A 1988 Donruss Dale Murphy in PSA 9 for $15 isn't that bad. It'll probably be quite a long time before you can upgrade that badboy to a 10, if a 10 will ever be graded that is. Good luck with the set though. Back in 1988, people didn't hoard cards and protect them like they do now. In 1988, not many people thought a baseball card would ever be worth a cent and many used the cards as spokes on bicycles or played with them. I don't even want to know how many mothers threw out shoeboxes full of good late 1980s baseball cards when their sons went off to school. Good luck on your set!
<< <i>Back in 1988, people didn't hoard cards and protect them like they do now. >>
Uh........dahurt, how would you like to get on the ground floor of purchasing 28 1989 fleer factory sets and 3 rack cases of 1988 fleer. I hoarded - I mean collected - these in 1988/89.
I still don't think that $4000 on this endeavor is that big of a waste of money. Graded card collecting has evolved many times over in the last 10 years and the buyers for certain cards will undoubtedly change in the coming years. Nobody on this board knows exactly what people will be buying in 5 years. 7 years ago, a very reputable PSA Authorized dealer, told me that it was absolutely insane to slab a 1975 Topps common card regardless of condition. Not only was that statement wrong, but a ton of dealers have made a ton of money since then on that "junk".
Who knows, maybe team collecting will be the next big thing in the graded market. That will open the doors to almost every card ever made. A 1988 Donruss Terry Steinbach PSA 10 may seem like a worthless card now, but in 2009 when graded team sets are the "big" thing, many Oakland A's collectors may need that card for their set. If fact, that card might interest me since I was a HUGE A's fan back in the day.
I'm not sure I agree. Even if you don't think that $4,000 is a big waste of money - you can spend 5% of that, or a little over $200, and get yourself four set cases to hedge your bets. That is 60 pristine unopened sets - and if the grading of this set ever comes around - you can spend the money on grading fees later. At $4,000 - too much of the money is going to the plastic slabs, I believe, compared to what you can buy bulk, unopened set product for. Too much of a disconnect. If you truly think it is an investment - buy a couple set cases and sit on them.
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In order to save some $$$, you might consider picking out the absolute best ones and then sending them to a company that does slab-only (no grade) "grading" like grademycards.com. Yeah, they're a haven for ripoff artists or whatever, but that's not a concern here. You could get your cards slabbed for just 99 cents each or given a "simple" grade for $1.99. That's a whole lot better than $5+ from PSA. Again, yeah, I know they're not exactly a reputable company, but if you're busting and submitting yourself, that shouldn't be a concern especially when balanced against the thousands of $$$$ you would save.
I'm not sure I agree. Even if you don't think that $4,000 is a big waste of money - you can spend 5% of that, or a little over $200, and get yourself four set cases to hedge your bets. That is 60 pristine unopened sets - and if the grading of this set ever comes around - you can spend the money on grading fees later. At $4,000 - too much of the money is going to the plastic slabs, I believe, compared to what you can buy bulk, unopened set product for. Too much of a disconnect. If you truly think it is an investment - buy a couple set cases and sit on them. >>
Yeah, I guess you have a point. You could turn $4000 over and over again in the next 5 years and turn it into a lot more than $4000. But that would take the fun out of his challenge. I guess what I'm saying is that if he's gonna do it anyways, there's a chance of a bright side.
Joe, take the 2 cards I sent you and use them as a guide. The 9 was very high end, it is as nice as any 88 donruss 10 that I got in the past. The eight is pretty typical of a eight. The toughest part is the chipping along the blue boarders. I would take a 5 power loupe and if you see any traces of chipping you will have no chance at a ten. Also look at the corners, if you see any white it will keep it from being a 9. This is just my past experience, some may have had better.
<< <i>Thanks Tabe. Well i broke down and bought a case of the factory sets from BBCE.
Is the sets easier to get high grades vs. the wax and rack boxs??
Joe >>
Joe - my experience with a few other products [e.g. not 1988 Donruss...] is that factory sets, especially when in the case form, are one of the best places to get high-grade cards. They often might be worse on some of the beginning and end cards - but overall it is a much better deal on the bargain. My recollection with the Donruss factory sets is that the cards are wrapped in six packs of 110 cards each - so there might be some potential damage to the end cards of each of those runs. But if those packs are not wrapped too tight and they have not been handled, you should be golden.
