THE OFFICIAL: How much money have you GIVEN 80sJunkie THREAD

Lothar52

I was only involved on the first 80s rip. I believe that was around 76 dollars.

Edited to say I paid via paypal, received it via the USPS. I still have the box with his name and PO Box attached.

Edited again to say that I do have about half of the packs which I did not touch...if the authorities want PSA to exam them to show they were resealed....we do have that option I guess.

Loth

cohocorp

ryan,
this could be an interesting thread to see just how big the scope of this fiasco really is. i would like to see how much each member was taken for. i didnt partake in the rips so i am at zero.

Onlypsahockey

Thank you Loth for starting this thread.

Guys, please only post here:

1.) Which rips you were involved in run by Gary.

2.) How much $ you sent him.

3.) How you paid him.

This is an attempt to collect vital information.

Please keep all other comments in the numerous other threads available on this topic.

Thanks, Bob C.

EDIT: Feel free to PM me the info if you'd rather.

Bunker

Complete 80's Rip = $74

Late 70's-80's (77-85) = $103

Football Rip = $155

Basketball Rip = $74

Total: = $406 I used Paypal for all

I am going by memory for the lot prices, but I beleive them to be accurate.

julen23

yikes!

ty reno 911 LMFAO

julen

ArnyVee

That's a funny clip!

JasP24

1- 70/80s Football Rip
2-$155
3- PayPal

I have all the cards and wrappers and although the packs were opened.

Jason

Onlypsahockey

Julen,

I'm glad you find $14,000.00 swindled from your fellow board members comical.

Please keep your posts out of this thread.

Bob C.

gumbyfan

I was in the Late 70's Early 80's (77-85) Baseball group rip for $103. I paid via Paypal.

Edited to add that I also have the box he mailed it in along with his return address info. It contains every card I pulled from the packs except for a few of the back cards which weren't worth tearing off of the waxpack that it was glued to.

mkg809

I was in the Late 70's Early 80's (77-85) Baseball group rip for $103. I paid via Paypal.

Ditto

MrG

(2) lots - 70s/80s Football Wax Rip @ $155 per lot = $310 + $14 additional Global Priority to UK = $324.00
(8) lots - 78 Baseball Case Break @ 2x $587.95 (4 lot, box price) = $1175.90

Both using PayPal with credit card transfers

tombo

I strictly became a member to be able to get in on the late 70's early 80's baseball rip and quickly signed up for the latest football rip. I guess that means I'm in for about $258 total.

Onlypsahockey

I believe the 78 Topps BB case break was legit and shipped by BBCEX (much to Gary's chagrin).

Please correct me if I'm wrong.

Bob C.

WinPitcher

Bob

yes, after trying to muscle in on it he was voted down and Steve hart did the shipping.

that is what i have read anyway.

Steve

goose3

there's a simple solution for Future Rips....

Get Steve Hart to join here and put together some cool ones periodically....maybe 1/month.

magellan

I was in the Late 70's Early 80's (77-85) Baseball group rip for $103. I paid via Paypal

Same here, I have packs I didn't open as well.

Goose, Steve is a member here.

Piman58

1) 80's Baseball. 70/80's baseball, 70/80's football, and the basketball rips
2) $408.50
3) Paid by Paypal

Charles

blade35

1. 70's/80's Baseball Rip.

2. $103.00

3. Paypal.

AJ

stown

Why are there several low post count / recent aliases participating in these expensive rips?

I'm not directing this towards anyone in particular, just find it... Um... Odd?

Edited to add:

Nothing against new members or low count posters. At one point, we all started at 0. Just seems kind of overly trust-worthy when they haven't been an active member.

Nothing personal and I apologize in advance if you take this the wrong way.

Stone193

Ryan

I did not participate.

I will say - if somehow this can be handed off to one jurisdiction - and they bring him in for questions.

And if there's fingerprints on the INSIDE of a wrapper - and match his? Well ya got him!

I wish you guys luck - IMO - this guy has done way more than derive a surreptitious profit.

mike

storm888

"Why are there several low post count / recent aliases participating in these expensive rips?"

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Several new folks have commented in other threads that
they participated in the rips because "high-post count"
members were in the mix.

XanaduNow

I was in on the complete 80s rip. I think the cost was around $78. I paid via PayPal.

