This guy basestealer comes on the board and makes absurd comments. It not like we are comparing Bernie's carreer statistics to the Tampa Bay Devil Rays. We are talking about career statistics of the Yankee greats such as Ruth, Gehrig, and DiMaggio which Bernie has surpassed. Its not worh wasting any more time with this naive poster.
"The answer was in the Patriots eyes. Gone were the swagger and c0ck sure smirks, replaced by downcast eyes and heads in hands. For his poise and leadership Eli Manning was named the game's MVP. The 2007 Giants were never perfect nor meant to be. They were fighters, scrappers....now they could be called something else, World Champions."
<< <i>This guy comes on the board and makes absurd comments. It mot like we are comparing Bernie's carreer statistics to the Tampa Bay Devil Rays. We are talking about career statistics of the Yankee greats such as Ruth, Gehrig, and DiMaggio which Bernie has surpassed. Its not worh wasting any more time with this naive poster. >>
I agree, let's ignore him and talk about something else.
<< <i> You did get angry, you know you did. You're a Yankees fan and nothing will do except total worshipping of the pinstripe. I can't say I ever felt the alpha male urge to defend a sports franchise, let alone take offense to someone pointing out the career stats of a mediocre player! But hey, maybe I wasn't raised right >>
base,
your kind is worse then any worshiping Yankee fan. Your kind will twist and re-create history to sooth your Yankee hating heart. Glad I saw this tonight! I will be on your back forever more now .....
I don't like the Yankees that much, but I don't hate them. And had this thread been about a great player whose numbers hadn't dwindled like Bernie's, you would have seen my support. You wouldn't be for Ruth playing through the '37 season would you? Come on. There is a time to call it quits and the stats don't lie.
Wow, such unfounded criticism for a guy that was unquestionably one of the KEY players of a Yankee dynasty that won FOUR freakin' World Series championships in a FIVE year period. Looks like clueless fans are starting out early this year. Bernie made 1.5 million last year and earned every bit of that salary. Hell, there are guys who spend the entire season on the DL or on the bench doing SQUAT that make more than that. 1.5 million is below the major league minimum for chrissakes.
But, more importantly, Bernie Williams represents the kind of player that the Yankees, or any other team for that matter, should cherish. Here's a guy who's given his heart and soul to the club and who never whined or complained even when it became apparent that the Yankees were going in another direction. There are plenty of guys who stuck around WAY longer than they should have: Gary Carter, Steve Carlton, Willie Mays, Pete Rose, even Mickey Mantle, but Bernie is still a rather productive part time player, as baseball stated, off the bench last year his numbers were solid. Guys like Bernie, though, add value beyond sheer numbers and stats, and I'm sure the Yankees realize and appreciate what he's contributed over the past couple seasons.
There are several teams he could play for next season, but his loyalty to the Yankees, and his character in general, are refreshing in this day and age.
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<< <i>I don't like the Yankees that much, but I don't hate them. And had this thread been about a great player whose numbers hadn't dwindled like Bernie's, you would have seen my support. You wouldn't be for Ruth playing through the '37 season would you? Come on. There is a time to call it quits and the stats don't lie. >>
...........sigh ......................
this "DEBATE" has NEVER been about whether Bernie should or shouldn't keep playing. You just like to make $hit up as you go along huh? What-ever fits the moment right? There used to be somebody else like that around here. Except he was 1,000 times smarter then you.
Look, how can you not see the guy needs to retire? How can you sit there and honestly defend this guy? 4 world series rings? Sure, but that was how long ago?
Its pure comedy to see these yankee nuts try to defend the indefensible.
I think Jerry's problem is ignorant baseball "fans" like you who come on here spewing nonsense like the above post, just a guess, though.
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<< <i>I don't like the Yankees that much, but I don't hate them. And had this thread been about a great player whose numbers hadn't dwindled like Bernie's, you would have seen my support. You wouldn't be for Ruth playing through the '37 season would you? Come on. There is a time to call it quits and the stats don't lie. >>
...........sigh ......................
this "DEBATE" has NEVER been about whether Bernie should or shouldn't keep playing. You just like to make $hit up as you go along huh? What-ever fits the moment right? There used to be somebody else like that around here. Except he was 1,000 times smarter then you.
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Actually, that clearly is your debate with me, since my original post to this thread was as follows (just my opinion, which you took issue with!)
<< <i>I think he needs to retire... like 5 years ago. There's no place on a ballclub (especially the Yankees) for a 39 year old who isn't healthy enough to play full time, can't hit .250, is lucky to knock out 10 homers, lumbers on the bases, and has lost nearly all of his fielding ability. I know lots of nice guys--but none of them should be playing baseball. If he's going to go the way of Rickey Henderson and just make a fool of himself for a decade after his last good season, so be it. But for the 1.5 mil the Yanks paid him last year, they could have recruited a team of middle schoolers with better ability. >>
<< <i> Actually, that clearly is your debate with me, since my original post to this thread was as follows (just my opinion, which you took issue with!) >>
Does this guy even have a clue that previous pages can be read ????