I am actively buying MIKE SCHMIDT gem mint baseball cards. Also looking for any 19th century cabinets of Philadephia Nationals. Please PM with additional details.
Just thought that I would add my two cents. I have been following the discussion and chimed in once before.
I have thought about doing a modern set a few times but the overall price puts me off from doing it. I would rather spend the money to have my Favre's graded instead. Thats just a personal choice. What I am more likely to do is have the key cards graded from the set as an example as to the general condition of my collection. I have nearly every baseball, football and basketball set that was made during the 80's. Major sets that is and many minor/odd ball ones to boot.
If you want to start this epic journey...I would agree with starting with the subsets...ie Diamond Kings (should have some HOFers), Rated Rookies and the MVP's. This would be a way to test your eyes vs. the experts. Take good notes, use a strong light, loupe if possible. Look for surface scratches. If I remember correct they were there on some of the 88 Donruss. Submit and see how they come back. That was what I had done with my first submissions. Most came back the way I wanted. If you question why based on your notes crack it an re-examine it. Right now at $5 a card its a great investment to learn how you grade and how they do. Even still I have gotten some back that I didnt belive the grade. I have recently cracked them and will be resubmitting them. I will post the results when I get them.
Just do what you want in terms of collecting this set.
Does anyone remember the teams books that Donruss sold in 1988. I have one of each that were issued. Cub's, A's, Yankee's and Met's I think. Cubs and A's for sure. I will check when I get home tonight. They had room for auto's in the front leaf. My A's have Big Mac's and Jose's sigs. Plus they also had cards that werent issued in the packs.
Jay
Packers Fan for Life Collecting: Brett Favre Master Set Favre Ticket Stubs Favre TD Reciever Autos Football HOF Player/etc. Auto Set Football HOF Rc's
Looks like I started a revolution. Hope they keep it up. Competition is what makes this so much fun. BTW Pittfan hope tonight’s a good game between my 'eers and your Pitt team. If you Watch College Basketball????
Joe
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I have been following the thread and thought I would add my cards to the 88 set. I am not competition although I think it's a cool set too. I remember building it at the time and what a problem the high numbers were relative to the rest. This set of cards and the 87 Donruss cards were among my first submissions and I now realize why I had so many 8's come back.
Brent
Collecting: Bo Jackson Basic(#1) and Master(#1) Bob Feller Basic(#4) Sam McDowell Basic(#1) 2004 Cracker Jack Master
Ken, Pitt had us beat worse than what the score showed. Oh well gotta come to our town next. I'm hoping to get my set case of the 88D today on the ups truck.
Joe
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Best of luck on your set. If this is the set you love, and you want to collect it graded, I say go for it! I started collecting graded Mattingly cards long be for the registry ever even existed, and I was one of the first to request a player set. I think I have been collecting now for over 5 years and still get excited over ever card I get. There are close to 1000 different Mattingly cards from his playing days and I think every single one is worthy of being slabbed in PSA plastic. It just may take me 20 years to get them all.
i love late 80s graded cards. for 1 thing it is what i first collected besides my dad buying me 1982 topps in the early 80s. i collect 1987 donruss fleer and topps. 1987 topps was the first set i ever bought in 1988. i also like 1988 fleer
as for 88 donruss i think it like most late 80s sets are sleepers. wait till grace and biggio and mcgriff martinez galarraga o'neil kruk cone larkin sierra bonds are considered for induction to the hall of fame.
i am collecting 1986 donruss and 1987 fleer right now. im willing to pay book price for psa 9s. i only collect 9s.
remember these 80 stars: Mike Greenwell Matt Nokes Kevin Seitzer Wally Joyner Chris Sabo Walt Weiss
Yeah Brent I would sell the Clemens too for a $100 This one still went for a little more money than I was willing to spend. Got beat by a $1Ebay Clemens
Also wanted to let you know I sent in my first submission. I sent my wax pack best examples just to see the boundaries of the grades. I know my rack and factory set cards will do allot better. I've only cracked 3 of the 15 sets in my case and I've pulled about 30 beauties. Seems in the factory sets the card is either a piece of crap from being wrapped to tight or it’s a perfect card. I'll let you know how things keep going everyone.
Thanks, Joe
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I opened a wax case of 88's and got 3 10's out of the bunch. I will admit I tossed the non stars in the trash as I opened it but I did have fun. This set is monumental to build in more than 9 weighted average. Good luck and I will keep folloowing your quest.
