five7teen, you could always just order a case and hope to pull those last few, if you could hold out a day or two until I get my sorting done I'm sure I'll be able to help you out. I'm almost done with the two cases (I have three boxes left) and I've only been at it for eight straight hours, didn't even stop for dinner. I can say I easily am going to have a full day of sorting after I get these all opened, I think I'm actually getting a blister on my finger from opening all these packs. Hopefully I'll have a new trade list up tomorrow evening. No ink so far in this case, but have gotten four relics and two black refractors. Well back to ripping....
<< <i>five7teen, you could always just order a case and hope to pull those last few, if you could hold out a day or two until I get my sorting done I'm sure I'll be able to help you out. I'm almost done with the two cases (I have three boxes left) and I've only been at it for eight straight hours, didn't even stop for dinner. I can say I easily am going to have a full day of sorting after I get these all opened, I think I'm actually getting a blister on my finger from opening all these packs. Hopefully I'll have a new trade list up tomorrow evening. No ink so far in this case, but have gotten four relics and two black refractors. Well back to ripping.... >>
I would be happy to wait - and until then, happy ripping. Eight straight hours and no dinner, if ever there was a better screen name, I haven't seen it...
To drive home Kevin and Dan's points about the Heritage train getting bigger and bigger, and more vintage guys getting into Heritage, I decided to try something fun. The first guy that PM's me that he can complete my 2007 Heritage wantlist will receive these 2 beauties below. Hopefully this will be kind of a fun "contest" so to speak. My list is below the scan, so if this interests you, start the trading amongst each other to fill in my gaps. For guys that busted a few cases this may take very little extra trading to find my SPs.
Genuine 1958 Topps baseball #115 Jim Bunning EX- and #230 Richie Ashburn EX+.
Here is my 2007 Heritage wantlist:
Base still needed: 55, 69, 110, 187, 197, 254, 264, 337, 453, and 493.
Well I finally got the last pack opened about 2:00 this morning, now I just have a massive amount of sorting to get done. The highpoints of 2 cases were Blue Auto Don Zimmer, Blue Auto Jim Bunning, and three Black Refractors. The bad thing is, is that now that they are all opened I'm trying to decide if I want to order another case of 2007 or maybe a case of 2006.....I think I might have a problem.
First off, I wanted to say I'm sorry to get you scared there Joestalin! I was just asking myself as I couldnt find a definitive answer in the previous mention of there being a possible third variation. Hope the heart-attack didnt cause long term health problems for you
(((see later in thread for trade list of needs/wants)))
Currently searching for 05 Upper Deck Origins & Old Judge Autos #/5 (Feller, Hafner, V.Martinez & Rosen) and 06 SP Authentic “By The Numbers” Letter Autos (Sabathia, Hafner, Sowers, V.Martinez & Lee)
Alright boys, here it is. 1st box 1st pack!!!!!!!!!!! I am feeling very lucky if I don't hit another thing. Anyone want to buy 2 cases with 1 pack opened!?!?!? lol
Trying to complete: 2000 Bowman Chrome 2002 Topps Heritage NAP 2003 Topps Heritage chrome and seat relics 2006 Topps Heritage refractors and relics 2007 Topps Heritage refractors and relics 2008 Topps Heritage refractors and relics 2006 Topps Heritage and Topps Chrome football
About 8 to 10 posts back up the thread I offered some vintage 1958's in sort of a "contest", and haven't seen one poster say a word about it (good or bad). Was it that terrible of an idea? Be honest sniff sniff I can handle it.
<< <i>About 8 to 10 posts back up the thread I offered some vintage 1958's in sort of a "contest", and haven't seen one poster say a word about it (good or bad). Was it that terrible of an idea? Be honest sniff sniff I can handle it. >>
I think that this thread usually moves it such a quick pace that it's hard to follow.
It's killing me but I ran into 8 of the 20.00 (8) pack boxes at Target tonite and only bought one.......They also had a regular box of 24 packs that someone had been thru by the looks of it with 3 packs gone....
Anywho...my list/wants are updated below. I'd sure like to at least get the base set complete if anyone can help. I have a stack of doubles for the base set if anyone needs anything....Just shoot me a pm. The boy and I are not going to do any of those additional sets so all of that stuff is up for trade for our SP's, etc....I'll trade the Manny Relic for a relic we don't have yet also. Thanks!
<< <i>I think that this thread usually moves it such a quick pace that it's hard to follow. >>
OK then here it is again:
To drive home Kevin and Dan's points about the Heritage train getting bigger and bigger, and more vintage guys getting into Heritage (like myself), I decided to try something fun. The first guy that PM's me that he can complete my 2007 Heritage wantlist will receive these 2 beauties below. Hopefully this will be kind of a fun "contest" so to speak. My list is below the scan, so if this interests you, start the trading amongst each other to fill in my gaps. For guys that busted a few cases this may take very little extra trading to find my SPs.
Genuine 1958 Topps baseball #115 Jim Bunning EX- and #230 Richie Ashburn EX+.
Here is my 2007 Heritage wantlist:
Base still needed: 55, 69, 110, 187, 197, 254, 264, 337, 453, and 493.
I think it is a GREAT idea! Unfortunately since your list includes more than 75 different SPs, most people would not want to give up 75+ SPs for your 2 cards although I would love to add those cards to the 1958 Topps set that I am working on! I hope to see more posts similar to yours but in my opinion no one will want to offer cards worth hundreds of dollars for two cards that combine for $35 worthin the conditions they are in. Now if you offered those cards for 5 SPs then I am sure you would be able to make a trade! Just my two cents worth.....
