So an alledged error regular circulated card is going for $200 but a box is $40? In theory, you could buy 5 boxes and probably pull 3 or 4 of these cards?
: scratches head :
I don't get it.
So basically my kid won't be able to go to college, but at least I'll have a set where the three most expensive cards are of a player I despise ~ CDsNuts
Anyone want to make a wager that card will be on eBay signed by all three notiables (with a COA from GEM) some day?
So basically my kid won't be able to go to college, but at least I'll have a set where the three most expensive cards are of a player I despise ~ CDsNuts
So an alledged error regular circulated card is going for $200 but a box is $40? In theory, you could buy 5 boxes and probably pull 3 or 4 of these cards?
: scratches head :
I don't get it. >>
cause you missed it, its over!! Card Crashed like Doubleclick stock.....
someone should do a intraday price graph for this card....it would be a little tuff because many current high bidders put there bid in Tuesday morning, but they wont win for a couple days, when the buyers realize how foolish they have been...i wonder if many of these transactions will ever be completed....
I have not clicked on this thread til now. I was curious to see why there are 5 pages of responses to the thread title. After reading about the money these are going for I dont know if I should laugh or just shake my head. I just dont get it...
I don't know if anyone has thought of this but I heard it on XM this morning. Is it true that you aren't supposed to be able to profit from the Presidents image except for charity? If that's true then Topps could have an issue. I just got a look at this card and it's not really that impressive. Especially if it's not an error. Is it me or is anyone else getting tired of manufactured error cards?
Red
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<< <i>I don't know if anyone has thought of this but I heard it on XM this morning. Is it true that you aren't supposed to be able to profit from the Presidents image except for charity? If that's true then Topps could have an issue. I just got a look at this card and it's not really that impressive. Especially if it's not an error. Is it me or is anyone else getting tired of manufactured error cards?
Red >>
good point, Topps may have a problem on their hands....seems like a pretty sneaky thing they pulled this year....But after the Gordon "error" (done 100% on purpose), topps had to come up with something else this year to top that....i guess we can look foward to a Topps Stunt every February now....
In yesterdays daily news it stated that they (Topps) needed White House approval and did not get it. Maybe that is why the run up was as intense as it is.
The whole President angle take this on a potentially different course. They still seem to be going through the roof. Did see a few on Naxcom for $36.00
I couldn't help myself. Picked up a box last night at Walmart. I actually like the set, besides the "Rookie Card" logo that is on all the stuff now. Neat inserts. Who knows how long this will go on. I figured it would have calmed down by this morning but it doesn't look that way!
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I guess the word still hasn't gotten out about this card, even though there's over 2,700 Jeter's on Ebay. The Jeter's nearing the end of their auction are all still in the $100+ range. Amazing!!! If the Jumbo boxes I'm waiting on arrive in time, I'll put my Jeter's up for .99 and see what they bring in a 1 day auction. Of course they'll probably arrive just as the feeding frenzy cools off
<< <i>I don't know if anyone has thought of this but I heard it on XM this morning. Is it true that you aren't supposed to be able to profit from the Presidents image except for charity? If that's true then Topps could have an issue. I just got a look at this card and it's not really that impressive. Especially if it's not an error. Is it me or is anyone else getting tired of manufactured error cards?
Red >>
I thougt the same thing. Bush and then Mantle is copyrighted or licensed. Hmm.
Had to join the craziness so I went to a card shop at lunch. Hobby Boxes were $55 and he had 6. Boxes were selling for $90 and I was going to gamble but settled for a box and a $10 jumbo pack. I bought $66 worth of packs. Pulled a Red and White one. My card wasnt listed in searches on ebay after 1/2 a hour and I knew the market would get flooded and it was 12:00 so I sold them on Naxcom for $25 and $50. So those two cards paid for the whole box. Sadly there wasnt anything special in there but I got a few Dodgers for free !! Whats funny is one of the guys I sold to on Naxcom is someone who buys alot of cards and flips them and has been around awhile. He should know whats up. Crazy
I think it's interesting that I posted about this card on February 15 and no one seemed to care at all. It's crazy how these things develop and take on a life of their own.
Personally, I don't really care one way or the other.
Now, if it was a Barry Bonds card with Willie Mays and Al Gore, maybe then I'd buy a box or two.