Brent
Collecting: Bo Jackson Basic(#1) and Master(#1) Bob Feller Basic(#4) Sam McDowell Basic(#1) 2004 Cracker Jack Master
Ok All. I did a little exercise. Out of the last rack case I busted I found a couple of #295 Robin Younts in nice shape. My guess on first look was they where 9's. I had already purchased one in PSA 9 from 4 sharp corners off eBay before I got my case. Now the centering on the 2 I opened from the rack pack where a little better than my psa 9. The rest of the cards looked the same. So like I said before I’m used to submitting to BGS since I just joined PSA. I decided to send one in with some of the 86 Donruss BGS Gem MT set I’m working on ( yeah I Know Another modern Donruss LOL ) So I sent the Yount here is the grade that just hit.
BGS Card Number 4108598 1988 Donruss Robin Yount Wednesday, February 15, 2006 Centering 9.5 Corners 9.5 Edges 9.5 Surfaces 8 Final Grade:9.0
So it's seems the final grade from both came out the same but I'm wondering if both cards looked the same with the one I sent in being centered better how did I miss that kind of surface imperfections? I was hoping I could use this card as a guide on all those sub categories. Does Beckett tend to Graded a little harder??
Just looking for some feedback for you vets.
Thanks again,
Joe
PS I'll post a picture of both cards when i get the one back.
88 Donruss - 1st All Time Finest Set Don Sutton Basic Set - 3rd All Time
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It's possible your Robin Yount might have come from a uncut sheet. Usually when you have cards with 9.5 corners, edges, etc..and the surface grade is 8, it was cut from a sheet.
Like Yawie said, your best bet would be to put together the whole set raw first. Once you've done that send the whole ball of wax to PSA to get graded all at one time. If you call Joe Orlando before you submit and tell him what you want to send he will give you a break on the per card price. You may get the whole deal done for $2K in grading fees if you bargain hard enough.
But don't open cases and send them in to get graded incrementally. For one thing you'll spend more on grading. And, like Yawie said, you may get bored. You may not think you'll get bored now, but take a wait and see attitude on that. This is a huge set, and you may have to break 7 or 8 cases of wax just to find the last 30 cards or so. The first 90 percent is ten times easier (and more fun) then the last 10 percent.
To start I would do it just like Downgoesfrazier; buy a lot of unopened, pick cards that suit YOUR standards, and submit if and when you actually put the whole thing together. You could save a lot of money and headaches just by doing it this way.
Also, don't waste your 12 free vouchers on 88 Donruss. Use them to get some cards graded that would ordinarily cost you 10 or 15 bucks to get slabbed.
I can, just like I want to do the set i grew up with (65 topps) the kids from the mid to late 80's are now in their early 30's and some have disposable income and want to redo the set ot the're youth.
<< <i>I can, just like I want to do the set i grew up with (65 topps) the kids from the mid to late 80's are now in their early 30's and some have disposable income and want to redo the set ot the're youth.
I see no problam with any of this.
Steve >>
yep, does make me chuckle to hear anyone call this stuff "garbage". And why? Because there are gajillions of them and they aren't worth the cardboard they are printed on. So what! They are cool sets with crazy designs! And cheap! Unless you grade them but hey, at least JMS318 knows what he is in for
Dan> I agree. . .but I also feel it's unfortunate that regardless of whether it's 1958, 1978, or 1988, VERY few people appreciate a high-quality raw set. I think too many people adopt the attitude that if it isn't graded it must be garbage. I just think that's sad. I think part of it comes out of the fact that you can get so many PSA-graded cards for less than the cost of grading. People see 1988D PSA9s (for example), go for $3.99 and they run the standard equation - Sale price of PSA-graded card - grading fees = cost of raw card. So the PSA9 for $3.99 works out to $3.99 (sale price) - $5 (grading) = -$1.01 (raw card).
Very Good Advice Boopotts. Will be a few more months before I'll have the whole set to suit me and gives me time to save the money.
I do have a question. How does one get a hold of Joe when it comes time to send them in and is he open to us younger collectors who collect the mass modern sets?????
Oh and this set has been wieghted and i feel the weights are way off example a David Wells RC is a 1 and then a Kevin Seitzer is a 2. Must have been weighted in 1988 So i know once i get this set complet that will have to be addressed.
<< can, just like I want to do the set i grew up with (65 topps) the kids from the mid to late 80's are now in their early 30's and some have disposable income and want to redo the set ot the're youth. I see no problam with any of this. >>
Steve you hit it right on man.