Stown, I think for most people (myself included), they read the posts here for a while before they actually decide to join and make posts. So while their joined date is recent and their post count may be low I think a lot of people have been reading the boards for a while.

Also, I think there's a great deal of unwarranted trust given to members with high post counts. That clearly was the case with 80sJunkie. People, for the most part, are good-natured and want to believe/trust. I think that we as board have learned an extremely valuable lesson through all this that transcends just future group rips and will hopefully save a lot of people on this board some serious coin in the future, be it rips or just general card trades/purchases.

Arthur

stown

<< <i>I was in on the complete 80s rip. I think the cost was around $78. I paid via PayPal.

Stown, I think for most people (myself included), they read the posts here for a while before they actually decide to join and make posts. So while their joined date is recent and their post count may be low I think a lot of people have been reading the boards for a while.

Also, I think there's a great deal of unwarranted trust given to members with high post counts. That clearly was the case with 80sJunkie. People, for the most part, are good-natured and want to believe/trust. I think that we as board have learned an extremely valuable lesson through all this that transcends just future group rips and will hopefully save a lot of people on this board some serious coin in the future, be it rips or just general card trades/purchases.

Arthur >>



You're an exception, Arthur

For example:

gumbyfan
New Member
Posts: 10
Joined: Jan 2007

MrG
Member
Posts: 81
Joined: Jul 2005

tombo
Member
Posts: 29
Joined: Jan 2007

blade35
Member
Posts: 40
Joined: Jul 2006

Just seems odd that posters who do not participate in community discussions would fork over hundreds of dollars to participate in a community break.

Maybe it's just me....

XanaduNow

<< <i>

<< <i>I was in on the complete 80s rip. I think the cost was around $78. I paid via PayPal.

Stown, I think for most people (myself included), they read the posts here for a while before they actually decide to join and make posts. So while their joined date is recent and their post count may be low I think a lot of people have been reading the boards for a while.

Also, I think there's a great deal of unwarranted trust given to members with high post counts. That clearly was the case with 80sJunkie. People, for the most part, are good-natured and want to believe/trust. I think that we as board have learned an extremely valuable lesson through all this that transcends just future group rips and will hopefully save a lot of people on this board some serious coin in the future, be it rips or just general card trades/purchases.

Arthur >>



You're an exception, Arthur

For example:

gumbyfan
New Member
Posts: 10
Joined: Jan 2007

MrG
Member
Posts: 81
Joined: Jul 2005

tombo
Member
Posts: 29
Joined: Jan 2007

blade35
Member
Posts: 40
Joined: Jul 2006

Just seems odd that posters who do not participate in community discussions would fork over hundreds of dollars to participate in a community break.

Maybe it's just me.... >>



I see your point. Maybe they're just intimidated by the thoughtful, well formed, cohesive and overall excellent quality of posters like myself. I know I would be intimidated by me if I wasn't me.

"Me fail English? That's unpossible!"

Arthur

gumbyfan

<< <i>Why are there several low post count / recent aliases participating in these expensive rips?

I'm not directing this towards anyone in particular, just find it... Um... Odd?

Edited to add:

Nothing against new members or low count posters. At one point, we all started at 0. Just seems kind of overly trust-worthy when they haven't been an active member.

Nothing personal and I apologize in advance if you take this the wrong way. >>



No worries about us taking your comments the wrong way. My situation was just simply that I was starting at 0. I lurked on these boards for a number of months prior to joining. I have a friend who mentioned the late 70's early 80's rip so I finally broke down and decided to set up an account so I could participate. It sounded like fun and since all the packs were supposed to come from BBCE, I wasn't too concerned. I guess I was just a little too naive...

It probably wouldn't stop me the next time, though. If everything is split up by Steve Hart and shipped out, I'm in like Flynn...

mcholke

Complete 80's Rip = $74

Late 70's-80's (77-85) = $103

Paypal

gumbyfan

<< <i>Ryan

I did not participate.

I will say - if somehow this can be handed off to one jurisdiction - and they bring him in for questions.

And if there's fingerprints on the INSIDE of a wrapper - and match his? Well ya got him!

I wish you guys luck - IMO - this guy has done way more than derive a surreptitious profit.

mike >>



That is a great idea, Mike.