Edited to say: there's a really interesting article in the economics of fads, if someone's smart enough to do the research. It'd be *really* interesting to see how the prices for this card increased and decreased. I'd guess it was a $1 for a while, slowly climbed as it gained a little traction, then took off when it hit the mainstream media. It's going to crash pretty hard (maybe already) but will always remain one of the most desirable cards from the set. (Just like the FF card, I'd say).
Topps has no problem with the Mantle estate they have a contract with them, that is why you see all the mantle inserts. The Bush angle though could get interesting.
<< I don't know if anyone has thought of this but I heard it on XM this morning. Is it true that you aren't supposed to be able to profit from the Presidents image except for charity? If that's true then Topps could have an issue. I just got a look at this card and it's not really that impressive. Especially if it's not an error. Is it me or is anyone else getting tired of manufactured error cards?
Red >>
The attorney's on this forum can probably answer this better but I think using these images (Bush-Mantle) constitutes "fair use" and are not subject to the same restrictions as a card which features one or two players, for example. They are in the background, just like a background shot of the crowd and the mfg. obviously photoshop'd the image.
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There have been over 1200 auctions ended. Another 750 are scheduled to end by today. This will go on longer than today I am guessing....... I imagine there are over 5,000 people nationwide that think this is a 'good' investment.
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<< <i>There have been over 1200 auctions ended. Another 750 are scheduled to end by today. This will go on longer than today I am guessing....... I imagine there are over 5,000 people nationwide that think this is a 'good' investment. >>
I was just going to say the same thing... 9+ pages of these come up during a search. It seems the ones with "Mantle" and "Bush" in the title are getting more hits and more money. I just cannot understand how 9 pages of the same card, with 15 pages already closed, is getting this kind of money.
Is Olberman snatching any of these up? IIRC, he was the main buyer of the Gordon cutouts last year.
I have no problem with "shiny stuff", but this is just odd... I think it's a cool concept and when the other guy posted about this card a while back, I thought it was a cool card. Never thought I could make a small fortune off of them at the time...if only I had known...
Topps has had the Pres on cards in the past (all those Presidental inserts)
The Desert Storm set, issued back around the first Gulf War had Pres. GHWB. in it, but I don't recall if he was still in office when the set was released.
Back in the mid 90s, Topps tried to get into comics, and had Pres. Clinton and Al Gore featured as central characters in some cheesy comics (even made some "super hero" cards for them).
Also back in the 90s, the card game "Illuminati: The New World Order" had cards for Pres Clinton, as well as Hillary. (Bill's was wearing a dog collar on his card, and Hillary's holding a leash on hers)
I doubt any legal action is going to come down the pipe, as it hasn't in the past.
Action is still hot and heavy at 10:40 cst with auctions ending around the $200 mark. Many new buyers. I guess people are making out and some people are going to be very unhappy in a month.
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Just spent $76 on packs again and sold 3 Jeters for $80. More free cards !!! Luckily those Jeters are selling as the packs yielded alot of unvaluable stuff. I think I'll quit while Im ahead. On Naxcom buy offers for Red's for $25 and White for $15. Cant beat that. Tempted to buy more.
Print run is normal like all the other 2007 Topps regular issue so say half a mil of each made? I pulled 5 from 2 hobby boxes and 3 jumbo packs. Tempted to buy more but I wont. It was fun opening boxes other than 89 Fleer. Its been awhile.
<< <i>Print run is normal like all the other 2007 Topps regular issue so say half a mil of each made? I pulled 5 from 2 hobby boxes and 3 jumbo packs. Tempted to buy more but I wont. It was fun opening boxes other than 89 Fleer. Its been awhile. >>
Only 500K? I would think that number would easily breach 1M but that's just my knee jerk reaction...
So basically my kid won't be able to go to college, but at least I'll have a set where the three most expensive cards are of a player I despise ~ CDsNuts
I watched 10 auctions just end and the high was 102.00 the low was a 40.00 res not met. LOL Most sold for in the 50.00 range. I think I'll wait another day or 2 and get mine for 5.00
If a miniscule fraction of non-collectors become interested in this card for nostalgic and/or historic and/or politic reasons, this card can indeed maintain a $25-$50 value for quite some time.
Looking at completed auctions (almost 4k of them) I wonder what was the most expensive example? I found one for 370.00. Feedback left to buyer of course.
Yesterday you could get the whole set for 66.00......................
Fools and money do sure part.
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz wake me when they get to 5.00 I'll want one then.