Craig in Texas
<< <i>About 8 to 10 posts back up the thread I offered some vintage 1958's in sort of a "contest", and haven't seen one poster say a word about it (good or bad). Was it that terrible of an idea? Be honest sniff sniff I can handle it. >>
Okay guys I am finally working on the spreadsheet for the website trade list hopefully I will have it all updated within an hour. After the last two cases I am close to a couple of xtra complete master sets so you will notice there are a couple of cards that I need multiples of. Also did any of you guys see the picture of the bunning relic I posted a page or two back? I just wondered if any of you guys have seen a seat relic like that one. I will post as soon as the website is updated.
Thats a fair point Craig, although I think you are overestimating the eBay value of 75 SPs. That being said, let me sweeten the pot a little bit. If the offer I extended in one of my posts above is met (see my want list in above post), here is what the "winner" will receive:
Well you are getting a little bit closer but you have to do some major tweaking to get anyone interested. Don't get me wrong -- your idea is GREAT! In fact, as most people that know me, there is only one reason why I buy Heritage and that is so I can trade my Heritage cards towards any cards from 1952 through 1970 in EX or better condition as needed for my sets. You can check out my web site below for details.
Well Mantle Williams and Maris RC arent making there way into the ring. The last few days SPs are going for about $1.50 each in large lots (25 or more), but this wasnt intended for a guy to take the offer who needs to sell his SPs to buy formula for his infant. It was for the guy who cracked multiple cases, had tons of SPs, and wanted to have a few mid grade original 1958 Hall of Famers. Those 4 are it, and if I get no takers, so be it. I wanted to try something fun with a twist. Anyone interested can PM me anytime.
<< <i>Well Mantle Williams and Maris RC arent making there way into the ring. The last few days SPs are going for about $1.50 each in large lots (25 or more), but this wasnt intended for a guy to take the offer who needs to sell his SPs to buy formula for his infant. It was for the guy who cracked multiple cases, had tons of SPs, and wanted to have a few mid grade original 1958 Hall of Famers. Those 4 are it, and if I get no takers, so be it. I wanted to try something fun with a twist. Anyone interested can PM me anytime. >>
Great idea but I don't think anybody mentioned infant formula? Again, GREAT idea BUT fair market is fair market. Heritage is not your average modern issue and even now. ..... that load of SP's command more respect then the vintage raw in the apparent condition of the scans. I only say this because you obviously are a little bit bent .... why else make the infant formula comment? GREAT IDEA ..... make it COMPARABLE
The trade list is finally updated so let the trading begin! Here is the new LIST I only have about 20 refractors so I thought it would be easier for you to pm me with what you have than it would for me to list the ones I need. If you don't see what you need, don't worry I have no self control so I am ordering another case tomorrow.
You just can't use ebay all the time. If you need 25 short prints, then it has to be worth a little more to get all and only those from someone here rather than trying to pick up lots that may have some cards you need and some extras. There is always a curve when you buy in mass. If you can hack the extra fees, you will make more on 10 10 card lots than one 100 card lot.
Sorry I have Heritage of the brain. Trading is a glorious fury of activity.
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Like the others said, you have a great idea for a fun way to trade cards but I dont think you grasp how valuable the SPs are when it boils down to it. Think about it in terms of the math for a second: SP = 1:2 packs, Hobby Box = 24 packs ~~~ 12 SP per Hobby Box Hobby case = 12 boxes; 12 boxes at 12 SP each = 96 Short Prints per case now remember there are 110 SP total in the set and you only get 144 of them per case! Thats only 34 doubles if you get perfect insertion. Its logical that people buying multiple cases are probably going to put together at least two sets as well, they will have the cards to do so after all.
Look in Beckett though and see what SPs at a 1:2 ratio usually book for ~ esp when there is that many of them. Last years Topps Heritage SP commons list for $8 each ~ thats a lot for what looks like a common card but it speaks to how hard they are to pull! You mentioned that larger lots went for about $1.50 each over large lots ~ well if the lot was 25 cards, thats still $37.50 and its only a small portion of how many SPs youre asking for. If you see a lot of 75 different SP on ebay in one lot I guarantee the price would be over $150 for um, I dont think anyone on this thread would anticipate anything less.
Think about it this way though, Beckett lists the 06 set as a high of $400 and the base set at only $60; 110 SP = $340 under that theory which is a steal at just over $3 each. This isnt even taking into consideration the Variations which dont factor into the set cost but are valued at the same cost of a SP.
Now, youre asking for 75 SP and 12 Variations ~ thats 87 cards which would have a book value of probably $5-$10 each. What youre offering was originally 2 nice cards which had a value of about $30-$40 and have since upped that to 4 cards which carry a value maybe in the $80-$100 range. It would be wiser for someone to just buy those 4 cards individually on ebay though, then sell the 87 SP for what would probably fetch $150-200. See why it would be tough for someone to bite on your offer?
Most of us are in a situation where we are buying a case max then trading to fill in the holes, the few people who have bout multiple cases are trading to fill what is probably two sets or using the amount of SPs they have to finish their Chrome sets (which is nearly impossible to build off buying boxes at a ratio of 1:12) and to get Relic cards. We are all in a situation where we will have tons of doubles on the common cards, and it obvious that you would like to build a set without that being the case, putting little effort into it as a whole. Unfortunately this is not a set which can be done like that unless you are willing to greatly over pay for it. My suggestion would probably be to just buy a master set off Ebay the next time one is listed and figure that the $250-300 or so it cost you is minor in comparison to what building one would have cost.
