending machines with gum and cards
    at the front door of every liquor/grocery store in town. Candy cigarettes and real
    ones. Loose little chickies; blonde AND exotic.

    image
    Folks Who Bite Get Bitten. Folks Who Don't Bite Get Eaten.
  • swartz1swartz1 Posts: 4,911 ✭✭✭


    << <i>To recap:

    Nam ripped some packs and had fun.

    Stevek thinks gambling is bad.

    otw doesn't root against pastrami. He has lots of friends who eat pastrami. He just doesn't like the exploitation of pastrami.

    I am the leader of an affiliate program for online poker and I try to suck in as many people as I possibly can.

    zep ran into a sign.

    storm said a bunch of stuff that makes sense.

    Gumbyfan has common sense.



    Did I leave anybody out? >>





    Phillies are now officially #1


    Looking for 1970 MLB Photostamps
    - uncut


    Positive Transactions - tennesseebanker, Ahmanfan, Donruss, Colebear, CDsNuts, rbdjr1, Downtown1974, yankeeno7, drewsef, mnolan, mrbud60, msassin, RipublicaninMass, AkbarClone, rustywilly, lsutigers1973, julen23 and nam812, plus many others...
  • gumbyfangumbyfan Posts: 5,168 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I am the leader of an affiliate program for online poker and I try to suck in as many people as I possibly can. >>



    Where do I sign up?
  • DavidPuddyDavidPuddy Posts: 3,488 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Did I leave anybody out? >>



    what about me, and my pain??
    "The Sipe market is ridiculous right now"
    CDsNuts, 1/9/15
  • CDsNutsCDsNuts Posts: 10,092
    Sorry Puddy, you're an OPC collector so you're really not part of the hobby. Everybody knows they aren't real cards unless they're made in America.
  • I was going to say that I was left out. Thanks nam for remembering me. My point was that I see my wife naked almost every day. I do not get to watch a few 33 year old wax packs ripped every day. Plus, the enjoyment was about the same.
  • otwcardsotwcards Posts: 5,291 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Phillies are now officially #1 >>



    Interesting take considering they have the third best record in the NL and are tied for the 5th best in baseball. But I guess that's looking at the pot half full. Ante up!
  • CDsNutsCDsNuts Posts: 10,092
    Sorry LSU, I felt no need to throw salt in your wounds. I will not leave you out in future thread summaries.

    Also, it should be noted that todqay is my birthday so I can say what I want to anybody with no repercussions whatsoever.
  • otwcardsotwcards Posts: 5,291 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I was going to say that I was left out. Thanks nam for remembering me. My point was that I see my wife naked almost every day. I do not get to watch a few 33 year old wax packs ripped every day. Plus, the enjoyment was about the same. >>



    Better not let the wife see this. I made a similar mistake once . . . just once. I spent the next six nights on a park bench thankful for WiFi and being able to tap into a light pole for electricity...
  • gumbyfangumbyfan Posts: 5,168 ✭✭✭


    << <i>what about me, and my pain?? >>



    Rub a little something on it...
    imageimage

    ...or a little someone
    image

    oooooh Canada
  • My wife knows where she stands when it comes to my true loves.... Her, my kids and baseball/baseball cards......not necessarily in that order.
  • stevekstevek Posts: 30,323 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>My only question is.... what is the prize for steve's 10000th post contest. By the time this thread dies, he will be at 10k. >>



    Don't hold your breath because whether it's information about the hobby or free cards, stevek isn't giving anything to anyone. >>



    Allright - one more post for my "buddy" Nam. You're wrong again Nam - check out the link. Have you ever been right about anything? LOL


    http://forums.collectors.com/messageview.cfm?catid=40&threadid=647507&highlight_key=y
  • DavidPuddyDavidPuddy Posts: 3,488 ✭✭✭
    I love Maple Leaves!

