<< <i>Mintage is not important---survival rate is all that matters. For example, look at many of the last of the classic US gold coins. Many had high mintages but were virtually all melted with only small number of survivors. >>
Why is survival rate important in a thread titled "What's the lowest mintage coin you own?"
1864 Sm. Motto 2c - ? (I think I saw an estimate of 35,000 somewhere)
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<< <i>Mintage is not important---survival rate is all that matters. For example, look at many of the last of the classic US gold coins. Many had high mintages but were virtually all melted with only small number of survivors. >>
Why is survival rate important in a thread titled "What's the lowest mintage coin you own?" >>
Unfortunately, most new collectors (and a few older collectors who should know better) equate rarity with mintage. In many cases, this is true but not in all cases.
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
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Mintage: 2,000....1,450 melt by the mint.....hundreds more melt privately.
I also have a lower mintage Israel 1964 'Bank of Israel' 50L proof with a lower mintage. Had several much lower mintage coins that were sold too. A couple Papua-New Guinea matte proofs with mintages of 100 pieces each come to mind. >>
Yeah, I know. This foreign stuff is a great place to play though and might catch fire (the African gold particularly) sometime. >>
I agree 100%. There are world gold proofs from the late 1800's that you can pick up for several hundred dollars. Cant touch an 18something U.S. gold proof for less than 10k. And from a pure collector standpoint, there are some beautiful designs on world coins, that even if they dont experience a meteoric rise in value, are still gorgeous coins.
The lowest mintage (but certainly not the rarest) coin that I own would have to be the 1867 Liberty Seated half dime, of which I have two, with a mintage of just 8000 pieces, plus 625 Proofs. Now the rarest coin that I own would be one of several R7 half dimes in my collection, with just 4-12 pieces extant.
They that can give up essential Liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither Liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin
1997-W Jackie Robinson Uncirculated commemorative gold - I think 5,174 is the mintage.
This forum presupposes that we know the mintage, of course, but what of those scarce coins that are errors or varieties for which the mint was unable or unwilling to state a mintage? I have a 1983 double die cent, 1942/1 Dime, 1982 Dime no mintmark, 1970-S small date cent, 1938-D/S Nickel, and a 1979-P Dollar near date, but I don't know their mintages.
Jackie Robinson Unc $5. I have the four coin set with the PF and UNC $5 and $1. I also have the Baseball .311 Set with the PF, Patch, Card, adn Pin. To complement all this I purchased the Jackie Robinson Medal.
Was my 1895 quarter eagle (6,199). But as of 10 minutes ago, courtesy of the bay, its now a 1905 Proof nickel (2,152). I just got 3 times as rare for less than $200, sweet deal!
US would probably be an 1866 dime 8000 mintage 2 1804 dimes (1 of each type) 8265 mintage
Darkside would be any of several GB Pennies or Half-Pennies with 3 to 10 KNOWN specimens...... (mintage unknown on die varieties) also 1943 IRELAND Florin 35-40 known specimens
nothin big here myself..., my 1909 proof indian cent---a 1910 and 1913 matte proof lincolns fall under some low mintage to me oh and my 1938 proof set (minus tha dime)
everything in life is but merely on loan to us by our appreciation....lose your appreciation and see
Rome's mint records for silver denarii from mid-January through mid-April of the year 69 AD don't survive, so I don't know what the exact mintage of my latest purchase was, but suffice it to say, it's rare.
The empero Otho ruled for only about three months (during the aforementioned time period), before coming up on the losing end of a civil war and committing suicide. 69 AD was a turbulent time, and the period is known as "The Year of Four Emperors".
It's kind of fascinating to own a coin that was struck during a three-month window, nearly 2,000 years ago.
As to the other rulers from The Year of Four Emperors, I have the rest. Otho was the toughest, but the others were not exactly easy.
Well, I own a coin that is described as "unique" so I guess it may well be a mintage of one. It is graded as a Proof 62 1850 $20 gold piece. The coin is described on CoinFacts.com under "Significant Examples:" CoinFacts notes Circulation strikes as 1,170,261 and as to Proofs:"Unique?" Breen wrote of this coin once in the possession of C.W. Green as one of possibly several Presentation Pieces a/k/a "proofs" in his book cataloguing gold proofs. He states he never saw it himself, but referenced reports that Green had such a coin. (Click on the link below the photo of my coin and my thumb for the CoinFacts description.)
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As for me... don't know... and thats okay.
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<< <i>Mintage is not important---survival rate is all that matters. For example, look at many of the last of the classic US gold coins. Many had high mintages but were virtually all melted with only small number of survivors. >>
Why is survival rate important in a thread titled "What's the lowest mintage coin you own?"
1864 Sm. Motto 2c - ? (I think I saw an estimate of 35,000 somewhere)
<< <i>
<< <i>Mintage is not important---survival rate is all that matters. For example, look at many of the last of the classic US gold coins. Many had high mintages but were virtually all melted with only small number of survivors. >>
Why is survival rate important in a thread titled "What's the lowest mintage coin you own?"
Unfortunately, most new collectors (and a few older collectors who should know better) equate rarity with mintage. In many cases, this is true but not in all cases.
