So I have made it public that I think the 07-S Half is less scarce than was previously accepted in Mid-grades. Then I go and find yet another at a local B&M. I tried to put it back in the row box, saying I have one in 45 that I'm very happy with. Of the nice original Barbers I was admiring, a 99-S in XF, an 05-S in AU55, an 01-O quarter in choice VF were all take-home worthy, and after 1/2 an hour I'm going to buy something. So I brought home the Dupe. I'll just start a hoard.
We're all born MS70. I'm about a Fine 15 right now.
Wow! The scroll through Phase 1 of the Barber Quarter pics is We collectors appreciate the effort expended to find, collect and have expertly imaged your collection. Thanks for sharing.
Well, these two images are the last ones for awhile.
The only images missing are either newps or TruViewed and I'd like the entire set to have similar images. I'll add the newest images once I receive them.
I hope everyone has enjoyed my Quarters !
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I bought this this morning - it was a triplicate but it was so nice. So I started another Barber album. Library of Coins this time. Goal is fine with this look
<< <i>I bought this this morning - it was a triplicate but it was so nice. So I started another Barber album. Library of Coins this time. Goal is fine with this look >>
Wow, I looked for 6 years to find a 15s "common date" HA! like that, maybe one a little higher grade. But that coin is just sweet and I hope you can find 82 others just like it!! Like I said in the SLQ thread, you certainly have quite a few pans in the fire! That will keep you interested and adding pieces when waiting for the better dates. Please keep us posted with updates and thanks for taking time to post.
Do your best to avoid circular arguments, as it will help you reason better, because better reasoning is often a result of avoiding circular arguments.
Back to the rarity question, I spoke to an long term (almost called him an old-timer) dealer who has been in business for several decades and handled some really big rarities and he told me he wasn't sure he had ever had a mid-grade 93-S.
Seems the more I hear from other collectors, the more I hear about how rare the 93-S is. They are exremely difficult to locate... however they do show up with some irregularity. When they do - throw away all the price guides - and just pay the seller's price because you won't see another again for quite awhile... and when you do... you'll not be getting any bargain... just pay the seller what he wants and quit complaining how much over Grey Sheet the coin ask price is. Take the Grey Sheet and line the bird cage with it, as far as Barber coinage is concerned...
I have owned a half dozen + over the last six years; AU 58, 55, 50, 45, 40, 35, 30, 20. I still have my AU 58 which I bought from BF Johnson - and sold him my AU 50 and shortly there after my 55. He sold the 50 for close to what the 55 cost. I think we all did well with that exchange; I got a coin which is one of my favorites in the collection and he ended up with a beautifully toned 55 in his set [ ex: Cratylus ].
My most recent sale of an 1893-S EF 45 was almost the last coin hold out on my 2nd tier set.
My PCGS 50 1904-S Half, the last holdout from the 2nd set, was on consignment with Ponyexpress8, sold this past weekend at the Las Vegas show, thanks again, Glenn.
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Saw this one in the local coin shop today and couldn't pass it up. Seemed pretty nice for the MS61 grade and has a nice light subtle color to it, plus the old holder is pretty cool too.
The latest newsletter from Harry Laibstain Rare Coins has an article I wrote about set collecting, focusing on the barber half series. I don't know if it is yet available on his website for viewing.
No comments on the 1893-S PCGS VF35 that sold on Ebay for $1005? Or the raw "EF" (at least VF30 from what I can see) that sold for $669.99? After all the posts about how rare they are, I'm surprised nobody has mentioned these sales here.
<< <i>No comments on the 1893-S PCGS VF35 that sold on Ebay for $1005? Or the raw "EF" (at least VF30 from what I can see) that sold for $669.99? After all the posts about how rare they are, I'm surprised nobody has mentioned these sales here. >>
Didn't watch eBay recently - and I assume you're speaking of the 1893-S Half Dollar. Last month, I sold an 1893-S in PCGS XF 45 for $1625. Without seeing the raw "EF" I can't comment - but - the PCGS VF 35 was sold for a reasonable amount, IMHO.
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Lastly, here is the recent purchase of a 1908-O Quarter which was in a PCGS MS 64 holder on a BIN on eBay. I thought the coin would get a 64 + but I was very pleasantly surprised when I opened the package and saw this:
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I thought that was you bidding on it, I didn't bid, trying to find one in a grade i dont have Hell, I'm having problems finding a VG-8 or any for that matter other than fair or about good.
My apologies to Leon, but I have to be honest... that 93-S PCGS VF35 on Ebay was definitely overgraded and washed out. And there's WAY too much feather detail missing to be a 35. See for yourselves:
I don't mean any offense because it's a seriously tough date to find original... but seriously, if that coin is a VF35, then what does that make mine?:
Mine would have to be 2 grades better, which would make it an XF45... and there's just NO WAY my coin is an XF45. XF40 MAYBE on a good day.