    Very Pouty. I like it.
    "The Sipe market is ridiculous right now"
    CDsNuts, 1/9/15
  • swartz1swartz1 Posts: 4,911 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Phillies are now officially #1 >>



    Interesting take considering they have the third best record in the NL and are tied for the 5th best in baseball. But I guess that's looking at the pot half full. Ante up! >>



    meatball

    division


    Looking for 1970 MLB Photostamps
    - uncut


    Positive Transactions - tennesseebanker, Ahmanfan, Donruss, Colebear, CDsNuts, rbdjr1, Downtown1974, yankeeno7, drewsef, mnolan, mrbud60, msassin, RipublicaninMass, AkbarClone, rustywilly, lsutigers1973, julen23 and nam812, plus many others...
  • nam812nam812 Posts: 10,602 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>http://forums.collectors.com/messageview.cfm?catid=40&threadid=647507&highlight_key=y >>



    Four or five people took that ridiculous thread seriously, and more people fought with you in it (no big shock there) than actually entered it. image I think I like you better when the real drunken gambler in you comes out and you talk bad about America and say FU to me. That's my favorite stevek.
  • stevekstevek Posts: 30,323 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>http://forums.collectors.com/messageview.cfm?catid=40&threadid=647507&highlight_key=y >>



    Four or five people took that ridiculous thread seriously, and more people fought with you in it (no big shock there) than actually entered it. image I think I like you better when the real drunken gambler in you comes out and you talk bad about America and say FU to me. That's my favorite stevek. >>



    I knew the negative "Nam spin" like this was coming. image

    It was really only one guy in the thread who was against it. If you participated more in the Sports Talk forum (I hardly remember one or two posts from you there), you would understand that a lot of those comments derived from smack talk between the members which has been going on for years. The contest is real, and the intended smack talk in the contest was understood by the regulars there.

  • nam812nam812 Posts: 10,602 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>.....If you participated more in the Sports Talk forum...... >>



    Too much childish banter over there for me, but if that's your thing then feel free to stay over there.

    Edited to add: You can tell them over on the sports talk forum there that Washington D.C. will soon be renamed Mao, D.C. I believe that was a direct quote from you the other night while you were talking bad about the United States of America.
  • stevekstevek Posts: 30,323 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>.....If you participated more in the Sports Talk forum...... >>



    Too much childish banter over there for me, but if that's your thing then feel free to stay over there. >>




    Well excuuuuussssse meeeeee. LOL

    Go Phillies!!!!!
  • stevekstevek Posts: 30,323 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>.....If you participated more in the Sports Talk forum...... >>



    Too much childish banter over there for me, but if that's your thing then feel free to stay over there.

    Edited to add: You can tell them over on the sports talk forum there that Washington D.C. will soon be renamed Mao, D.C. I believe that was a direct quote from you the other night while you were talking bad about the United States of America. >>



    Whew...You really need Axtell here to chat with you. That comment was clearly total sarcasm, and intended to get Americans alert and realize that the deficit spending, buying way too many goods from China with a huge trade deficit, and with the dollar plunging...something needs to be done about these problems. You truly are just plain ignorant if you believe any comment I made in that thread was talking bad about America.



  • nam812nam812 Posts: 10,602 ✭✭✭✭✭
    There were at least 5 or 6 other anti American comments like that in the thread. You remember the thread dont you? Its the one where you went on a cowardly editing rampage before it went poof.
  • gumbyfangumbyfan Posts: 5,168 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I'm gonna end it here for this thread. I've spoken my piece... >>



    I knew it was too good to be true 2 hours and 44 minutes ago when you said that...
  • stevekstevek Posts: 30,323 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>There were at least 5 or 6 other anti American comments like that in the thread. You remember the thread dont you? Its the one where you went on a cowardly editing rampage before it went poof. >>




    Okay, I'll give it one more try, to try to enlighten you....It was SARCASM. S-A-R-C-A-S-M...Got it now? Probably not.

    I edited the posts because I didn't want to happen to me what happened to Mike (Stone) - The edits had nothing to do with you. Beginning to understand it now? Probably not.
  • stevekstevek Posts: 30,323 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>I'm gonna end it here for this thread. I've spoken my piece... >>



    I knew it was too good to be true 2 hours and 44 minutes ago when you said that... >>




    +1
Sign In or Register to comment.