<< <i> [] The Yankees would have won 4 world series rings with or without Bernie. With a 400 million dollar payroll, the expect to win the series each and every year. I can't figure out why people like to enshrine mediocre Yankee players as if they were heroic players of epic proportions that hurled an underdog to a pennant... Maybe if Bernie played for the Tigers and won those rings, I'd feel differently. >>
<< <i> Actually, that clearly is your debate with me, since my original post to this thread was as follows (just my opinion, which you took issue with!) >>
Does this guy even have a clue that previous pages can be read ????
>>
Sure I do, but it's obvious you aren't reading them, thus I quoted for you my original post to this thread (factual), which set you into a tailspin. You can get personal with the insults as all unintelligent sports-freaks do, but please don't lower yourself by resorting to lies to make your points. Really!
<< <i> [] The Yankees would have won 4 world series rings with or without Bernie. With a 400 million dollar payroll, the expect to win the series each and every year. I can't figure out why people like to enshrine mediocre Yankee players as if they were heroic players of epic proportions that hurled an underdog to a pennant... Maybe if Bernie played for the Tigers and won those rings, I'd feel differently. >>
Ummmmm, no
I took issue with THIS skippy! >>
But that's true. It's true, true, true. You want to deny the Yankee's giant payroll? You want to deny that they are the team to beat each season, with or without any single player (all of them are key, because all are overpaid and over-talented, Bernie didn't carry that team to jack!)
Think of it this way--if Bernie wasn't with the Yankees in 1996, they had the payroll and the clout to get ANY centerfielder they wanted--Griffey, for instance, who would have put up bigger numbers in any case. There is no player the Yankees cannot bankroll. So, to say that whomever they've overpaid to be there is somehow the "key player" is absurd. It's nonsense.
<< <i> Sure I do, but it's obvious you aren't reading them, thus I quoted for you my original post to this thread (factual), which set you into a tailspin. You can get personal with the insults as all unintelligent sports-freaks do, but please don't lower yourself by resorting to lies to make your points. Really! >>
Your original quote had nothing to do with this disaster. And spare me the little speech. You have done more then enough to expose yourself as a FRAUD ...... and quite frankly ....... posters such as yourself deserve the insults. I will be here MUCH for often now ......
<< <i> Sure I do, but it's obvious you aren't reading them, thus I quoted for you my original post to this thread (factual), which set you into a tailspin. You can get personal with the insults as all unintelligent sports-freaks do, but please don't lower yourself by resorting to lies to make your points. Really! >>
Your original quote had nothing to do with this disaster. And spare me the little speech. You have done more then enough to expose yourself as a fraud ...... and quite frankly ....... posters such as yourself deserve the insults. I will be here MUCH for often now ...... >>
As dumb, and as stupid, and as worthless, and as naive as I am, but I still manage to control your life! Because of me, you'll be here "much more often." You know, all those things that you say that I am, and I control you, I own you, what does that make you?
<< <i> As dumb, and as stupid, and as worthless, and as naive as I am, but I still manage to control your life! Because of me, you'll be here "much more often." You know, all those things that you say that I am, and I control you, I own you, what does that make you? >>
Nah,
I just like drama. Oh yes I do. You better hope I get banned
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< Ladies & Gentleman, we present to you: the new AXHOLE!! >>
with a Lou gehrig icon to boot!
Ingenius isn't it?
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I'm Sorry Bernie Williams isn't a HOFer. It's really not my fault, guys. It's his lack of ability, isn't it? Or is it my fault. I don't know anymore. You be nice to me and I mean it.
<< <i>I'm Sorry Bernie Williams isn't a HOFer. It's really not my fault, guys. It's his lack of ability, isn't it? Or is it my fault. I don't know anymore. You be nice to me and I mean it. >>
HOF'er???? Now its about the Hall of Fame? Yipeeeee!
No one here said otherwise. As for the senior citizen thing, Pandrews posted your pic in another thread and you don't look a day north of 20 years old.
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No one here said otherwise. As for the senior citizen thing, Pandrews posted your pic in another thread and you don't look a day north of 20 years old. >>
That would explain his reference to the 96-2000 Yankees as "how many years ago was that? "
No one here said otherwise. As for the senior citizen thing, Pandrews posted your pic in another thread and you don't look a day north of 20 years old. >>
That would explain his reference to the 96-2000 Yankees as "how many years ago was that? " >>
That wasn't me who said that. That was the other poster. You people really shouldn't be so careless with your lies. It's shameful.