Joe
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VERY few people appreciate a high-quality raw set. I think too many people adopt the attitude that if it isn't graded it must be garbage
Mike
With all due respect i think you may be missing the point. Many collectors do in fact appreciate raw sets. I have 10 sets raw to everyone I have graded (2) And I am sure many do not feel that if it is not graded it must be garbage. IMO the person that wants to build this set in graded form is looking to do a few things.
1 ........participate in the registry 2........have a set that will be encapsulated and thus protected forever 3.......have a 3rd party grade the cards 4......enjoy the hobby
Steve> I didn't mean to imply that noone appreciates raw sets. I know very well that many many collectors do. My point was just that in my experience, it often happens that when people start registry sets they put the blinders on and adopt an attitude that diminishes their appreciation of high-quality raw material. My experience is also that many of these same people eventually come around to appreciate and respect high-quality raw cards. Unfortunately, there's a good number who never come around and I feel are limiting their collections (and enjoyment) as a result.
my 1978 Topps set is the ONLY set I collect graded. Everything else is raw. I will upgrade that 78 set until the day I croak as it is BY FAR my favorite issue of any time period. I talk sometimes about starting another graded set but I have doubts more than not
Dan> I've gotten to the poin t where the only graded stuff I'm keeping for myself are certain team sets. I may do some raw sets as time, money and desire allow, but I seriously doubt I'd ever do another regular-issue set in graded form again.
my next door neighbor collects cards, and asked my opinion on a few as he knows I use PSA. He refuses to have his cards graded and I can see why - he brought over a few 48 Bowmans, 56 Topps, various 60's and 70's issues, etc. Holding a raw 48 Bowman Rizzuto (prob PSA 5) or a 75 Aaron (prob PSA 8) was very cool ...
If I ever start a new set, two things will happen: 1) I will finish what I started in the 67 Topps 2) it will be raw
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Ok here is the two younts I have one from bgs and the other in my PSA set. Looks like both companies grade about the same. Just a part of a little exercise I was conducting. Ok here is the eye candy and when I get my PSA 10's Bonds and Trammell DK back I’ll scan them.
Thanks, Joe
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Oh Jose Flores Jr. If you read this board please post. Maybe we can help one another.
Joe
Don Sutton Basic Set - 3rd All Time
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Oh well one more to completion.
Ebay Item
joe
Don Sutton Basic Set - 3rd All Time
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Looking for Sutton's PSA 7 or Higher
Stingray
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<< <i>Back in 1988, people didn't hoard cards and protect them like they do now. >>
Uh........dahurt, how would you like to get on the ground floor of purchasing 28 1989 fleer factory sets and 3 rack cases of 1988 fleer. I hoarded - I mean collected - these in 1988/89.
Who knows, maybe team collecting will be the next big thing in the graded market. That will open the doors to almost every card ever made. A 1988 Donruss Terry Steinbach PSA 10 may seem like a worthless card now, but in 2009 when graded team sets are the "big" thing, many Oakland A's collectors may need that card for their set. If fact, that card might interest me since I was a HUGE A's fan back in the day.
I'm not sure I agree. Even if you don't think that $4,000 is a big waste of money - you can spend 5% of that, or a little over $200, and get yourself four set cases to hedge your bets. That is 60 pristine unopened sets - and if the grading of this set ever comes around - you can spend the money on grading fees later. At $4,000 - too much of the money is going to the plastic slabs, I believe, compared to what you can buy bulk, unopened set product for. Too much of a disconnect. If you truly think it is an investment - buy a couple set cases and sit on them.
Tabe
<< <i>Steve:
I'm not sure I agree. Even if you don't think that $4,000 is a big waste of money - you can spend 5% of that, or a little over $200, and get yourself four set cases to hedge your bets. That is 60 pristine unopened sets - and if the grading of this set ever comes around - you can spend the money on grading fees later. At $4,000 - too much of the money is going to the plastic slabs, I believe, compared to what you can buy bulk, unopened set product for. Too much of a disconnect. If you truly think it is an investment - buy a couple set cases and sit on them. >>
Yeah, I guess you have a point. You could turn $4000 over and over again in the next 5 years and turn it into a lot more than $4000. But that would take the fun out of his challenge. I guess what I'm saying is that if he's gonna do it anyways, there's a chance of a bright side.
