I have a feeling everything he said and did was ready and waiting, regardless of what you did. As an eBay user with over 2500 pos. and not one neg. feedback, I hope I don't list anything he wants to buy. Maybe I'll block him before I resume listing.
It is health that is real wealth, not pieces of gold and silver. Gandhi.
I collect all 20th century series except gold including those series that ended there.
<< <i>I wish there was an option, as a seller, to block all bids from bidders with private feedback. >>
That would be nice. As it stands now, whenever I'm surfing Ebay and notice someone with private feedback, I block them. My block list is very, very long.
“When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.” — Benjamin Franklin
My icon IS my coin. It is a gem 1949 FBL Franklin.
I couldn't believe my own eyes after reading his Feedback...he reg'd you for that coin which he received within three days of his buying it ? I also live in Florida. It usually takes me four or five days to get anything shipped to me.
I also couldn't believe that nut job called you scum ...Glad I don't have to deal with people like that. I don't sell on Ebay but I'll link this thread to my friends that do.
Edited to add:
I didn't read the full litany and am completely at a loss for words by his email to you.
Sick Dratsab.
Mike Hayes ~~~~~~~~~~~~ Coin collecting is not a hobby, it's an obsession !
Hard to understand this bidder's response/behavior especially seeing as he had return privileges. IMO it wasn't a bad buy at all. If its remorse just sender back or even use your return privileges before its shipped. In the end it looks like the bidder screwed himself the most.
<< <i>when a bidder is blocked by a seller on e-bay, is the bidder notified that a block has been placed? it appears so, since he was aware and responded to russ' block. >>
No, the bidder is not informed when they are blocked by someone. Russ indicated that the guy has bid on his items before. He probably bid and noticed he was blocked. A coincidence.
“When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.” — Benjamin Franklin
My icon IS my coin. It is a gem 1949 FBL Franklin.
<< <i>This may turn into a serious situation. One thing for sure: this person has mental issues. He threatened Greg. Isn't that against the law....somewhere, somehow?? >>
That's what I'm thinking. His verbiage went way beyond the realm of venting dissatisfaction and crossed into personal threats. You could probably have some legal options to keep him at bay if you so choose. I myself wouldn't hesitate one bit to report his words and actions to the local authorities in his city. Even if they don't do squat, they were at least informed.
I would almost be tempted to show up at his door and see how many threats he makes with a broken jaw.
OK, let's not dis California. Remember where your slabs come from!
Personally I found it, at first funny, then sad when I read this guys response. Could any logical person act the way he acted?
So I went out & found this....
Moderate symptoms of Alzheimer's disease can include:
• Increased memory loss - forgetfulness extends to forgetting old facts, such as past career and names of friends • Shortened attention span • Difficulty organizing thoughts • Deficits in intellect and reasoning (for example, poor judgment, forgetting manners) • Problems with language, including speech, reading, comprehension, and writing • Inability to learn new things or cope with unexpected situations • Repetitive statements, movements, or questions • Difficulty recognizing friends and family • Restlessness, agitation, anxiety, tearfulness and wandering, especially in the late afternoon or evening (called "sundowning") • Hallucinations, delusions, suspiciousness, or paranoia • Lack of concern for appearance and hygiene • Loss of impulse control (for example, sloppy table manners, undressing at inappropriate times or places, using vulgar language) • Difficulty performing tasks such as using the shower and toilet, or following written notes
The only time i ever got a similar recation from a buyer was when I stated in an auction that a graded pcgs coin was pq and possibly a grade higher. Grading is so subjective that if the buyer doesn't agree with your assessment after he recieves the coin, it leaves a bad taste in the buyers mouth and they get bitter. I would suggest to all that you should have great pictures, state the grade and let the buyer make his own assessment and bid accordingly.
He lives in Califonria, the society in that state is failing everyone!
<< <i>OK, let's not dis California. Remember where your slabs come from!
I'm just saying..... >>
FYI Ajia I'm from California (it looks like you may be also), . Where I am in NorCal.. State, Local and EDU systems and the products like this guy that are sometimes created, need to be dissed! (sorry I didn'y mean to get political, I know, I know there are problems at city halll everywhere!)