Currently searching for 05 Upper Deck Origins & Old Judge Autos #/5 (Feller, Hafner, V.Martinez & Rosen) and 06 SP Authentic “By The Numbers” Letter Autos (Sabathia, Hafner, Sowers, V.Martinez & Lee)
<< <i>You just can't use ebay all the time. If you need 25 short prints, then it has to be worth a little more to get all and only those from someone here rather than trying to pick up lots that may have some cards you need and some extras. There is always a curve when you buy in mass. If you can hack the extra fees, you will make more on 10 10 card lots than one 100 card lot.
Kevin >>
Kevin, I hear what you are saying but wanted to point one small thing out...
A "100 different SP lot" would fetch a comanding price as it would cover all the holes you have when there are only 110 anyway. Its the mid level lots (20-40) which really get the low return, they are the ones where you end up needing about half of them and it still leaves you with so many to get so a high amount isnt worth paying. If I had 40 different SPs I would probably list them in lots of 10 as I know people would jump quicker, if I had 60-70 though I might be torn as to the best way to get the most possible.
Currently searching for 05 Upper Deck Origins & Old Judge Autos #/5 (Feller, Hafner, V.Martinez & Rosen) and 06 SP Authentic “By The Numbers” Letter Autos (Sabathia, Hafner, Sowers, V.Martinez & Lee)
Like the others said, you have a great idea for a fun way to trade cards but I dont think you grasp how valuable the SPs are when it boils down to it. Think about it in terms of the math for a second: SP = 1:2 packs, Hobby Box = 24 packs ~~~ 12 SP per Hobby Box Hobby case = 12 boxes; 12 boxes at 12 SP each = 96 Short Prints per case now remember there are 110 SP total in the set and you only get 144 of them per case! Thats only 34 doubles if you get perfect insertion. Its logical that people buying multiple cases are probably going to put together at least two sets as well, they will have the cards to do so after all.
Look in Beckett though and see what SPs at a 1:2 ratio usually book for ~ esp when there is that many of them. Last years Topps Heritage SP commons list for $8 each ~ thats a lot for what looks like a common card but it speaks to how hard they are to pull! You mentioned that larger lots went for about $1.50 each over large lots ~ well if the lot was 25 cards, thats still $37.50 and its only a small portion of how many SPs youre asking for. If you see a lot of 75 different SP on ebay in one lot I guarantee the price would be over $150 for um, I dont think anyone on this thread would anticipate anything less.
Think about it this way though, Beckett lists the 06 set as a high of $400 and the base set at only $60; 110 SP = $340 under that theory which is a steal at just over $3 each. This isnt even taking into consideration the Variations which dont factor into the set cost but are valued at the same cost of a SP.
Now, youre asking for 75 SP and 12 Variations ~ thats 87 cards which would have a book value of probably $5-$10 each. What youre offering was originally 2 nice cards which had a value of about $30-$40 and have since upped that to 4 cards which carry a value maybe in the $80-$100 range. It would be wiser for someone to just buy those 4 cards individually on ebay though, then sell the 87 SP for what would probably fetch $150-200. See why it would be tough for someone to bite on your offer?
Most of us are in a situation where we are buying a case max then trading to fill in the holes, the few people who have bout multiple cases are trading to fill what is probably two sets or using the amount of SPs they have to finish their Chrome sets (which is nearly impossible to build off buying boxes at a ratio of 1:12) and to get Relic cards. We are all in a situation where we will have tons of doubles on the common cards, and it obvious that you would like to build a set without that being the case, putting little effort into it as a whole. Unfortunately this is not a set which can be done like that unless you are willing to greatly over pay for it. My suggestion would probably be to just buy a master set off Ebay the next time one is listed and figure that the $250-300 or so it cost you is minor in comparison to what building one would have cost. >>
Shea, I don't think any of us could have put it better. Nam, like others have said, you have a terrific idea, but the offered tradeoff for the gang doesn't justify what we are being asked to provide.
<< <i>Shea, I don't think any of us could have put it better. Nam, like others have said, you have a terrific idea, but the offered tradeoff for the gang doesn't justify what we are being asked to provide.
Geordie >>
thank you Geordie, although someone probably could have said it a little better by leaving out that math error I had in the second paragraph and a couple of the spelling mistakes
For the record it should read: SP = 1:2 packs, Hobby Box = 24 packs ~~~ 12 SP per Hobby Box Hobby case = 12 boxes; 12 boxes at 12 SP each = ***144*** Short Prints per case I had it right in the next sentence but I did make that early booboo by originally factoring it for a 8 box case like we see on Ebay for the 06 Heritage.
All that being said, I have plenty of 1967 Topps left over as doubles from the set I am putting together ~ anyone wanting to trade lots of those for SPs let me know
Oh, and more importantly for my set I have an updated trade list based off a couple more trades I was able to get set up:
Also any Indians Chrome, Refractors, Blacks, Relics and Autos! I know about these: THC47 Peralta ~ (need Refractor and Black Ref ~ I have the Peralta Chrome ) THC69 Martinez ~ (all there needed / Chrome, Refractor and Black Ref) CC-VM Victor Martinez Relic … But there could be more as I don’t have a total checklist of the Cho/Auto/Relics. It’s probably easier to just say “if you have an Indians special card please contact me!” (Contact me on these and we can work something out I imagine. I have 19Cho, 5Ref, 5Rel and money to complete a deal if needed) I would also be interested in other SP or insert Indians cards from any year ~ I’m a huge fan and try to get all the Tribe cards I can.
~~~ NO LONGER NEEDED ~~~Oh lastly I am in search of the 2007 Topps Generation Now #194 (I think, maybe 195) which is Jered Weaver Win #9 (I was at the game so…) ~~~ Doesnt anyone have this stupid thing (((Update: Yay for Geordie for coming up with this piece of... err... great card for me )))
Just finished opening my 8th and final hobby case. Ended up with 12 autos (will post scans later this week), 5 black refractors and tons of everything else. I am looking for multiples of the following commons to fill out some missing spots, and will trade commons or sp's for them. IM me if you have these for trade -- preferably multiples of each. Thanks!