Thanks,
Joe
ps if you see some white spots it's my scanner
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Don Sutton Basic Set - 3rd All Time
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Looking for Sutton's PSA 7 or Higher
Tabe
Is the sets easier to get high grades vs. the wax and rack boxs??
Joe
Don Sutton Basic Set - 3rd All Time
Looking for 88 Donruss PSA 9 or Higher
Looking for Sutton's PSA 7 or Higher
<< <i>Thanks Tabe. Well i broke down and bought a case of the factory sets from BBCE.
Is the sets easier to get high grades vs. the wax and rack boxs??
Joe >>
Joe - my experience with a few other products [e.g. not 1988 Donruss...] is that factory sets, especially when in the case form, are one of the best places to get high-grade cards. They often might be worse on some of the beginning and end cards - but overall it is a much better deal on the bargain. My recollection with the Donruss factory sets is that the cards are wrapped in six packs of 110 cards each - so there might be some potential damage to the end cards of each of those runs. But if those packs are not wrapped too tight and they have not been handled, you should be golden.
I have thought about doing a modern set a few times but the overall price puts me off from doing it. I would rather spend the money to have my Favre's graded instead. Thats just a personal choice. What I am more likely to do is have the key cards graded from the set as an example as to the general condition of my collection. I have nearly every baseball, football and basketball set that was made during the 80's. Major sets that is and many minor/odd ball ones to boot.
If you want to start this epic journey...I would agree with starting with the subsets...ie Diamond Kings (should have some HOFers), Rated Rookies and the MVP's. This would be a way to test your eyes vs. the experts. Take good notes, use a strong light, loupe if possible. Look for surface scratches. If I remember correct they were there on some of the 88 Donruss. Submit and see how they come back. That was what I had done with my first submissions. Most came back the way I wanted. If you question why based on your notes crack it an re-examine it. Right now at $5 a card its a great investment to learn how you grade and how they do. Even still I have gotten some back that I didnt belive the grade. I have recently cracked them and will be resubmitting them. I will post the results when I get them.
Just do what you want in terms of collecting this set.
Does anyone remember the teams books that Donruss sold in 1988. I have one of each that were issued. Cub's, A's, Yankee's and Met's I think. Cubs and A's for sure. I will check when I get home tonight. They had room for auto's in the front leaf. My A's have Big Mac's and Jose's sigs. Plus they also had cards that werent issued in the packs.
Jay
Collecting:
Brett Favre Master Set
Favre Ticket Stubs
Favre TD Reciever Autos
Football HOF Player/etc. Auto Set
Football HOF Rc's
Thanks,
Joe
Don Sutton Basic Set - 3rd All Time
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Looking for Sutton's PSA 7 or Higher
Joe
Don Sutton Basic Set - 3rd All Time
Looking for 88 Donruss PSA 9 or Higher
Looking for Sutton's PSA 7 or Higher
Collecting:
Brett Favre Master Set
Favre Ticket Stubs
Favre TD Reciever Autos
Football HOF Player/etc. Auto Set
Football HOF Rc's
Joe
Don Sutton Basic Set - 3rd All Time
Looking for 88 Donruss PSA 9 or Higher
Looking for Sutton's PSA 7 or Higher
Joe
Don Sutton Basic Set - 3rd All Time
Looking for 88 Donruss PSA 9 or Higher
Looking for Sutton's PSA 7 or Higher
Brent
Bo Jackson Basic(#1) and Master(#1)
Bob Feller Basic(#4)
Sam McDowell Basic(#1)
2004 Cracker Jack Master
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Thanks
Joe
Don Sutton Basic Set - 3rd All Time
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Ken
I'm hoping to get my set case of the 88D today on the ups truck.
Joe
Don Sutton Basic Set - 3rd All Time
Looking for 88 Donruss PSA 9 or Higher
Looking for Sutton's PSA 7 or Higher
Best of luck on your set. If this is the set you love, and you want to collect it graded, I say go for it! I started collecting graded Mattingly cards long be for the registry ever even existed, and I was one of the first to request a player set. I think I have been collecting now for over 5 years and still get excited over ever card I get. There are close to 1000 different Mattingly cards from his playing days and I think every single one is worthy of being slabbed in PSA plastic. It just may take me 20 years to get them all.
for 1 thing it is what i first collected besides my dad buying me 1982 topps in the early 80s.
i collect 1987 donruss fleer and topps. 1987 topps was the first set i ever bought in 1988.
i also like 1988 fleer
as for 88 donruss i think it like most late 80s sets are sleepers.
wait till grace and biggio and mcgriff martinez galarraga o'neil kruk cone larkin sierra bonds are considered for induction to the hall of fame.
i am collecting 1986 donruss and 1987 fleer right now.
im willing to pay book price for psa 9s.
i only collect 9s.
remember these 80 stars:
Mike Greenwell
Matt Nokes
Kevin Seitzer
Wally Joyner
Chris Sabo
Walt Weiss
i have two psa 9s.
does anyone know why this card is so underratted?