<< <i>I think he needs to retire... like 5 years ago. There's no place on a ballclub (especially the Yankees) for a 39 year old who isn't healthy enough to play full time, can't hit .250, is lucky to knock out 10 homers, lumbers on the bases, and has lost nearly all of his fielding ability. I know lots of nice guys--but none of them should be playing baseball. If he's going to go the way of Rickey Henderson and just make a fool of himself for a decade after his last good season, so be it. But for the 1.5 mil the Yanks paid him last year, they could have recruited a team of middle schoolers with better ability. >>
That may have been one of the dumbest posts I have read on here yet.
Did you watch any yankee games last year ? Ever ?
"The other teams could make trouble for us if they win." -- Yogi Berra
<< <i>I think he needs to retire... like 5 years ago. There's no place on a ballclub (especially the Yankees) for a 39 year old who isn't healthy enough to play full time, can't hit .250, is lucky to knock out 10 homers, lumbers on the bases, and has lost nearly all of his fielding ability. I know lots of nice guys--but none of them should be playing baseball. If he's going to go the way of Rickey Henderson and just make a fool of himself for a decade after his last good season, so be it. But for the 1.5 mil the Yanks paid him last year, they could have recruited a team of middle schoolers with better ability. >>
That may have been one of the dumbest posts I have read on here yet.
Did you watch any yankee games last year ? Ever ? >>
No way. Why would I? Bernie's stats speak for themselves. I don't care what he did during one game that got you all excited. His numbers stink to high heaven. You can't argue that unless you've never bothered looking at them!
Bri I was just about to say the same thing. Obviously these "fans"??? dont watch Yankees games and certainly didnt see Bernie fill in last season.
I see this is going to be another interesting season with Yankees bashers who know nothing about the game or the Yankees. Don't get me wrong, I enjoy a good debate but it has to be with someone who knows what's going on.
<< <i> No way. Why would I? Bernie's stats speak for themselves. I don't care what he did during one game that got you all excited. His numbers stink to high heaven. You can't argue that unless you've never bothered looking at them! >>
Wow, Basestealer, you are really showing yourself here and you argue about a player's performance? How on earth can ANYONE be a baseball fan, or any sports fan for that matter, if that is what you believe?
Here's a little lesson about sports...often times, it's more than just the numbers.
There are no yankees bashers here. There are only people telling the truth, and every Yankees FAN on this board rallying around a pack of lies like banshees. If Bernie was so great (a laugh) why wasn't he offered a spot in the roster? You can't come up with an answer. You've put words into my mouth and wobbled all around the issues. You're just sick that someone would have anything to say other than to kiss Bernie's overhyped butt. Right? Right.
<< <i> No way. Why would I? Bernie's stats speak for themselves. I don't care what he did during one game that got you all excited. His numbers stink to high heaven. You can't argue that unless you've never bothered looking at them! >>
Wow, Basestealer, you are really showing yourself here and you argue about a player's performance? How on earth can ANYONE be a baseball fan, or any sports fan for that matter, if that is what you believe?
Here's a little lesson about sports...often times, it's more than just the numbers. >>
Do you really believe anyone living outside of a crazed, hysterical bubble will believe what you just said? You said one can't be a sports fan if they analyze the numbers? LOL. You believe the game is more than numbers--and it is, and I never said otherwise. I said Bernie was a good guy, and he was loyal. I also said his performance has been on the decline for 5 years, and it has. You fans can make a hero out of a single game while the guy tanks statistically, but the people in charge, the people upstairs--they know the truth, and they canned Bernie. That's something you can never "fan" away.
I dont think I have seen anyone here say that he deserves to have a roster spot this spring. If he earns it, then great. That means the Yanks feel he has something to offer.
I think I have just become dumber by responding to that post.
<< <i>I dont think I have seen anyone here say that he deserves to have a roster spot this spring. If he earns it, then great. That means the Yanks feel he has something to offer.
I think I have just become dumber by responding to that post. >>
Then why are you arguing with me? You argue for the sake of arguing--you haven't even read this thread. Amazing. You're glib.
<< <i>Basestealer, are you even reading what you wrote before you post completely the opposite of what you said in an earlier post?
Obviously, there is only going in circles with you. I dont have to energy to argue with someone who cant make up their mind. >>
I've maintained the same position throughout this entire thread. Your idiotic "fan friends" have quoted OTHER POSTERS and attributed them to ME. Don't be as lazy and stupid as they are--read the thread for yourself, moron. You're too stupid to argue with. When you realize you've made a mistake and apologize, I won't forgive you. But be a man and do it anyway.
Hmmm....I think Axhole may have hijacked someone's account. Some awful similarities here...the name calling out of sheer anger and pounding on the keyboard is showing its creepy little head....
There are only people telling the truth, and every Yankees FAN on this board rallying around a pack of lies like banshees.
"People" telling the truth, you mean you & SteveA, both of whom have no clue about baseball? And, BTW, I'm not even a Yankee fan (as my name Grote15 should indicate), but any fan of BASEBALL should know and appreciate what Bernie has done for the Yankees.