<< <i>This may turn into a serious situation. One thing for sure: this person has mental issues. He threatened Greg. Isn't that against the law....somewhere, somehow?? >>
That's what I'm thinking. His verbiage went way beyond the realm of venting dissatisfaction and crossed into personal threats. You could probably have some legal options to keep him at bay if you so choose. I myself wouldn't hesitate one bit to report his words and actions to the local authorities in his city. Even if they don't do squat, they were at least informed. >>
I was just thinking the same thing. I suspect that you could have a nice officer visit his house and tell him in no uncertain terms that further threatening emails would not be tolerated. They do that sort of thing on COPS all the time
The more I read robohog2000's words, the more I think that something snapped in his brain. It just isn't normal behavior. The coin was won on Sunday, shipped on Monday, and received on Wednesday -- exemplary seller performance by any measure. Even if one were to assume that greghansen is a complete n00b and selling overgraded garbage, the situation could have been completely resolved by the buyer simply saying "I'm sorry, but this coin does not meet with my satisfaction, and I'd like to return it" -- and greghansen would have taken it back, and that'd be the end of it.
All of the swearing and vitriole can only indicate a seriously disturbed and deranged mind. Maybe he went off his meds, or maybe something broke in his brain. He needs help from someone, somewhere, and hopefully he has someone close to him that recognizes what has happened before this guy causes damage "in real life".
I would contact the local police where he is located as those last email's are more then enough to show that this moron has gone off the deep end. With luck they will show up at his door with a couple of nice gentlemen in white coats bringing him a nice LONG sleeved jacket. Seriously I would definitely report him if for no other reason then to have it on record. I am not knowledgeable in the matter but wouldn't the email's be considered a form of harassment?
This is not the first time this wack job went off. Check out ebay item Item number: 170083917970
Read from the bottom up.
Q: I think you should share the ebay name of the person who left that eloquint message for you. I'm sure the rest of us would love to know the name of this person so we can look forward to dealing with him. Feb-25-07 A: Montana, Okay, I will - robohog2000. - Ken - Q: An amazing auction. You state: "you know I will like this coin". You don't even know me. But you know... How do you do that? You state I should GRAB it at far below it's value. What is the mystical VALUE of the coin? Ah, never mind, too much bu11shet. (edited)
<< <i>OK, let's not dis California. Remember where your slabs come from!
Personally I found it, at first funny, then sad when I read this guys response. Could any logical person act the way he acted?
So I went out & found this....
Moderate symptoms of Alzheimer's disease can include:
• Increased memory loss - forgetfulness extends to forgetting old facts, such as past career and names of friends • Shortened attention span • Difficulty organizing thoughts • Deficits in intellect and reasoning (for example, poor judgment, forgetting manners) • Problems with language, including speech, reading, comprehension, and writing • Inability to learn new things or cope with unexpected situations • Repetitive statements, movements, or questions • Difficulty recognizing friends and family • Restlessness, agitation, anxiety, tearfulness and wandering, especially in the late afternoon or evening (called "sundowning") • Hallucinations, delusions, suspiciousness, or paranoia • Lack of concern for appearance and hygiene • Loss of impulse control (for example, sloppy table manners, undressing at inappropriate times or places, using vulgar language) • Difficulty performing tasks such as using the shower and toilet, or following written notes
I got a short E-Bay message from this guy when he tried to bid on one of my auctions. Wanted to know why he was blocked. I was going to answer, but didn't need the hastle.
It is not exactly cheating, I prefer to consider it creative problem solving!!!
Greg, the best thing you can do (GOOSE said it 1st):
Contact this nutballs ISP and give them a copy of the profane messages. As far as I know EVERY ISP has a clause in the Terms and Conditions such that when a user accepts the ISP's user agreement, they are specifically prohibited from sending profane/harrassing email.
His ISP will boot him, which will amount to a major hassle for him and will be sweet revenge for you.
BTW-Greg has handled this admirably.
"Wars are really ugly! They're dirty and they're cold. I don't want nobody to shoot me in the foxhole." Mary
Seconded. Greg could have flamed this guy to kingdom come, and few here would blame him, given the abuse he's taken. Instead, he's been absolutely professional each step of the way -- indeed, even still offering the refund after the initial profanity filled missive. He's taught a clinic here on good customer service at all costs.
By reading this thread....... I wonder if he has actually counted the number of eBay sellers that have now blocked him!~
Maybe....just maybe....by seeing his words in print here, as well as Forum member's reactions, he just might realize how "out of line" he was. I doubt it...but we can always hope!
Or,...he could just print it out and have his Dr. use it as a reason to increase his medication dosage!
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<< <i>He just needs a hug
Hug nothing...he needs a Quaalude!
That reminds me,
"I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal labotomy."
As an eBay user with over 2500 pos. and not one neg. feedback, I hope I don't list anything
he wants to buy. Maybe I'll block him before I resume listing.