106 Scott Rolen 206 Andrew Miller 210 Jim Edmonds
I may add more as I continue to sort through these!
Knopfler, I am curious...how many Clubhouse and seat relics did 8 cases yeild?
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Hey guys, I ripped late into the night and my cases yielded some good cards, although I could have quit after the first pack! Overall not as good as my first rip, but it started out with a bang and I pulled a Kaline real one with 3 packs to go.....so it ended well!
Besides the L.A. auto I pulled a Bill Taylor Blue real one and an Al Kaline blue real one.
Most of the refractors I hit I needed for my set, I'm not quite half way there on that one and could use some help.
The chromes were mosltly doubles of what I have, so I will still need about 8 of those. Have lots to trade now.
I pulled a number of relics.....and 3 stadium seats! Unfortunately a lot of the clubhouse collection were cards I had, but all of the seat relics were cards I did not have so that was good. I am trying to complete both of those this year and still working on last year's too.
The SP balance was not so good these two cases. I have a lot of holes to fill and am now needing back some of the cards I traded away! Oh well................
The Mantle and AROD inserts missed my want list completely, so now I am sitting with tons of multiples on those while still not pulling only 1 #29 and 2 #4 in all the packs I've opened.
I will be posting my want list (hopefully) later today.
If you have cards (especially refractors and relics) that you want to trade I am in need of quite a few. PM me and we can work a deal if you want to trade (some of you again) with me!
Travis
Trying to complete: 2000 Bowman Chrome 2002 Topps Heritage NAP 2003 Topps Heritage chrome and seat relics 2006 Topps Heritage refractors and relics 2007 Topps Heritage refractors and relics 2008 Topps Heritage refractors and relics 2006 Topps Heritage and Topps Chrome football
I also pulled 3 of the blank front/back cards from the 2 cases. I had not pulled any of these before. Was this supposed to be the Dice-K?? Anyone pulled these....do they have ANY value?
Edit: Ending for .99 on Ebay so not alot of value....but I guess I could put it in my set and know that it may be the 'mystery' card. Maybe Topps will redeem? has anyone tried this?
Trying to complete: 2000 Bowman Chrome 2002 Topps Heritage NAP 2003 Topps Heritage chrome and seat relics 2006 Topps Heritage refractors and relics 2007 Topps Heritage refractors and relics 2008 Topps Heritage refractors and relics 2006 Topps Heritage and Topps Chrome football
Besides Target and Toys R Us, both of which I hit already (and there are no Wal Marts in NY or at least none in the 5 burroughs) are there any other retailers that sell heritage blasters?
<< <i>Besides Target and Toys R Us, both of which I hit already (and there are no Wal Marts in NY or at least none in the 5 burroughs) are there any other retailers that sell heritage blasters?
Under the heading of too much time on my hands.......Every SP that ends in a number less than 5 (ex. 103, 294, 321 etc...) has it's mirror image number thats an SP too.
103 - 301 294 - 492 321 - 123
and so on. Like I said, too much time on my hands.
Fellow Heritagers, May I be permitted to ask a silly question . . . How many cards are in a master set? I know there are:
35 of the usual inserts (10 Flashbacks, 10 Then and Nows and 15 New Ages performers). 384 base cards (most people say 385, but there is no card #145) 110 short prints 33 variations (17 name and 16 team) Do we agree that it adds up to 562 (And if you add the 42 Mantles -- they are '58 oriented, that makes 606). Is my math correct?
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<< <i>five7teen, you could always just order a case and hope to pull those last few, if you could hold out a day or two until I get my sorting done I'm sure I'll be able to help you out. I'm almost done with the two cases (I have three boxes left) and I've only been at it for eight straight hours, didn't even stop for dinner. I can say I easily am going to have a full day of sorting after I get these all opened, I think I'm actually getting a blister on my finger from opening all these packs. Hopefully I'll have a new trade list up tomorrow evening. No ink so far in this case, but have gotten four relics and two black refractors. Well back to ripping.... >>
I would be happy to wait - and until then, happy ripping. Eight straight hours and no dinner, if ever there was a better screen name, I haven't seen it...
ISO 1978 Topps Baseball in NM-MT High Grade Raw 3, 100, 103, 302, 347, 376, 416, 466, 481, 487, 509, 534, 540, 554, 579, 580, 622, 642, 673, 724__________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ISO 1978 O-Pee-Chee in NM-MT High Grade Raw12, 21, 29, 38, 49, 65, 69, 73, 74, 81, 95, 100, 104, 110, 115, 122, 132, 133, 135, 140, 142, 151, 153, 155, 160, 161, 167, 168, 172, 179, 181, 196, 200, 204, 210, 224, 231, 240
Kevin
Genuine 1958 Topps baseball #115 Jim Bunning EX- and #230 Richie Ashburn EX+.
Here is my 2007 Heritage wantlist:
Base still needed: 55, 69, 110, 187, 197, 254, 264, 337, 453, and 493.
SP's needed: 4, 5, 13, 14, 32, 40, 41, 50, 58, 59, 76, 77, 85, 86, 95, 103, 121, 122, 130, 139, 140, 149, 150, 158, 167, 168, 176, 177, 185, 194, 204, 212, 213, 222, 230, 240, 248, 249, 258, 266, 267, 275, 276, 284, 293, 311, 312, 320, 321, 330, 338, 339, 348, 357, 365, 374, 375, 384, 393, 401, 402, 410, 420, 428, 429, 437, 438, 446, 455, 464, 465, 473, 474, 482, and 483.