You keep harping on Bernie's "decline"over the past five years. Well, no kidding, of course he's not the same player he was five years ago, but he earned his minimum salary and then some last season, and the point of this thread (which has apparently been forgotten by you) is not that Bernie deserves to be the starting CF or anything like that, but that he is a class act and a great Yankee throughout his career.
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I wasn't the one who got personal. Like I said in another thread where gang mentality ruled, you idiots are forever damned in my book and frankly any niceness I might show you is purely an act. Get that straight. You're sick, deranged monsters and stalkers. Pompous sheep who follow the pack. You deserve neither respect nor admiration. I am surprised the powers that be haven't kicked the lot of you off this forum, and even more surprised that people who previously had a backbone don't take a stand against your nonsense. But it doesn't surprise me all that much, considering from whence you came. You and I both know.
I wasn't the one who got personal. Like I said in another thread where gang mentality ruled, you idiots are forever damned in my book and frankly any niceness I might show you is purely an act. Get that straight. You're sick, deranged monsters and stalkers. Pompous sheep who follow the pack. You deserve neither respect nor admiration. I am surprised the powers that be haven't kicked the lot of you off this forum, and even more surprised that people who previously had a backbone don't take a stand against your nonsense. But it doesn't surprise me all that much, considering from whence you came. You and I both know. >>
I wasn't the one who got personal. Like I said in another thread where gang mentality ruled, you idiots are forever damned in my book and frankly any niceness I might show you is purely an act. Get that straight. You're sick, deranged monsters and stalkers. Pompous sheep who follow the pack. You deserve neither respect nor admiration. I am surprised the powers that be haven't kicked the lot of you off this forum, and even more surprised that people who previously had a backbone don't take a stand against your nonsense. But it doesn't surprise me all that much, considering from whence you came. You and I both know. >>
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Laugh all you want--the proof is right here on this thread. FIRST PAGE. Post by "softparade". He attacks, attacks more, and continues to berate all dissenting opinions. You're a fool amongst fools--you believe 3 vocal bullies laughing it up at your easily disproven mutual lies will rally the crowd? I beg to differ. People can read for themselves.
Softparade launches first salvo (and 2nd, 3rd, 4th, etc)
<< <i>For what? How about 4 god damn World Series rings ya freaking clueless ba$tard I mean, where the hell do ding dongs like this come from >>
<< Don't be as lazy and stupid as they are--read the thread for yourself, moron. You're too stupid to argue with.
Even Axhole had better rejoinders than that lame attempt at a comeback.
Nice pic BTW!
The Baseball Guru >>
I wasn't the one who got personal. Like I said in another thread where gang mentality ruled, you idiots are forever damned in my book and frankly any niceness I might show you is purely an act. Get that straight. You're sick, deranged monsters and stalkers. Pompous sheep who follow the pack. You deserve neither respect nor admiration. I am surprised the powers that be haven't kicked the lot of you off this forum, and even more surprised that people who previously had a backbone don't take a stand against your nonsense. But it doesn't surprise me all that much, considering from whence you came. You and I both know.
What a crock! What hysterical hyperbole! You come on here spouting nonsense and slinging insults calling other posters "moron" and then play the poor victim when you're EXPOSED as the fraud that you are! LOL! The only "nonsense" here is coming from your piehole, pal!
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<< <i><< Don't be as lazy and stupid as they are--read the thread for yourself, moron. You're too stupid to argue with.
Even Axhole had better rejoinders than that lame attempt at a comeback.
Nice pic BTW!
The Baseball Guru >>
I wasn't the one who got personal. Like I said in another thread where gang mentality ruled, you idiots are forever damned in my book and frankly any niceness I might show you is purely an act. Get that straight. You're sick, deranged monsters and stalkers. Pompous sheep who follow the pack. You deserve neither respect nor admiration. I am surprised the powers that be haven't kicked the lot of you off this forum, and even more surprised that people who previously had a backbone don't take a stand against your nonsense. But it doesn't surprise me all that much, considering from whence you came. You and I both know.
What a crock! What hysterical hyperbole! You come on here spouting nonsense and slinging insults calling other posters "moron" and then play the poor victim when you're EXPOSED as the fraud that you are! LOL! The only "nonsense" here is coming from your piehole, pal! >>
Like I said, gloid, the proof is here in this thread. Page one. softparade's posts. Read them and free yourself from lies. Or not--you already know the truth. I'm not your huckleberry, bully. You won't win, intimidate, or gain a thing with your nonsense. It's time the trash was taken out on this board, and I'm the garbage man. Free yourself from your lies now, or suffer the consequences.
<< <i>Waaaaaaaaaaaa Waaaaaaaaaaaaaa Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!! He called me a name first! ::::sniff sniff::::: >>
So it's okay when you lie and claim I hurled insults first. When I prove this is a lie, you turn around and call me a crybaby--which is exactly what you were just doing yourself, before your lies were refuted. Unbelievable. Let me take a wild guess-none of you have college degrees? I'm surprised if any of you "gradiated high skewl"
You've been posting on these boards for what, like a month at most, and already you've drawn the ire of many more than just the few of us who have posted on this one thread.
