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tradedollarnuttradedollarnut Posts: 20,162 ✭✭✭✭✭
Ever since reluctantly selling Cardinal the silver Harry Bass specimen that he netted almost $100k on [ image ], I've been on the lookout for one of these:

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  • What is it?
  • TomBTomB Posts: 21,461 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It looks like an ANR image, is that where it is from?
    Thomas Bush Numismatics & Numismatic Photography

    In honor of the memory of Cpl. Michael E. Thompson

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  • OK, that's cool!
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  • tradedollarnuttradedollarnut Posts: 20,162 ✭✭✭✭✭
    762.8 grains, 47.8 mm. One of the finest copper Libertas Americana medals we have seen in years. Glorious chocolate brown surfaces yield delicate blue, rose, and golden tones in the highly reflective fields, a magnificent display of color and lustre. The strike is full and superbly rendered, indeed, this piece is as finely detailed as any we have seen, and we have seen more than most. No digs are noted, and only the most fine and insignificant hairlines may be seen with scrutiny. We mention a vertical line from the back tresses to the exergual line, a short diagonal line under M of AMERICANA, and a similar line under IN of INFANS for the sake of future collectors tracing the pedigree of this specimen. None of these are mentioned because they affect visual appeal, instead they are so minor we point them out because we suspect this piece will look positively flawless even in an enlarged photograph. The aesthetic appeal is superlative—anyone would regard this medal as a beautiful work of art.

    No medal is in more demand among collectors of American coins, and for good reason: none can claim the dual honors of being both created by a Founding Father as a commemoration of the birth of this nation in addition to being the design inspiration for the most famous and attractive early American coinage types. Greater appreciation of this in recent years has led to many connoisseurs seeking out fine Libertas Americana medals to place in a collection of high-grade coins struck by the first U.S. Mint. As a result, gem specimens like this—once considered relatively common—are no longer seen on bourse floors or even auctions on a regular basis.

    The Libertas Americana medal is most famously associated with Benjamin Franklin, as the designs and legends were the result of his collaboration with other top minds of his era: Robert Livingston, who offered early encouragement; Sir William Jones, the Englishman who suggested a line from Horace be used as the reverse legend; fresco painter E.A. Gibelin, who was the first to sketch Franklin's conception. Of course, it was Franklin's friendship with the top French sculptor of the period, Augustin Dupre, that made the Libertas Americana medal an exceptionally beautiful monument to the American Liberty they both held in great esteem. Guided by Franklin's influence, it was Dupre who conceived the beautiful face of Liberty with flowing tresses that came to be the instantly identifiable face of the new nation.

    Franklin was very pleased with his creation. He found that Sir William Jones' suggestion for a reverse legend, translated as "The courageous child was aided by the gods," was perfectly applicable. It was probably Franklin's idea to show the lion, representing Great Britain, with its tail between its legs. Dupre's sketches, many of which are preserved at the American Philosophical Society in Philadelphia, show the tail out, then erased and tucked between the legs, as is Franklin interceded for the amendation of the design. When he wrote to Robert Livingston, who served with Franklin on the committee to create the Declaration of Independence, on April 15, 1783, Franklin reported general satisfaction with the design: "it is mightily well received, and gives general pleasure." He also included a specimen in silver for "the President of Congress" and mentioned that he presented "one in silver to each of the French ministers, as a monumental acknowledgement, which may go down in future ages, of the obligations we are under to this nation." Franklin, however, preferred the look of copper pieces, saying "the impression on copper is thought to appear best" and sending specimens to many of his personal friends and other acquaintances. Jefferson displayed one in a frame at Monticello, cataloguing it in his inventory of wall hangings as "Infant America protected by Minerva from the lion. A medal designed by Dr. Franklin." Washington received one, among other medals, as a gift from Jefferson in 1790. Displayed to acquaintances at Mount Vernon by Martha Washington (one such occasion is documented in June 1797), the piece is now at the Massachusetts Historical Society.



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  • RegulatedRegulated Posts: 2,992 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That brought an astounding price tonight.

    What is now proved was once only imagined. - William Blake
  • tradedollarnuttradedollarnut Posts: 20,162 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That brought an astounding price tonight.

    I thought it was cheap! image
  • BarndogBarndog Posts: 20,502 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'll guess that ANR likely expected a higher price too. I think they had it figured for a $40,000 price, no?
  • mrearlygoldmrearlygold Posts: 17,858 ✭✭✭
    Beautiful beautiful

    Congratulations image
  • RegulatedRegulated Posts: 2,992 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I should dig up Art's gilt example...