I collect all 20th century series except gold including those series that ended there.
Al
<< <i>I wish there was an option, as a seller, to block all bids from bidders with private feedback. >>
That would be nice. As it stands now, whenever I'm surfing Ebay and notice someone with private feedback, I block them. My block list is very, very long.
My icon IS my coin. It is a gem 1949 FBL Franklin.
I also couldn't believe that nut job called you scum ...Glad I don't have to deal with people like that.
I don't sell on Ebay but I'll link this thread to my friends that do.
Edited to add:
I didn't read the full litany and am completely at a loss for words by his email to you.
Sick Dratsab.
~~~~~~~~~~~~
Coin collecting is not a hobby, it's an obsession !
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<< <i>when a bidder is blocked by a seller on e-bay, is the bidder notified that a block has been placed? it appears so, since he was aware and responded to russ' block. >>
No, the bidder is not informed when they are blocked by someone. Russ indicated that the guy has bid on his items before. He probably bid and noticed he was blocked. A coincidence.
My icon IS my coin. It is a gem 1949 FBL Franklin.
I give away money. I collect money.
I don’t love money . I do love the Lord God.
<< <i>Obviously, we as a society have failed that poor bidder. >>
He lives in Califonria, the society in that state is failing everyone!
Rob
"Those guys weren't Fathers they were...Mothers."
<< <i>This may turn into a serious situation. One thing for sure: this person has mental issues. He threatened Greg. Isn't that against the law....somewhere, somehow?? >>
That's what I'm thinking. His verbiage went way beyond the realm of venting dissatisfaction and crossed into personal threats. You could probably have some legal options to keep him at bay if you so choose. I myself wouldn't hesitate one bit to report his words and actions to the local authorities in his city. Even if they don't do squat, they were at least informed.
I would almost be tempted to show up at his door and see how many threats he makes with a broken jaw.
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Hey, I am on that list.
Personally I found it, at first funny, then sad when I read this guys response.
Could any logical person act the way he acted?
So I went out & found this....
Moderate symptoms of Alzheimer's disease can include:
• Increased memory loss - forgetfulness extends to forgetting old facts, such as past career and names of friends
• Shortened attention span
• Difficulty organizing thoughts
• Deficits in intellect and reasoning (for example, poor judgment, forgetting manners)
• Problems with language, including speech, reading, comprehension, and writing
• Inability to learn new things or cope with unexpected situations
• Repetitive statements, movements, or questions
• Difficulty recognizing friends and family
• Restlessness, agitation, anxiety, tearfulness and wandering, especially in the late afternoon or evening (called "sundowning")
• Hallucinations, delusions, suspiciousness, or paranoia
• Lack of concern for appearance and hygiene
• Loss of impulse control (for example, sloppy table manners, undressing at inappropriate times or places, using vulgar language)
• Difficulty performing tasks such as using the shower and toilet, or following written notes
I'm just saying.....
<< <i>OK, let's not dis California. Remember where your slabs come from!
I'm just saying..... >>
FYI Ajia I'm from California (it looks like you may be also), . Where I am in NorCal.. State, Local and EDU systems and the products like this guy that are sometimes created, need to be dissed! (sorry I didn'y mean to get political, I know, I know there are problems at city halll everywhere!)
Rob
"Those guys weren't Fathers they were...Mothers."
Whatta jagoff.
Check out my current listings: https://ebay.com/sch/khunt/m.html?_ipg=200&_sop=12&_rdc=1
<< <i>Can anyone tell where in CA this guy is from? I want to make sure that I don't drink the water if I'm passing through the area.
Whatta jagoff. >>
No kidding, I am ready to move!
Rob
"Those guys weren't Fathers they were...Mothers."
<< <i>
<< <i>This may turn into a serious situation. One thing for sure: this person has mental issues. He threatened Greg. Isn't that against the law....somewhere, somehow?? >>
That's what I'm thinking. His verbiage went way beyond the realm of venting dissatisfaction and crossed into personal threats. You could probably have some legal options to keep him at bay if you so choose. I myself wouldn't hesitate one bit to report his words and actions to the local authorities in his city. Even if they don't do squat, they were at least informed.
>>
I was just thinking the same thing. I suspect that you could have a nice officer visit his house and tell him in no uncertain terms that further threatening emails would not be tolerated. They do that sort of thing on COPS all the time
If I only had a dollar for every VAM I have...err...nevermind...I do!!