I agree that it's likely not a 35, but those pictures were bad and it's much better in hand. In my opinion, all the key dates get spotted a few points...yours may have been graded on a bad day. I was unsure about bidding based on the photos, but I'm glad I did. Also, I had bought 3 other keys in similar grades for similar prices and I figured if they were worth it, the 93-S had to be. Ask me in 10 years if I got a bad deal.
Leon, You're lucky my bike broke on a 40-mile ride and I got back about 10 minutes after the auction closed. I would have bid considerably higher than the winning price. Can't say I'd win, though. It's perhaps best that I didn't bid on it, for my sake. I don't care for collecting slabbed coins as much as finding decent raw coins for my Dansco. Buying the 93-S would also spur me to resume collecting the series and I just can't do that at this time for financial reasons.
I also agree that the coin is probably more a VF30 than a VF35. Still, hard to come by.
Very nice 93-S's...regardless of the grade they are both very nice...the beauty of the coin is obviously in the eye of the beholder...good luck to both of you and I hope you both enjoy the "coin in hand".
Your 93-S is a nice coin and I think we all agree with that. Its just a case of overgrading. I think the coin's a 30. A solid 30.
Cary,
Your coin could be a 40 on a good day at PCGS - and a very choice 35 on a bad day. Let's call it a 35+ [ don't know if they give out plusses on VF's or not ! ? ]
Your 93-S is a nice coin and I think we all agree with that. Its just a case of overgrading. I think the coin's a 30. A solid 30.
Cary,
Your coin could be a 40 on a good day at PCGS - and a very choice 35 on a bad day. Let's call it a 35+ [ don't know if they give out plusses on VF's or not ! ? ]
Talking about the 93-S, I was looking at the POP reports and it is the undisputed king of the set in Fine 15 with only one having been graded. Throw out the common dates that aren't worth the effort and the next two legitimately toughest coins in F15 are the 05-P (1) and the 10-P (2), both nice low mintage issues. Heck, even that 08-P (1) might be a sleeper. Trivia. That's what I do.
Congrats on the pick up Leon. You'll never be sorry.
We're all born MS70. I'm about a Fine 15 right now.
Not sure of where the other 1893-S's are in 58 - but here's the one I bought out of Brandon's collection [ it sold at DLRC when I was in Ireland with my Dad in 2007 ].
I ended up selling Brandon a duplicate in AU 50 - then the AU 55 that I had bought from Cary a few years before. It seems as though this date is considered a "hoard date" by a few collectors ... ahem...ahem Ken...lol.
Edit to add: The 1908-P as well as the 1903-P have always been a bit difficult to locate in any nice collector grade... all the way up to AU 58.
BTW - love the 1908-S Dime - very pretty !!
Reedited: Dimeman sent me an email with the nicest 1895-S Dime with a very strong RPD; I copied it for my files - but - I'll let him show it off [ if he ever gets the hang of posting images; I too found it a bit daunting to get images to attach... just ask Todd / Pursuits of Liberty ]
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Doug Veal
Doug - Type One or Type Two ?
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Your type one from page 205 of the thread. Thanks!
Doug
Wheeeewwww, lots of nice quarters...even though I'm not an avid collector of this series, they have tremendous eye appeal!
Then I go and find yet another at a local B&M.
I tried to put it back in the row box, saying I have one in 45 that I'm very happy with.
Of the nice original Barbers I was admiring, a 99-S in XF, an 05-S in AU55, an 01-O quarter in choice VF were all take-home worthy, and after 1/2 an hour I'm going to buy something.
So I brought home the Dupe.
I'll just start a hoard.
Dennis,
The 1905-S in 55 is nothing to sniff at either.
I'm still looking for an AU 58.
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The 1896-O was posted earlier.
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Wow! The scroll through Phase 1 of the Barber Quarter pics is
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Thank you Craig. [ Very nice 09-S BTW !! ]
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Date Set:
Quarter Set:
I previously posted the 1898-S in AU 53 - and the newp, the Breen 4159, 1898-S/O, in PCGS 58, Secure Plus, is on its way to be imaged.
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The only images missing are either newps or TruViewed
and I'd like the entire set to have similar images. I'll add
the newest images once I receive them.
I hope everyone has enjoyed my Quarters !
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Saying Good Bye to an Old Friend.....
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Here's its replacement....
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<< <i>I bought this this morning - it was a triplicate but it was so nice. So I started another Barber album. Library of Coins this time. Goal is fine with this look
Wow, I looked for 6 years to find a 15s "common date" HA! like that, maybe one a little higher grade. But that coin is just sweet and I hope you can find 82 others just like it!!
Like I said in the SLQ thread, you certainly have quite a few pans in the fire! That will keep you interested and adding pieces when waiting for the better dates.
Please keep us posted with updates and thanks for taking time to post.
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For the other Mike, MFH, WOW, such beautiful coins, thanks for keeping this thread going!
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Seems the more I hear from other collectors,
the more I hear about how rare the 93-S is.
They are exremely difficult to locate... however
they do show up with some irregularity. When they
do - throw away all the price guides - and just pay the
seller's price because you won't see another again for
quite awhile... and when you do... you'll not be getting
any bargain... just pay the seller what he wants and quit
complaining how much over Grey Sheet the coin ask price is.
