anybody ever see a 1 yr old gold coin toning in the holder?
coinman420
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i got out some coins to photograph and list on ebay and noticed this. i know gold can tone but not as much or as fast silver nickel and copper. i had this graded about a year ago when i got it from the mint and didn`t expect much toning to take place in the holder. i don`t mind this happening as i like toned coins. now i got me some "dirty gold" graded MS70
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<< <i>That's quite exceptional. I wonder what they used to burnish the planchets? Used crankcase oil??????? >>
Can you be so sure that the person who submitted the coin didn't dip it and improperly rinse it?
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<< <i>That's quite exceptional. I wonder what they used to burnish the planchets? Used crankcase oil??????? >>
Can you be so sure that the person who submitted the coin didn't dip it and improperly rinse it? >>
i bought 2-4 coin sets last year and sent them in still in the mint packaging. the other coins stored in the same place did not tone at all. if the coin was dipped then i guess the mint did it.
Even some of my 2006 w American Silver Eagle 20th Anniversary sets in NGC multiholder are toning(only the 69's, 70's are bright and shiny)
The toning doesn't look bad though.
How can we find out?
<< <i>it must be the copper in the alloy that is toning? anyways i don`t mind it toning as i like the color. good question on if its still a 70. >>
it's a 70 because the plastic says it's 70. OR PCGS pays you market value for a 70, no?
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TD
https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/quarters/washington-quarters-major-sets/washington-quarters-date-set-circulation-strikes-1932-present/publishedset/209923
https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/quarters/washington-quarters-major-sets/washington-quarters-date-set-circulation-strikes-1932-present/album/209923
Am now inclined to think that it was not the burnishing process.
No idea what caused it.
TD
why or how. dunno. but i do know it is not .999 fine
therefore more likely to tone.
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<< <i>That's quite exceptional. I wonder what they used to burnish the planchets? Used crankcase oil??????? >>
Can you be so sure that the person who submitted the coin didn't dip it and improperly rinse it? >>
Mine are toning nicely also and I directly submitted them from the mint. Many of mine have that nice orange peel circular toning from the outside toward the center. Kinda like album toning but it happens in the holder.
In a way it is nice because now all of the coins look different and unique.
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<< <i>That's quite exceptional. I wonder what they used to burnish the planchets? Used crankcase oil??????? >>
Can you be so sure that the person who submitted the coin didn't dip it and improperly rinse it? >>
Mine are toning nicely also and I directly submitted them from the mint. Many of mine have that nice orange peel circular toning from the outside toward the center. Kinda like album toning but it happens in the holder.
In a way it is nice because now all of the coins look different and unique.
same kind of toning is happening to my two out three 2006 $5 San Fran Commen unc. and they are in PCGs holders.
they look quite attractive !!
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<< <i>That's quite exceptional. I wonder what they used to burnish the planchets? Used crankcase oil??????? >>
Can you be so sure that the person who submitted the coin didn't dip it and improperly rinse it? >>
Mine are toning nicely also and I directly submitted them from the mint. Many of mine have that nice orange peel circular toning from the outside toward the center. Kinda like album toning but it happens in the holder.
In a way it is nice because now all of the coins look different and unique.
same kind of toning is happening to my two out three 2006 $5 San Fran Commen unc. and they are in PCGs holders.
they look quite attractive !! >>
Yeah, my SF commems are getting some seriously dark toning.
Actually I have some Buffalo gold coins that are toning also. Only the proofs, the UNC's seem fine. Must be residue from the rinse the mint uses.
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<< <i>since it is fine gold, .900, i can see it toning.
why or how. dunno. but i do know it is not .999 fine
therefore more likely to tone. >>
They are .91666... gold,
.030000 silver and
the balance copper.
<< <i>I have a 2005 PCGS FS $10 AGE MS 69, that is toned around the rim. Looks really nice. Something's going on, around here? >>
Mine is a 2007-w AGE MS69 with full rim tone.??? All of my 2006 are tone free. (Copper, please remain hidden...)
.030000 silver and
the balance copper.
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thank you for the exact metal content!
i was just going by the average definition of "fine" when referring to gold.
now if i saw .999 gold toning like that my first thought would be what in the
heck is on the surface of the coin... but "fine" gold... it could very well be
the copper/silver combined with other environmental factors...
<< <i>They are .91666... gold,
.030000 silver and
the balance copper.
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thank you for the exact metal content!
i was just going by the average definition of "fine" when referring to gold.
now if i saw .999 gold toning like that my first thought would be what in the
heck is on the surface of the coin... but "fine" gold... it could very well be
the copper/silver combined with other environmental factors... >>
I have some Buffaloes that are toning, it does look above the surface so I am guessing it has something to the with the rinse and the Mint and that is interacting with the air and oxidizing some how.
<< <i>I like the toning. But does a toned coin still qualify for a PCGS 70 grade? >>
Sure Does!
<< <i>They are .91666... gold,
.030000 silver and
the balance copper.
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thank you for the exact metal content!
i was just going by the average definition of "fine" when referring to gold.
now if i saw .999 gold toning like that my first thought would be what in the
heck is on the surface of the coin... but "fine" gold... it could very well be
the copper/silver combined with other environmental factors... >>
At the time the AGE's were introduced, the Kruggerrand was the most popular bullion coin and they were 22K so the US matched the K-rand fineness in an effort to compete with them.
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<< <i>They are .91666... gold,
.030000 silver and
the balance copper.
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thank you for the exact metal content!
i was just going by the average definition of "fine" when referring to gold.
now if i saw .999 gold toning like that my first thought would be what in the
heck is on the surface of the coin... but "fine" gold... it could very well be
the copper/silver combined with other environmental factors... >>
I have some Buffaloes that are toning, it does look above the surface so I am guessing it has something to the with the rinse and the Mint and that is interacting with the air and oxidizing some how. >>
There goes my dreams of ever owning a perfect coin.
Leo
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The prrof gold eagles look awesome when this happens.
<< <i>Clearly, these coins were dipped. >>
Clearly you don't know what your talking about. No dipping on mine.
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<< <i>Clearly, these coins were dipped. >>
Clearly you don't know what your talking about. No dipping on mine. >>
Nor mine!!
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<< <i>Clearly, these coins were dipped. >>
Clearly you don't know what your talking about. No dipping on mine. >>
Nor mine!! >>
Mine also.
<< <i>looks like residue from dipping. Did you dip it before submitting it? >>
no it was not dipped. submitted 8 coins in mint packaging as soon as i got them from the mint.
over the last year i sold 5. just looked at the 3 i have left and the 70 is toning while the 2 69`s are not toning.