Methinks you doth protest too much!
But then again, I know your kind, the ignorant blowhard who likes to stoke the flames, like another guy who used to post here and who got banned, but you & I both know all bout that, too, huh?
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Unfortunately for you, Im no dummy Basestealer. (two Bachelor's Degrees) But I dont judge others by their school smarts. I'm glad that will make another difference between you and me!
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"The answer was in the Patriots eyes. Gone were the swagger and c0ck sure smirks, replaced by downcast eyes and heads in hands. For his poise and leadership Eli Manning was named the game's MVP. The 2007 Giants were never perfect nor meant to be. They were fighters, scrappers....now they could be called something else, World Champions."
<< <i>This guy comes on the board and makes absurd comments. It mot like we are comparing Bernie's carreer statistics to the Tampa Bay Devil Rays. We are talking about career statistics of the Yankee greats such as Ruth, Gehrig, and DiMaggio which Bernie has surpassed. Its not worh wasting any more time with this naive poster. >>
I agree, let's ignore him and talk about something else.
<< <i>
You did get angry, you know you did. You're a Yankees fan and nothing will do except total worshipping of the pinstripe. I can't say I ever felt the alpha male urge to defend a sports franchise, let alone take offense to someone pointing out the career stats of a mediocre player! But hey, maybe I wasn't raised right
base,
your kind is worse then any worshiping Yankee fan. Your kind will twist and re-create history to sooth your Yankee hating heart. Glad I saw this tonight! I will be on your back forever more now .....
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But, more importantly, Bernie Williams represents the kind of player that the Yankees, or any other team for that matter, should cherish. Here's a guy who's given his heart and soul to the club and who never whined or complained even when it became apparent that the Yankees were going in another direction. There are plenty of guys who stuck around WAY longer than they should have: Gary Carter, Steve Carlton, Willie Mays, Pete Rose, even Mickey Mantle, but Bernie is still a rather productive part time player, as baseball stated, off the bench last year his numbers were solid. Guys like Bernie, though, add value beyond sheer numbers and stats, and I'm sure the Yankees realize and appreciate what he's contributed over the past couple seasons.
There are several teams he could play for next season, but his loyalty to the Yankees, and his character in general, are refreshing in this day and age.
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<< <i>I don't like the Yankees that much, but I don't hate them. And had this thread been about a great player whose numbers hadn't dwindled like Bernie's, you would have seen my support. You wouldn't be for Ruth playing through the '37 season would you? Come on. There is a time to call it quits and the stats don't lie. >>
...........sigh ......................
this "DEBATE" has NEVER been about whether Bernie should or shouldn't keep playing. You just like to make $hit up as you go along huh? What-ever fits the moment right? There used to be somebody else like that around here. Except he was 1,000 times smarter then you.
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Look, how can you not see the guy needs to retire? How can you sit there and honestly defend this guy? 4 world series rings? Sure, but that was how long ago?
Its pure comedy to see these yankee nuts try to defend the indefensible.
I think Jerry's problem is ignorant baseball "fans" like you who come on here spewing nonsense like the above post, just a guess, though.
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<< <i>
<< <i>I don't like the Yankees that much, but I don't hate them. And had this thread been about a great player whose numbers hadn't dwindled like Bernie's, you would have seen my support. You wouldn't be for Ruth playing through the '37 season would you? Come on. There is a time to call it quits and the stats don't lie. >>
...........sigh ......................
this "DEBATE" has NEVER been about whether Bernie should or shouldn't keep playing. You just like to make $hit up as you go along huh? What-ever fits the moment right? There used to be somebody else like that around here. Except he was 1,000 times smarter then you.
Actually, that clearly is your debate with me, since my original post to this thread was as follows (just my opinion, which you took issue with!)
<< <i>I think he needs to retire... like 5 years ago. There's no place on a ballclub (especially the Yankees) for a 39 year old who isn't healthy enough to play full time, can't hit .250, is lucky to knock out 10 homers, lumbers on the bases, and has lost nearly all of his fielding ability. I know lots of nice guys--but none of them should be playing baseball. If he's going to go the way of Rickey Henderson and just make a fool of himself for a decade after his last good season, so be it. But for the 1.5 mil the Yanks paid him last year, they could have recruited a team of middle schoolers with better ability. >>
<< <i> Actually, that clearly is your debate with me, since my original post to this thread was as follows (just my opinion, which you took issue with!)
>>
Does this guy even have a clue that previous pages can be read ????
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<< <i> []
The Yankees would have won 4 world series rings with or without Bernie. With a 400 million dollar payroll, the expect to win the series each and every year. I can't figure out why people like to enshrine mediocre Yankee players as if they were heroic players of epic proportions that hurled an underdog to a pennant... Maybe if Bernie played for the Tigers and won those rings, I'd feel differently. >>
Ummmmm, no
I took issue with THIS skippy!