Take the Grey Sheet and line the bird cage with it, as far as
Barber coinage is concerned...
I have owned a half dozen + over the last six years;
AU 58, 55, 50, 45, 40, 35, 30, 20. I still have my AU 58
which I bought from BF Johnson - and sold him my AU 50
and shortly there after my 55. He sold the 50 for close to
what the 55 cost. I think we all did well with that exchange; I got
a coin which is one of my favorites in the collection and he ended up
with a beautifully toned 55 in his set [ ex: Cratylus ].
My most recent sale of an 1893-S EF 45 was almost the
last coin hold out on my 2nd tier set.
My PCGS 50 1904-S Half, the last holdout from the 2nd set, was on consignment
with Ponyexpress8, sold this past weekend at the Las Vegas show, thanks again, Glenn.
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Todd,
That's what I call a Full Head.
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I last mentioned the final set of
images - the 1899 above in MS 65
and another coin - which I forgot
to post... so here she is... 1899-S:
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I'll have more images once I get back from Sacramento.
Please remember to stop by table # 1110 if you're at the ANA
and say Hi to Glenn, Dennis88, and myself.
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Michael Kittle Rare Coins --- 1908-S Indian Head Cent Grading Set --- No. 1 1909 Mint Set --- Kittlecoins on Facebook --- Long Beach Table 448
If you had kept all of those 93-S's for a grading set, what an exhibit that would be.
Still looking for a lot of 93'S here.
Ken,
The key word here is HAD a bunch of 1893-S's...
just down to my better one, the AU 58.
Leon,
The 93-S is not a scarce coin as alot of people say it is...
its a Rare Coin .
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The color in the fields of you 15 Quarter is simply superb. I'll bet it looks great in hand.
Congrats!
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a few months back:
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Newer purchase - new image:
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<< <i>No comments on the 1893-S PCGS VF35 that sold on Ebay for $1005? Or the raw "EF" (at least VF30 from what I can see) that sold for $669.99? After all the posts about how rare they are, I'm surprised nobody has mentioned these sales here. >>
Didn't watch eBay recently - and I assume you're speaking of the 1893-S Half Dollar.
Last month, I sold an 1893-S in PCGS XF 45 for $1625. Without seeing the raw "EF"
I can't comment - but - the PCGS VF 35 was sold for a reasonable amount, IMHO.
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Another new image
I was hoping that this would get the Breen designation # 4159 - S / O RPM.
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A few more new images...
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Lastly, here is the recent purchase of a 1908-O Quarter which was in a PCGS MS 64 holder on a BIN on eBay. I thought
the coin would get a 64 + but I was very pleasantly surprised when I opened the package and saw this:
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Ken
Leon,
Congrats !! Hope it is exactly what you've been looking for !!
Ken,
PM sent.
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I don't mean any offense because it's a seriously tough date to find original... but seriously, if that coin is a VF35, then what does that make mine?:
Mine would have to be 2 grades better, which would make it an XF45... and there's just NO WAY my coin is an XF45. XF40 MAYBE on a good day.
I also agree that the coin is probably more a VF30 than a VF35. Still, hard to come by.
Cratylus: Beautiful 93-S!!!
Leon,
Your 93-S is a nice coin and I think we all agree with that.
Its just a case of overgrading. I think the coin's a 30. A solid 30.
Cary,
Your coin could be a 40 on a good day at PCGS - and a very
choice 35 on a bad day. Let's call it a 35+ [ don't know if they
give out plusses on VF's or not ! ? ]
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Both nice coins. Congrats on the pick up's.
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<< <i>Leon,
Your 93-S is a nice coin and I think we all agree with that.
Its just a case of overgrading. I think the coin's a 30. A solid 30.
Cary,
Your coin could be a 40 on a good day at PCGS - and a very
choice 35 on a bad day. Let's call it a 35+ [ don't know if they
give out plusses on VF's or not ! ? ]
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Both nice coins. Congrats on the pick up's. >>
Agree 100%. And I don't know if they would assign a "+" to a VF grade, my guess is no.
Trivia.
That's what I do.
Congrats on the pick up Leon. You'll never be sorry.
Not a high end example, but still decent eye-appeal.
of Brandon's collection [ it sold at DLRC when I was in Ireland with my Dad in 2007 ].
I ended up selling Brandon a duplicate in AU 50 - then the AU 55 that I had bought from
Cary a few years before. It seems as though this date is considered a "hoard date" by
a few collectors ... ahem...ahem Ken...lol.
Edit to add: The 1908-P as well as the 1903-P have always been a bit difficult to locate
in any nice collector grade... all the way up to AU 58.
BTW - love the 1908-S Dime - very pretty !!
Reedited: Dimeman sent me an email with the nicest 1895-S Dime with a very strong RPD;
I copied it for my files - but - I'll let him show it off [ if he ever gets the hang of posting images;
I too found it a bit daunting to get images to attach... just ask Todd / Pursuits of Liberty ]
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