I propose a new numismatic term...

MikeKing

Organic!

As I asked across the street: Whatdya think???

JJM

"Fairly Traded" Organic !!!!

Cam40

does that mean enviromental damage?
or a coin with old dirt on it, as in not cleaned, original?

stev32k

Maybe it means a dug coin - one that has been in the ground so long it has gone organic.

JJM

I would think Organic means Original, crust , toned

lathmach

A new numismatic term? Hmmmm........... okay.
You know, "Organic" doesn't really do anything coiny, that I can see.
How about "Coinorganite", used when referring to a crappy coin?
You know, like "Milorganite", the fertilizer Milwaukee makes from their sewage.

Ray

FatMan

Cool, a coin that's good for you to eat.

MrHalfDime

I would submit that it is not enough to merely propose a new numismatic term without also proposing a definition. What do you suggest it would mean, numismatically speaking?

JRocco

Hey Mike,
You mean like the stuff that I so regularly (thank you fiber) give back to nature ???

carl

As if there isn't enough coin terminology now. Organic would indicate a coin made of a HydroCarbon. Actually a decent term for the plastic Mill Tax Tokens used back in the 30's and 40's.

Russ

In the world of search engines, organic means the real search results as opposed to the paid search results. Thus, in numismatics, it might mean a coin that hasn't been manipulated in any way.

Russ, NCNE

Cam40

i,ve heard of foreign merchants putting faked ancients in goat feed so they come out
looking old,crusty,and toned for the hapless tourists to buy as the real deal.
i,d call those `organic ancients` lol

MikeKing

<< <i>In the world of search engines, organic means the real search results as opposed to the paid search results. Thus, in numismatics, it might mean a coin that hasn't been manipulated in any way.

Russ, NCNE >>



I think that's what I'm trying to get at. I really cannot define the term by myself. My feeling is that it's a fitting term for such coins, but also encompasses those 'naturally toned' coins that occured over years in things such as whitman folders and kraft envelopes.

Actually, I think you can judge the stability of the patina on the basis of compiling many factors on a coin that makes it appear the patination occured 'naturally', as opposed to being forced, cooked, branded with chemiques that radically alter surfaces, accelerated reactions that are less likely stable and not as appealing. Though, on the surface, many of the 'market acceptable' (definition by the TPGS never to be released in any form of verbiage) might look like they could pass for 'organic' just because their toning is exciting and doesn't shout FAKE.

It's like the difference between Organic and Inorganic chemistry. And NO, John, now your intestinal byproduct of vegetable metabolism. You can't digest cellulose anyway, so that's kind of messy...OK?

But I'd say that most of Johns coins appear to me to be organic, and Slumlords coins the most organic, if that makes any sense.

I displayed three of my own coins for critique from most organic/most worshipful to least organic/least worshipful, across the street, but I'm too tired to work on that here tonight.

I appreciate any input because I think it can pull together a lot of 'stuff'.

Conder101

Organic, fertilized with plenty of BS.

MikeKing

<< <i>Organic, fertilized with plenty of BS. >>



You're probably right.

UncleJoe

Very, very limited opportunity to use the term unless you were with the coin for all of its existence IMO.

Hey, that kinda applies to NT and AT.

Joe.

PerryHall

If a coin is a POS, does that make it organic?

Omega

<< <i>If a coin is a POS, does that make it organic? >>

ricko

Will this be just another hoax put upon the masses like organic food? Or 'first strike'? Unless it is truly meaningful, and will improve the hobby, then I see no need for it. People buy organic food 'because it is supposed to be good'... not because they understand it or even know if the food is truly organic, but they pay the extra money. Just like the 'low carb' craze - glad that is over too. Cheers, RickO