Yellow Team names needed: 13, 20, 77, 85, and 108.
Yellow Player's names needed: 8, 24, 61, 65, 87, 97, and 101.
My Registry Sets
SP's - 31, 41, 49, 50, 58, 76, 86, 103, 139, 185, 203, 204, 222, 230, 231, 258, 275, 276, 293, 302, 321, 329, 339, 348, 383, 392, 393, 410, 419, 474, 492
Yellow Player Name - 46, 57, 61
Yellow Team Name - 2, 35, 52, 108
NAP - 1, 2, 3, 8, 13, 14
T&N - 9
FB - None
I HAVE AVAILABLE
SP's - 374 (x2), 375
Yellow Player Name - 101
Yellow Team Name - 58 (bold), 85
NAP - None
T&N - 2, 4 (x2)
FB - 10
A-Rod - 60, 62, 65, 71, 73
Mantle - 3, 29, 30 (x2), 40
Chromes /1958 - 15, 41, 54
Refractors /558 - 57
Black /58 - 54
Felts - Cubs & Cards
Thanks
(((see later in thread for trade list of needs/wants)))
Currently searching for 05 Upper Deck Origins & Old Judge Autos #/5 (Feller, Hafner, V.Martinez & Rosen)
and 06 SP Authentic “By The Numbers” Letter Autos (Sabathia, Hafner, Sowers, V.Martinez & Lee)
PM sent.
David
Bobby Morgan Red Ink
2 sales here at $122 and $137, but I'll I have are 5 watchers so far....
Charley Rabe Blue Ink
One bid at $25, 3 watchers.
Jon Garland Chrome Refractor THC35
Piazza Chrome THC77
Jason Bay Chrome THC55
Oswaldo Navarro Chrome THC 50
Yankees Team and 3rd series checklist Chrome THC83
Jose Lopez Chrome THC59
Kirby Puckett Master Set
2000 Bowman Chrome
2002 Topps Heritage NAP
2003 Topps Heritage chrome and seat relics
2006 Topps Heritage refractors and relics
2007 Topps Heritage refractors and relics
2008 Topps Heritage refractors and relics
2006 Topps Heritage and Topps Chrome football
Tradelist
Chrome
28 Ted Lilly
Mantle HR
MHRC5
Then and Now
TN10 Spahn and Wang
Flashback
FB3 Schoendienst
Base
2, 7, 17, 25, 30, 33, 42, 51, 52, 79, 96, 97 YTN, 99, 108 YTN, 118, 141, 146,
147 YTN, 157, 162, 164, 180, 206, 218, 225, 233, 246, 251, 256, 282, 283, 291
296, 299, 304, 307, 328, 341, 351, 355 YTN, 359, 363, 378, 379, 380, 388, 391
394, 406, 421, 425, 426, 433, 436, 441, 448, 450, 469, 488, 489
All for trade, looking for Pirates and Nationals from any sets, preferably non-glossy stuff that can be signed.
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ISO 1978 Topps Baseball in NM-MT High Grade Raw 3, 100, 103, 302, 347, 376, 416, 466, 481, 487, 509, 534, 540, 554, 579, 580, 622, 642, 673, 724__________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ISO 1978 O-Pee-Chee in NM-MT High Grade Raw12, 21, 29, 38, 49, 65, 69, 73, 74, 81, 95, 100, 104, 110, 115, 122, 132, 133, 135, 140, 142, 151, 153, 155, 160, 161, 167, 168, 172, 179, 181, 196, 200, 204, 210, 224, 231, 240
<< <i>About 8 to 10 posts back up the thread I offered some vintage 1958's in sort of a "contest", and haven't seen one poster say a word about it (good or bad). Was it that terrible of an idea? Be honest sniff sniff I can handle it.
I think that this thread usually moves it such a quick pace that it's hard to follow.
Anywho...my list/wants are updated below. I'd sure like to at least get the base set complete if anyone can help. I have a stack of doubles for the base set if anyone needs anything....Just shoot me a pm. The boy and I are not going to do any of those additional sets so all of that stuff is up for trade for our SP's, etc....I'll trade the Manny Relic for a relic we don't have yet also. Thanks!
2007 HERITAGE NEEDS
Yellow Player Name: 8, 23, 46, 60, 65, 70, 87, 101
Yellow Team Name: 2, 11, 13, 20, 50, 52, 58 non bold, 77, 81, 85, 108
Short Prints: 13, 22, 23, 31, 32, 41, 50, 59, 67, 68, 85, 94, 103, 112, 130, 131, 140, 149, 150, 158, 159, 167, 168,
176, 185, 222, 230, 231, 239, 240, 248, 249, 266, 275, 276, 284, 293, 294, 302, 303,
320, 329, 330, 338, 339, 356, 365, 366, 374, 375, 384, 393, 401, 402, 410, 411, 429, 437, 447, 456, 464, 482, 483,
Needed for the Base Set:
16, 57, 60, 63, 70, 75, 81, 92, 129, 145, 151, 153, 160, 163, 179, 180, 183, 196, 205, 208, 224, 229, 247, 261, 295, 298, 316, 345, 350, 353, 362, 367, 379, 382, 386, 387, 404, 405, 414, 431, 459, 467, 476, 481,
AVAILABLE TO TRADE (some are enroute to me as part of larger trades)
Yellow Player : 53, 98
Yellow Team: 58Bold
Short Print: 4, 131, 194, 212, 312, 419, 428, 455
Mantle HR: 2, 10, 13, 15, 20, 28, 28, 30, 40, 42
Then & Now: 2, 4, 5
Arod: 19, 23, 64, 64, 69,
Flashback: 4, 7, 9
New Age Performers: 1, 3, 4, 5, 13, 13
xxxx/1958's Chromes: 22, 85, 87, 102
Clubhouse Relic : Manny Ramirez Jersey
<< <i>I think that this thread usually moves it such a quick pace that it's hard to follow. >>
OK then here it is again:
To drive home Kevin and Dan's points about the Heritage train getting bigger and bigger, and more vintage guys getting into Heritage (like myself), I decided to try something fun. The first guy that PM's me that he can complete my 2007 Heritage wantlist will receive these 2 beauties below. Hopefully this will be kind of a fun "contest" so to speak. My list is below the scan, so if this interests you, start the trading amongst each other to fill in my gaps. For guys that busted a few cases this may take very little extra trading to find my SPs.