All of the cards I have listed are in my player sets that I am working on. I would be reluctant to sell them. Good luck on your set.
Brent
PS- Come to think of it, if I could the bucks for my Clemens that the other guy did...
Bo Jackson Basic(#1) and Master(#1)
Bob Feller Basic(#4)
Sam McDowell Basic(#1)
2004 Cracker Jack Master
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Also wanted to let you know I sent in my first submission. I sent my wax pack best examples just to see the boundaries of the grades.
I know my rack and factory set cards will do allot better. I've only cracked 3 of the 15 sets in my case and I've pulled about 30 beauties.
Seems in the factory sets the card is either a piece of crap from being wrapped to tight or it’s a perfect card.
I'll let you know how things keep going everyone.
Thanks,
Joe
Don Sutton Basic Set - 3rd All Time
Looking for 88 Donruss PSA 9 or Higher
Looking for Sutton's PSA 7 or Higher
Brent
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Bob Feller Basic(#4)
Sam McDowell Basic(#1)
2004 Cracker Jack Master
My Ebay Store
BGS Card Number 4108598 1988 Donruss Robin Yount
Wednesday, February 15, 2006
Centering 9.5 Corners 9.5 Edges 9.5 Surfaces 8 Final Grade:9.0
So it's seems the final grade from both came out the same but I'm wondering if both cards looked the same with the one I sent in being centered better how did I miss that kind of surface imperfections? I was hoping I could use this card as a guide on all those sub categories.
Does Beckett tend to Graded a little harder??
Just looking for some feedback for you vets.
Thanks again,
Joe
PS I'll post a picture of both cards when i get the one back.
Don Sutton Basic Set - 3rd All Time
Looking for 88 Donruss PSA 9 or Higher
Looking for Sutton's PSA 7 or Higher
It's possible your Robin Yount might have come from a uncut sheet. Usually when you have cards with 9.5 corners, edges, etc..and the surface grade is 8, it was cut from a sheet.
GO MARLINS! Home of the best fans in baseball!!
But don't open cases and send them in to get graded incrementally. For one thing you'll spend more on grading. And, like Yawie said, you may get bored. You may not think you'll get bored now, but take a wait and see attitude on that. This is a huge set, and you may have to break 7 or 8 cases of wax just to find the last 30 cards or so. The first 90 percent is ten times easier (and more fun) then the last 10 percent.
To start I would do it just like Downgoesfrazier; buy a lot of unopened, pick cards that suit YOUR standards, and submit if and when you actually put the whole thing together. You could save a lot of money and headaches just by doing it this way.
Also, don't waste your 12 free vouchers on 88 Donruss. Use them to get some cards graded that would ordinarily cost you 10 or 15 bucks to get slabbed.
Brent
Bo Jackson Basic(#1) and Master(#1)
Bob Feller Basic(#4)
Sam McDowell Basic(#1)
2004 Cracker Jack Master
My Ebay Store
I submitted 4 more 88's that I thought might be 10's and 9 at least. I will let you know how they come out and give you first shot.
Brent
Bo Jackson Basic(#1) and Master(#1)
Bob Feller Basic(#4)
Sam McDowell Basic(#1)
2004 Cracker Jack Master
My Ebay Store
I see no problam with any of this.
Steve
<< <i>I can, just like I want to do the set i grew up with (65 topps) the kids from the mid to late 80's are now in their early 30's and some have disposable income and want to redo the set ot the're youth.
I see no problam with any of this.