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About $40.00
<< <i>"what is a wax box going for then. "
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About $40.00 >>
So an alledged error regular circulated card is going for $200 but a box is $40? In theory, you could buy 5 boxes and probably pull 3 or 4 of these cards?
: scratches head :
I don't get it.
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And, it was not "all good."
The newspaper story fed the ISP home pages, which fed EBAY.
I'll bet champagne corks are popping at TOPPS tonight.
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<< <i>"what is a wax box going for then. "
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About $40.00 >>
So an alledged error regular circulated card is going for $200 but a box is $40? In theory, you could buy 5 boxes and probably pull 3 or 4 of these cards?
: scratches head :
I don't get it. >>
cause you missed it, its over!! Card Crashed like Doubleclick stock.....
someone should do a intraday price graph for this card....it would be a little tuff because many current high bidders put there bid in Tuesday morning, but they wont win for a couple days, when the buyers realize how foolish they have been...i wonder if many of these transactions will ever be completed....
second biggest winner after Topps...EBAY.
many of these transactions will ever be completed.... "
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No way the EBAY-rookies are going to pay. Only the experienced guys will pay.
Some buyers will destroy/lose/damage their packages, and file chargebacks.
Smart sellers will fully insure their USPS packages and let the PO deal with
the fraudulent claims.
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99-cent auctions are now starting to expire with no bids.
<< <i>" I just dont get it... "
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99-cent auctions are now starting to expire with no bids. >>
Stone --- untrue.
The one auction that ended early:
Auction1
Was shut down and shortly after this was put up by the same seller:
Auction 2
-Tom
EDITED: Storm, not Stone. Sorry.
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Where? I just looked and it is still going strong.
Steve
Where? I just looked and it is still going strong.
Steve """
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Click on "completed listings."
Lots of 1-cent auctions closed with no bids; those are the ones that
show the $ in red.
Some were cancelled by the sellers.
CUT PASTE:
http://search-completed.ebay.com/jeter-2007-bush_W0QQcatrefZC6QQcoactionZcompareQQcoentrypageZsearchQQcopagenumZ1QQfisZ2QQfromZR32QQfsooZ1QQfsopZ3QQsacatZQ2d1QQsbrsrtZd
Steve
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many of those 'endings' were relisted as BIN's.
Guys must have been afriad to run a full 7 day auction with a 99 start. or whatever and opted for the BIN.
JMO
Steve
Red
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Watch for a second wave of insanity on prices if Topps issues a version w/o Mantle and Bush in the picture....
Ive been tired of it since 1990.
Steve
<< <i>I don't know if anyone has thought of this but I heard it on XM this morning. Is it true that you aren't supposed to be able to profit from the Presidents image except for charity? If that's true then Topps could have an issue. I just got a look at this card and it's not really that impressive. Especially if it's not an error. Is it me or is anyone else getting tired of manufactured error cards?
Red >>
good point, Topps may have a problem on their hands....seems like a pretty sneaky thing they pulled this year....But after the Gordon "error" (done 100% on purpose), topps had to come up with something else this year to top that....i guess we can look foward to a Topps Stunt every February now....
Steve
In yesterdays daily news it stated that they (Topps) needed White House approval and did not get it. Maybe that is why the run up was as intense as it is.
would the $400 bidder cancel his bis and then just BIN for $49.99..........
are people this dumb?
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If the Jumbo boxes I'm waiting on arrive in time, I'll put my Jeter's up for .99 and see what they bring in a 1 day auction.
Of course they'll probably arrive just as the feeding frenzy cools off
<< <i>I don't know if anyone has thought of this but I heard it on XM this morning. Is it true that you aren't supposed to be able to profit from the Presidents image except for charity? If that's true then Topps could have an issue. I just got a look at this card and it's not really that impressive. Especially if it's not an error. Is it me or is anyone else getting tired of manufactured error cards?
Red >>
I thougt the same thing. Bush and then Mantle is copyrighted or licensed. Hmm.
Had to join the craziness so I went to a card shop at lunch. Hobby Boxes were $55 and he had 6. Boxes were selling for $90 and I was going to gamble but settled for a box and a $10 jumbo pack.
I bought $66 worth of packs. Pulled a Red and White one. My card wasnt listed in searches on ebay after 1/2 a hour and I knew the market would get flooded and it was 12:00 so I sold them on Naxcom for $25 and $50. So those two cards paid for the whole box. Sadly there wasnt anything special in there but I got a few Dodgers for free !! Whats funny is one of the guys I sold to on Naxcom is someone who buys alot of cards and flips them and has been around awhile. He should know whats up. Crazy
February 15 and no one seemed to care at all. It's crazy how these things develop and take on a life of their own.