Genuine 1958 Topps baseball #115 Jim Bunning EX- and #230 Richie Ashburn EX+.
Here is my 2007 Heritage wantlist:
Base still needed: 55, 69, 110, 187, 197, 254, 264, 337, 453, and 493.
SP's needed: 4, 5, 13, 14, 32, 40, 41, 50, 58, 59, 76, 77, 85, 86, 95, 103, 121, 122, 130, 139, 140, 149, 150, 158, 167, 168, 176, 177, 185, 194, 204, 212, 213, 222, 230, 240, 248, 249, 258, 266, 267, 275, 276, 284, 293, 311, 312, 320, 321, 330, 338, 339, 348, 357, 365, 374, 375, 384, 393, 401, 402, 410, 420, 428, 429, 437, 438, 446, 455, 464, 465, 473, 474, 482, and 483.
Yellow Team names needed: 13, 20, 77, 85, and 108.
Yellow Player's names needed: 8, 24, 61, 65, 87, 97, and 101.
I think it is a GREAT idea! Unfortunately since your list includes more than 75 different SPs, most people would not want to give up 75+ SPs for your 2 cards although I would love to add those cards to the 1958 Topps set that I am working on! I hope to see more posts similar to yours but in my opinion no one will want to offer cards worth hundreds of dollars for two cards that combine for $35 worthin the conditions they are in. Now if you offered those cards for 5 SPs then I am sure you would be able to make a trade! Just my two cents worth.....
Craig in Texas
<< <i>About 8 to 10 posts back up the thread I offered some vintage 1958's in sort of a "contest", and haven't seen one poster say a word about it (good or bad). Was it that terrible of an idea? Be honest sniff sniff I can handle it.
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<< <i>Well Mantle Williams and Maris RC arent making there way into the ring. The last few days SPs are going for about $1.50 each in large lots (25 or more), but this wasnt intended for a guy to take the offer who needs to sell his SPs to buy formula for his infant. It was for the guy who cracked multiple cases, had tons of SPs, and wanted to have a few mid grade original 1958 Hall of Famers. Those 4 are it, and if I get no takers, so be it. I wanted to try something fun with a twist. Anyone interested can PM me anytime. >>
Great idea but I don't think anybody mentioned infant formula? Again, GREAT idea BUT fair market is fair market. Heritage is not your average modern issue and even now. ..... that load of SP's command more respect then the vintage raw in the apparent condition of the scans. I only say this because you obviously are a little bit bent .... why else make the infant formula comment? GREAT IDEA ..... make it COMPARABLE
ISO 1978 Topps Baseball in NM-MT High Grade Raw 3, 100, 103, 302, 347, 376, 416, 466, 481, 487, 509, 534, 540, 554, 579, 580, 622, 642, 673, 724__________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ISO 1978 O-Pee-Chee in NM-MT High Grade Raw12, 21, 29, 38, 49, 65, 69, 73, 74, 81, 95, 100, 104, 110, 115, 122, 132, 133, 135, 140, 142, 151, 153, 155, 160, 161, 167, 168, 172, 179, 181, 196, 200, 204, 210, 224, 231, 240
SPs: 4, 5, 23, 94, 150, 158, 195, 203, 212, 266, 284, 303, 383, 411, 464, 483
Yellow Name: 24, 46, 61, 98, 101
Yellow Team: 2, 20, 81, 108
New Age Performers: 3, 10
Mantle Home Runs: 2, 5, 6, 14, 23, 27, 30, 32, 34, 37
Here is what I have available for trade:
Yellow Name: 8, 23, 60, 87
Yellow Team: 13, 52, 52, 77, 85
Then & Now: 2, 3, 3, 9
Flashbacks: 1, 1, 4, 5, 7, 8, 9
Mantle Home Runs: 4, 9, 12, 16, 35, 36
ARod Chase: 63, 69, 69
I can paypal any differences between trades or outright buying if anyone has some of these to spare! Thanks for looking guys!
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from someone here rather than trying to pick up lots that may have some cards you need and some extras. There is always a
curve when you buy in mass. If you can hack the extra fees, you will make more on 10 10 card lots than one 100 card lot.
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Like the others said, you have a great idea for a fun way to trade cards but I dont think you grasp how valuable the SPs are when it boils down to it. Think about it in terms of the math for a second:
SP = 1:2 packs, Hobby Box = 24 packs ~~~ 12 SP per Hobby Box
Hobby case = 12 boxes; 12 boxes at 12 SP each = 96 Short Prints per case
now remember there are 110 SP total in the set and you only get 144 of them per case! Thats only 34 doubles if you get perfect insertion. Its logical that people buying multiple cases are probably going to put together at least two sets as well, they will have the cards to do so after all.