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<< <i> Actually, that clearly is your debate with me, since my original post to this thread was as follows (just my opinion, which you took issue with!)
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Does this guy even have a clue that previous pages can be read ????
Sure I do, but it's obvious you aren't reading them, thus I quoted for you my original post to this thread (factual), which set you into a tailspin. You can get personal with the insults as all unintelligent sports-freaks do, but please don't lower yourself by resorting to lies to make your points. Really!
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The Yankees would have won 4 world series rings with or without Bernie. With a 400 million dollar payroll, the expect to win the series each and every year. I can't figure out why people like to enshrine mediocre Yankee players as if they were heroic players of epic proportions that hurled an underdog to a pennant... Maybe if Bernie played for the Tigers and won those rings, I'd feel differently. >>
Ummmmm, no
I took issue with THIS skippy! >>
But that's true. It's true, true, true. You want to deny the Yankee's giant payroll? You want to deny that they are the team to beat each season, with or without any single player (all of them are key, because all are overpaid and over-talented, Bernie didn't carry that team to jack!)
<< <i> Sure I do, but it's obvious you aren't reading them, thus I quoted for you my original post to this thread (factual), which set you into a tailspin. You can get personal with the insults as all unintelligent sports-freaks do, but please don't lower yourself by resorting to lies to make your points. Really! >>
Your original quote had nothing to do with this disaster. And spare me the little speech. You have done more then enough to expose yourself as a FRAUD ...... and quite frankly ....... posters such as yourself deserve the insults. I will be here MUCH for often now ......
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<< <i> Sure I do, but it's obvious you aren't reading them, thus I quoted for you my original post to this thread (factual), which set you into a tailspin. You can get personal with the insults as all unintelligent sports-freaks do, but please don't lower yourself by resorting to lies to make your points. Really! >>
Your original quote had nothing to do with this disaster. And spare me the little speech. You have done more then enough to expose yourself as a fraud ...... and quite frankly ....... posters such as yourself deserve the insults. I will be here MUCH for often now ......
As dumb, and as stupid, and as worthless, and as naive as I am, but I still manage to control your life! Because of me, you'll be here "much more often." You know, all those things that you say that I am, and I control you, I own you, what does that make you?
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As dumb, and as stupid, and as worthless, and as naive as I am, but I still manage to control your life! Because of me, you'll be here "much more often." You know, all those things that you say that I am, and I control you, I own you, what does that make you? >>
Nah,
I just like drama. Oh yes I do. You better hope I get banned
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<< <i>Ladies & Gentleman, we present to you: the new AXHOLE!! >>
with a Lou gehrig icon to boot!
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with a Lou gehrig icon to boot!
Ingenius isn't it?
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<< <i>I'm Sorry Bernie Williams isn't a HOFer. It's really not my fault, guys. It's his lack of ability, isn't it? Or is it my fault. I don't know anymore. You be nice to me and I mean it. >>
HOF'er???? Now its about the Hall of Fame? Yipeeeee!
Come on Baby, lets do the Twist
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No one here said otherwise. As for the senior citizen thing, Pandrews posted your pic in another thread and you don't look a day north of 20 years old.
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<< <i> I'm Sorry Bernie Williams isn't a HOFer
No one here said otherwise. As for the senior citizen thing, Pandrews posted your pic in another thread and you don't look a day north of 20 years old. >>
That would explain his reference to the 96-2000 Yankees as "how many years ago was that? "
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No one here said otherwise. As for the senior citizen thing, Pandrews posted your pic in another thread and you don't look a day north of 20 years old. >>
That would explain his reference to the 96-2000 Yankees as "how many years ago was that? "
That wasn't me who said that. That was the other poster. You people really shouldn't be so careless with your lies. It's shameful.
I'm not 20.
<< <i>I think he needs to retire... like 5 years ago. There's no place on a ballclub (especially the Yankees) for a 39 year old who isn't healthy enough to play full time, can't hit .250, is lucky to knock out 10 homers, lumbers on the bases, and has lost nearly all of his fielding ability. I know lots of nice guys--but none of them should be playing baseball. If he's going to go the way of Rickey Henderson and just make a fool of himself for a decade after his last good season, so be it. But for the 1.5 mil the Yanks paid him last year, they could have recruited a team of middle schoolers with better ability. >>
That may have been one of the dumbest posts I have read on here yet.
Did you watch any yankee games last year ? Ever ?
-- Yogi Berra
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<< <i>I think he needs to retire... like 5 years ago. There's no place on a ballclub (especially the Yankees) for a 39 year old who isn't healthy enough to play full time, can't hit .250, is lucky to knock out 10 homers, lumbers on the bases, and has lost nearly all of his fielding ability. I know lots of nice guys--but none of them should be playing baseball. If he's going to go the way of Rickey Henderson and just make a fool of himself for a decade after his last good season, so be it. But for the 1.5 mil the Yanks paid him last year, they could have recruited a team of middle schoolers with better ability. >>
That may have been one of the dumbest posts I have read on here yet.