Steve >>
yep, does make me chuckle to hear anyone call this stuff "garbage". And why? Because there are gajillions of them and they aren't worth the cardboard they are printed on. So what! They are cool sets with crazy designs! And cheap! Unless you grade them but hey, at least JMS318 knows what he is in for
ISO 1978 Topps Baseball in NM-MT High Grade Raw 3, 100, 103, 302, 347, 376, 416, 466, 481, 487, 509, 534, 540, 554, 579, 580, 622, 642, 673, 724__________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ISO 1978 O-Pee-Chee in NM-MT High Grade Raw12, 21, 29, 38, 49, 65, 69, 73, 74, 81, 95, 100, 104, 110, 115, 122, 132, 133, 135, 140, 142, 151, 153, 155, 160, 161, 167, 168, 172, 179, 181, 196, 200, 204, 210, 224, 231, 240
Mike
I do have a question. How does one get a hold of Joe when it comes time to send them in and is he open to us younger collectors who collect the mass modern sets?????
Oh and this set has been wieghted and i feel the weights are way off example a David Wells RC is a 1 and then a Kevin Seitzer is a 2. Must have been weighted in 1988
<< can, just like I want to do the set i grew up with (65 topps) the kids from the mid to late 80's are now in their early 30's and some have disposable income and want to redo the set ot the're youth.
I see no problam with any of this. >>
Steve you hit it right on man.
Joe
Don Sutton Basic Set - 3rd All Time
Looking for 88 Donruss PSA 9 or Higher
Looking for Sutton's PSA 7 or Higher
Mike
With all due respect i think you may be missing the point. Many collectors do in fact appreciate raw sets. I have 10 sets raw to everyone I have graded (2) And I am sure many do not feel that if it is not graded it must be garbage. IMO the person that wants to build this set in graded form is looking to do a few things.
1 ........participate in the registry
2........have a set that will be encapsulated and thus protected forever
3.......have a 3rd party grade the cards
4......enjoy the hobby
Steve
Mike
my 1978 Topps set is the ONLY set I collect graded. Everything else is raw. I will upgrade that 78 set until the day I croak as it is BY FAR my favorite issue of any time period. I talk sometimes about starting another graded set but I have doubts more than not
ISO 1978 Topps Baseball in NM-MT High Grade Raw 3, 100, 103, 302, 347, 376, 416, 466, 481, 487, 509, 534, 540, 554, 579, 580, 622, 642, 673, 724__________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ISO 1978 O-Pee-Chee in NM-MT High Grade Raw12, 21, 29, 38, 49, 65, 69, 73, 74, 81, 95, 100, 104, 110, 115, 122, 132, 133, 135, 140, 142, 151, 153, 155, 160, 161, 167, 168, 172, 179, 181, 196, 200, 204, 210, 224, 231, 240
Mike
my next door neighbor collects cards, and asked my opinion on a few as he knows I use PSA. He refuses to have his cards graded and I can see why - he brought over a few 48 Bowmans, 56 Topps, various 60's and 70's issues, etc. Holding a raw 48 Bowman Rizzuto (prob PSA 5) or a 75 Aaron (prob PSA 8) was very cool ...
If I ever start a new set, two things will happen:
1) I will finish what I started in the 67 Topps
2) it will be raw
1 40418358 1988 TOPPS 590 GEORGE BELL N/A 9
2 40418359 1988 TOPPS 661 NOLAN RYAN N/A 10
3 40418360 1988 DONRUSS 4 ALAN TRAMMELL DIAMOND KINGS 10
4 40418361 1988 DONRUSS 7 PAUL MOLITOR DIAMOND KINGS 9
5 40418362 1988 DONRUSS 216 DWIGHT EVANS N/A 9
6 40418363 1988 DONRUSS 292 LEE SMITH N/A 9
7 40418364 1988 DONRUSS 326 BARRY BONDS N/A 10
8 40418365 1988 DONRUSS 330 MIKE SCHMIDT N/A 8
9 40418366 1988 DONRUSS 349 DENNIS ECKERSLEY N/A 9
10 40418367 1988 DONRUSS 640 DAVID WELLS N/A 9
11 40418368 1988 DONRUSS MVP BC-9 JOE CARTER N/A 10
12 40418369 1988 DONRUSS 298 DAVE WINFIELD N/A 9
Date Received: 02/20/2006
Date of Grades Posted: 02/23/2006
Date Shipped: 02/24/2006
Happy for the most part. opps on the Schmidit. Do you think my grading eye is ok?????
Thanks,
Joe
Don Sutton Basic Set - 3rd All Time
Looking for 88 Donruss PSA 9 or Higher
Looking for Sutton's PSA 7 or Higher
Thanks,
Joe
Don Sutton Basic Set - 3rd All Time
Looking for 88 Donruss PSA 9 or Higher
Looking for Sutton's PSA 7 or Higher