Look in Beckett though and see what SPs at a 1:2 ratio usually book for ~ esp when there is that many of them. Last years Topps Heritage SP commons list for $8 each ~ thats a lot for what looks like a common card but it speaks to how hard they are to pull! You mentioned that larger lots went for about $1.50 each over large lots ~ well if the lot was 25 cards, thats still $37.50 and its only a small portion of how many SPs youre asking for. If you see a lot of 75 different SP on ebay in one lot I guarantee the price would be over $150 for um, I dont think anyone on this thread would anticipate anything less.
Think about it this way though, Beckett lists the 06 set as a high of $400 and the base set at only $60; 110 SP = $340 under that theory which is a steal at just over $3 each. This isnt even taking into consideration the Variations which dont factor into the set cost but are valued at the same cost of a SP.
Now, youre asking for 75 SP and 12 Variations ~ thats 87 cards which would have a book value of probably $5-$10 each. What youre offering was originally 2 nice cards which had a value of about $30-$40 and have since upped that to 4 cards which carry a value maybe in the $80-$100 range. It would be wiser for someone to just buy those 4 cards individually on ebay though, then sell the 87 SP for what would probably fetch $150-200. See why it would be tough for someone to bite on your offer?
Most of us are in a situation where we are buying a case max then trading to fill in the holes, the few people who have bout multiple cases are trading to fill what is probably two sets or using the amount of SPs they have to finish their Chrome sets (which is nearly impossible to build off buying boxes at a ratio of 1:12) and to get Relic cards. We are all in a situation where we will have tons of doubles on the common cards, and it obvious that you would like to build a set without that being the case, putting little effort into it as a whole. Unfortunately this is not a set which can be done like that unless you are willing to greatly over pay for it. My suggestion would probably be to just buy a master set off Ebay the next time one is listed and figure that the $250-300 or so it cost you is minor in comparison to what building one would have cost.
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and 06 SP Authentic “By The Numbers” Letter Autos (Sabathia, Hafner, Sowers, V.Martinez & Lee)
<< <i>You just can't use ebay all the time. If you need 25 short prints, then it has to be worth a little more to get all and only those
from someone here rather than trying to pick up lots that may have some cards you need and some extras. There is always a
curve when you buy in mass. If you can hack the extra fees, you will make more on 10 10 card lots than one 100 card lot.
Kevin >>
Kevin, I hear what you are saying but wanted to point one small thing out...
A "100 different SP lot" would fetch a comanding price as it would cover all the holes you have when there are only 110 anyway. Its the mid level lots (20-40) which really get the low return, they are the ones where you end up needing about half of them and it still leaves you with so many to get so a high amount isnt worth paying. If I had 40 different SPs I would probably list them in lots of 10 as I know people would jump quicker, if I had 60-70 though I might be torn as to the best way to get the most possible.
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and 06 SP Authentic “By The Numbers” Letter Autos (Sabathia, Hafner, Sowers, V.Martinez & Lee)
<< <i>Nam,
Like the others said, you have a great idea for a fun way to trade cards but I dont think you grasp how valuable the SPs are when it boils down to it. Think about it in terms of the math for a second:
SP = 1:2 packs, Hobby Box = 24 packs ~~~ 12 SP per Hobby Box
Hobby case = 12 boxes; 12 boxes at 12 SP each = 96 Short Prints per case
now remember there are 110 SP total in the set and you only get 144 of them per case! Thats only 34 doubles if you get perfect insertion. Its logical that people buying multiple cases are probably going to put together at least two sets as well, they will have the cards to do so after all.
Look in Beckett though and see what SPs at a 1:2 ratio usually book for ~ esp when there is that many of them. Last years Topps Heritage SP commons list for $8 each ~ thats a lot for what looks like a common card but it speaks to how hard they are to pull! You mentioned that larger lots went for about $1.50 each over large lots ~ well if the lot was 25 cards, thats still $37.50 and its only a small portion of how many SPs youre asking for. If you see a lot of 75 different SP on ebay in one lot I guarantee the price would be over $150 for um, I dont think anyone on this thread would anticipate anything less.
Think about it this way though, Beckett lists the 06 set as a high of $400 and the base set at only $60; 110 SP = $340 under that theory which is a steal at just over $3 each. This isnt even taking into consideration the Variations which dont factor into the set cost but are valued at the same cost of a SP.
Now, youre asking for 75 SP and 12 Variations ~ thats 87 cards which would have a book value of probably $5-$10 each. What youre offering was originally 2 nice cards which had a value of about $30-$40 and have since upped that to 4 cards which carry a value maybe in the $80-$100 range. It would be wiser for someone to just buy those 4 cards individually on ebay though, then sell the 87 SP for what would probably fetch $150-200. See why it would be tough for someone to bite on your offer?
Most of us are in a situation where we are buying a case max then trading to fill in the holes, the few people who have bout multiple cases are trading to fill what is probably two sets or using the amount of SPs they have to finish their Chrome sets (which is nearly impossible to build off buying boxes at a ratio of 1:12) and to get Relic cards. We are all in a situation where we will have tons of doubles on the common cards, and it obvious that you would like to build a set without that being the case, putting little effort into it as a whole. Unfortunately this is not a set which can be done like that unless you are willing to greatly over pay for it. My suggestion would probably be to just buy a master set off Ebay the next time one is listed and figure that the $250-300 or so it cost you is minor in comparison to what building one would have cost. >>
Shea, I don't think any of us could have put it better. Nam, like others have said, you have a terrific idea, but the offered tradeoff for the gang doesn't justify what we are being asked to provide.
Geordie
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<< <i>Shea, I don't think any of us could have put it better. Nam, like others have said, you have a terrific idea, but the offered tradeoff for the gang doesn't justify what we are being asked to provide.