Did you watch any yankee games last year ? Ever ? >>
No way. Why would I? Bernie's stats speak for themselves. I don't care what he did during one game that got you all excited. His numbers stink to high heaven. You can't argue that unless you've never bothered looking at them!
I was just about to say the same thing. Obviously these "fans"??? dont watch Yankees games and certainly didnt see Bernie fill in last season.
I see this is going to be another interesting season with Yankees bashers who know nothing about the game or the Yankees. Don't get me wrong, I enjoy a good debate but it has to be with someone who knows what's going on.
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No way. Why would I? Bernie's stats speak for themselves. I don't care what he did during one game that got you all excited. His numbers stink to high heaven. You can't argue that unless you've never bothered looking at them! >>
Wow, Basestealer, you are really showing yourself here and you argue about a player's performance? How on earth can ANYONE be a baseball fan, or any sports fan for that matter, if that is what you believe?
Here's a little lesson about sports...often times, it's more than just the numbers.
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No way. Why would I? Bernie's stats speak for themselves. I don't care what he did during one game that got you all excited. His numbers stink to high heaven. You can't argue that unless you've never bothered looking at them! >>
Wow, Basestealer, you are really showing yourself here and you argue about a player's performance? How on earth can ANYONE be a baseball fan, or any sports fan for that matter, if that is what you believe?
Here's a little lesson about sports...often times, it's more than just the numbers. >>
Do you really believe anyone living outside of a crazed, hysterical bubble will believe what you just said? You said one can't be a sports fan if they analyze the numbers? LOL. You believe the game is more than numbers--and it is, and I never said otherwise. I said Bernie was a good guy, and he was loyal. I also said his performance has been on the decline for 5 years, and it has. You fans can make a hero out of a single game while the guy tanks statistically, but the people in charge, the people upstairs--they know the truth, and they canned Bernie. That's something you can never "fan" away.
I think I have just become dumber by responding to that post.
<< <i>I dont think I have seen anyone here say that he deserves to have a roster spot this spring. If he earns it, then great. That means the Yanks feel he has something to offer.
I think I have just become dumber by responding to that post. >>
Then why are you arguing with me? You argue for the sake of arguing--you haven't even read this thread. Amazing. You're glib.
Obviously, there is only going in circles with you. I dont have to energy to argue with someone who cant make up their mind.
<< <i>Basestealer, are you even reading what you wrote before you post completely the opposite of what you said in an earlier post?
Obviously, there is only going in circles with you. I dont have to energy to argue with someone who cant make up their mind. >>
I've maintained the same position throughout this entire thread. Your idiotic "fan friends" have quoted OTHER POSTERS and attributed them to ME. Don't be as lazy and stupid as they are--read the thread for yourself, moron. You're too stupid to argue with. When you realize you've made a mistake and apologize, I won't forgive you. But be a man and do it anyway.
"People" telling the truth, you mean you & SteveA, both of whom have no clue about baseball? And, BTW, I'm not even a Yankee fan (as my name Grote15 should indicate), but any fan of BASEBALL should know and appreciate what Bernie has done for the Yankees.
You keep harping on Bernie's "decline"over the past five years. Well, no kidding, of course he's not the same player he was five years ago, but he earned his minimum salary and then some last season, and the point of this thread (which has apparently been forgotten by you) is not that Bernie deserves to be the starting CF or anything like that, but that he is a class act and a great Yankee throughout his career.
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That's my opinion. You can't handle it. Too bad.
Even Axhole had better rejoinders than that lame attempt at a comeback.
Nice pic BTW!
The Baseball Guru
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<< <i> Don't be as lazy and stupid as they are--read the thread for yourself, moron. You're too stupid to argue with.
Even Axhole had better rejoinders than that lame attempt at a comeback.
Nice pic BTW!
The Baseball Guru >>
I wasn't the one who got personal. Like I said in another thread where gang mentality ruled, you idiots are forever damned in my book and frankly any niceness I might show you is purely an act. Get that straight. You're sick, deranged monsters and stalkers. Pompous sheep who follow the pack. You deserve neither respect nor admiration. I am surprised the powers that be haven't kicked the lot of you off this forum, and even more surprised that people who previously had a backbone don't take a stand against your nonsense. But it doesn't surprise me all that much, considering from whence you came. You and I both know.
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<< <i> Don't be as lazy and stupid as they are--read the thread for yourself, moron. You're too stupid to argue with.
Even Axhole had better rejoinders than that lame attempt at a comeback.
Nice pic BTW!