Personally, I don't really care one way or the other.
Now, if it was a Barry Bonds card with Willie Mays and Al Gore, maybe then I'd buy a box or two.
Edited to say: there's a really interesting article in the economics of fads, if someone's smart enough to do the research. It'd be *really* interesting to see how the prices for this card increased and decreased. I'd guess it was a $1 for a while, slowly climbed as it gained a little traction, then took off when it hit the mainstream media. It's going to crash pretty hard (maybe already) but will always remain one of the most desirable cards from the set. (Just like the FF card, I'd say).
Steve
Red >>
The attorney's on this forum can probably answer this better but I think using these images (Bush-Mantle) constitutes "fair use" and are not subject to the same restrictions as a card which features one or two players, for example. They are in the background, just like a background shot of the crowd and the mfg. obviously photoshop'd the image.
Seeking primarily PSA graded pre-war "type" cards
My PSA Registry Sets
34 Goudey, 75 Topps Mini, Hall of Fame Complete Set, 1985 Topps Tiffany, Hall of Fame Players Complete Set
2000 Bowman Chrome
2002 Topps Heritage NAP
2003 Topps Heritage chrome and seat relics
2006 Topps Heritage refractors and relics
2007 Topps Heritage refractors and relics
2008 Topps Heritage refractors and relics
2006 Topps Heritage and Topps Chrome football
<< <i>There have been over 1200 auctions ended. Another 750 are scheduled to end by today. This will go on longer than today I am guessing....... I imagine there are over 5,000 people nationwide that think this is a 'good' investment. >>
I was just going to say the same thing... 9+ pages of these come up during a search. It seems the ones with "Mantle" and "Bush" in the title are getting more hits and more money. I just cannot understand how 9 pages of the same card, with 15 pages already closed, is getting this kind of money.
Is Olberman snatching any of these up? IIRC, he was the main buyer of the Gordon cutouts last year.
I have no problem with "shiny stuff", but this is just odd... I think it's a cool concept and when the other guy posted about this card a while back, I thought it was a cool card. Never thought I could make a small fortune off of them at the time...if only I had known...
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The Desert Storm set, issued back around the first Gulf War had Pres. GHWB. in it, but I don't recall if he was still in office when the set was released.
Back in the mid 90s, Topps tried to get into comics, and had Pres. Clinton and Al Gore featured as central characters in some cheesy comics (even made some "super hero" cards for them).
Also back in the 90s, the card game "Illuminati: The New World Order" had cards for Pres Clinton, as well as Hillary. (Bill's was wearing a dog collar on his card, and Hillary's holding a leash on hers)
I doubt any legal action is going to come down the pipe, as it hasn't in the past.
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Smart idea.
The problem is that all/most of the other cards in the
packs are junk and have no value.
Even the common GU stuff is mostly worthless on EBAY.
As soon as a news story picks up on "the rest of the story,"
the music will stop abruptly.
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As soon as a news story picks up on "the rest of the story,"
the music will stop abruptly. >>
I think it's highly unlikely the mainstream press will run stories on the decline in prices. It's just not as interesting as the original story.
Lee
The are STILL in the $40-$80 range.
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So, how many factory sets will Topps produce this year?
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Could they be more freakin transparent?
Lee
Will card backgrounds become the new "Where's Waldo?"
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<< <i>Print run is normal like all the other 2007 Topps regular issue so say half a mil of each made? I pulled 5 from 2 hobby boxes and 3 jumbo packs. Tempted to buy more but I wont. It was fun opening boxes other than 89 Fleer. Its been awhile. >>
Only 500K? I would think that number would easily breach 1M but that's just my knee jerk reaction...
I watched 10 auctions just end and the high was 102.00 the low was a 40.00 res not met. LOL Most sold for in the 50.00 range. I think I'll wait another day or 2 and get mine for 5.00
Steve
People are playing sniper on closing auctions
for more than the BIN prices of MANY listings.
I hope these folks can average-down and buy
some in the <$5.00 range, next week.
Yesterday you could get the whole set for 66.00......................
Fools and money do sure part.
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz wake me when they get to 5.00 I'll want one then.
Steve
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