Geordie >>
thank you Geordie, although someone probably could have said it a little better by leaving out that math error I had in the second paragraph and a couple of the spelling mistakes
For the record it should read:
SP = 1:2 packs, Hobby Box = 24 packs ~~~ 12 SP per Hobby Box
Hobby case = 12 boxes; 12 boxes at 12 SP each = ***144*** Short Prints per case
I had it right in the next sentence but I did make that early booboo by originally factoring it for a 8 box case like we see on Ebay for the 06 Heritage.
All that being said, I have plenty of 1967 Topps left over as doubles from the set I am putting together ~ anyone wanting to trade lots of those for SPs let me know
Oh, and more importantly for my set I have an updated trade list based off a couple more trades I was able to get set up:
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Needed:
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SPs
58, 121, 158, 167, 168, 185, 186, 213, 221, 257, 276, 293 (2), 294, 302, 339, 347, 348, 374, 392, 393, 420, 446, 465, 473, 482
Yellow Team Name:
2, 79
Yellow Player Name:
30, 57, 92
Inserts…
Then & Now:
~ Nothing
Flash Backs:
~ Nothing
New Age Performers:
2, 5, 9, 14, 15
Mantle:
5, 7, 13, 18, 20, 23, 29, 39
Also any Indians Chrome, Refractors, Blacks, Relics and Autos! I know about these:
THC47 Peralta ~ (need Refractor and Black Ref ~ I have the Peralta Chrome )
THC69 Martinez ~ (all there needed / Chrome, Refractor and Black Ref)
CC-VM Victor Martinez Relic
… But there could be more as I don’t have a total checklist of the Cho/Auto/Relics. It’s probably easier to just say “if you have an Indians special card please contact me!”
(Contact me on these and we can work something out I imagine. I have 19Cho, 5Ref, 5Rel and money to complete a deal if needed)
I would also be interested in other SP or insert Indians cards from any year ~ I’m a huge fan and try to get all the Tribe cards I can.
~~~ NO LONGER NEEDED ~~~Oh lastly I am in search of the 2007 Topps Generation Now #194 (I think, maybe 195) which is Jered Weaver Win #9 (I was at the game so…) ~~~ Doesnt anyone have this stupid thing
(((Update: Yay for Geordie for coming up with this piece of... err... great card for me
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What I have to trade:
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SPs:
50 (2), 94, 113, 130 (2), 139, 177, 195, 204, 240 (2), 303, 321 (2), 402, 411, 464
Var:
11, 13, 20, 24, 52, 81 (3), 101
T&N:
10
FB:
2, 3, 6 (5), 9 (2), 10 (3)
NAP:
6, 8
Mantle:
12, 15 (2), 36
Chrome:
19
Thanks a ton again everybody I’ve dealt with already!
Shea
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Just finished opening my 8th and final hobby case. Ended up with 12 autos (will post scans later this week), 5 black refractors and tons of everything else. I am looking for multiples of the following commons to fill out some missing spots, and will trade commons or sp's for them. IM me if you have these for trade -- preferably multiples of each. Thanks!
106 Scott Rolen
206 Andrew Miller
210 Jim Edmonds
I may add more as I continue to sort through these!
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Besides the L.A. auto I pulled a Bill Taylor Blue real one and an Al Kaline blue real one.
Most of the refractors I hit I needed for my set, I'm not quite half way there on that one and could use some help.
The chromes were mosltly doubles of what I have, so I will still need about 8 of those. Have lots to trade now.
I pulled a number of relics.....and 3 stadium seats! Unfortunately a lot of the clubhouse collection were cards I had, but all of the seat relics were cards I did not have so that was good. I am trying to complete both of those this year and still working on last year's too.
The SP balance was not so good these two cases. I have a lot of holes to fill and am now needing back some of the cards I traded away! Oh well................
The Mantle and AROD inserts missed my want list completely, so now I am sitting with tons of multiples on those while still not pulling only 1 #29 and 2 #4 in all the packs I've opened.
I will be posting my want list (hopefully) later today.
If you have cards (especially refractors and relics) that you want to trade I am in need of quite a few. PM me and we can work a deal if you want to trade (some of you again) with me!
Travis
2000 Bowman Chrome
2002 Topps Heritage NAP
2003 Topps Heritage chrome and seat relics
2006 Topps Heritage refractors and relics
2007 Topps Heritage refractors and relics
2008 Topps Heritage refractors and relics
2006 Topps Heritage and Topps Chrome football
Edit: Ending for .99 on Ebay so not alot of value....but I guess I could put it in my set and know that it may be the 'mystery' card. Maybe Topps will redeem? has anyone tried this?
2000 Bowman Chrome
2002 Topps Heritage NAP
2003 Topps Heritage chrome and seat relics
2006 Topps Heritage refractors and relics
2007 Topps Heritage refractors and relics
2008 Topps Heritage refractors and relics
2006 Topps Heritage and Topps Chrome football
I haven't counted the Clubhouse and seats yet, but I'm guessing at least 40-50 off the top of my head.
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<< <i>Besides Target and Toys R Us, both of which I hit already (and there are no Wal Marts in NY or at least none in the 5 burroughs) are there any other retailers that sell heritage blasters?
Thanks, Nick >>
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103 - 301
294 - 492
321 - 123
and so on. Like I said, too much time on my hands.
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Fellow Heritagers,
May I be permitted to ask a silly question . . .
How many cards are in a master set?
I know there are:
35 of the usual inserts (10 Flashbacks, 10 Then and Nows and 15 New Ages performers).
384 base cards (most people say 385, but there is no card #145)
110 short prints
33 variations (17 name and 16 team)
Do we agree that it adds up to 562
(And if you add the 42 Mantles -- they are '58 oriented, that makes 606).
Is my math correct?