The Baseball Guru >>
I wasn't the one who got personal. Like I said in another thread where gang mentality ruled, you idiots are forever damned in my book and frankly any niceness I might show you is purely an act. Get that straight. You're sick, deranged monsters and stalkers. Pompous sheep who follow the pack. You deserve neither respect nor admiration. I am surprised the powers that be haven't kicked the lot of you off this forum, and even more surprised that people who previously had a backbone don't take a stand against your nonsense. But it doesn't surprise me all that much, considering from whence you came. You and I both know. >>
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<< <i> Don't be as lazy and stupid as they are--read the thread for yourself, moron. You're too stupid to argue with.
Even Axhole had better rejoinders than that lame attempt at a comeback.
Nice pic BTW!
The Baseball Guru >>
I wasn't the one who got personal. Like I said in another thread where gang mentality ruled, you idiots are forever damned in my book and frankly any niceness I might show you is purely an act. Get that straight. You're sick, deranged monsters and stalkers. Pompous sheep who follow the pack. You deserve neither respect nor admiration. I am surprised the powers that be haven't kicked the lot of you off this forum, and even more surprised that people who previously had a backbone don't take a stand against your nonsense. But it doesn't surprise me all that much, considering from whence you came. You and I both know. >>
Laugh all you want--the proof is right here on this thread. FIRST PAGE. Post by "softparade". He attacks, attacks more, and continues to berate all dissenting opinions. You're a fool amongst fools--you believe 3 vocal bullies laughing it up at your easily disproven mutual lies will rally the crowd? I beg to differ. People can read for themselves.
Softparade launches first salvo (and 2nd, 3rd, 4th, etc)
<< <i>For what? How about 4 god damn World Series rings ya freaking clueless ba$tard I mean, where the hell do ding dongs like this come from >>
Even Axhole had better rejoinders than that lame attempt at a comeback.
Nice pic BTW!
The Baseball Guru >>
I wasn't the one who got personal. Like I said in another thread where gang mentality ruled, you idiots are forever damned in my book and frankly any niceness I might show you is purely an act. Get that straight. You're sick, deranged monsters and stalkers. Pompous sheep who follow the pack. You deserve neither respect nor admiration. I am surprised the powers that be haven't kicked the lot of you off this forum, and even more surprised that people who previously had a backbone don't take a stand against your nonsense. But it doesn't surprise me all that much, considering from whence you came. You and I both know.
What a crock! What hysterical hyperbole! You come on here spouting nonsense and slinging insults calling other posters "moron" and then play the poor victim when you're EXPOSED as the fraud that you are! LOL! The only "nonsense" here is coming from your piehole, pal!
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<< <i><< Don't be as lazy and stupid as they are--read the thread for yourself, moron. You're too stupid to argue with.
Even Axhole had better rejoinders than that lame attempt at a comeback.
Nice pic BTW!
The Baseball Guru >>
I wasn't the one who got personal. Like I said in another thread where gang mentality ruled, you idiots are forever damned in my book and frankly any niceness I might show you is purely an act. Get that straight. You're sick, deranged monsters and stalkers. Pompous sheep who follow the pack. You deserve neither respect nor admiration. I am surprised the powers that be haven't kicked the lot of you off this forum, and even more surprised that people who previously had a backbone don't take a stand against your nonsense. But it doesn't surprise me all that much, considering from whence you came. You and I both know.
What a crock! What hysterical hyperbole! You come on here spouting nonsense and slinging insults calling other posters "moron" and then play the poor victim when you're EXPOSED as the fraud that you are! LOL! The only "nonsense" here is coming from your piehole, pal! >>
Like I said, gloid, the proof is here in this thread. Page one. softparade's posts. Read them and free yourself from lies. Or not--you already know the truth. I'm not your huckleberry, bully. You won't win, intimidate, or gain a thing with your nonsense. It's time the trash was taken out on this board, and I'm the garbage man. Free yourself from your lies now, or suffer the consequences.
<< <i>Waaaaaaaaaaaa Waaaaaaaaaaaaaa Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!! He called me a name first! ::::sniff sniff::::: >>
So it's okay when you lie and claim I hurled insults first. When I prove this is a lie, you turn around and call me a crybaby--which is exactly what you were just doing yourself, before your lies were refuted. Unbelievable. Let me take a wild guess-none of you have college degrees? I'm surprised if any of you "gradiated high skewl"
<< <i> It's time the trash was taken out on this board, and I'm the garbage man. Free yourself from your lies now, or suffer the consequences. >>
LMAO!!!!!
Can I use this quote in my sig line? This HAS to be one of the funniest things I have ever read on this board!!
Finally, something I can agree with you on!
You've been posting on these boards for what, like a month at most, and already you've drawn the ire of many more than just the few of us who have posted on this one thread.
Methinks you doth protest too much!
But then again, I know your kind, the ignorant blowhard who likes to stoke the flames, like another guy who used to post here and who got banned, but you & I both know all bout that, too, huh?
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