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All of the swearing and vitriole can only indicate a seriously disturbed and deranged mind. Maybe he went off his meds, or maybe something broke in his brain. He needs help from someone, somewhere, and hopefully he has someone close to him that recognizes what has happened before this guy causes damage "in real life".
<< <i>I just added all bidders that live in California to my blocked bidder list. That'll teach' em
excellent idea. Block an entire state!!!
<< <i>excellent idea. Block an entire state!!!
Some sellers do that to their home states if the local sales tax laws are too difficult or arcane or costly to follow.
Wait, what? California?! Hey now!!
You guys remind me of the TERMINATOR
LOL
<< <i>I added him to my blocked list also. >>
I think you were probably safe anyway. The coins he's bought so far were pretty nice.
<< <i>I just added all bidders that live in California to my blocked bidder list. That'll teach' em
as long as you still accept bidders from NJ that is ok!
myCCset
Seriously I would definitely report him if for no other reason then to have it on record. I am not knowledgeable in the matter but wouldn't the email's be considered a form of harassment?
1969s WCLR-001 counterclash
Read from the bottom up.
Q: I think you should share the ebay name of the person who left that eloquint message for you. I'm sure the rest of us would love to know the name of this person so we can look forward to dealing with him. Feb-25-07
A: Montana, Okay, I will - robohog2000. - Ken -
Q: An amazing auction. You state: "you know I will like this coin". You don't even know me. But you know... How do you do that? You state I should GRAB it at far below it's value. What is the mystical VALUE of the coin? Ah, never mind, too much bu11shet. (edited)
<< <i>OK, let's not dis California. Remember where your slabs come from!
Personally I found it, at first funny, then sad when I read this guys response.
Could any logical person act the way he acted?
So I went out & found this....
Moderate symptoms of Alzheimer's disease can include:
• Increased memory loss - forgetfulness extends to forgetting old facts, such as past career and names of friends
• Shortened attention span
• Difficulty organizing thoughts
• Deficits in intellect and reasoning (for example, poor judgment, forgetting manners)
• Problems with language, including speech, reading, comprehension, and writing
• Inability to learn new things or cope with unexpected situations
• Repetitive statements, movements, or questions
• Difficulty recognizing friends and family
• Restlessness, agitation, anxiety, tearfulness and wandering, especially in the late afternoon or evening (called "sundowning")
• Hallucinations, delusions, suspiciousness, or paranoia
• Lack of concern for appearance and hygiene
• Loss of impulse control (for example, sloppy table manners, undressing at inappropriate times or places, using vulgar language)
• Difficulty performing tasks such as using the shower and toilet, or following written notes
I'm just saying..... >>
You show great restraint and compassion
HE>I
Twitter
<< <i>I was going to answer, but didn't need the hastle. >>
Probably a very good decision.
RJ
<< <i> Welcome, robohog2000 the latest addition to the Collectors Universe forum. >>
Rob
"Those guys weren't Fathers they were...Mothers."
<< <i>Things may get interesting in short order...A "robohog2000" is our newest member. >>
Oh please let it be. I'm having drama withdrawal symptoms.
Contact this nutballs ISP and give them a copy of the profane messages. As far as I know EVERY ISP has a clause in the Terms and Conditions such that when a user accepts the ISP's user agreement, they are specifically prohibited from sending profane/harrassing email.
His ISP will boot him, which will amount to a major hassle for him and will be sweet revenge for you.
BTW-Greg has handled this admirably.
and they're cold.
I don't want nobody to shoot me in the foxhole."
Mary
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<< <i>BTW-Greg has handled this admirably. >>
Seconded. Greg could have flamed this guy to kingdom come, and few here would blame him, given the abuse he's taken. Instead, he's been absolutely professional each step of the way -- indeed, even still offering the refund after the initial profanity filled missive. He's taught a clinic here on good customer service at all costs.
I wonder if he has actually counted the number of eBay sellers that have now blocked him!~
Maybe....just maybe....by seeing his words in print here, as well as Forum member's reactions,
he just might realize how "out of line" he was.
I doubt it...but we can always hope!
Or,...he could just print it out and have his Dr. use it as a reason to increase his medication dosage!
Brian
I LOVE
Usually people like this are little guys hiding behind a keyboard.
Check out my current listings: https://ebay.com/sch/khunt/m.html?_ipg=200&_sop=12&_rdc=1
<< <i>So he signed up - where are his posts? Must be a total chicken to not defend his actions.
Usually people like this are little guys hiding behind a keyboard. >>
My guess is that it is an alt that has already been nuked. I know because I tried twice to sign up as "Consuela" .
This guy does not seem like the type who is at a loss for words.