I propose a new numismatic term...

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MikeKing
MikeKing Posts: 847
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Organic!

As I asked across the street: Whatdya think???

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  • JJM
    JJM Posts: 8,129 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    "Fairly Traded" Organic !!!!image
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  • Cam40
    Cam40 Posts: 8,146 ✭
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    does that mean enviromental damage?
    or a coin with old dirt on it, as in not cleaned, original?
  • stev32k
    stev32k Posts: 2,098 ✭✭✭
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    Maybe it means a dug coin - one that has been in the ground so long it has gone organic.
    Who is General Failure, and why is he reading my hard drive?
  • JJM
    JJM Posts: 8,129 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I would think Organic means Original, crust , toned
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  • lathmach
    lathmach Posts: 4,720 ✭
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    A new numismatic term? Hmmmm........... okay.
    You know, "Organic" doesn't really do anything coiny, that I can see.
    How about "Coinorganite", used when referring to a crappy coin?
    You know, like "Milorganite", the fertilizer Milwaukee makes from their sewage.

    Ray
  • FatMan
    FatMan Posts: 8,977 ✭
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    Cool, a coin that's good for you to eat.image
  • MrHalfDime
    MrHalfDime Posts: 3,440 ✭✭✭✭
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    I would submit that it is not enough to merely propose a new numismatic term without also proposing a definition. What do you suggest it would mean, numismatically speaking?
    They that can give up essential Liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither Liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin
  • JRocco
    JRocco Posts: 14,277 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Hey Mike,
    You mean like the stuff that I so regularly (thank you fiber) give back to nature ???





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    Some coins are just plain "Interesting"
  • carl
    carl Posts: 2,054 ✭
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    As if there isn't enough coin terminology now. Organic would indicate a coin made of a HydroCarbon. Actually a decent term for the plastic Mill Tax Tokens used back in the 30's and 40's.
    Carl
  • Russ
    Russ Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭
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    In the world of search engines, organic means the real search results as opposed to the paid search results. Thus, in numismatics, it might mean a coin that hasn't been manipulated in any way.

    Russ, NCNE
    eBay consignment sales | | Collectibles from Resco CCC
  • Cam40
    Cam40 Posts: 8,146 ✭
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    i,ve heard of foreign merchants putting faked ancients in goat feed so they come out
    looking old,crusty,and toned for the hapless tourists to buy as the real deal.
    i,d call those `organic ancients` lol
  • MikeKing
    MikeKing Posts: 847
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    << <i>In the world of search engines, organic means the real search results as opposed to the paid search results. Thus, in numismatics, it might mean a coin that hasn't been manipulated in any way.

    Russ, NCNE >>



    I think that's what I'm trying to get at. I really cannot define the term by myself. My feeling is that it's a fitting term for such coins, but also encompasses those 'naturally toned' coins that occured over years in things such as whitman folders and kraft envelopes.

    Actually, I think you can judge the stability of the patina on the basis of compiling many factors on a coin that makes it appear the patination occured 'naturally', as opposed to being forced, cooked, branded with chemiques that radically alter surfaces, accelerated reactions that are less likely stable and not as appealing. Though, on the surface, many of the 'market acceptable' (definition by the TPGS never to be released in any form of verbiage) might look like they could pass for 'organic' just because their toning is exciting and doesn't shout FAKE.

    It's like the difference between Organic and Inorganic chemistry. And NO, John, now your intestinal byproduct of vegetable metabolism. You can't digest cellulose anyway, so that's kind of messy...OK?

    But I'd say that most of Johns coins appear to me to be organic, and Slumlords coins the most organic, if that makes any sense.

    I displayed three of my own coins for critique from most organic/most worshipful to least organic/least worshipful, across the street, but I'm too tired to work on that here tonight.

    I appreciate any input because I think it can pull together a lot of 'stuff'.

  • Conder101
    Conder101 Posts: 10,536 ✭
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    Organic, fertilized with plenty of BS.
  • MikeKing
    MikeKing Posts: 847
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    << <i>Organic, fertilized with plenty of BS. >>



    You're probably right.
  • UncleJoe
    UncleJoe Posts: 2,552 ✭✭✭
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    Very, very limited opportunity to use the term unless you were with the coin for all of its existence IMO.

    Hey, that kinda applies to NT and AT. image

    Joe. image
  • PerryHall
    PerryHall Posts: 47,748 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    If a coin is a POS, does that make it organic?

    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
    "Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
    "Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire

  • Omega
    Omega Posts: 1,587 ✭✭✭
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    << <i>If a coin is a POS, does that make it organic? >>

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  • ricko
    ricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Will this be just another hoax put upon the masses like organic food? Or 'first strike'? Unless it is truly meaningful, and will improve the hobby, then I see no need for it. People buy organic food 'because it is supposed to be good'... not because they understand it or even know if the food is truly organic, but they pay the extra money. Just like the 'low carb' craze - glad that is over too. Cheers, RickO

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