    What is now proved was once only imagined. - William Blake


  • << <i>That brought an astounding price tonight.

    I thought it was cheap! image >>



    Congrats image


  • I love that medal!

    I like the write up too. I would want to copyright that much text. image
  • curlycurly Posts: 2,880
    What a great medal (and so much history behind it)! It just points to how proud Ben Franklin was of his new country. Congratulations to whoever got it.
    Every man is a self made man.
  • FatManFatMan Posts: 8,977
    That scores a 10 on the FatMan Coolness Scale.image
  • LakesammmanLakesammman Posts: 17,408 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It was being offered raw at FUN for 25K - what did it bring at auction?
    "My friends who see my collection sometimes ask what something costs. I tell them and they are in awe at my stupidity." (Baccaruda, 12/03).I find it hard to believe that he (Trump) rushed to some hotel to meet girls of loose morals, although ours are undoubtedly the best in the world. (Putin 1/17) Gone but not forgotten. IGWT, Speedy, Bear, BigE, HokieFore, John Burns, Russ, TahoeDale, Dahlonega, Astrorat, Stewart Blay, Oldhoopster, Broadstruck, Ricko, Big Moose.
  • I thought it was both nice and comparitively cheap regardless of what it was sold at FUN for. Actually I don't get the NGC grade of only MS65--looks better.image
    morgannut2
  • LakesammmanLakesammman Posts: 17,408 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Was very impressive in person - almost a shame to have it slabbed.
    "My friends who see my collection sometimes ask what something costs. I tell them and they are in awe at my stupidity." (Baccaruda, 12/03).I find it hard to believe that he (Trump) rushed to some hotel to meet girls of loose morals, although ours are undoubtedly the best in the world. (Putin 1/17) Gone but not forgotten. IGWT, Speedy, Bear, BigE, HokieFore, John Burns, Russ, TahoeDale, Dahlonega, Astrorat, Stewart Blay, Oldhoopster, Broadstruck, Ricko, Big Moose.
  • pursuitoflibertypursuitofliberty Posts: 7,041 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Congrat's TDN ... awesome ... AWESOME ...

    WOW!!

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    “We are only their care-takers,” he posed, “if we take good care of them, then centuries from now they may still be here … ”

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  • curlycurly Posts: 2,880
    Since Ben Franklin has some history with this medal.....let me tell you a story. Ben was at one of his numerous parties overseas after the revolution when an English politician goaded him by saying that "....here in England, we keep a picture of George Washington in our outhouses". Good old Ben replied "...that is an excellant idea, for I can't think of anything that will make an Englishman s*it faster than George Washington." image
    Every man is a self made man.
  • LeeGLeeG Posts: 12,162
    TDN that is just one "Super" example. Seems like a very nice fit for the rest of the coins in your Collection. Congrat's!!!!!
  • pontiacinfpontiacinf Posts: 8,915 ✭✭
    congrats Bruce image
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    Go BIG or GO HOME. ©Bill
  • RYKRYK Posts: 35,797 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Great coin (medal, whatever image )! I recently read Bowers' chapter on them in More Adventures in Rare Coins--if you have not read it, I recommend that you do so. Enjoy!
  • SunnywoodSunnywood Posts: 2,683
    The Libertas Americana medal is a great piece of American history.
    The obverse design is the basis of most federal coinage for the next 100 years.
    Congrats to TDN for putting one of these back into his collection.
    (But he should have kept the silver one !!!!)

    Sunnywood
  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,222 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I have one in copper that I bought from Tony Terranova years ago.

    I know that that the silver one sells for big bucks, but I think the desing looks better in copper. This medal has a great history that equal or even better than the 1792 half disme. It's one of my favorites.
    Retired dealer and avid collector of U.S. type coins, 19th century presidential campaign medalets and selected medals. In recent years I have been working on a set of British coins - at least one coin from each king or queen who issued pieces that are collectible. I am also collecting at least one coin for each Roman emperor from Julius Caesar to ... ?
  • michaelmichael Posts: 9,524 ✭✭
    superb!!

    and it went for a really reasonable price
  • crispycrispy Posts: 792 ✭✭✭



    Truly a beautiful coin. Remarkable.



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  • mgoodm3mgoodm3 Posts: 17,497 ✭✭✭
    Great medal. Love the design.
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  • AZLARRYAZLARRY Posts: 1,189 ✭✭
    Drop dead gorgeous. image
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