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
<< <i>Off the top of my head, this one:
Mintage: 2,000....1,450 melt by the mint.....hundreds more melt privately.
I also have a lower mintage Israel 1964 'Bank of Israel' 50L proof with a lower mintage. Had several much lower mintage coins that were sold too. A couple Papua-New Guinea matte proofs with mintages of 100 pieces each come to mind. >>
Approx Survivors: 100-200....Approx Demand: 5-10
Just busting your chops..LOL
<< <i> Approx Survivors: 100-200....Approx Demand: 5-10
Just busting your chops..LOL >>
Yeah, I know. This foreign stuff is a great place to play though and might catch fire (the African gold particularly) sometime.
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<< <i> Approx Survivors: 100-200....Approx Demand: 5-10
Just busting your chops..LOL >>
Yeah, I know. This foreign stuff is a great place to play though and might catch fire (the African gold particularly) sometime. >>
I agree 100%. There are world gold proofs from the late 1800's that you can pick up for several hundred dollars. Cant touch an 18something U.S. gold proof for less than 10k. And from a pure collector standpoint, there are some beautiful designs on world coins, that even if they dont experience a meteoric rise in value, are still gorgeous coins.
This forum presupposes that we know the mintage, of course, but what of those scarce coins that are errors or varieties for which the mint was unable or unwilling to state a mintage? I have a 1983 double die cent, 1942/1 Dime, 1982 Dime no mintmark, 1970-S small date cent, 1938-D/S Nickel, and a 1979-P Dollar near date, but I don't know their mintages.
I also have the Baseball .311 Set with the PF, Patch, Card, adn Pin. To complement
all this I purchased the Jackie Robinson Medal.
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I have 5 California fractionals that run less than 50 pieces each.
State regional:
I have a unique Leadville, Colorado Merchant token from early last century.
US authorized:
Three dollar gold-1866 AU-50, 4,000 minted.
US bullion:
2006 W 1/2 oz platinum uncirculated, about 2,482.
Ren
2 1878 7TF Rev of 78 Proofs, est mintage 250-300
1 1909 VDB Proof, est mintage 420
<< <i>Not US authorized:
I have 5 California fractionals that run less than 50 pieces each.
State regional:
I have a unique Leadville, Colorado Merchant token from early last century.
US authorized:
Three dollar gold-1866 AU-50, 4,000 minted.
US bullion:
2006 W 1/2 oz platinum uncirculated, about 2,482.
Ren >>
I forgot about my 1874 1c proof at 700 pieces to supercede my 1866 $3.
Ren
Yeah more bullion but pretty anyway.
J
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<< <i>1864 Proof Indian Cent......without the L......about 150 or so...minted. >>
Excellent, excellent one. Not buying one of those years back when I saw one is among my top regrets. I was THAT CLOSE to pulling the trigger too.
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Regular production 1804 25¢- mintage 6738
and my 1990 no s proof....not many of those either.
What else?
A few hundred graded, probably a few thousand known.
My Adolph A. Weinman signature
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Miles
Lafayette Grading Set
1881 Proof IHC - 3,575 minted...
1870 s gold quarter eagle($2 1/2) with original mintage of 16,000, but with only 120-130 known to survive presently.
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<< <i>1885-CC morgan, 228,000. >>
Fred, Las Vegas, NV
1801 Dollar- 54,454 original mintage due to heavy export melting and attrition many are gone forever
Fred, Las Vegas, NV
2 1804 dimes (1 of each type) 8265 mintage
Darkside would be any of several GB Pennies or Half-Pennies with 3 to 10 KNOWN specimens...... (mintage unknown on die varieties)
also 1943 IRELAND Florin 35-40 known specimens
5,000 minted
2,500 released to the public. still in the original ICG holder. Not the greatest coin on earth but my lowest mintage
If it ain't about the money lord knows i've gone insane
my 1909 proof indian cent---a 1910 and 1913 matte proof lincolns fall under some low mintage to me
oh and my 1938 proof set (minus tha dime)
Mines a PCGS VF25 - Pop 3 with 6 lower and 43 higher, total PCGS pop of 52.
My #1 Low Ball Peace Dollar Set
The empero Otho ruled for only about three months (during the aforementioned time period), before coming up on the losing end of a civil war and committing suicide. 69 AD was a turbulent time, and the period is known as "The Year of Four Emperors".
It's kind of fascinating to own a coin that was struck during a three-month window, nearly 2,000 years ago.
As to the other rulers from The Year of Four Emperors, I have the rest. Otho was the toughest, but the others were not exactly easy.
First there was Galba,
Then Otho, above,
Then Vitellius,
Then, finally, Vespasian.
1885
Box of 20
The coin is described on CoinFacts.com under "Significant Examples:" CoinFacts notes Circulation strikes as 1,170,261 and as to Proofs:"Unique?" Breen wrote of this coin once in the possession of C.W. Green as one of possibly several Presentation Pieces a/k/a "proofs" in his book cataloguing gold proofs. He states he never saw it himself, but referenced reports that Green had such a coin. (Click on the link below the photo of my coin and my thumb for the CoinFacts description.)