Just a thought here, but do any of you think that Topps would be interested in catching this pack factory? After all, he is repackaging their product illegally and selling it as if it was an original package that they produced.

I don't mean to hijack the thread, but I thought I'd make the suggestion.

storm888

Since the high-post-count folks "believed," it is easy to
see why the new folks would be sucked-in, too.

A good con relies on convincing folks who already have
credibility within a group. Once those folks are in, they
do most of the selling for the con by their mere presence.

leftofdial

I was in for: October 2006 80's Baseball $76.50 (paypal)
and also the Feb 2007 Football $155 (paypal)
Total 231.50 total

low post counts don't necessarrily equate to low following of the board/ hobby nor does it indicate anything about one's discretionary income

storm888

"low post counts don't necessarrily equate to low following of the board/ hobby nor does it indicate anything about one's discretionary income "

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That is absolutely correct.

I think the original question was more about
how/why someone would be likely to jump in.

There may have been "a shill inquiry" component
to the question, as well. I thought about that
early on, but dismissed it; that element was not
necessary to make the con work.

RipublicaninMass

<< <i>
There may have been "a shill inquiry" component
to the question, as well. I thought about that
early on, but dismissed it; that element was not
necessary to make the con work. >>




Well yes if 80's stood to make some cake, get rid of old invetory, replace invetory with bbcx material, etc and was 2 or 3 (alias) short of having every1 paid...

stown

<< <i>low post counts don't necessarrily equate to low following of the board/ hobby nor does it indicate anything about one's discretionary income >>



I never doubted that, hence my numerous disclaimers.

I'm not bashing nor accusing you of anything. I'm asking if you would please explain your rational for doing the rips, being a "long time listener, first time caller" kind of poster

I appreciate your insight in advance.

storm888

Regarding Payment Collections:

In one of the rips, I recall that somebody questioned
the "wise nature" of sending the money to the original
organizer.

Was Gary the poster who initially steered the group away
from the original organizer on the issue of safe-payments?

That question may have already been answered, but I
cannot find it.

jonnybro

i was in the 70' football rip which was $148
and the current basketball rip which gary said he would refund me after i sent the packs back.
keep ya posted.

blade35

Why do I participate in the Rips?
Well, I was in the '75T mini--no problems.
I was in the Hockey rip--no problems.
I did the 70/80 BB rip--because the first 2 rips that I was in went off w/o a hitch and I was hoping for some good PSA 10s.

Why is my post count low?
Because I don't feel like I have to add my 2c into every topic to pad my numbers. I like to keep my posts on the topic and if I can add value to the topic, than I post.

I was reading these boards for a while before I joined. Because, I've been on the fence for a long time on grading cards. Being a collector for over 30 years, I never felt it was necessary. However, since I wanted to start selling some of my BB cards it seemed necessary to get them graded to get a decent price.

AJ

leftofdial

stown,
I understand that you aren't bashing anyone and absolutely not accusing any of us low posters, but rather trying to gain insight on why us newbies would go in on it. Here's mine:

My collecting focus has recently gravitated towards collecting unopened packs. I have some vintage boxes, but don't really get a ton of joy out of them. So they just sit in the closet, swaddled in bubblewrap and an outer cardboard box. At least I can take a look at my single packs from time to time , whether it be a 86-87 fleer basketball pack or a super common, costs more to ship it than it's worth pack.
At the time, it seemed 80's Junkie had some decent credibility on here, and most of those packs were things no one would tamper with anyway. And these rips were an ideal way to get a pack from each year, especially when I am just starting on this endevor and also from a source( this forum) that I trust much more than the internet auction sites. 80 bucks for a complete run of 80's baseball was an absolute bargain (if they were what I thought I was paying for) and so was the $155 for the football packs which were supposed to be coming from one of the number one dealers in all of mankind's history-Steve Hart. Plus, if I ever wanted to or needed to sell them, I knew that I could do so knowing that they were legit and I wasn't decieving anyone, intentionally or not. When I saw the first post about "stop the vintage rips" my heart sank. My hobby is one of my escapes, and now even my escape is somewhat tainted since my "unopened" packs for the most part have a bunch of crap in them. Now I really don't even want to look at them, and that is the last thing I wanted.
I have some money to blow on the hobby, but not to spend on things that make me feel that way. I also love to read the forum, reading almost every post just for entertainment value. And of course I learn things too.
I'm not even sure when I joined, but the 10/06 baseball rip was the first rip going since I did join, and I felt like a little kid at christmas when I got my box of all the packs. Same with the football one. I hope that we are able to organize these in the future, and I will definately participate. I missed the basketball on, it filled up too soon!
I'll chime in every once in a while, but won't ever be too concerned about my posts count. When I do, I try to add something to the discussion, and not just post a smiley face or a semi-funny off-topic one liner. I know this topic is supposed to be about the total $$ we have passed through 80's junkies hands, so even this post seems like it strays from the intention.
And there are the inner workings of my hampster in a spinning wheel-fueled brain!

bigfische

80s baseball and 70/80s football

paypal

231.55

MrG

stown,

Ditto loftof's comments.

>I had disposable income.
>Seemed like a fun way to do a "group event", and get some old cards I normally would not go after.
>Old/Long timers were supporting the event.
>Product was coming from reputable source.

BTW, Apologize for any hurtful/undeserved comments from Thursday night/Friday morning.

MrG

CDsNuts

I'm in for $155 in the FB rip and $148 in the basketball rip. While Gary said he would refund for the basketball, I have some doubts in my mind when it comes to me in particular for obvious reasons. I'd prefer to hold onto them now for the time being until I can have them authenticated.

Lee

Bkritz

I did the Late 70's-80's (77-85) = $103

This is all sad. If Gary had any integrity, he would pay us back, even if it took a long time.

I won't hold my breath though.

stown

<< <i>I try to add something to the discussion, and not just post a smiley face or a semi-funny off-topic one liner >>



Indeed.



Thanks for the perspective.

It's like guys you barely know show up to your party. All are welcomed but at least introduce yourself.

RedRomad275

I was in the Late 70's Early 80's (77-85) Baseball group rip for $103. I paid via Paypal.

Ditto

Alfonz24

<< <i>I was in the Late 70's Early 80's (77-85) Baseball group rip for $103. I paid via Paypal.

>>



Same with me. Was gonna join the football rip but with the crap from the baseball rip I opted out.

Alfonz24

SidePocket

77-85 baseball rip
76-85 football rip
70s/80s basketball rip

Maybe $400 total, via PayPal.

Was having a great time til all this came out.

As a fairly new member, why would I do the rips with strangers? Weird as it sounds, you guys don't seem like strangers. Well, maybe Rich G.

neenish

1.) Which rips you were involved in run by Gary. 78bb. Still haven't received any information on shipping nor my packs.

2.) How much $ you sent him. $147.00

3.) How you paid him. Paypal.

4.) Post count is low since I'm more of a lurker, reading what's going on in the collecting community. If I posted once every other day since I joined, I'd have closer to 1000 posts.

MikeyLikesIt

1.) I was involved in the 1st complete 80's rip

2.) Paid him around $75

3,) via Paypal

mikescardcloset

1- 70/80s Football Rip
2-$155
3- PayPal

I have all the cards and wrappers and although the packs were opened.

Mike.

mets

Hello all,

I would have liked to participate in some of the breaks but felt I was too new for some of them and too poor for the others. I would have taken some of the 78's, but I went on vacation the week that was put together. I do have a couple of questions though for those of you that did participate.

Did Gary send these all out using USPS or did he use others Fex/ex UPS as well? Also if you purchased a full box in the 75's did Steve send that directly or did that pass through Gary's hands as well. I would assume the rips like 80's Gary is the one who collated the runs for everyone?


George

zef204

$149.65 - 78's shipped from Steve Hart
$155.00 - 76/89 FB Rip
$103.00 - 77/85 BB Rip
$76.50 - 80's BB rip

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$484.15 total

$334.50 in items Gary Shipped out.

Paid all via PayPal.

All shipped via USPS

zef204

By my calculations Gary collected $14,055 from everyone involved in the rips not including the cost of his own lots.

BigRedMachine

<< <i>By my calculations Gary collected $14,055 from everyone involved in the rips not including the cost of his own lots. >>





I'm glad I missed out on these now, or I would be absolutely livid.